date:20200712

Dear Jed, 

I'd be grateful on behalf of the whole TW community.

Look forward...

Olegh

неділя, 12 липня 2020 р. 11:37:32 UTC+3 користувач Jed Carty написав:
>
> I made a prototype 360 image and video viewer that worked in tiddlywiki to 
> show off images and video from Robbie around Paris, I will see if I can 
> find them in the huge mess that is my development archive.
>

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[tw5] 360 panorama galleries and tours in Tiddlywiki

Dear All,

there are scarce examples on the topic "*360 panorama galleries and tours 
in Tiddlywiki*". I actually found the only one:

   - https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/AOWugx5hZ9k 

The given example is impressive, however, it is limited to a single 
panoramic shot having fixed name "panorama.jpg". Neither gallery, nor 
transitions between shots for the tour making.

At the same time there are plenty of JS plugins/libraries in Internet 
covering this topic.

Does somebody of the TW community has notion regarding how some of these JS 
plugins/libraries can be implemented in Tiddlywiki?

I believe it is another promising niche for Tiddlywiki use.

Olegh

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[tw5] [Tangetially tiddlywiki] mathcha

2020-07-12 Thread Ste

I've just discovered https://www.mathcha.io/ and like it a lot  Not as much as 
tiddlywiki, obviously ;)

I bring it up here for a few reasons;

a) some people here might appreciate using https://www.mathcha.io/

b) In my fantasy future mathcha and tiddlywiki collide and make something 
awsome!

c) Could mathcha provide some input into the ongoing thoughts of wysiwyg 
tiddlers?

Ste

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[tw5] Re: 360 panorama galleries and tours in Tiddlywiki

2020-07-12 Thread Birthe C

Are you looking for this: https://ooktech.com/jed/360stills/gallery.html 

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: Another editor in the ViewTemplate

@clutterstack, thanks for sharing stuff.

You may find interest in my QuickTid plugin http://quicktid.tiddlyspot.com/

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: 360 photos reply / Are conversations disappearing?

The conversation is still there 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/ZE2ARyQFAEw/Hye19WrIBwAJ

неділя, 12 липня 2020 р. 16:06:00 UTC+3 користувач David Gifford написав:
>
>
> Hi all
>
> There was a thread asking about 360 photos. I replied by attaching the 
> attached file I did in 2018. 
>
> Then when hitting reply all, Google told me the conversation didn't exist 
> anymore.
>
> This has happened before, and so I refreshed my browser. Now it is gone. 
> Did it actually get deleted? Or is the new Google Groups glitchy?
>

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[tw5] Re: How to use the Vim mode in Code-Mirror?

2020-07-12 Thread Soren Bjornstad

Mark,

As you've observed, this is happening because Escape is bound to 
*cancel-edit-tiddler* by default. If you're not attached to that specific 
keyboard shortcut, you can easily disable it in the Keyboard Shortcuts tab 
of the control panel. I just change mine to Control-Escape, though that's a 
bad choice if you use Windows since it opens the start menu.

On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 1:19:23 PM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> I was trying to use the Code Mirror Vim keymap.
>
> The problem is that the escape key, which is used to change edit modes in 
> Vim, is still mapped to the the "cancel tiddler" functionality in 
> TiddlyWiki. So you can't change modes without also closing out the current 
> tiddler and abandoning your changes!
>
> I assume that some alternative key has been mapped, but if so, it hasn't 
> been documented.
>
> Is there a magic incantation for using Vim in Code Mirror on TiddlyWiki ?
>
> Thanks!
>

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[tw5] Re: JSONMangler and nested JSON

2020-07-12 Thread 'Werner' via TiddlyWiki

Hi Joshua,

thanks so much for your answer. This has taken me a lot further.

But, reconsidering my original question, I found, that, maybe, I got stuck 
too much in the procedural paradigm, and a more elegant approach would be, 
if one could could use each[] for looping through a JSON array. Taking your 
example this should look something like:

<$list filter="[[MyJson]indexes[/path/to/array]each[]]">
{{##FieldFromJsonArray}}


I tried to do it, but didn't succeed. I understand that each[] expects a 
list separated with spaces, so my assumption would be that this does not 
work unless an overloaded version of each[] is provided. OTOH, I found an 
undocumented function ForEach[] in JSONMANGLER. Any clue?

I created three JSON test tiddlers. One with a nested array of 4 elements 
and another with 3 and a third one with a one-element array. I looped 
through them like this

<$list filter="[tag[Facility]]">
...
<$set name="arrLength" filter="[indexes[/Actions]count[]]">
Array Length: <>
 


and was able to display all fields and the array fields as JSON text. 
Strangely, the arrLength variable displayed a value of 4 for all three 
tiddlers. No idea why. Will have to dive deeper into it.

Thanks again
Werner



Am Samstag, 11. Juli 2020 21:24:07 UTC+2 schrieb Joshua Fontany:
>
> Hi,
>
> Great to see people experimenting with my tools. 
>
> Two things to note. 1) 0-index based arrays can always have a new object 
> written to an index equal to the length of the array. Example, "[0,1,2]", I 
> can push "3" to {{MyJson##3}}, and it will be "[0,1,2,3]". Neat trick. 2) 
> You can count an array's length using filters as long as you know the 
> position of the array within the nexted JSON structure, like so:
> ```
> <$var name="arrLength" filter="[[MyJson]indexes[/path/to/array]count[]]">
> Array Length: <>
>   
> ```
>
> Combine the two techniques like so (note the final slash on the new path 
> gets added on as a prefix before adding the path to the array):
> ```
> <$var name="arrLength" filter="[[MyJson]indexes[/path/to/array]count[]]">
> <$var name="newIndex" 
> filter="[addprefix[/]addprefix[/path/to/array]]">  
> <$button setTitle="MyJson" setIndex=<> setTo="New Data" />
> 
>  
> ``` 
> You could use the form `setTo={{New Data Tiddler}}` to grab the new data 
> from the text-field of the "New Data Tiddler", etc, etc.
>
> Best,
> Joshua Fontany
> On Friday, July 10, 2020 at 1:14:52 AM UTC-7 Werner wrote:
>
>> Hi Tony,
>>
>> thanks for taking your time and your extensive reply. Perhaps I've made 
>> it too complicated. Ok, I try to reformulate it. Disclaimer also: I work in 
>> a corporate environment, so I'm not completely free in the tools I am 
>> allowed to use (to my surprise, Node.js is ok - ye!) and how much 
>> information I can disclose.
>>
>> Let's put it that way: I have set up an internal information repository 
>> which contains more or less textual information only so far. But now and 
>> then, I would like to display some figures. And I would have to perform 
>> some simple arithmetics with that figures (basically summing up).
>>
>> Let's call the things I am looking at "facilities". A "facility" should 
>> be displayed in a templated tiddler, displaying textual and quantitative 
>> information. Each "facility" can feature several "units" (that's the 1:n 
>> relation), figures for which should also be displayed and/or shown as a 
>> grand total. 
>>
>> The data for the facility/unit information should initially come from an 
>> Excel table. For further use (the CRUD part), I would like to create a 
>> TW-based interface. As "facility" is a comprehensive entity for my 
>> purposes, I thought it would be ok to store it in a nested JSON tiddler, 
>> i.e. store the units per facility in a JSON array. This, of course, breaks 
>> the RDBMS dogma, but it saves me from having to fiddle with primary keys. 
>> Mimicking a RDBMS in TW is definitely not a rabbit hole I want to jump 
>> into. If I needed something like that, I would try if I could connect a DB 
>> backend via Node.js (in my special environment I would end up with SQLite 
>> or ODBC), and let this do the grunt work. 
>>
>> All this being said, here's the core of my question: Accessing nested 
>> JSON data using Joshua Fontenay's JSONMANGLER plugin works great, as long 
>> as the index position is known, but I need a way to determine the length of 
>> a variable-length array in a JSON structure, for not running out-of-bounds 
>> while looping into the nested data. I understand $:/History is such a 
>> variable-length array, and thanks for pointing me at this. In that case, 
>> maybe I need to look up how data are retrieved from there. I know, as a 
>> workaround, I still could store the number of units as a data field in the 
>> JSON structure, but then I would have to take care of it programatically, 
>> which I want to avoid.
>>
>> Thanks again and apologies for any confusion I caused
>> Werner
>>
>>
>> TW Tones schrieb am Freitag, 10.

[tw5] Re: Another editor in the ViewTemplate

Hi Mat,

Haha, I knew I wouldn't really be exploring uncharted waters. There's also
some overlap in purpose with Drift, Streams, NotoWritey, and Stroll in the
plugins I've been writing (and I'm hoping that when my macros are done, I
can easily integrate some plugins from some of those to make my TW sweeter).

I do note that your plugin has the word "quick" in its name as well. I
managed to miss that. I was aware that Eric Shulman had something called
QuickNote some time ago, so my convenience macro ended up being called
arrownote, not to duplicate that exactly. My Vue.js version was called
RapidNotes, but it felt quicker to say "quick" in my head. :P And "rapid"
is yet another common word for "fast", which surely someone has used as
well. I momentarily called it "Rapids" (you know, like in a river where you
might find tiddlers) but that seemed a bit contrived. I know, that's a lot
of thinking over a macro name.

Thanks for the link. It is indeed a similar idea - fire off tiddlers
quickly, without disturbing the story. I'm curious: do you use QuickTid in
your current workflow?

Your newer SideEditor breaks out of the Story River linearity in a
complementary way, I notice.

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[tw5] Re: 360 photos reply / Are conversations disappearing?

2020-07-12 Thread Eric Shulman

On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 6:06:00 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>
> This has happened before, and so I refreshed my browser. Now it is gone. 
> Did it actually get deleted? Or is the new Google Groups glitchy?
>

I'd say the new Google Groups interface is glitchy.  The thread you 
referred to is still there, and the post you made is there as well.

-e

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[tw5] Re: 360 panorama galleries and tours in Tiddlywiki

Thanks a lot, Birthe,

that's the simple yet effective thing. Although it looks like a static 
solution made outside the TW environment. 

As I mentioned in the topic title the capability to manage "360 panorama 
galleries and tours in Tiddlywiki" would be of much higher interest for the 
TW community.

It's quite possible that such an html-code could be generated by (or using) 
TW in node.js. However, so far it is not clear.

Are there some other alternatives?

Olegh

неділя, 12 липня 2020 р. 12:07:34 UTC+3 користувач Birthe C написав:
>
> Are you looking for this: https://ooktech.com/jed/360stills/gallery.html 
>
> Birthe
>
>

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[tw5] Re: 360 panorama galleries and tours in Tiddlywiki

David, thanks a lot,

it's amazing how many useful stuff can be found in personal stocks of 
everyone of us, and vise versa, much less in open internet. 

In both references mentioned above in this discussion 
http://heeg.ru/panorama.html and 
https://ooktech.com/jed/360stills/gallery.html all the photos are 
controlled completely by a web resource creator. Whereas your very neat and 
tidy example is based on TW (that is exactly what I asked about), but 
references to GSV (external Google panoramic file service).

My primary idea and corresponding request were about a personally 
controllable panorama gallery, which is usually acceptable by members of 
the TW community.

I'd be grateful for any other relevant alternative approach.

Olegh

неділя, 12 липня 2020 р. 16:01:10 UTC+3 користувач David Gifford написав:
>
> This is something I did in 2018 for myself: 
>
> On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 7:34:31 AM UTC-5 oleghbond wrote:
>
>> Thanks a lot, Birthe,
>>
>> that's the simple yet effective thing. Although it looks like a static 
>> solution made outside the TW environment. 
>>
>> As I mentioned in the topic title the capability to manage "360 panorama 
>> galleries and tours in Tiddlywiki" would be of much higher interest for the 
>> TW community.
>>
>> It's quite possible that such an html-code could be generated by (or 
>> using) TW in node.js. However, so far it is not clear.
>>
>> Are there some other alternatives?
>>
>> Olegh
>>
>> неділя, 12 липня 2020 р. 12:07:34 UTC+3 користувач Birthe C написав:
>>
>>> Are you looking for this: https://ooktech.com/jed/360stills/gallery.html 
>>>
>>>
>>> Birthe
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Another editor in the ViewTemplate

Oho, I think I do remember seeing rQuickTid! I didn't quite get what it was 
at the time. The separate satellite window is a very neat idea -- I can 
make my whole TW layout just an input tiddler, but separating it out while 
the parent wiki is open seems more interesting. I see you've also made the 
browser window cleaner. 

Cheers,
Chris

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[tw5] Re: Another editor in the ViewTemplate

2020-07-12 Thread Saq Imtiaz

@Clutterstack

Note that Streams is a plugin created to serve as a reference 
implementation for creating a tiddler hierarchy workflow with keyboard 
support. As such, please feel free to use anything in the code you may find 
useful.

Regarding UI ideas and separate windows you may find this interesting (the 
first minute or so):
https://youtu.be/lvnqgfvohfM?t=756

On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 6:57:35 PM UTC+2, clutterstack wrote:
>
> Oho, I think I do remember seeing rQuickTid! I didn't quite get what it 
> was at the time. The separate satellite window is a very neat idea -- I can 
> make my whole TW layout just an input tiddler, but separating it out while 
> the parent wiki is open seems more interesting. I see you've also made the 
> browser window cleaner. 
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>

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[tw5] Re: Need opinions on adding proper attribution statements in publicly shared TiddlyWikis


Hi CJ,

Do you mean the info in the bottom corner and under the "Licences" link? It 
looks good to me in the sense that it highlights (even advertises) 
TiddlyWiki and the Relink plugin as someone else's work, and provides 
copies of their own licenses. 

I worry a bit that if users paste static text re: links and licenses, it 
may become onerous to keep up to date; a license tab in any plugin seems a 
good solution to me, but not all plugins have them. I think this type of 
thing must have come up before, but I am convinced Google intends to kill 
Groups by attrition through neglect and terrible search.

Given that this document is specifically about incorporating the work of 
others into a working document, it's very nice that you go to so much work 
over the attributions.

I think it would be beneficial to have a standard way (through the plugin 
mechanism) to clearly advertise TiddlyWiki and the great plugins people 
find useful. I'd be interested to see whether the big fish here have 
something to say.

Cheers,
Chris

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[tw5] Re: Autoscroll in TW

2020-07-12 Thread Eric Shulman

Another update:

* added handling for ENTER, SPACE, and ESCAPE to start, pause/resume, and 
stop auto-scrolling
* added documentation

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[tw5] Re: Autoscroll in TW

2020-07-12 Thread Adithya B M

Hi Eric,

Thanks for all the work. Superb stuff!

Some feedback:
1) In the latest version, the width of the content in autoscroll tiddlers 
is reduced in my TW (is it because of the new "scrollContent"/"scrollframe" 
container?). I see its not the case in your demo TW. I wonder why...
2) Also, could we do without adding a white background to the autoscroll 
tiddlers? I have a black themed TW, so i generally remove it manually.

Adithya

On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 10:12:17 PM UTC+5:30, Eric Shulman wrote:
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> Another update:
>
> * added handling for ENTER, SPACE, and ESCAPE to start, pause/resume, and 
> stop auto-scrolling
> * added documentation
>
> -e
>

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[tw5] Re: Another editor in the ViewTemplate

Hi Saq,

Thanks for the link. I admit I never made time to watch that hangout video 
before, but it was good. I love your Notation app.

I very much like your approaches in general, especially the keyboard 
integration. I'm trying not to look too much at Streams and NotoWritey, 
because I want to see whether I end up converging on the same thing or 
ending up with something different. Also because, before I started 
building, I hadn't learned enough about filters and variables in TW to 
really understand what I'm looking at. My list-making macros are pretty 
mature now, though messy. I'll be looking at Streams when I go to add 
keyboard support for rearranging tiddlers in a list.

I've already benefited from your contributions on the group (and those of 
many others), and also have to say I peeked at your GitHub to figure out 
how to package a plugin, and to see how you made your bullet points with 
CSS (ha!). 

You mentioned learning JS from reading the TiddlyWiki Classic code -- I 
believe the first JS I ever wrote came from tweaking my TiddlyWiki starting 
in 2005 (hey, I had a dissertation to write). I did not (more's probably 
the pity) go through and understand the TW file. I let the JS internals be 
a bit mysterious to me for many years.

Coming back to it, I can't believe what we can now do using just WikiText 
macros. Even if sometimes it would be easier to write in JS than to figure 
out what is going wrong with my filter. :P

I've always agreed that TW's superpower is as a platform for building for 
your own personalised thing. Well, that and working locally. Two 
superpowers, at least. If anyone ever uses my own macro code, I expect it 
would be more as a basis to build what they want than as a packaged add-on. 

Cheers,
Chris

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[tw5] Re: Another editor in the ViewTemplate

clutterstack wrote:

> I do note that your plugin has the word "quick" in its name as well.
>

No problem for me personally, hopefully it won't cause confusion for others 
just.

> I'm curious: do you use QuickTid in your current workflow?
>

I'm typically not in the environment where it is required, i.e where it it 
critical to take notes fast such as during a lecture. I did develop 
QuickTid further into rQuickTid  
(r=remote) which kind of serves both as a quick way to take notes but also 
as tool for writing to TW while working with other stuff - it needs to be 
coupled with a non TW-tool that sticks the editor at front of screen 
though, like DeskPins 

(the one I use).

Your newer SideEditor breaks out of the Story River linearity in a 
> complementary way, I notice.
>

Yes, I find it interesting that there are several aspects to authoring. I 
think native TW is great at managing notes but not for taking notes. I'm 
working on improving these things - currently on EditorMagic with 
invaluable help from Saq. Soon to be released I hope.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: [Tangetially tiddlywiki] mathcha

That's really neat.

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[tw5] Re: How to use the Vim mode in Code-Mirror?

2020-07-12 Thread tony

Hi 

5.1.22 on TiddlyServer 
and the old controls still work like Ctrl-c 
 for 
returning to Normal mode and 
cool stuff like setting and jumping to marks and command mode substitutions

Best,
tony


On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 6:53:48 AM UTC-7 soren.b...@gmail.com wrote:

> Mark,
>
> As you've observed, this is happening because Escape is bound to 
> *cancel-edit-tiddler* by default. If you're not attached to that specific 
> keyboard shortcut, you can easily disable it in the Keyboard Shortcuts tab 
> of the control panel. I just change mine to Control-Escape, though that's a 
> bad choice if you use Windows since it opens the start menu.
>
> On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 1:19:23 PM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>
>> I was trying to use the Code Mirror Vim keymap.
>>
>> The problem is that the escape key, which is used to change edit modes in 
>> Vim, is still mapped to the the "cancel tiddler" functionality in 
>> TiddlyWiki. So you can't change modes without also closing out the current 
>> tiddler and abandoning your changes!
>>
>> I assume that some alternative key has been mapped, but if so, it hasn't 
>> been documented.
>>
>> Is there a magic incantation for using Vim in Code Mirror on TiddlyWiki ?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>

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[tw5] TiddlyDesktop exits w/ error on Fedora 30

Hi, TiddlyDesktop exits with an error. Terminal output attached. Error that 
starts with 7606 repeated numerous times. thanks

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[jeffrey@216-235-121-hcc-70:~] $'/home/jeffrey/Desktop/Tiddly 
Desktop/TiddlyDesktop_v0.0.14/nw' 
Gtk-Message: 10:26:59.808: Failed to load module "appmenu-gtk-module"
[7586:7586:0712/102659.89:ERROR:process_singleton_posix.cc(325)] The 
profile appears to be in use by another NW.js process (32293) on another 
computer (216-235-121-HCC-70.hcc.net). NW.js has locked the profile so that it 
doesn't get corrupted. If you are sure no other processes are using this 
profile, you can unlock the profile and relaunch NW.js.
[7606:7606:0712/102700.022185:ERROR:sandbox_linux.cc(376)] InitializeSandbox() 
called with multiple threads in process gpu-process.
[7606:7627:0712/102700.026162:ERROR:gbm_wrapper.cc(271)] Failed to export 
buffer to dma_buf: No such file or directory (2)



[7586:7586:0712/102715.345133:ERROR:browser_switcher_service.cc(238)] XXX Init()
[7646:7646:0712/102715.387891:FATAL:nw_content_renderer_hooks.cc(53)] Failed to 
load node library (error: libatomic.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No 
such file or directory)
#0 0x7f121d8c8909 (/home/jeffrey/Desktop/Tiddly 
Desktop/TiddlyDesktop_v0.0.14/lib/libnw.so+0x4635908)

[jeffrey@216-235-121-hcc-70:~] $'/home/jeffrey/Desktop/Tiddly 
Desktop/TiddlyDesktop_v0.0.14/nw' --help 
No manual entry for nw
[jeffrey@216-235-121-hcc-70:~] $

[tw5] Re: JSONMangler and nested JSON

2020-07-12 Thread Joshua Fontany

I think you are almost there. One thing to keep in mind in Tiddlkywiki is 
the difference between "shorthand" Wikitext and "long form" Widgets.

{{Title##Index}} is "shorthand" Wikitest that is then rendered into the 
following by the TW core:
```
<$tiddler tiddler="Title">
  <$transclude tiddler=<> index="Index" />

```
As you can see, leaving out the first part, like so {{##Index}} would 
retain the value of the "current" <> variable and just use 
the <$transclude> widget to pull an Index. Similarly, if you leave out the 
"variable" parameter of a $list widget, it assumes you want to set the 
<> variable in each rendered tempalte. This is equivalent 
to your "each()" request. (Make sure to have an empty line after the 
opening <$list> tag if you want block fomatting.)

The next thing to note is that with JsonMangler you always want to use full 
paths to any nested data. Always consider the Tiddler as the object, and 
path from the root to the required data. Your list would look like so:
```
<$list filter="[tag[Facility]]">

<$set name="arrLength" filter="[indexes[/Actions]count[]]">
Facility Array Length: <>
<$list variable="arrItemPath" 
filter="[indexes[/Actions]addprefix[/Actions]]" >

<>:  <$transclude tiddler=<> 
index=<> />
 

```

Best,
Joshua Fontany
On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 7:11:12 AM UTC-7 Werner wrote:

> Hi Joshua,
>
> thanks so much for your answer. This has taken me a lot further.
>
> But, reconsidering my original question, I found, that, maybe, I got stuck 
> too much in the procedural paradigm, and a more elegant approach would be, 
> if one could could use each[] for looping through a JSON array. Taking your 
> example this should look something like:
>
> <$list filter="[[MyJson]indexes[/path/to/array]each[]]">
> {{##FieldFromJsonArray}}
> 
>
> I tried to do it, but didn't succeed. I understand that each[] expects a 
> list separated with spaces, so my assumption would be that this does not 
> work unless an overloaded version of each[] is provided. OTOH, I found an 
> undocumented function ForEach[] in JSONMANGLER. Any clue?
>
> I created three JSON test tiddlers. One with a nested array of 4 elements 
> and another with 3 and a third one with a one-element array. I looped 
> through them like this
>
> <$list filter="[tag[Facility]]">
> ...
> <$set name="arrLength" filter="[indexes[/Actions]count[]]">
> Array Length: <>
>  
> 
>
> and was able to display all fields and the array fields as JSON text. 
> Strangely, the arrLength variable displayed a value of 4 for all three 
> tiddlers. No idea why. Will have to dive deeper into it.
>
> Thanks again
> Werner
>
>
>
> Am Samstag, 11. Juli 2020 21:24:07 UTC+2 schrieb Joshua Fontany:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Great to see people experimenting with my tools. 
>>
>> Two things to note. 1) 0-index based arrays can always have a new object 
>> written to an index equal to the length of the array. Example, "[0,1,2]", I 
>> can push "3" to {{MyJson##3}}, and it will be "[0,1,2,3]". Neat trick. 2) 
>> You can count an array's length using filters as long as you know the 
>> position of the array within the nexted JSON structure, like so:
>> ```
>> <$var name="arrLength" filter="[[MyJson]indexes[/path/to/array]count[]]">
>> Array Length: <>
>>   
>> ```
>>
>> Combine the two techniques like so (note the final slash on the new path 
>> gets added on as a prefix before adding the path to the array):
>> ```
>> <$var name="arrLength" filter="[[MyJson]indexes[/path/to/array]count[]]">
>> <$var name="newIndex" 
>> filter="[addprefix[/]addprefix[/path/to/array]]">  
>> <$button setTitle="MyJson" setIndex=<> setTo="New Data" />
>> 
>>  
>> ``` 
>> You could use the form `setTo={{New Data Tiddler}}` to grab the new data 
>> from the text-field of the "New Data Tiddler", etc, etc.
>>
>> Best,
>> Joshua Fontany
>> On Friday, July 10, 2020 at 1:14:52 AM UTC-7 Werner wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tony,
>>>
>>> thanks for taking your time and your extensive reply. Perhaps I've made 
>>> it too complicated. Ok, I try to reformulate it. Disclaimer also: I work in 
>>> a corporate environment, so I'm not completely free in the tools I am 
>>> allowed to use (to my surprise, Node.js is ok - ye!) and how much 
>>> information I can disclose.
>>>
>>> Let's put it that way: I have set up an internal information repository 
>>> which contains more or less textual information only so far. But now and 
>>> then, I would like to display some figures. And I would have to perform 
>>> some simple arithmetics with that figures (basically summing up).
>>>
>>> Let's call the things I am looking at "facilities". A "facility" should 
>>> be displayed in a templated tiddler, displaying textual and quantitative 
>>> information. Each "facility" can feature several "units" (that's the 1:n 
>>> relation), figures for which should also be displayed and/or shown as a 
>>> grand total. 
>>>
>>> The data for the facility/unit information should initially come from an 
>>> Excel table. For further use

[tw5] Re: How to stop "Draft of" pop when a new draft is created.

Before answering: Are you aware that this only shows if you have tiddlers 
that are saved as drafts? I mean, the usual thing to remedy it is to click 
that red thing to open the draft and then save the tiddler properly.

Or are you still, knowing this, asking how to block such red alerts?

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: How to stop "Draft of" pop when a new draft is created.

2020-07-12 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

I'm in the second category. I'll be editing two or more tiddlers at a time, 
needing to copy information back and forth. The little draft flags block 
the visibility when using the Vim search box.  So I'd like to know if there 
is some way to suppress them. 

On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 4:32:06 PM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>
> Before answering: Are you aware that this only shows if you have tiddlers 
> that are saved as drafts? I mean, the usual thing to remedy it is to click 
> that red thing to open the draft and then save the tiddler properly.
>
> Or are you still, knowing this, asking how to block such red alerts?
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: 360 panorama galleries and tours in Tiddlywiki

Folks

With 360 degree mentioned in this thread, I just though I would share this, 
I fell upon this device, I knew nothing about until recently;
the INSTA360 One X

What I found most interesting was not the production of a single 360x360 
image, or even a 360 video but the in phone post production on videos to 
produce a standard format video. Basically you place the camera in a 
particular location, let the event occur you are filming, and later choose 
what view point is taken. The recording is aware of the position so you can 
throw the camera in the air and while it tumbles around the recorded video 
is stable.

This may be a boost to 360 video that it needed.


   - It would also allow one camera recording of two or more people and 
   again edit after the event, choosing who the camera or in this case the 
   video is pointing at after the event, and according to the content.
   - With long self sticks you can actually have the stick removed from the 
   image and the result can look like a drone
   - Whilst I recently obtained a gimble DJI osmo mobile 3 for stability 
   and a lot of other features 360 video's stand to make the hardware all but 
   obsolete in the long run.

Very interesting area to explore.

Regards
TW Tones




On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 6:31:14 PM UTC+10, oleghbond wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> there are scarce examples on the topic "*360 panorama galleries and tours 
> in Tiddlywiki*". I actually found the only one:
>
>- https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/AOWugx5hZ9k 
>
> The given example is impressive, however, it is limited to a single 
> panoramic shot having fixed name "panorama.jpg". Neither gallery, nor 
> transitions between shots for the tour making.
>
> At the same time there are plenty of JS plugins/libraries in Internet 
> covering this topic.
>
> Does somebody of the TW community has notion regarding how some of these 
> JS plugins/libraries can be implemented in Tiddlywiki?
>
> I believe it is another promising niche for Tiddlywiki use.
>
> Olegh
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyDesktop exits w/ error on Fedora 30

Jeffery,

I do not have that platform and can do little to help, however given the 
message I would consider checking your desktop startup process is not 
launching nw.exe, and rebooting because it looks as if the problem is 
multiple instances. Or do you have another device trying to access the same 
node session?

I think you could provide a little more detail around your setup for people 
to help you. Is it the first time?, did this happen later etc...

Best of luck
Tony

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 4:00:10 AM UTC+10, Jeffrey wrote:
>
> Hi, TiddlyDesktop exits with an error. Terminal output attached. Error 
> that starts with 7606 repeated numerous times. thanks
>

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[tw5] Re: Autoscroll in TW

2020-07-12 Thread Eric Shulman

On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 11:10:34 AM UTC-7, Adithya B M wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the work. Superb stuff!
>

Thanks.

> Some feedback:
> 1) In the latest version, the width of the content in autoscroll tiddlers 
> is reduced in my TW (is it because of the new "scrollContent"/"scrollframe" 
> container?). I see its not the case in your demo TW. I wonder why...
> 2) Also, could we do without adding a white background to the autoscroll 
> tiddlers? I have a black themed TW, so i generally remove it manually.
>

Both of the above issues are most likely related to the "scrollframe" 
styles.
To address your customization needs for your black theme, I've refactored 
the style handling.
There is now one more tiddler in the package: 
TiddlyTools/AutoScroll/FrameStyles
which contains just the CSS declarations used for the scrollframe.  The 
default contents of this tiddler is:
border:1px solid; padding:1em; background:#ffe;
which gives a nice light yellow-ish colored background.

If you edit this tiddler, you can change the styles to suit your 
preferences.

You can also just delete that tiddler entirely, and the AutoScroll display
will have no border or padding or background color, allowing your
tiddler text/background colors to show up as you want.

Note: I also removed the "gray background when paused" style, since its
visually obvious when the scrolling is paused (i.e., things stop moving!)

All of this is now fully documented in the posted file, here:
   http://TiddlyTools.com/autoscroll.html

enjoy,
-e

> Adithya
>
> On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 10:12:17 PM UTC+5:30, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>
>> Another update:
>>
>> * added handling for ENTER, SPACE, and ESCAPE to start, pause/resume, and 
>> stop auto-scrolling
>> * added documentation
>>
>> -e
>>
>

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[tw5] How to stop "Draft of" pop when a new draft is created.

2020-07-12 Thread Jeff W

Hey, is there a way that I can stop the: Draft of 'New Tiddler' by jbw, pop 
up from showing? See attached screen capture for the example. Thanks for 
any help! 

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[tw5] Re: Automatically create tiddlers from outside source

Fellow Siniy-kit just last week posted a method to pull data from Google 
Sheets. That's probably a good start even if I'd guess there are many steps 
after that if you want it from Keep.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: How to stop "Draft of" pop when a new draft is created.

2020-07-12 Thread Jeff W

Ha, yes, thanks for the heads up though. I understand that I can click the 
link (red box) or other means to find the draft tiddler. I have a setup 
where I'm using CouchDB to replicate DBs, and when a user creates a draft 
tiddler on one side (DB1), the red box shows up on the other side (remote 
DB2). When the DB1 tiddler is saved, the draft box still appears on DB2 
(until a browser refresh occurs).

I think just hiding the feature could solve the issue, but I'm open to 
other solutions as well. Thanks for helping.

On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 6:32:06 PM UTC-5, Mat wrote:
>
> Before answering: Are you aware that this only shows if you have tiddlers 
> that are saved as drafts? I mean, the usual thing to remedy it is to click 
> that red thing to open the draft and then save the tiddler properly.
>
> Or are you still, knowing this, asking how to block such red alerts?
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Automatically create tiddlers from outside source

LG,

There are plenty of almost what you ask solutions, but as far as I can see 
true consumption of external content is still at the bleeding edge. Joshua 
is discussing something like this in the dev group here 

An existing method if the site allows is an iframe containing the source 
and copy and paste/drag and drop into tiddlywiki.

Google keep allows export to a google document, but this is still a multi 
step process, which I use if I want to move a whole list to tiddlywiki.

Eventually I hope to replace keep with a tiddlywiki for this kind of 
reason. More control.

Regards
Tony

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 3:54:39 AM UTC+10, LG wrote:
>
> Is it possible to push updates to TW from outside sources which can create 
> a new toddler? I read that this might be possible with email.
>
> I like to write in Google Keep, but want to make sure my new note ends up 
> in TW too. It'd be great if I didn't have to manually copy it over.
>

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[tw5] Re: How to stop "Draft of" pop when a new draft is created.

Folks,

This draft of mechanisium was introduced in version 5.1.18

   - Added 
   

 persistent 
   indicators at the bottom of the window showing any hidden drafts
   - Added 
   

 current 
   username (if set) to the title of draft tiddlers, making them easier to 
   identify in multiuser scenarios

If you follow the first of the above added links you see the change details
title: $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/drafts
tags: $:/tags/PageTemplate

Removing the tag $:/tags/PageTemplate  from $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/drafts 
and reloading seems to stop them

What is important to note here is the drafts are less visible if you remove 
this
They only end up in this state if you use a method outside the tiddler to 
close it rather than using the tiddlers close button and committing the 
change.

Having these at the bottom and in red is a good thing because ideally you 
will not have any drafts in this state, so I would be thoughtful before 
removing this.

Regards
Tony




On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 8:04:20 AM UTC+10, Jeff W wrote:
>
> Hey, is there a way that I can stop the: Draft of 'New Tiddler' by jbw, 
> pop up from showing? See attached screen capture for the example. Thanks 
> for any help! 
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyDesktop exits w/ error on Fedora 30

Thanks Tony,

I don't know anything about nw but no .exe files in Linux. I did try it 
before & have rebooted but still the same error. What other information 
would be useful? I'm not familiar with nw.js but I see that it's apparently 
part of Chrome. 

On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 5:22:57 PM UTC-7, TW Tones wrote:
>
> Jeffery,
>
> I do not have that platform and can do little to help, however given the 
> message I would consider checking your desktop startup process is not 
> launching nw.exe, and rebooting because it looks as if the problem is 
> multiple instances. Or do you have another device trying to access the same 
> node session?
>
> I think you could provide a little more detail around your setup for 
> people to help you. Is it the first time?, did this happen later etc...
>
> Best of luck
> Tony
>
>
> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 4:00:10 AM UTC+10, Jeffrey wrote:
>>
>> Hi, TiddlyDesktop exits with an error. Terminal output attached. Error 
>> that starts with 7606 repeated numerous times. thanks
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: How to stop "Draft of" pop when a new draft is created.

2020-07-12 Thread Jeff W

Thanks, I understand the risk. I can also use the More sidebar to find 
drafts.

The suggested solution works! Thanks so much for helping and the quick 
responses.

On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 8:28:26 PM UTC-5, TW Tones wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> This draft of mechanisium was introduced in version 5.1.18
>
>- Added 
>
> 
>  persistent 
>indicators at the bottom of the window showing any hidden drafts
>- Added 
>
> 
>  current 
>username (if set) to the title of draft tiddlers, making them easier to 
>identify in multiuser scenarios
>
> If you follow the first of the above added links you see the change details
> title: $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/drafts
> tags: $:/tags/PageTemplate
>
> Removing the tag $:/tags/PageTemplate  from $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/drafts 
> and reloading seems to stop them
>
> What is important to note here is the drafts are less visible if you 
> remove this
> They only end up in this state if you use a method outside the tiddler to 
> close it rather than using the tiddlers close button and committing the 
> change.
>
> Having these at the bottom and in red is a good thing because ideally you 
> will not have any drafts in this state, so I would be thoughtful before 
> removing this.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 8:04:20 AM UTC+10, Jeff W wrote:
>>
>> Hey, is there a way that I can stop the: Draft of 'New Tiddler' by jbw, 
>> pop up from showing? See attached screen capture for the example. Thanks 
>> for any help! 
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyDesktop exits w/ error on Fedora 30

I downloaded & attempted to run nwjs-v0.46.4-linux-x64
Got the errors in the attached file. 

On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 6:51:50 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey wrote:
>
> I rebooted & tried again. Attached is terminal output with errors. 
>
>
>
> On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 6:35:35 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Tony,
>>
>> I don't know anything about nw but no .exe files in Linux. I did try it 
>> before & have rebooted but still the same error. What other information 
>> would be useful? I'm not familiar with nw.js but I see that it's apparently 
>> part of Chrome. 
>>
>> On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 5:22:57 PM UTC-7, TW Tones wrote:
>>>
>>> Jeffery,
>>>
>>> I do not have that platform and can do little to help, however given the 
>>> message I would consider checking your desktop startup process is not 
>>> launching nw.exe, and rebooting because it looks as if the problem is 
>>> multiple instances. Or do you have another device trying to access the same 
>>> node session?
>>>
>>> I think you could provide a little more detail around your setup for 
>>> people to help you. Is it the first time?, did this happen later etc...
>>>
>>> Best of luck
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 4:00:10 AM UTC+10, Jeffrey wrote:

 Hi, TiddlyDesktop exits with an error. Terminal output attached. Error 
 that starts with 7606 repeated numerous times. thanks

>>>

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$/home/jeffrey/Desktop/nwjs-v0.46.4-linux-x64/nw 
Gtk-Message: 19:10:38.786: Failed to load module "appmenu-gtk-module"
[5241:5241:0712/191038.860145:ERROR:component_loader.cc(169)] Failed to parse 
extension manifest.
[5280:5280:0712/191038.952267:FATAL:nw_content_renderer_hooks.cc(53)] Failed to 
load node library (error: libatomic.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No 
such file or directory)
#0 0x7fb98c122379 
(/home/jeffrey/Desktop/nwjs-v0.46.4-linux-x64/lib/libnw.so+0x45c8378)

[5264:5264:0712/191039.100410:ERROR:sandbox_linux.cc(376)] InitializeSandbox() 
called with multiple threads in process gpu-process.
[5264:5291:0712/191039.104452:ERROR:gbm_wrapper.cc(271)] Failed to export 
buffer to dma_buf: No such file or directory (2)

(repeats about 25 times)

$

[tw5] Re: Automatically create tiddlers from outside source

2020-07-12 Thread Lin Onetwo

There is Pull and Push:

For Pull, I have already pull Google Calendar to TW: 
https://onetwo.ren/wiki/#%E5%AF%BC%E5%85%A5GoogleCalendar%E7%9A%84%E6%8C%89%E9%92%AE

For Push, I'm using nodejs TW so I sync it to Github,
so I can just use Github API to append *.tid or *.txt with *.txt.meta file 
to Github repo,
use for example https://github.com/webclipper/web-clipper (but it is still 
implementing "save to github" feature)
Then I can git pull and get updated content in my local nodejs TW that has 
Bob plugin installed.


LinOnetwo
在2020年7月13日星期一 UTC+8 上午9:16:20 写道：

> LG,
>
> There are plenty of almost what you ask solutions, but as far as I can see 
> true consumption of external content is still at the bleeding edge. Joshua 
> is discussing something like this in the dev group here 
> 
>
> An existing method if the site allows is an iframe containing the source 
> and copy and paste/drag and drop into tiddlywiki.
>
> Google keep allows export to a google document, but this is still a multi 
> step process, which I use if I want to move a whole list to tiddlywiki.
>
> Eventually I hope to replace keep with a tiddlywiki for this kind of 
> reason. More control.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 3:54:39 AM UTC+10, LG wrote:
>>
>> Is it possible to push updates to TW from outside sources which can 
>> create a new toddler? I read that this might be possible with email.
>>
>> I like to write in Google Keep, but want to make sure my new note ends up 
>> in TW too. It'd be great if I didn't have to manually copy it over.
>>
>

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