[U2] How do I get the U2 Metadata Manager to work

2013-06-06 Thread Mecki Foerthmann
Ever since we finally upgraded UniData at work I have been trying out 
the new tools and don't seem to have much fun with them.

The best one is XAdmin and I use it a lot these days.

IMHO the interface is a bit crude and clunky, but I guess that's Eclipse 
and you can't do much about that.
The BDT is not of much use since I need to make tweaks of the program 
using AE (even if it only to make PRC work) but when I then open it 
again in BDT it reverts to the old version. Looks like it keeps that in 
memory on my PC so any changes made on the server are lost.
Looks nice and shiny but the syntax check isn't really working either. 
99% of the errors shown turn out to be no errors at all.


The latest one I tried is the Metadata Manager.
It installed fine and I can connect to the server and the database no 
problem.
I can see the files and the dictionaries and can even change data on the 
server but that's it.
The metadata tools I want to use are all greyed out, so what am I doing 
wrong?


As stated in the Help I ran MIGRATE.SQL on the server but all I achieved 
is that I now cannot change anything using the old Avante Batch Schema 
Generation process. It goes through the motions but just hangs up at the 
end now.


So at the end I am not overly impressed.
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Re: [U2] How do I get the U2 Metadata Manager to work

2013-06-06 Thread Daniel McGrath
Hi Mecki, have you reported this to support?

Glad to hear you are using XAdmin a lot and we would be interested to get any 
reproducible cases of where BDT break (false positives on errors especially). 
There is documentation for U2 Metadata Manager built in to the tool, but if you 
cannot work out intuitively how to get things to work, that is also an issue we 
want to solve. Just send us the steps you followed, along with what you were 
trying to acheieve and what either didn't work or wasn't available. We are 
working on a UX project internally, so the more information and stories about 
where we fall down, the better.

Cheers,
Dan


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Subject: [U2] How do I get the U2 Metadata Manager to work

Ever since we finally upgraded UniData at work I have been trying out the new 
tools and don't seem to have much fun with them.
The best one is XAdmin and I use it a lot these days.

IMHO the interface is a bit crude and clunky, but I guess that's Eclipse and 
you can't do much about that.
The BDT is not of much use since I need to make tweaks of the program using AE 
(even if it only to make PRC work) but when I then open it again in BDT it 
reverts to the old version. Looks like it keeps that in memory on my PC so any 
changes made on the server are lost.
Looks nice and shiny but the syntax check isn't really working either. 
99% of the errors shown turn out to be no errors at all.

The latest one I tried is the Metadata Manager.
It installed fine and I can connect to the server and the database no problem.
I can see the files and the dictionaries and can even change data on the server 
but that's it.
The metadata tools I want to use are all greyed out, so what am I doing wrong?

As stated in the Help I ran MIGRATE.SQL on the server but all I achieved is 
that I now cannot change anything using the old Avante Batch Schema Generation 
process. It goes through the motions but just hangs up at the end now.

So at the end I am not overly impressed.
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Re: [U2] How do I get the U2 Metadata Manager to work

2013-06-06 Thread Tom Whitmore
Hi Mecki,

One think that I always do with BDT is right-click on the program, select 
refresh, then open the program.  That seems to be the only way to make sure I 
have the current version.

Currently, BDT is sort of working with PRC but it isn't honoring file 
ownership so I'm unable to let the programmers use BDT.  You do need to get 
some programs from Susan for things to work as I have it now.  I'm told the 
latest version of PRC supports BDT.  We are currently testing the new version 
of PRC but I haven't had an opportunity to try BDT on this version.. 

As far as false errors, the latest version of BDT is greatly improved.  
However, I have noticed couple of false errors:
1) if the numeric subroutine label does not have a : BDT doesn't recognize 
the label (like 99*).
2) LOCATE(J,ORIG.PH,2;XXXPOS) THEN FOUND=1 ELSE FOUND=0 , BDT will report that 
XXXPOS was never assigned a value.  There are other instances of this type of 
problem.

One thing I wish I could do is edit records in hashed files, but I don't see 
how to accomplish this.

Tom Whitmore
RATEX Business Solutions

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Subject: [U2] How do I get the U2 Metadata Manager to work

Ever since we finally upgraded UniData at work I have been trying out the new 
tools and don't seem to have much fun with them.
The best one is XAdmin and I use it a lot these days.

IMHO the interface is a bit crude and clunky, but I guess that's Eclipse and 
you can't do much about that.
The BDT is not of much use since I need to make tweaks of the program using AE 
(even if it only to make PRC work) but when I then open it again in BDT it 
reverts to the old version. Looks like it keeps that in memory on my PC so any 
changes made on the server are lost.
Looks nice and shiny but the syntax check isn't really working either. 
99% of the errors shown turn out to be no errors at all.

The latest one I tried is the Metadata Manager.
It installed fine and I can connect to the server and the database no problem.
I can see the files and the dictionaries and can even change data on the server 
but that's it.
The metadata tools I want to use are all greyed out, so what am I doing wrong?

As stated in the Help I ran MIGRATE.SQL on the server but all I achieved is 
that I now cannot change anything using the old Avante Batch Schema Generation 
process. It goes through the motions but just hangs up at the end now.

So at the end I am not overly impressed.
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[U2] How do I get the U2 Metadata Manager to work

2013-06-06 Thread Susan Joslyn
Mecki,
Just as an aside to your main point here... BDT can be PRC-enabled.  Email
me!
Susan
sjos...@sjplus.com

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Ever since we finally upgraded UniData at work I have been trying out 
the new tools and don't seem to have much fun with them.
The best one is XAdmin and I use it a lot these days.

IMHO the interface is a bit crude and clunky, but I guess that's Eclipse 
and you can't do much about that.
The BDT is not of much use since I need to make tweaks of the program 
using AE (even if it only to make PRC work) but when I then open it 
again in BDT it reverts to the old version. Looks like it keeps that in 
memory on my PC so any changes made on the server are lost.
Looks nice and shiny but the syntax check isn't really working either. 
99% of the errors shown turn out to be no errors at all.

The latest one I tried is the Metadata Manager.
It installed fine and I can connect to the server and the database no 
problem.
I can see the files and the dictionaries and can even change data on the 
server but that's it.
The metadata tools I want to use are all greyed out, so what am I doing 
wrong?

As stated in the Help I ran MIGRATE.SQL on the server but all I achieved 
is that I now cannot change anything using the old Avante Batch Schema 
Generation process. It goes through the motions but just hangs up at the 
end now.

So at the end I am not overly impressed.

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Re: [U2] How do I get the U2 Metadata Manager to work

2013-06-06 Thread Mecki Foerthmann

I'll keep that refresh option in mind.
Still a hassle and I would prefer if they would just get rid of that 
'feature'.
I also noticed that unassigned variable error that pops up for all 
functions including CALL that return a new variable.
Some people may regard assigning a value before you use a function as 
good coding standard, I don't see the point, though.
I haven't tried this in anger, but I recall that BDT treats all files as 
data files and you can edit data as well.
Maybe this is a feature they could add to keep Dict files and hashed 
files separate so you don't have to look for the BP within 1000 data 
files every time.


I have been using an external editor (mv developer) for several years now.
I always save the program to disk, open it with ED, add a blank line 
somewhere and file it with FIBC.

That takes care of PRC.
Locking works when you open a program externally, so the only chance 
that someone could snatch the program ab incorporate it into another 
project is in that short period between saving in the external editor 
and opening it with ED on the UD server for the first time.
Since I am the only UD programmer in the company it is virtually 
impossible that will ever happen.

Well, and as long as you have OS.ED you can bypass PRC anyway.
OK, if you NEVER EVER fix data with ED then you could probably remove 
it, but who would voluntarily block the only fire escape?


We have a really old version of PRC (3.9) and I can't make a business 
case to invest in new software.

There are other tools like mv.SSIS that I'd rather get first.
Especially since tools like Rocket's Metadata Manager don't seem to work 
or I am too stupid to install them properly.
I managed to get at least VSG to work on one SQL Server 2008 box, but 
that is a really primitive tool and I hate it.


And I am still looking for a way to read data from a relational database 
in a Basic program.



On 06/06/2013 18:30, Tom Whitmore wrote:

Hi Mecki,

One think that I always do with BDT is right-click on the program, select 
refresh, then open the program.  That seems to be the only way to make sure I 
have the current version.

Currently, BDT is sort of working with PRC but it isn't honoring file 
ownership so I'm unable to let the programmers use BDT.  You do need to get some 
programs from Susan for things to work as I have it now.  I'm told the latest version of 
PRC supports BDT.  We are currently testing the new version of PRC but I haven't had an 
opportunity to try BDT on this version..

As far as false errors, the latest version of BDT is greatly improved.  
However, I have noticed couple of false errors:
1) if the numeric subroutine label does not have a : BDT doesn't recognize 
the label (like 99*).
2) LOCATE(J,ORIG.PH,2;XXXPOS) THEN FOUND=1 ELSE FOUND=0 , BDT will report that 
XXXPOS was never assigned a value.  There are other instances of this type of 
problem.

One thing I wish I could do is edit records in hashed files, but I don't see 
how to accomplish this.

Tom Whitmore
RATEX Business Solutions

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Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 12:06 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: [U2] How do I get the U2 Metadata Manager to work

Ever since we finally upgraded UniData at work I have been trying out the new 
tools and don't seem to have much fun with them.
The best one is XAdmin and I use it a lot these days.

IMHO the interface is a bit crude and clunky, but I guess that's Eclipse and 
you can't do much about that.
The BDT is not of much use since I need to make tweaks of the program using AE 
(even if it only to make PRC work) but when I then open it again in BDT it 
reverts to the old version. Looks like it keeps that in memory on my PC so any 
changes made on the server are lost.
Looks nice and shiny but the syntax check isn't really working either.
99% of the errors shown turn out to be no errors at all.

The latest one I tried is the Metadata Manager.
It installed fine and I can connect to the server and the database no problem.
I can see the files and the dictionaries and can even change data on the server 
but that's it.
The metadata tools I want to use are all greyed out, so what am I doing wrong?

As stated in the Help I ran MIGRATE.SQL on the server but all I achieved is 
that I now cannot change anything using the old Avante Batch Schema Generation 
process. It goes through the motions but just hangs up at the end now.

So at the end I am not overly impressed.
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Re: [U2] How do I get the U2 Metadata Manager to work

2013-06-06 Thread Daniel McGrath
Hi Mecki,

It sounds like you are running a old copy of BDT. Unassigned variable warnings 
from CALL statements was fixed sometime last year. Follow the instructions here 
(http://updates.rocketsoftware.com/u2/) to make sure you have the latest 
versions. I can't recall which version, but if you are on too old of a release, 
that update site won't work for you, so you would have to download the full 
version again before you can use it. The latest full package is MAR2013.

Regards,
Dan

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Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 1:22 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] How do I get the U2 Metadata Manager to work

I'll keep that refresh option in mind.
Still a hassle and I would prefer if they would just get rid of that 'feature'.
I also noticed that unassigned variable error that pops up for all functions 
including CALL that return a new variable.
Some people may regard assigning a value before you use a function as good 
coding standard, I don't see the point, though.
I haven't tried this in anger, but I recall that BDT treats all files as data 
files and you can edit data as well.
Maybe this is a feature they could add to keep Dict files and hashed files 
separate so you don't have to look for the BP within 1000 data files every time.

I have been using an external editor (mv developer) for several years now.
I always save the program to disk, open it with ED, add a blank line somewhere 
and file it with FIBC.
That takes care of PRC.
Locking works when you open a program externally, so the only chance that 
someone could snatch the program ab incorporate it into another project is in 
that short period between saving in the external editor and opening it with ED 
on the UD server for the first time.
Since I am the only UD programmer in the company it is virtually impossible 
that will ever happen.
Well, and as long as you have OS.ED you can bypass PRC anyway.
OK, if you NEVER EVER fix data with ED then you could probably remove it, but 
who would voluntarily block the only fire escape?

We have a really old version of PRC (3.9) and I can't make a business case to 
invest in new software.
There are other tools like mv.SSIS that I'd rather get first.
Especially since tools like Rocket's Metadata Manager don't seem to work or I 
am too stupid to install them properly.
I managed to get at least VSG to work on one SQL Server 2008 box, but that is a 
really primitive tool and I hate it.

And I am still looking for a way to read data from a relational database in a 
Basic program.


On 06/06/2013 18:30, Tom Whitmore wrote:
 Hi Mecki,

 One think that I always do with BDT is right-click on the program, select 
 refresh, then open the program.  That seems to be the only way to make sure I 
 have the current version.

 Currently, BDT is sort of working with PRC but it isn't honoring file 
 ownership so I'm unable to let the programmers use BDT.  You do need to get 
 some programs from Susan for things to work as I have it now.  I'm told the 
 latest version of PRC supports BDT.  We are currently testing the new version 
 of PRC but I haven't had an opportunity to try BDT on this version..

 As far as false errors, the latest version of BDT is greatly improved.  
 However, I have noticed couple of false errors:
 1) if the numeric subroutine label does not have a : BDT doesn't recognize 
 the label (like 99*).
 2) LOCATE(J,ORIG.PH,2;XXXPOS) THEN FOUND=1 ELSE FOUND=0 , BDT will report 
 that XXXPOS was never assigned a value.  There are other instances of this 
 type of problem.

 One thing I wish I could do is edit records in hashed files, but I don't see 
 how to accomplish this.

 Tom Whitmore
 RATEX Business Solutions

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 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mecki Foerthmann
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 12:06 PM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: [U2] How do I get the U2 Metadata Manager to work

 Ever since we finally upgraded UniData at work I have been trying out the new 
 tools and don't seem to have much fun with them.
 The best one is XAdmin and I use it a lot these days.

 IMHO the interface is a bit crude and clunky, but I guess that's Eclipse and 
 you can't do much about that.
 The BDT is not of much use since I need to make tweaks of the program using 
 AE (even if it only to make PRC work) but when I then open it again in BDT it 
 reverts to the old version. Looks like it keeps that in memory on my PC so 
 any changes made on the server are lost.
 Looks nice and shiny but the syntax check isn't really working either.
 99% of the errors shown turn out to be no errors at all.

 The latest one I tried is the Metadata Manager.
 It installed fine and I can connect to the server and the database no problem.
 I can see the files and the dictionaries and can even change 

Re: [U2] How do I get the U2 Metadata Manager to work

2013-06-06 Thread D Averch
(Ad) XLr8Editor allows u to edit data, programs with out a refresh option, and 
any thing else.  With our continuous compile option, you only see the real 
compiler errors.  We have a before read option and and after write option to 
handle PRC.  However our editor works with Git, Svn, Team Foundation and 
others, so U2 can play in sandbox too.

Doug
U2logic.com/tools.html

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 6, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:

 Hi Mecki,
 
 It sounds like you are running a old copy of BDT. Unassigned variable 
 warnings from CALL statements was fixed sometime last year. Follow the 
 instructions here (http://updates.rocketsoftware.com/u2/) to make sure you 
 have the latest versions. I can't recall which version, but if you are on too 
 old of a release, that update site won't work for you, so you would have to 
 download the full version again before you can use it. The latest full 
 package is MAR2013.
 
 Regards,
 Dan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mecki Foerthmann
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 1:22 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] How do I get the U2 Metadata Manager to work
 
 I'll keep that refresh option in mind.
 Still a hassle and I would prefer if they would just get rid of that 
 'feature'.
 I also noticed that unassigned variable error that pops up for all functions 
 including CALL that return a new variable.
 Some people may regard assigning a value before you use a function as good 
 coding standard, I don't see the point, though.
 I haven't tried this in anger, but I recall that BDT treats all files as data 
 files and you can edit data as well.
 Maybe this is a feature they could add to keep Dict files and hashed files 
 separate so you don't have to look for the BP within 1000 data files every 
 time.
 
 I have been using an external editor (mv developer) for several years now.
 I always save the program to disk, open it with ED, add a blank line 
 somewhere and file it with FIBC.
 That takes care of PRC.
 Locking works when you open a program externally, so the only chance that 
 someone could snatch the program ab incorporate it into another project is in 
 that short period between saving in the external editor and opening it with 
 ED on the UD server for the first time.
 Since I am the only UD programmer in the company it is virtually impossible 
 that will ever happen.
 Well, and as long as you have OS.ED you can bypass PRC anyway.
 OK, if you NEVER EVER fix data with ED then you could probably remove it, but 
 who would voluntarily block the only fire escape?
 
 We have a really old version of PRC (3.9) and I can't make a business case to 
 invest in new software.
 There are other tools like mv.SSIS that I'd rather get first.
 Especially since tools like Rocket's Metadata Manager don't seem to work or I 
 am too stupid to install them properly.
 I managed to get at least VSG to work on one SQL Server 2008 box, but that is 
 a really primitive tool and I hate it.
 
 And I am still looking for a way to read data from a relational database in a 
 Basic program.
 
 
 On 06/06/2013 18:30, Tom Whitmore wrote:
 Hi Mecki,
 
 One think that I always do with BDT is right-click on the program, select 
 refresh, then open the program.  That seems to be the only way to make sure 
 I have the current version.
 
 Currently, BDT is sort of working with PRC but it isn't honoring file 
 ownership so I'm unable to let the programmers use BDT.  You do need to get 
 some programs from Susan for things to work as I have it now.  I'm told the 
 latest version of PRC supports BDT.  We are currently testing the new 
 version of PRC but I haven't had an opportunity to try BDT on this version..
 
 As far as false errors, the latest version of BDT is greatly improved.  
 However, I have noticed couple of false errors:
 1) if the numeric subroutine label does not have a : BDT doesn't recognize 
 the label (like 99*).
 2) LOCATE(J,ORIG.PH,2;XXXPOS) THEN FOUND=1 ELSE FOUND=0 , BDT will report 
 that XXXPOS was never assigned a value.  There are other instances of this 
 type of problem.
 
 One thing I wish I could do is edit records in hashed files, but I don't see 
 how to accomplish this.
 
 Tom Whitmore
 RATEX Business Solutions
 
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 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mecki Foerthmann
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 12:06 PM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: [U2] How do I get the U2 Metadata Manager to work
 
 Ever since we finally upgraded UniData at work I have been trying out the 
 new tools and don't seem to have much fun with them.
 The best one is XAdmin and I use it a lot these days.
 
 IMHO the interface is a bit crude and clunky, but I guess that's Eclipse and 
 you can't do much about that.
 The BDT is not of much use since I need to make 

[U2] Signature Capture and use

2013-06-06 Thread Oaks, Harold
I'm sure some of you are implementing signature pad capture to a
Universe system.  What are you using and doing?
I'd like to look into adding that feature to our jail system.

Thanks-
Harold Oaks
Clark County, WA

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Re: [U2] How do I get the U2 Metadata Manager to work

2013-06-06 Thread Mecki Foerthmann
I downloaded the March 2013 client tools today and will hopefully be 
able to install them tomorrow or early next week.

So yes, my version of BDT is March 2012 IIRC.

The Metadata Manager is March 13, though.
I just ran the install with the default options, clicked on the program 
and selected the server already set up with UCI.
This worked just fine with Xadmin and BDT and as I said before MDM also 
connects fine and displays all the UD accounts and files.

But when I right click on a file all the MDM options are greyed out.
All I can do is open the dictionary and maintain that.

And what about my suggestion at the last U2U to make XAdmin use sudo so 
you can use all functions without having to log on as root?
You may be allowed to log on as root on your test systems but my sys 
admin doesn't give anyone the root password for the production server.


Cheers

Mecki


On 06/06/2013 20:35, Daniel McGrath wrote:

Hi Mecki,

It sounds like you are running a old copy of BDT. Unassigned variable warnings 
from CALL statements was fixed sometime last year. Follow the instructions here 
(http://updates.rocketsoftware.com/u2/) to make sure you have the latest 
versions. I can't recall which version, but if you are on too old of a release, 
that update site won't work for you, so you would have to download the full 
version again before you can use it. The latest full package is MAR2013.

Regards,
Dan

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mecki Foerthmann
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 1:22 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] How do I get the U2 Metadata Manager to work

I'll keep that refresh option in mind.
Still a hassle and I would prefer if they would just get rid of that 'feature'.
I also noticed that unassigned variable error that pops up for all functions 
including CALL that return a new variable.
Some people may regard assigning a value before you use a function as good 
coding standard, I don't see the point, though.
I haven't tried this in anger, but I recall that BDT treats all files as data 
files and you can edit data as well.
Maybe this is a feature they could add to keep Dict files and hashed files 
separate so you don't have to look for the BP within 1000 data files every time.

I have been using an external editor (mv developer) for several years now.
I always save the program to disk, open it with ED, add a blank line somewhere 
and file it with FIBC.
That takes care of PRC.
Locking works when you open a program externally, so the only chance that 
someone could snatch the program ab incorporate it into another project is in 
that short period between saving in the external editor and opening it with ED 
on the UD server for the first time.
Since I am the only UD programmer in the company it is virtually impossible 
that will ever happen.
Well, and as long as you have OS.ED you can bypass PRC anyway.
OK, if you NEVER EVER fix data with ED then you could probably remove it, but 
who would voluntarily block the only fire escape?

We have a really old version of PRC (3.9) and I can't make a business case to 
invest in new software.
There are other tools like mv.SSIS that I'd rather get first.
Especially since tools like Rocket's Metadata Manager don't seem to work or I 
am too stupid to install them properly.
I managed to get at least VSG to work on one SQL Server 2008 box, but that is a 
really primitive tool and I hate it.

And I am still looking for a way to read data from a relational database in a 
Basic program.


On 06/06/2013 18:30, Tom Whitmore wrote:

Hi Mecki,

One think that I always do with BDT is right-click on the program, select 
refresh, then open the program.  That seems to be the only way to make sure I 
have the current version.

Currently, BDT is sort of working with PRC but it isn't honoring file 
ownership so I'm unable to let the programmers use BDT.  You do need to get some 
programs from Susan for things to work as I have it now.  I'm told the latest version of 
PRC supports BDT.  We are currently testing the new version of PRC but I haven't had an 
opportunity to try BDT on this version..

As far as false errors, the latest version of BDT is greatly improved.  
However, I have noticed couple of false errors:
1) if the numeric subroutine label does not have a : BDT doesn't recognize 
the label (like 99*).
2) LOCATE(J,ORIG.PH,2;XXXPOS) THEN FOUND=1 ELSE FOUND=0 , BDT will report that 
XXXPOS was never assigned a value.  There are other instances of this type of 
problem.

One thing I wish I could do is edit records in hashed files, but I don't see 
how to accomplish this.

Tom Whitmore
RATEX Business Solutions

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Re: [U2] Signature Capture and use

2013-06-06 Thread Rex Gozar
I'm guessing you are not running a .net GUI frontend application.

We have signature pads connected to our telnet-based Universe system.

(a) We use AccuTerm to fire an exe on the client PC.
(b) The client exe is a .net program with manufacturer's dll's that
communicate with the signature pad.
(c) When the user OKs the signature, the client exe sends the
signature bytes to the application server via sockets, then exits.

We had tried to use network shares for (c) but they proved to be unreliable.

In a future version, I want to create a client exe with a socket
listener built-in and run it like a service. That way, the application
server can use a socket connection directly with the exe (instead of
firing off the exe via AccuTerm).  Theoretically, such an exe could be
used via javascript in a browser-based application too.

rex

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 I'm sure some of you are implementing signature pad capture to a
 Universe system.  What are you using and doing?
 I'd like to look into adding that feature to our jail system.

 Thanks-
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Re: [U2] Signature Capture and use

2013-06-06 Thread Tony Gravagno
Harold, I created a general-purpose solution for this a few years ago, 
documented on my blog. I'd be very happy to discuss it with you next week. (out 
of the office this week)
http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/2009/09/signatures01.html

Harold.Oaks wrote:

I'm sure some of you are implementing signature pad capture to a
Universe system.  What are you using and doing?
I'd like to look into adding that feature to our jail system.
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Re: [U2] Signature Capture and use

2013-06-06 Thread Oaks, Harold
Thanks Rex

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I'm guessing you are not running a .net GUI frontend application.

We have signature pads connected to our telnet-based Universe system.

(a) We use AccuTerm to fire an exe on the client PC.
(b) The client exe is a .net program with manufacturer's dll's that
communicate with the signature pad.
(c) When the user OKs the signature, the client exe sends the
signature bytes to the application server via sockets, then exits.

We had tried to use network shares for (c) but they proved to be
unreliable.

In a future version, I want to create a client exe with a socket
listener built-in and run it like a service. That way, the application
server can use a socket connection directly with the exe (instead of
firing off the exe via AccuTerm).  Theoretically, such an exe could be
used via javascript in a browser-based application too.

rex

On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Oaks, Harold harold.o...@clark.wa.gov
wrote:
 I'm sure some of you are implementing signature pad capture to a 
 Universe system.  What are you using and doing?
 I'd like to look into adding that feature to our jail system.

 Thanks-
 Harold Oaks
 Clark County, WA

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Re: [U2] Signature Capture and use

2013-06-06 Thread Robert Frailey

Link doesnt work


http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/2009/09/signatures01.html


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Harold, I created a general-purpose solution for this a few years ago, 
documented on my blog. I'd be very happy to discuss it with you next week. 
(out of the office this week)

http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/2009/09/signatures01.html

Harold.Oaks wrote:


I'm sure some of you are implementing signature pad capture to a
Universe system.  What are you using and doing?
I'd like to look into adding that feature to our jail system.

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Re: [U2] Signature Capture and use

2013-06-06 Thread Charlie Noah

Hi Robert,

Try this: http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/tech/2009/09/signatures01.html . I 
found it with a simple search for signature on Tony's site.


Regards,
Charlie

On 06-06-2013 4:52 PM, Robert Frailey wrote:

Link doesnt work


http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/2009/09/signatures01.html


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3xk547...@sneakemail.com

To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] Signature Capture and use


Harold, I created a general-purpose solution for this a few years 
ago, documented on my blog. I'd be very happy to discuss it with you 
next week. (out of the office this week)

http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/2009/09/signatures01.html

Harold.Oaks wrote:


I'm sure some of you are implementing signature pad capture to a
Universe system.  What are you using and doing?
I'd like to look into adding that feature to our jail system.

--
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Re: [U2] Signature Capture and use

2013-06-06 Thread Robert Frailey

thanks
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Hi Robert,

Try this: http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/tech/2009/09/signatures01.html . I 
found it with a simple search for signature on Tony's site.


Regards,
Charlie

On 06-06-2013 4:52 PM, Robert Frailey wrote:

Link doesnt work


http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/2009/09/signatures01.html


- Original Message - From: Tony Gravagno 
3xk547...@sneakemail.com

To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] Signature Capture and use


Harold, I created a general-purpose solution for this a few years 
ago, documented on my blog. I'd be very happy to discuss it with you 
next week. (out of the office this week)

http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/2009/09/signatures01.html

Harold.Oaks wrote:


I'm sure some of you are implementing signature pad capture to a
Universe system.  What are you using and doing?
I'd like to look into adding that feature to our jail system.

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Re: [U2] Signature Capture and use

2013-06-06 Thread Tony Gravagno
Indeed. Typed manually on my phone. Here is the correct link. Thanks.
 http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/tech/2009/09/signatures01.html

Robert Frailey wrote:

Link doesnt work

 http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/2009/09/signatures01.html

- Original Message - 
From: Tony Gravagno 


 Harold, I created a general-purpose solution for this a few years
ago, 
 documented on my blog. I'd be very happy to discuss it with you next
week. 
 (out of the office this week)
 http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/2009/09/signatures01.html

 Harold.Oaks wrote:

I'm sure some of you are implementing signature pad capture to a
Universe system.  What are you using and doing?
I'd like to look into adding that feature to our jail system.
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