I downloaded the March 2013 client tools today and will hopefully be
able to install them tomorrow or early next week.
So yes, my version of BDT is March 2012 IIRC.
The Metadata Manager is March 13, though.
I just ran the install with the default options, clicked on the program
and selected the server already set up with UCI.
This worked just fine with Xadmin and BDT and as I said before MDM also
connects fine and displays all the UD accounts and files.
But when I right click on a file all the MDM options are greyed out.
All I can do is open the dictionary and maintain that.
And what about my suggestion at the last U2U to make XAdmin use sudo so
you can use all functions without having to log on as root?
You may be allowed to log on as root on your test systems but my sys
admin doesn't give anyone the root password for the production server.
Cheers
Mecki
On 06/06/2013 20:35, Daniel McGrath wrote:
Hi Mecki,
It sounds like you are running a old copy of BDT. Unassigned variable warnings
from CALL statements was fixed sometime last year. Follow the instructions here
(http://updates.rocketsoftware.com/u2/) to make sure you have the latest
versions. I can't recall which version, but if you are on too old of a release,
that update site won't work for you, so you would have to download the full
version again before you can use it. The latest full package is MAR2013.
Regards,
Dan
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Subject: Re: [U2] How do I get the U2 Metadata Manager to work
I'll keep that refresh option in mind.
Still a hassle and I would prefer if they would just get rid of that 'feature'.
I also noticed that unassigned variable error that pops up for all functions
including CALL that return a new variable.
Some people may regard assigning a value before you use a function as good
coding standard, I don't see the point, though.
I haven't tried this in anger, but I recall that BDT treats all files as data
files and you can edit data as well.
Maybe this is a feature they could add to keep Dict files and hashed files
separate so you don't have to look for the BP within 1000 data files every time.
I have been using an external editor (mv developer) for several years now.
I always save the program to disk, open it with ED, add a blank line somewhere
and file it with FIBC.
That takes care of PRC.
Locking works when you open a program externally, so the only chance that
someone could snatch the program ab incorporate it into another project is in
that short period between saving in the external editor and opening it with ED
on the UD server for the first time.
Since I am the only UD programmer in the company it is virtually impossible
that will ever happen.
Well, and as long as you have OS.ED you can bypass PRC anyway.
OK, if you NEVER EVER fix data with ED then you could probably remove it, but
who would voluntarily block the only fire escape?
We have a really old version of PRC (3.9) and I can't make a business case to
invest in new software.
There are other tools like mv.SSIS that I'd rather get first.
Especially since tools like Rocket's Metadata Manager don't seem to work or I
am too stupid to install them properly.
I managed to get at least VSG to work on one SQL Server 2008 box, but that is a
really primitive tool and I hate it.
And I am still looking for a way to read data from a relational database in a
Basic program.
On 06/06/2013 18:30, Tom Whitmore wrote:
Hi Mecki,
One think that I always do with BDT is right-click on the program, select
refresh, then open the program. That seems to be the only way to make sure I
have the current version.
Currently, BDT is sort of working with PRC but it isn't honoring "file
ownership" so I'm unable to let the programmers use BDT. You do need to get some
programs from Susan for things to work as I have it now. I'm told the latest version of
PRC supports BDT. We are currently testing the new version of PRC but I haven't had an
opportunity to try BDT on this version..
As far as false errors, the latest version of BDT is greatly improved.
However, I have noticed couple of false errors:
1) if the numeric subroutine label does not have a ":" BDT doesn't recognize
the label (like 99*).
2) LOCATE(J,ORIG.PH,2;XXXPOS) THEN FOUND=1 ELSE FOUND=0 , BDT will report that
XXXPOS was never assigned a value. There are other instances of this type of
problem.
One thing I wish I could do is edit records in hashed files, but I don't see
how to accomplish this.
Tom Whitmore
RATEX Business Solutions
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Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 12:06 PM
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Subject: [U2] How do I get the U2 Metadata Manager to work
Ever since we finally upgraded UniData at work I have been trying out the new
tools and don't seem to have much fun with them.
The best one is XAdmin and I use it a lot these days.
IMHO the interface is a bit crude and clunky, but I guess that's Eclipse and
you can't do much about that.
The BDT is not of much use since I need to make tweaks of the program using AE
(even if it only to make PRC work) but when I then open it again in BDT it
reverts to the old version. Looks like it keeps that in memory on my PC so any
changes made on the server are lost.
Looks nice and shiny but the syntax check isn't really working either.
99% of the errors shown turn out to be no errors at all.
The latest one I tried is the Metadata Manager.
It installed fine and I can connect to the server and the database no problem.
I can see the files and the dictionaries and can even change data on the server
but that's it.
The metadata tools I want to use are all greyed out, so what am I doing wrong?
As stated in the Help I ran MIGRATE.SQL on the server but all I achieved is
that I now cannot change anything using the old Avante Batch Schema Generation
process. It goes through the motions but just hangs up at the end now.
So at the end I am not overly impressed.
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