Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-03-05 Thread slartibartfast


kidstypike wrote: 
> Was it worth all the effort? :rolleyes:I finally found a convenient time to 
> try this. For some reason I still
don't achieve perfect sync. A player can still be a second or two out.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-10 Thread Redrum


Man in a van wrote: 
> Leave it out!!!
> 
> ronnie :p:)

wow, this might be the first time I have ever seen a video posted. Think
of the possibilities! Members with problems filming and posting their
futility, rather than describing it in print and pictures:p

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-09 Thread agbagb

Redrum wrote: 
> because you like hearing "will you please turn that down!"? :eek:

I'm sure I've told this story, here, before.

A good few years ago, we moved into our wickedly costly, elaborate,
restored second home in a little French southern village.  What with one
thing and another I could not get the Squeeze system to work (nor the
hot water, nor the 2nd floor heating).  After a very frustrating
morning I decided to chill out, and head 400m to our local café for a
light lunch, a chill, and - yes - a glass or two of something wet. 
After an hour and half or so, I walked back home, to renew
techno-battle.  Just in the little square before our house, I started to
hear extraordinarily thumping music, rattling the very cobbles.  Our
(very good) hunting, shooting neighbor game me some very old-fashioned
looks as I passed his house.  

Yes, once I'd left home, the whole LMS universe had kicked in, full
volume, multiple tracks - Fiona Apple downstairs, Beethoven upstairs,
Zepp in the garage, John Le Carré in the bedroom.  What fun 



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-09 Thread Man in a van


slartibartfast wrote: 
>  Too many soaps etc SWMBO has to watch. I sometimes wonder why I bother
> with a sound system [emoji1787]
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Leave it out!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkmz16-8n_o

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-09 Thread Redrum


slartibartfast wrote: 
> I sometimes wonder why I bother with a sound system [emoji1787]
> 

because you like hearing "will you please turn that down!"? :eek:



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-09 Thread slartibartfast


kidstypike wrote: 
> Was it worth all the effort? :rolleyes:Last time I tried with the remote or 
> this time with the script? [emoji2]
I still haven't had a chance to try it. Too many soaps etc SWMBO has to
watch. I sometimes wonder why I bother with a sound system [emoji1787]

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-09 Thread kidstypike


slartibartfast wrote: 
> It did work but not always reliably, sometimes one of the players
> wouldn't respond. One of the players I was using was a squeezeplayer
> playing to a Bluetooth speaker so I was trying to start that at the same
> time as pressing play on the remote. 
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Was it worth all the effort? :rolleyes:



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-09 Thread slartibartfast


agbagb wrote: 
> Hmmm  - why wouldn't that work?  Cue up, say 4 Radios - more or less
> alongside each other - ready to start 4 separate streams, one for each
> CD.  Point remote.  Hit Play.  Move Radios round the room. After all,
> we've just had another thread about trying to *prevent* one remote
> starting multiple players...
> 
> I suppose someone should suggest a variant of how it was intended to be
> done in the first place.  Four separate CD players; four folks stationed
> at the four Play buttons; Ah-one, Ah-two, Ah-one-two-three-four..  
> 
> Or, four forum members, each with one CD - on a Zoom call!  You could
> surely drum up an audience too.It did work but not always reliably, 
> sometimes one of the players
wouldn't respond. One of the players I was using was a squeezeplayer
playing to a Bluetooth speaker so I was trying to start that at the same
time as pressing play on the remote. 

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-09 Thread agbagb


slartibartfast wrote: 
>  I even tried using an IR remote in the hope of triggering all players
> at the same time [emoji1787]. 


Hmmm  - why wouldn't that work?  Cue up, say 4 Radios - more or less
alongside each other - ready to start 4 separate streams, one for each
CD.  Point remote.  Hit Play.  Move Radios round the room. After all,
we've just had another thread about trying to *prevent* one remote
starting multiple players...

I suppose someone should suggest a variant of how it was intended to be
done in the first place.  Four separate CD players; four folks stationed
at the four Play buttons; Ah-one, Ah-two, Ah-one-two-three-four..  

Or, four forum members, each with one CD - on a Zoom call!  You could
surely drum up an audience too.



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a) Livebox 4
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3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16862)
2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16867)
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-09 Thread slartibartfast


RobbH wrote: 
> I'm glad you got some knowledgeable advice about that!There aren't many 
> forums where you can ask for advice and have a working
solution within the same day [emoji2]

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-09 Thread RobbH


slartibartfast wrote: 
> The newer way is probably JSON
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=1046901
> I thought JSON was the Blue Peter cat [emoji1787]
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

I'm glad you got some knowledgeable advice about that!



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-09 Thread slartibartfast


Redrum wrote: 
> @slarti..
> 
> I just bought a used copy of Zaireeka on ebay (cheap - $6USD), so, while
> I wait for my copy to travel, figure this out and I'll give it a try!
> :)
> 
> Jim

i have attached sample files for the script file and the actions.json
file. These work on a Pi running Raspberry OS so some changes might be
necessary for pCP. The actions.json file should be placed in 
var/lib/squeezeboxserver/prefs/material-skin


+---+
|Filename: Simultaneous play.zip|
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-09 Thread Redrum


@slarti..

I just bought a used copy of Zaireeka on ebay (cheap - $6USD), so, while
I wait for my copy to travel, figure this out and I'll give it a try!
:)

Jim



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-09 Thread slartibartfast


Paul Webster wrote: 
> and now?Winter Olympics [emoji2]

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-09 Thread Paul Webster


and now?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread slartibartfast


Paul Webster wrote: 
> So how does it sound when you start all 4 at nearly the same time?Haven't got 
> that far yet, the TV is on [emoji2]

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread Paul Webster


So how does it sound when you start all 4 at nearly the same time?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread slartibartfast


Greg Erskine wrote: 
> I can't see a reply?
> 
> If it is pCP, this works.
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > $ ssh t...@192.168.1.xxx 'pcp play'

> > It is Raspberry OS.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread Greg Erskine


Paul Webster wrote: 
> Is it a pCP system?
> 
> If yes - does it really have a  /home/pi ?

I can't see a reply?

If it is pCP, this works.


Code:

$ ssh t...@192.168.1.xxx 'pcp play'




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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread slartibartfast


RobbH wrote: 
> I wouldn't think it could. But since it IS happening, it must be my
> thinking that's wrong. What happens if you use a MAC address that
> doesn't exist on your system? Does LMS always fall back to the same
> player if it's given an address it can't use?
> 
> Edit: When you say the MUSE is turned off, does that mean powered down
> or switched off in LMS? Or both?If I enter a MAC address that doesn't exist 
> then a different player
plays. There must be some logic that decides which player plays if the
requested player is not available. 

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread slartibartfast


RobbH wrote: 
> I wouldn't think it could. But since it IS happening, it must be my
> thinking that's wrong. What happens if you use a MAC address that
> doesn't exist on your system? Does LMS always fall back to the same
> player if it's given an address it can't use?
> 
> Edit: When you say the MUSE is turned off, does that mean powered down
> or switched off in LMS? Or both?

The MUSE was powered off completely so didn't appear in the lost of
players. That would be equivalent to choosing a MAC address that doesn't
exist.
I confirmed that when the MUSE speaker is powered on then the other
player does not play.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread RobbH


slartibartfast wrote: 
> I can start all four of my players using the curl command. If my MUSE
> player is turned off then another player with a different MAC address
> starts playing when I enter the curl command with the MAC address of the
> MUSE player. How on earth can that happen?
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

I wouldn't think it could. But since it IS happening, it must be my
thinking that's wrong. What happens if you use a MAC address that
doesn't exist on your system? Does LMS always fall back to the same
player if it's given an address it can't use?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread slartibartfast


RobbH wrote: 
> One more thought. I'm sure that, in the past, Michael has pointed us
> toward better ways to do this than using HTML commands. Maybe he will
> refresh our memories this time. But I just had good luck using  this
> command:
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > curl "http://:9000/Classic/status_header.html?p0=play&player=00%3A00%3A00%3A00%3A00%3A00" 
&> /dev/null

> > 
> 
> It might be worth trying to put four such commands in a single script,
> running each one in the background to minimize the delay between them.
> EDIT: That's much the same as Paul Webster already suggested.I can start all 
> four of my players using the curl command. If my MUSE
player is turned off then another player with a different MAC address
starts playing when I enter the curl command with the MAC address of the
MUSE player. How on earth can that happen?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread philippe_44

Paul Webster wrote: 
> It is 4 different CDs to be played at the same time.
> If you queue CD1 to player1 and CD2 to player2 etc ... then you cannot
> use sync because they are not playing the same thing.

Sorry I’m dumb (it was also too early in the morning for me :))



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread slartibartfast


cpd73 wrote: 
> D'oh! Yeah, I meant "which sh" :(/usr/bin/sh /home/pi/zaireeka.sh
works. 

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread slartibartfast


cpd73 wrote: 
> D'oh! Yeah, I meant "which sh" :(which sh results in
/usr/bin/sh
which I wasn't expecting.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread cpd73


slartibartfast wrote: 
> If I type 
> where sh
> in a terminal connected to the Pi I get
> -bash: where: command not found
> I can see sh at /bin/sh in WinSCP.
> My script starts
> #!/bin/bash
> Is that wrong?
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Ah, I have no pCP at the moment. If you have "/bin/bash" then you can
use that, else use "/bin/sh" - whichever you use needs to exist on your
system.

But you need to "chmod +x /home/pi/zaireeka.sh" to make the shell script
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread Paul Webster


try which rather than where



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread slartibartfast


cpd73 wrote: 
> so "sh" is the name of the shell command. If you type (on the machine
> where the script is to run):
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > where sh
  > 

> > 
> 
> it will give you the path to the current "sh" command - probably
> "/bin/sh" Edit you script so that the first line is:
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > #!/bin/sh
  > 

> > 
> 
> (change /bin/sh to match the where output). Now your actions.json just
> needs:
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > {
  > "system":[
  > {
  > "title":"Zaireeka",
  > "command":"/home/pi/zaireeka.sh",
  > "prompt":"Do this command?"
  > }
  > ]
  > }
  > 
  > 

> > 

If I type 
where sh
in a terminal connected to the Pi I get
-bash: where: command not found
I can see sh at /bin/sh in WinSCP.
My script starts
#!/bin/bash
Is that wrong?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread cpd73


slartibartfast wrote: 
> I don't have "/home/pi/sh" as a command. I am clutching at straws. All I
> know is that using Putty the command
> sh zaireeka.sh 
> works.
> zaireeka.sh is in the folder /home/pi and the script is executable.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

so "sh" is the name of the shell command. If you type (on the machine
where the script is to run):


Code:


  where sh
  



it will give you the path to the current "sh" command - probably
"/bin/sh" Edit you script so that the first line is:


Code:


  #!/bin/sh
  



(change /bin/sh to match the where output). Now your actions.json just
needs:


Code:


  {
  "system":[
  {
  "title":"Zaireeka",
  "command":"/home/pi/zaireeka.sh",
  "prompt":"Do this command?"
  }
  ]
  }
  
  




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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread Paul Webster


slartibartfast wrote: 
> I don't have "/home/pi/sh" as a command. I am clutching at straws. All I
> know is that using Putty the command
> sh zaireeka.sh 
> works.
> zaireeka.sh is in the folder /home/pi and the script is executable.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

So 
sh /home/pi/zaireeka.sh
should work



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread slartibartfast


cpd73 wrote: 
> Do you have "/home/pi/sh" as a command? Eve if you did You would need
> "/home/pi/sh /home/pi/zaireeka.sh" The command that the script runs
> (i.e. the first string) either needs to be in PATH or have an absolute
> path (hence "/home/pi/sh") If you are using "/home/pi/sh" then the
> second part is a parameter to "/home/pi/sh" so also needs to be an
> absolute path.
> 
> But, if you add the "#/bin/bash" (or "#/bin/sh") at the start, you can
> just make the script executable - "chmod +x name-of-script"

I don't have "/home/pi/sh" as a command. I am clutching at straws. All I
know is that using Putty the command
sh zaireeka.sh 
works.
zaireeka.sh is in the folder /home/pi and the script is executable.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread cpd73


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Do you think I should just use
> /home/pi/zaireeka.sh
> instead of 
> /home/pi/sh zaireeka.sh
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Do you have "/home/pi/sh" as a command? Eve if you did You would need
"/home/pi/sh /home/pi/zaireeka.sh" The command that the script runs
(i.e. the first string) either needs to be in PATH or have an absolute
path (hence "/home/pi/sh") If you are using "/home/pi/sh" then the
second part is a parameter to "/home/pi/sh" so also needs to be an
absolute path.

But, if you add the "#/bin/bash" (or "#/bin/sh") at the start, you can
just make the script executable - "chmod +x name-of-script"



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread slartibartfast


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Do you think I should just use
> /home/pi/zaireeka.sh
> instead of 
> /home/pi/sh zaireeka.sh
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using TapatalkThat didn't work either.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread slartibartfast


cpd73 wrote: 
> Make sure your shell script is executable: "chmod +x script.sh" and has
> "#!/bin/bash" as the first line. e.g.
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > #!/bin/bash
  > echo "Hello"
  > 

> > 
> 
> Then in actions.json you need the full path to the script:
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > {
  > "system":[
  > {
  > "title":"Zaireeka",
  > "command":"/tmp/test.sh",
  > "prompt":"Do this command?"
  > }
  > ]
  > }
  > 

> > 
> 
> The above works on my system - "Hello" is printed to there terminal
> window where LMS is running.Do you think I should just use
/home/pi/zaireeka.sh
instead of 
/home/pi/sh zaireeka.sh

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread cpd73


Make sure your shell script is executable: "chmod +x script.sh" and has
"#!/bin/bash" as the first line. e.g.


Code:


  #!/bin/bash
  echo "Hello"
  



Then in actions.json you need the full path to the script:


Code:


  {
  "system":[
  {
  "title":"Zaireeka",
  "command":"/tmp/test.sh",
  "prompt":"Do this command?"
  }
  ]
  }
  



The above works on my system - "Hello" is printed to there terminal
window where LMS is running.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread Paul Webster


Is it a pCP system?

If yes - does it really have a  /home/pi ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread slartibartfast


Paul Webster wrote: 
> Try it more like I wrote it.Sorry I edited the last post after realising and 
> tried
/bin/sh /home/pi/zaireeka.sh &

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread slartibartfast


Paul Webster wrote: 
> Try it with full paths to sh and the script
> e.g.
> /bin/sh /home/tc/script.sh

I changed it to
/home/pi/sh zaireeka.sh &
but still no luck.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread Paul Webster


Try it more like I wrote it.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread slartibartfast

philippe_44 wrote: 
> I’m a bit confused… you want to start sync’s but but not keep sync?

Yup, Zaireeka is on 4 different CDs :)



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread RobbH


Once you get the Material action working, I hope you'll report back on
the sound you're getting, playing all four versions more-or-less
simultaneously. Do you recommend the experience?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread Paul Webster


Try it with full paths to sh and the script
e.g.
/bin/sh /home/tc/script.sh



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread slartibartfast


cpd73 wrote: 
> You can add custom actions to material - and these can invoke shell
> scripts. See "Custom menu entries and actions" at
> https://github.com/CDrummond/lms-material/wiki/07-Customisation

I added the attached actions.json to prefs/material-skin and the command
appears when I click the three dots. When I click the command I see the
prompt but nothing happens when I agree run the comand. When I run the
command 
sh zaireeka.sh
in a terminal four players start playing.
I must be doing something wrong.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread Redrum


I thought this would be fun to play with, then I realized I don't own it
:( I have an already mixed version. Didn't realize I had that until I
looked!

One thought to simplify - mix each disk 1-4 down to mono, then mix 1/2
and 3/4 into stereo. Use 4 radios (A-D), setup to use a pair of radios
to play stereo. So 1/2->Radio A (L) Radio B(R), 3/4->Radio C (L), Radio
D (R)

Then you only have to start the two pairs of radios together.

But, while I do have 4 radios, I don't have the media

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread Paul Webster

philippe_44 wrote: 
> But then why not using the option from LMS to start sync’d but not
> maintain it? It’s on the players settings

It is 4 different CDs to be played at the same time.
If you queue CD1 to player1 and CD2 to player2 etc ... then you cannot
use sync because they are not playing the same thing.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread philippe_44

Paul Webster wrote: 
> Art ... "Zaireeka by the The Flaming Lips the way it was intended to be
> played. It consists of four CDs which are meant to played on four
> players simultaneously"
> 
> Each of the CDs is different but supposed to be played together on
> different systems.

But then why not using the option from LMS to start sync’d but not
maintain it? It’s on the players settings



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread Paul Webster

philippe_44 wrote: 
> I’m a bit confused… you want to start sync’s but but not keep sync?

Art ... "Zaireeka by the The Flaming Lips the way it was intended to be
played. It consists of four CDs which are meant to played on four
players simultaneously"

Each of the CDs is different but supposed to be played together on
different systems.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread philippe_44

I’m a bit confused… you want to start sync’s but but not keep sync?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread slartibartfast


cpd73 wrote: 
> You can add custom actions to material - and these can invoke shell
> scripts. See "Custom menu entries and actions" at
> https://github.com/CDrummond/lms-material/wiki/07-CustomisationExcellent I 
> forgot about that [emoji106]

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread cpd73


slartibartfast wrote: 
> This is a long shot. Is there a way to run the script from LMS? Material
> skin can shutdown and restart the server so it should be possible.

You can add custom actions to material - and these can invoke shell
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread slartibartfast


RobbH wrote: 
> One more thought. I'm sure that, in the past, Michael has pointed us
> toward better ways to do this than using HTML commands. Maybe he will
> refresh our memories this time. But I just had good luck using  this
> command:
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > curl "http://:9000/Classic/status_header.html?p0=play&player=00%3A00%3A00%3A00%3A00%3A00" 
&> /dev/null

> > 
> 
> It might be worth trying to put four such commands in a single script,
> running each one in the background to minimize the delay between them.
> EDIT: That's much the same as Paul Webster already suggested.

This is a long shot. Is there a way to run the script from LMS? Material
skin can shutdown and restart the server so it should be possible.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread slartibartfast


RobbH wrote: 
> One more thought. I'm sure that, in the past, Michael has pointed us
> toward better ways to do this than using HTML commands. Maybe he will
> refresh our memories this time. But I just had good luck using  this
> command:
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > curl "http://:9000/Classic/status_header.html?p0=play&player=00%3A00%3A00%3A00%3A00%3A00" 
&> /dev/null

> > 
> 
> It might be worth trying to put four such commands in a single script,
> running each one in the background to minimize the delay between them.
> EDIT: That's much the same as Paul Webster already suggested.

Thanks for this, it works perfectly.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread Paul Webster


slartibartfast wrote: 
> This looks promising. Do I run this command using Putty and SSH?
> Presumably I replace the zeroes with the player MAC address.
> 
Broadly ... yes.

In fact you can run it from anywhere that has curl ... which might be
easiest on the system running LMS.
You could then change the IP address that it is targetted at to be
localhost or 127.0.0.1 which means that you don't need to know the IP
address since it is the same machine.

Also - yes - do replace the 00 with whatever LMS says is the "Player MAC
Address" on the Information screen.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread slartibartfast


RobbH wrote: 
> One more thought. I'm sure that, in the past, Michael has pointed us
> toward better ways to do this than using HTML commands. Maybe he will
> refresh our memories this time. But I just had good luck using  this
> command:
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > curl "http://:9000/Classic/status_header.html?p0=play&player=00%3A00%3A00%3A00%3A00%3A00" 
&> /dev/null

> > 
> 
> It might be worth trying to put four such commands in a single script,
> running each one in the background to minimize the delay between them.
> EDIT: That's much the same as Paul Webster already suggested.

This looks promising. Do I run this command using Putty and SSH?
Presumably I replace the zeroes with the player MAC address.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread slartibartfast


Paul Webster wrote: 
> Might it work if you set an alarm on each - with each one launching a
> different CD.
> I suspect that they would not be close enough to each other ... but
> might be OK if they are LMS controlled devices (e.g.
> SB1/SB2/SB3/Transporter).
> 
> Otherwise a script that does not wait for the response from LMS (fire
> and forget) might get them going within a couple of tenths of a second.

I can't remember if I tried alarms when I first attempted this, it is
certainly the easiest method to try first. Sync doesn't need to be spot
on, in fact slight changes in sync give a different experience. Ideally
all 4 discs would be played on 4 stereo players but I was using a Touch,
two Radios and a Bluetooth speaker linked to Squeezeplayer on my phone.
I now have another option with the ESP MUSE speaker. I seem to remember
the main issue was the Squeezeplayer unpredictable delay so replacing
that with the MUSE might help.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread slartibartfast


Grumpy Bob wrote: 
> For a one-off scenario like this, you could merge all four CDs with
> Audacity or similar to make a single audio file. Then use a single
> player. I did this for Gensho, a collaborative two CD set that by Boris
> with Merzbow is supposed to be played simultaneously.
> 
> Robert

Yes but I think part of the experience is that sounds come from
different places. There is a fan made DVD with several mixes which
probably requires a 5.1 system for the best effect.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-07 Thread Grumpy Bob


For a one-off scenario like this, you could merge all four CDs with
Audacity or similar to make a single audio file. Then use a single
player. I did this for Gensho, a collaborative two CD set that by Boris
with Merzbow is supposed to be played simultaneously.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-07 Thread RobbH


One more thought. I'm sure that, in the past, Michael has pointed us
toward better ways to do this than using HTML commands. Maybe he will
refresh our memories this time. But I just had good luck using  this
command:


Code:

curl "http://:9000/Classic/status_header.html?p0=play&player=00%3A00%3A00%3A00%3A00%3A00" 
&> /dev/null



It might be worth trying to put four such commands in a single script,
running each one in the background to minimize the delay between them.



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occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-07 Thread Paul Webster


Might it work if you set an alarm on each - with each one launching a
different CD.
I suspect that they would not be close enough to each other ... but
might be OK if they are LMS controlled devices (e.g.
SB1/SB2/SB3/Transporter).

Otherwise a script that does not wait for the response from LMS (fire
and forget) might get them going within a couple of tenths of a second.



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author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc),
planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc
australia and cbc/radio-canada
and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-07 Thread RobbH


This is horribly convoluted, but it's the only thing I've thought of so
far:

Take four computers. Any combination of desktops, laptops, Raspberry
Pis, or whatever. Each one needs to have the capability to run a command
at a specified time, like cron on LInux. Each one also needs to have the
capability to run a command that will click a button in a gui. (In
LInux, xdotool serves that purpose.) Make sure time is synchronized on
all four. Open LMS in a browser and select a different player on each
one. Have the appropriate version of the album ready to play in each. Do
all the necessary measurements and calculations to set up a command that
will click on the Play button.

Would that actually work? Maybe. Probably not.

On second thought, aren't there html and/or json commands you could use
to do this?



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[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-07 Thread slartibartfast


This sounds like it should be an easy thing to do but as far as I know
there isn't a way to start multiple non synchronised players at the same
time. There is likely only one possible reason for this (that I can
think of) and that is playing Zaireeka by the The Flaming Lips the way
it was intended to be played. It consists of four CDs which are meant to
played on four players simultaneously. A Squeezebox system would appear
to be ideal for this until you actually try to do it. I even tried using
an IR remote in the hope of triggering all players at the same time
[emoji1787]. For those versed in the art it sounds like an easy thing to
achieve but that is not me.
Any thoughts?

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