Re: [Biofuel] We The People Stimulus Package
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyAeurl=http%3A%2F%2F quite a presentation Kirk Aarghh!! 6 min 35 secs! So what should we do, round up all the immigrants and aliens and put them in death camps or what? Opt for the military solution? Is that what the real Tom Payne would have thought? Anyway, I wouldn't call it a presentation, it's a production, with a script. Do you think the guy in the video wrote the script? If not then who did write it? Whoever, it doesn't come cheap. How often do you see production values like that on YouTube? Wouldn't it be an idea to follow the money, or at least look with some suspicion at what all that money paid for? Here again, something pretending to be what it's not, and it's obvious. We the people my ass. The person pretending to be Tom Payne is Bob Basso, an actor/presenter who's up for commercial hire. http://www.bobbasso.com/ His (?) YouTube offerings created some minor flurry when he first uploaded them six months ago. This should take less than 6 min 35 secs to read: http://moonslurpies.blogspot.com/2009/03/real-revolution-or-tom-paine-is-fake.html THURSDAY, MARCH 26, 2009 Tom Paine is a Psyop Indeed. YouTube is useful, but IMHO it needs some value-added, some assessment, not just a link and three or four words. People are busy, they should have some idea of what they're in for. Why is it interesting/useful/funny/ridiculous/outrageous/whatever? Something like a mini movie review, one pithy paragraph would do. Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event
The stargate project was spook remote viewing. Does spook mean spy or ghost, in this context? Stargate was devoted to **psychic** remote viewing, the purported ability to psychically 'see' events, sites, or information from a great distance. Bit superfluous to say it wasn't exactly successful. Echelon works at least, on the other hand, for instance, as opposed to pixie dust. CIA put effort into it. I know, but I don't think that gives it much cred. The Soviets tried it too, that's why the US tried it. It achieved nothing. Not as woo woo as you might think. Totally woo woo, IMHO, just as I thought. Sure, maybe some people are psychic or clairvoyant or even telepathic, maybe everybody is, or could be, maybe that's how the whole biosphere really works, who knows, but trying to use clairvoyance as a reliable technique for intelligence gathering or to support conspiracy theories is ludicrous. Wikipedia will do, very easy, no need to go any further: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project Anyway, is this to suggest that a wacko like long-retired ex-Major General Stubblebine has some credibility with his 9/11 conspiracy theories, or with anything else? Because of Stargate? Stubblebine was forced to retire in 1984 and was replaced because of his obsession with the paranormal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project#Major_General_Albert_Stubblebine Not very surprising - The primary mission of military intelligence in the United States Army is to provide timely, relevant, accurate, and synchronized intelligence and electronic warfare support to tactical, operational and strategic-level commanders. Not a trivial matter. If you were a field commander would you want someone like Stubblebine doing that job for you? How do you explain the deception in the YouTube title? The headline says: U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event. ... Ah, so he WAS a major general once, and indeed head of army intelligence, but he retired **25 years ago**. Not quite the same thing eh. ... Why the misleading headline? Not deliberate? Hey, Kirk, do some checking first, will you, please? Best Keith Kirk The eyes see what the mind knows --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Douglas Woodard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Douglas Woodard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 9:42 AM No conspiracy was needed. Bin Laden knew what the U.S. wanted: an excuse for U.S. armies in the Middle East. The U.S. knew what Bin Laden wanted first: a major strike at the U.S., by preference at the World Trade centre (they had tried before, and it was highly symbolic). They differed on what the result of U.S. armies in the Middle East would be. Points to Bin Laden. Doug Woodard St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada Keith Addison wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFP_zKYU3aENR=1 Aarghh!! Youtube! Who's got 5 min 16 sec to spare? This is quicker... The headline says: U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event. But is he the Head of US Military Intelligence? No. It takes only the first 5 sec of Youtube for him to state that his name is Major General Albert Stubblebine, and another 10 sec to find this at wikipedia: Major General Albert Bert N. Stubblebine III was the commanding general of the United States Army Intelligence and Security Command from 1981 to 1984, when he retired from the Army. He is known for his interest in parapsychology and was a supporter of the Stargate Project. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Stubblebine Ah, so he WAS a major general once, and indeed head of army intelligence, but he retired **25 years ago**. Not quite the same thing eh. (Walked through any walls lately Bert?) That saved 5 min 1 sec, and gave a much better result. Why the misleading headline? Not deliberate? Matthew Rothschild of the Progressive again: Enough of the 9/11 Conspiracy Theories, Already http://www.alternet.org/story/41601/ If it doesn't start off with the preferred conclusion-of-choice and then go in search of the facts to prove it, but instead simply goes in search of facts, along with all the patient and careful cross-checking that takes, and then emerges with a fact-based conclusion that checks out, or even with just some hard facts without a conclusion... well then, that's different. But AFAIK it hasn't happened yet, and don't hold yer breath. Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages):
[Biofuel] Words Matter
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23446.htm Words Matter By Ralph Nader September 07, 2009 Information Clearing House -- Ever wonder what's happening to words once they fall into the hands of corporate and government propagandists? Too often reporters and editors don't wonder enough. They ditto the words even when the result is deception or doubletalk. Here are some examples. Day in and day out we read about detainees imprisoned for months or years by the federal government in the U.S., Guantanamo Bay, Iraq and Afghanistan. Doesn't the media know that the correct word is prisoners, regardless of what Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld disseminated? The raging debate and controversy over health insurance and the $2.5 trillion spent this year on health care involves consumers and providers. How touching to describe sellers or vendors, often gouging, denying benefits, manipulating fine print contracts, cheating Medicare and Medicaid in the tens of billions as providers. I always thought providers were persons taking care of their families or engaging in charitable service. Somehow, the dictionary definition does not fit the frequently avaricious profiles of Aetna, United Healthcare, Pfizer and Merck. Privatization and the private sector are widespread euphemisms that the press falls for daily. Moving government owned assets or functions into corporate hands, as with Blackwater, Halliburton, and the conglomerates now controlling public highways, prisons, and drinking water systems is corporatization, not the soft imagery of going private or into the private sector. It is the corporate sector! Medical malpractice reform is another misnomer. It used to mean restricting the legal rights of wrongfully injured people by hospitals and doctors, or limiting the liability of these corporate vendors when their negligence harms innocent patients. Well, to anybody interested in straight talk, medical malpractice reform or the medical malpractice crisis should apply to bad or negligent practices by medical professionals. After all, about 100,000 people die every year from physician/hospital malpractice, according to a Harvard School of Public Health report. Hundreds of thousands are rendered sick or injured, not to mention even larger tolls from hospital-induced infections. Proposed reforms are sticking it to the wrong people-the patients-not the sellers. Free trade is a widely used euphemism. It is corporate managed trade as evidenced in hundreds of pages of rules favoring corporations in NAFTA and the World Trade Organization. Free trade lowers barriers between countries so that cartels, unjustified patent monopolies, counterfeiting, contraband, and other harmful practices and products can move around the world unhindered. What is remarkable about the constant use of these words is that they permeate the language even if those who stand against the policies of those who first coin these euphemisms. You'll read about detainees and providers and privatization and private sector and free trade in the pages of the Nation and Progressive magazines, at progressive conferences with progressive leaders, and during media interviews. After people point out these boomeranging words to them, still nothing changes. Their habit is chronic. A lot of who we are, of what we do and think is expressed through the language we choose. The word tends to become the thing in our mind as Stuart Chase pointed out seventy years ago in his classic work The Tyranny of Words. Let us stop disrespecting the dictionary! Let's stop succumbing to the propagandists and the public relations tricksters! Frank Luntz-the word wizard for the Republicans who invented the term death tax to replace estate tax is so contemptuous of the Democratic Party's verbal ineptitude (such as using public option instead of public choice and regularly using the above-noted misnomers) that he dares them by offering free advice to the Democrats. He suggests they could counteract his death tax with their own term the billionaires' tax. There were no Democratic takers. Remember, words matter. Using words that are accurate and at face value is one of the characteristics of a good book. Three new books stand out for their straight talk. In Grand Illusion: The Myth of Voter Choice in a Two-party Tyranny, Theresa Amato, my former campaign manager, exposes the obstructions that deny voter choice by the two major parties for third party and independent candidates. Just out is Empire of Illusion: The End of Literacy and the Triumph of Spectacle by Pulitzer Prize winner, Chris Hedges. Lastly, the boisterous, mischievous short autobiography of that free spirit, Jerry Lee Wilson, The Soloflex Story: An American Parable. Not withstanding their different styles, these authors exercise semantic discipline. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Re: [Biofuel] Your taxes at work (oink alert)
A comment by spoz22 Anyone who has loyalty to either party is wasting their time. There's white collar criminals all around us. I say if you can't beat 'em join 'em. Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, in our own little ways we've all sold our souls at one point, so don't cast a stone because someone has done it on a more grand scale than you. This airport is the poster child for social irresponsibility. Only in America sigh Kirk The eyes see what the mind knows --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Duncan Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Duncan Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Your taxes at work (oink alert) To: Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 7:38 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvzNj0Vobss -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090908/6e48f499/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event
-of-choice and then go in search of the facts to prove it, but instead simply goes in search of facts, along with all the patient and careful cross-checking that takes, and then emerges with a fact-based conclusion that checks out, or even with just some hard facts without a conclusion... well then, that's different. But AFAIK it hasn't happened yet, and don't hold yer breath. Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090908/982af3e9/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] We The People Stimulus Package
Yeah Keith but when you reply we get some meat. Maybe you dont fully realize how unusual you are. You surpass my best efforts in your sleep. I saw that video and was a bit overwhelmed. Makes sense somebody paid for it - was well done. Not an amateur effort. Kirk The eyes see what the mind knows --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] We The People Stimulus Package To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 3:11 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyAeurl=http%3A%2F%2F quite a presentation Kirk Aarghh!! 6 min 35 secs! So what should we do, round up all the immigrants and aliens and put them in death camps or what? Opt for the military solution? Is that what the real Tom Payne would have thought? Anyway, I wouldn't call it a presentation, it's a production, with a script. Do you think the guy in the video wrote the script? If not then who did write it? Whoever, it doesn't come cheap. How often do you see production values like that on YouTube? Wouldn't it be an idea to follow the money, or at least look with some suspicion at what all that money paid for? Here again, something pretending to be what it's not, and it's obvious. We the people my ass. The person pretending to be Tom Payne is Bob Basso, an actor/presenter who's up for commercial hire. http://www.bobbasso.com/ His (?) YouTube offerings created some minor flurry when he first uploaded them six months ago. This should take less than 6 min 35 secs to read: http://moonslurpies.blogspot.com/2009/03/real-revolution-or-tom-paine-is-fake.html THURSDAY, MARCH 26, 2009 Tom Paine is a Psyop Indeed. YouTube is useful, but IMHO it needs some value-added, some assessment, not just a link and three or four words. People are busy, they should have some idea of what they're in for. Why is it interesting/useful/funny/ridiculous/outrageous/whatever? Something like a mini movie review, one pithy paragraph would do. Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090908/b7c52cfa/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fw: [Longevity] HIN1 is probably from a laboratory says NEJM
so they finally admit it. Kirk The eyes see what the mind knows --- On Tue, 9/8/09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Longevity] HIN1 is probably from a laboratory says NEJM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: AAR [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 5:25 AM Source of HIN1 is probably a laboratory says New England Journal of Medicine Monday, 07 September 2009 11:11 In a report that appeared in the New England Journal of Medicine, scientists say that the reemergence of the H1N1 virus in 1977 is unexplained and probably represents reintroduction to humans from a laboratory source. http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/NEJMra0904322 Figure 1. Emergence of Influenza A (H1N1) Viruses from Birds and Swine into Humans. The diagram shows the important events and processes in the emergence of influenza A (H1N1) viruses during the past 91 years. Avian, swine, and human populations are represented in the top, middle, and bottom of the diagram, respectively. Epidemic or zoonotic viruses are shown as wide horizontal arrows (white for avian viruses, light blue or pink for swine viruses, and dark blue for human viruses). Cross-species transmissions are shown as vertical dashed lines, with thick lines for transfers that gave rise to sustained transmission in the new host and thin lines for those that were transient and resulted in a self-limited number of cases. Principal dates are shown along the bottom of the diagram. The disappearance of H1N1 in 1957 most likely represents competition by the emerging pandemic H2N2 strain in the face of population immunity to H1N1. The reemergence in 1977 is unexplained and probably represents reintroduction to humans from a laboratory source. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Note: This forum is for discussion of health related subjects but under no circumstances should any information published here be considered a substitute for personal medical advice from a qualified physician. -the owner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Longevity/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Longevity/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090908/7f7f8d76/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] We The People Stimulus Package
Yeah Keith but when you reply we get some meat. I'm not willing to do it for you, I really, really, don't have the time, and there's no need anyway. Do it yourself, first, before posting, it's your obligation. Maybe you dont fully realize how unusual you are. Nonsense, anyone can do it. You can ask simple questions. You surpass my best efforts in your sleep. I don't think you're making an effort, that's the whole problem. I saw that video and was a bit overwhelmed. Makes sense somebody paid for it - was well done. Not an amateur effort. So you learned a lesson then, and next time you'll know, yes? Think first, ask questions first. There are a helluva lot of good resources here on how to do that, more than anywhere else I know of. Why won't you use it? Best Keith Kirk The eyes see what the mind knows --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] We The People Stimulus Package To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 3:11 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyAeurl=http%3A%2F%2F quite a presentation Kirk Aarghh!! 6 min 35 secs! So what should we do, round up all the immigrants and aliens and put them in death camps or what? Opt for the military solution? Is that what the real Tom Payne would have thought? Anyway, I wouldn't call it a presentation, it's a production, with a script. Do you think the guy in the video wrote the script? If not then who did write it? Whoever, it doesn't come cheap. How often do you see production values like that on YouTube? Wouldn't it be an idea to follow the money, or at least look with some suspicion at what all that money paid for? Here again, something pretending to be what it's not, and it's obvious. We the people my ass. The person pretending to be Tom Payne is Bob Basso, an actor/presenter who's up for commercial hire. http://www.bobbasso.com/ His (?) YouTube offerings created some minor flurry when he first uploaded them six months ago. This should take less than 6 min 35 secs to read: http://moonslurpies.blogspot.com/2009/03/real-revolution-or-tom-paine-is-fake.html THURSDAY, MARCH 26, 2009 Tom Paine is a Psyop Indeed. YouTube is useful, but IMHO it needs some value-added, some assessment, not just a link and three or four words. People are busy, they should have some idea of what they're in for. Why is it interesting/useful/funny/ridiculous/outrageous/whatever? Something like a mini movie review, one pithy paragraph would do. Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090908/b7c52cfa/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event
No, he is outside the expectation of a military officer. Just too free a spirit perhaps. More like a deluded one perhaps, or a somewhat deranged one perhaps. Let's put it this way: it's sheer BS, it shouldn't even have been posted. Who else retired would step up to the plate No need to put it quite so nobly. Step up with what, is the question. Stepping up with fact-free conspiracisms and perhaps not being very honest about it isn't a contribution to anything other than confusion. - well maybe Benton K. Partin Brigadier Gen. USAF (Ret.) 8908 Captains Row Alexandria, Virginia 22308 703-780-7652. http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/PARTIN/okm.htm oklahoma bombing My word, Kirk, you will have your conspiracies won't you. Got any facts rather than just claims and opinions and assertions? I mean, got any that someone like me will accept as facts? The list itself is the same, it has a long and honorable tradition of being rigorous, as you know. We're quite happy to explore possibilities or we wouldn't have achieved what we have, but sheer conjecture dressed up as fact isn't included. Partin was a research scientist - invented the continuous rod warhead. very qualified guy. Made bombs, nice. Couldn't we have done without more and better bombs? Best Keith Kirk The eyes see what the mind knows --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 3:11 AM The stargate project was spook remote viewing. Does spook mean spy or ghost, in this context? Stargate was devoted to **psychic** remote viewing, the purported ability to psychically 'see' events, sites, or information from a great distance. Bit superfluous to say it wasn't exactly successful. Echelon works at least, on the other hand, for instance, as opposed to pixie dust. CIA put effort into it. I know, but I don't think that gives it much cred. The Soviets tried it too, that's why the US tried it. It achieved nothing. Not as woo woo as you might think. Totally woo woo, IMHO, just as I thought. Sure, maybe some people are psychic or clairvoyant or even telepathic, maybe everybody is, or could be, maybe that's how the whole biosphere really works, who knows, but trying to use clairvoyance as a reliable technique for intelligence gathering or to support conspiracy theories is ludicrous. Wikipedia will do, very easy, no need to go any further: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project Anyway, is this to suggest that a wacko like long-retired ex-Major General Stubblebine has some credibility with his 9/11 conspiracy theories, or with anything else? Because of Stargate? Stubblebine was forced to retire in 1984 and was replaced because of his obsession with the paranormal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project#Major_General_Albert_Stubblebine Not very surprising - The primary mission of military intelligence in the United States Army is to provide timely, relevant, accurate, and synchronized intelligence and electronic warfare support to tactical, operational and strategic-level commanders. Not a trivial matter. If you were a field commander would you want someone like Stubblebine doing that job for you? How do you explain the deception in the YouTube title? The headline says: U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event. ... Ah, so he WAS a major general once, and indeed head of army intelligence, but he retired **25 years ago**. Not quite the same thing eh. ... Why the misleading headline? Not deliberate? Hey, Kirk, do some checking first, will you, please? Best Keith Kirk The eyes see what the mind knows --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Douglas Woodard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Douglas Woodard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 9:42 AM No conspiracy was needed. Bin Laden knew what the U.S. wanted: an excuse for U.S. armies in the Middle East. The U.S. knew what Bin Laden wanted first: a major strike at the U.S., by preference at the World Trade centre (they had tried before, and it was highly symbolic). They differed on what the result of U.S. armies in the Middle East would be. Points to Bin Laden. Doug Woodard St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada Keith Addison wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFP_zKYU3aENR=1 Aarghh!! Youtube! Who's got 5 min 16 sec to spare? This is quicker... The headline says: U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event. But is he the Head of US Military Intelligence? No. It takes only the first 5 sec of Youtube for him to state that his name is Major General Albert
Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Sta
Thankyou Shan, I didn't know about any of this, re the Natural Solutions Foundation etc. The very model of a modern major general eh? I guess we'll never run out of people like this. Pity some folks don't retire when they retire. I'll give the links to Dr Rath's site a read tomorrow (need some shuteye first). Thanks again, keep up the good work - and confusion to Codex. All best Keith Stubblebine is a lowlife, a fraud and a con.- however he is very good at his 'professsion' . Or at least he is if you think he has good will towards the avarage citizen or for what is good for the average citizen . His wife, Rima, is of the same caliber - actually she may be worse. But they work together. I personally have a problem with people whose ethics and morals are for sale - or whom just do not have any and all that matters to them is money. However this man and his wife learn form their mistakes and frequently are quite smart ... or cunning , whatever word you want to use. On the other hand those people whom support Codex and how it effects our health and rights, those people will have no problem with the Natural Solutions Foundation nor its founders. Or at least relatively little. Though realize that if you wish to sign any so-called 'petitions' on their website, that frequently these are bogus and do nowhere - at least when they are supposed to be against Codex and for health freedom. . I got most of this information I have on these two from Health Freedom Advocates - both those in the States as well as couple in Britain. The Stubbelbines have also started a yahoo 'health' group - about vaccinations actually. They even frequently ask for donations of the members - the only yahoo health group that I have ever heard of that does that. Most groups will ban you for asking for donations - but I guess as it is the 'owners' who do the asking for some reason it is allowed. A year or so ago, I joined their group out of curiousity and was templed to ask for donations to assist the health freedom effrorts - but got disgusted and left instead. However, I did discuss this group with health freedom advocates in both the States as well as Britain though. I am not involved in this effort myself, I just know some people whom are and have an interest in trying to stop Codex from controlling issues in Canada and the States. I assume that the people here are familiar with Dr Rath and the Rath Foundation? A Modern Major General Exposed? the Natural Solutions Foundation _http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/Events/codex-moderngenera l.html_ (http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/Events/codex-moderngeneral.html) Codex Meeting in Ottawa- Business as Usual or Stunning Victory for Health Freedom? _http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/Events/codex-ottawa.htm_ (http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/Events/codex-ottawa.htm) Codex and Health Freedom- Be Wary of the Instant Experts _http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/Events/codex-beware.htm_ (http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/Events/codex-beware.htm) Miracle in Rome? _http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/Events/codex-miracle.htm_ (http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/Events/codex-miracle.htm) CONTROLLED OPPOSITION GROUPS Citizens for Health and Natural Solutions Foundation are controlled opposition groups on the Codex issue. We believe the true purpose of these groups is to assist the pharma dominated vitamin trade associations by recommending grass roots actions which appear plausible on the surface to the poorly informed, but which upon close inspection fail to hold up to careful scrutiny. IAHF has not been alone in exposing NSF as a controlled opposition group- for additional clarification please see these articles from The Dr. Rath Health Foundation, The National Health Federation, and the Alliance for Natural Health: Seeing Through Spin of Citizens for Health and The Natural Solutions Foundation on the CODEX Vitamin Issue. - exposes NSF as a controlled opposition group.They're formally trained in Neurolingustic Programming, the Delphi Technique, the Semantic Differential, and many other tactics of psychological warfare and disinformation. The pretend to be on our side, but the reality is that all they ever do is work against us. _http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3312735.htm_ (http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3312735.htm) Here is a little background info more about Stubblebine plus his wife. CANADIAN SUBMARINE TECHNOLOGIES INC Albert N. Stubblebine III (Maj. Gen., US Army, Ret) - Croton on Hudson NY Albert N. Stubblebine III (Maj. Gen., US Army, Ret) was graduated from The United States Military Academy (West Point) and served with distinction in the US Army for 32 years. Starting his career as an Armor officer, he had the opportunity to command troops
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of army intelligence, but he retired **25 years ago**. Not quite the same thing eh. (Walked through any walls lately Bert?) That saved 5 min 1 sec, and gave a much better result. Why the misleading headline? Not deliberate? Matthew Rothschild of the Progressive again: Enough of the 9/11 Conspiracy Theories, Already _http://www.alternet.org/story/41601/_ (http://www.alternet.org/story/41601/) If it doesn't start off with the preferred conclusion-of-choice and then go in search of the facts to prove it, but instead simply goes in search of facts, along with all the patient and careful cross-checking that takes, and then emerges with a fact-based conclusion that checks out, or even with just some hard facts without a conclusion... well then, that's different. But AFAIK it hasn't happened yet, and don't hold yer breath. Best Keith -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090908/3ee4e43e/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
