Re: [videoblogging] Re: BikiniZero.com Tech News Bikini-Driven!

[Deirdre Straughan]

Hey, I did my bit: http://www.beginningwithi.com/tech/barcamproma.html

On 23 Mar 2007 18:09:51 -0700, Gena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   That what I'm talking about! Fairness! Balance. Like I said, I'm
> willing to negotiate. The beefcake in question don't have to be 100%
> skivvy free.
>
> 93.5% is good enough to start the conversation rolling.
>
> Thank you for seeing the humor and potential large and lucrative
> market opportunity of women folk who might not be into Pr0n but who
> would appreciate the aesthetics of a well developed yet intellectually
> sensual man who is properly exposed doing anything nice and slow.
>
> Or at least can stay up on the down stroke. To each his/her own. Peace
> and laughter,
>
> Gena
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com ,
> "filmanimationweb"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Gena
> > I wanted to re-dress your statements to make sure I understand the
> > bared meaning of your suggestiveness: I take it under my belt that you
> > would support the erection, by me, of a site to do with somewhat nude
> > - or, who are we kidding, quite nudaceous - beefcakes, delivering
> > their daily events in the form of of a beefcakey, newsy-type tech
> showing?
> > If that's the case, I wanted to satisfy you, that we are indeed
> > working ourselves up to such a fever; when bikinizero opens up into
> > having better legs under itself, we most definitely have the plan to
> > emit forth another show, called 'BeefcakeNews.com'; Our huge handling
> > of the bikini news must of course come first, as we are men and must
> > follow our prime instinctuals, and by that I mean doing women first in
> > bikinis, and after that we of course can fit in a man to deliver.
> > Just messing with you :)
> > We do in fact have plans to do a show called Beefcake news; we
> > need a few months of getting BikiniZero established and solid, and
> > then we can do one for the ladies! Thanks for your comments, you are
> > funny enough to be a BZ writer!
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com ,
> "Gena"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Jan, I don't want men in a bikini. I want the men folk naked! And
> > > when they have to demo a product I want men to wiggle in front of the
> > > camera just like the women folk seem to do.
> > >
> > > I don't object to the show. They certainly put a lot of time and
> > > effort into it. I just want parity. I want a dude with the muscally
> > > muscles to talk to me about the advantages of high speed SD cards. I
> > > want discussions about hard drives to go in a whole new direction.
> > >
> > > Oh, if he's got some meat on his thighs that's alright with me. And if
> > > he is a bear or bare with the hair I don't care. Fair is fair. When
> > > they make a point there should be a point that is visible to all.
> > >
> > > Now I am willing to be flexible. If they can find the right skimmy
> > > skimp for the guys to wear that would be acceptable. Stay away from
> > > plaid tho. It don't do it for me. I'd actually have to concentrate on
> > > what he was talking about.
> > >
> > > So if the folks at BikiniZero can see a way to be more gender
> > > inclusive, I will certainly do my part to spread the word.
> > >
> > > Gena
> > > http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com
> > > http://pcclibtech.blogspot.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com ,
> "Jan McLaughlin"
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Don't f'in' get me started.
> > > >
> > > > Aw crap. Here it comes...
> > > >
> > > > The lesson: women must take better / more directed advantage of
> > > silly men.
> > > > They are totally at our mercy.
> > > >
> > > > What is it we women really want?
> > > >
> > > > Why don't more women create these shows and make $ off 'em? I know
> > > there's a
> > > > reason. Can it be a good reason?
> > > >
> > > > Jan
> > > >
> > > > On 3/23/07, Adam Quirk, Wreck & Salvage  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you Taylor.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 3/23/07, filmanimationweb <24pfilms@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hey Adam,
> > > > > > I wanted to say we (BikiniZero) really like your show, great
> > > > > > writing...wanted to bid on your first run of ads, but I needed
> > > to feed
> > > > > > the crew ;) I think Drew won?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Taylor Moore
> > > > > > www.bikinizero.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In 
> > > > > > videoblogging@yahoogroups.com,
> "Adam Quirk, Wreck &
> > Salvage"
> > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I would subscribe if there was more penetration.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 3/22/07, filmanimationweb <24pfilms@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Gang,
> > > > > > > > Just wanted to post the link to our first episode of our
> > > weekly tech
> > > > > > > > show. We also have a contest for the best tech story of the
> > > month,
> > > > > so
> > > > > > > > enter to win a video ipod..
> > > > > > > > In addition to flash and QT we are using a cool full screen,
> > > high
> > > > > > > > quality video tran

[videoblogging] Re: Let's Help The Others, As We Used To, To Vlog

[Steve Watkins]

Cheers, although I dont actually think that stuff was a problem or
really a reflection of any problems the group may have. I spend so
much time here stating my opinions, that I cant really complain if
anybody else ever states an opinion about me.

I think its quite normal that people would maybe treat my opinions on
vlogging differently if I actually vlogged a lot and they could 'see
me' more. If I had ever had a sucessful web business then my opinions
on other businesses might be taken differently by some, etc etc. And I
can see why it might seem weird to spend so much time on a blogging
group and reading and whining my opinions, when Im not blogging,
vlogging or doing a business or even having all that much time to
watch video. 

Anyways, I have been someone who moaned here and there about elitism
or some other aspects of this group, but Ive also been fairly negative
about possible alternatives. For me the group is healthy if opinions
are diverse, so I wouldnt mind a few elitist comments here and there
as it would reflect the fact there must be someone somewher who holds
such views. Just so long as the whole group doesnt suffer from such
things. Same with clique stuff, I think there may have been some
tendencies towards this but it was never the whole group, it was
clumps of people or even just one person using wording that might have
sounded elitist, and maybe was or wasnt, it never usually got explored
in depth, possibly because the label 'elitist' sounds negative so not
many people think they are guilty of that.

Some of the things that might put newcomers off this group are
accidental or systemic, or chance. For example there are still threads
people post that never get responded to. If its someone like me
posting then it doesnt really matter because I post a lot, but a
lurker or newbie who posts and is then largely or completely
unresponded to, may suffer more as a consquence. Generally this isnt a
huge problem and someoneusually steps up to the plate, or if there is
silence then it may be for a good reason, or there is jsut too much
email, but thats the sort of thing I think could be improved on by
improving systems rather than it being a case of the wrong people
being here.

So I wouldnt suggest stating another group unless it had some things
at its core that would make it pretty fundamentally different to this
group. I dont know quite what this means in practice, but for example
if the conversations were mostly video then it would feel different.

I mean I wouldnt know if its possible to make the group either more or
less like it was in the past. Time has moved on, various people have
various reasons for not posting much to this group, their own personal
vlog voyage may have moved on. Also not everyone is as willing to
endlessly repeat themselves as I am, so once they've said everything
they could think to say here, and the honeymoon burst of initial
energy has worn off, things change. 

Also I suspect that over time various events, arguments, watershed
moments in this group, make some people wary of bringing up certain
subjects. The virtual presence of certain strong characters or
opinions can leave its mark. Over the years of being online, Ive
occasionally got paranoid in various communities (usually forums) ive
been in, that my words may be doing more harm than good, which leads
to me shutting up for months to see if its a better place without me.
And over the years in this group I have sometimes questioned m worth
which usually elicits enough replies to make me stick around, but then
I feel guilty about email traffic being generated arounf the topic of
me, when I dont really think theres anything very interesting to talk
about me, which is one of the many reasons Ive struggled to vlog. I
dont find my life to be all that interesting so I dont want to vlog
it. On the otherhand I clearly think enough of my own opinions to post
them endlessly on the web. 

As for this group or setting up other groups, you could compare here
to youtube in a funny sort of way. Both have the upper hand on upstart
rivals due to having enough users to create a sustained flow on
content, and both were created long enough ago that the broad topic of
videoblogging could be encompassed within one group/service. Now years
have passed and youtube and this group are the 'established players'
in their respective fields. Upstarts need to either find a niche or do
it so much better and get lucky/clever enough to gain a critical mass
of users. Or the established players decline over time until they are
devoured. 

If I miss anything, its lots of specific people who used to say more
here, and dont seem to say so much these days. But I dont know what it
would take to get those voices back, dont think there is a magic
formula or any one cause or person we can attribute to their relative
silence :(

Well that took ages to write and probably served no useful purpose,
oops. Im still hoping for alternative ways of this group evolving, 

[videoblogging] Re: Flashmeeting tonight

[Enric]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Loiez D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Who is Vlooser ?
> 
> I aml looking at the replay  ;-)
> http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/fmm.php?pwd=6e1604-7845
> 
> Amitiés
> Loiez
>

Are you on Twitter?

http://twitter.com/Cinegage

  -- Enric

Re: [videoblogging] Local TV Covers my Vlog

[groups-yahoo-com]

Wow, just wow.

First, Congrats again bill!

I wonder if you'll get more local viewers out of it?

Second... flash... not windows media player, not real player... I can
actually play it in my browser. Wow, we've come a long way in the last
two years. Now all they need is some sharing features like source and
a downloadable mp4 in their RSS feed so I can revlog it.

Third... wow again... it's actually not BAD... in fact I don't want to
go crazy but it's maybe even a good representation of vlogging.

BTW, what was with the washed out colors... that was just weird...
it's like the hole thing was digitized by putting a camera on the TV
screen. The macintosh video was completely white. :)

Finally, that hillary clinton video... I still haven't seen it... but
what's funny is that WASN'T just some vlogger... it was created and
then leaked by a PR guy at a major political PR firm that does work
for Obama among others.  It's a complete misrepresentation of
vlogging, but I just think it's funny. Mainstream media goes out to
report on vlogging and ends up reporting on their own echo chamber.
Are we even here?

-Mike
mmeiser.com/blog
mefeedia.com

On 3/24/07, Richard (Show) Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bill,
>
> This is really a nice news piece.
>
> Congratulations, and good luck with your bungalow
>
> ... Richard
>
> On 23 Mar 2007 05:02:47 -0700, Bill Streeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   Our local Fox afiliate did a story about my vlog and vlogging in
> > general last night. It's online now you can see it here:
> > http://tinyurl.com/yvwjhw
> >
> > Bill Streeter
> > LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
> > www.lofistl.com
> > www.billstreeter.net
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Richard
> http://richardhhall.org
> Shows
> http://richardshow.org
> http://inspiredhealing.tv
>
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Flashmeeting tonight

[Loiez D.]

Vwinner !
Le 24 mars 07 à 22:44, Enric a écrit :

> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Loiez D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Who is Vlooser ?
>
> PJK
>
> ;
>
> >
> > I aml looking at the replay ;-)
> > http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/fmm.php?pwd=6e1604-7845
> >
> > Amitiés
> > Loiez
> >
>
>
> 



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[videoblogging] Re: Flashmeeting tonight

[Enric]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Loiez D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Who is Vlooser ?

PJK

  ;

> 
> I aml looking at the replay  ;-)
> http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/fmm.php?pwd=6e1604-7845
> 
> Amitiés
> Loiez
>

[videoblogging] Flashmeeting tonight

[Loiez D.]

Who is Vlooser ?

I aml looking at the replay  ;-)
http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/fmm.php?pwd=6e1604-7845

Amitiés
Loiez

Re: [videoblogging] vlogweek '07 update

[Mike Meiser]

I think Josh means we've agreed on the tag, not the technoratti tag.

Many others will be tracking videoblogging week too. :)

The proper tag should be "videobloggingweek2007" just as it was
"videobloggingweek2006" the year before, and "videobloggingweek2005"
the year before that.

As for theme's I do like the seven deadly sins for seven (deadly) days
of videoblogging, but I also hope some people can come up with some
more creative ideas.

If I were to suggest a rally cry it would be "God save the
mainstream!" as in mainstream media. A parody of "god save the queen"
the most famous punk rock song ever.

I hope this page helps. I've started adding links to past
videoblogging week resources so you can look back at bast themes.
There were some good blogs in 2005 and 2006 covering the blow by blow
thanks to Steve G and others.

http://videobloggingweek.pbwiki.com/

Password is "videobloggingweek2007". Please help edit.

-Mike
mefeedia.com
mmeiser.com/blog

On 3/24/07, Devlon Duthie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Did I miss the discussion on depending on technorati this year for
> tracking our tags?
>
> -Devlon
>
>
>
> Josh Leo wrote:
> > Ok folks, we are one week away from Videobloggingweek2007
> >
> > I usually don't do themes for videoblogging week, but i know it helps
> other
> > people so lets knock out some ideas for themes adn then pick them. So far
> > all I have seriously heard was the 7 deadly sins
> >
> > we have agreed on the technorati tag, now we need to nail out some other
> > details.
> >
> > so what do we want videoblogging week to look like this year?
> >
> >
> >
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[videoblogging] Two New Vlogs from Grand Rapids, MI

[andydragt]

I'm just a vlogging newb but I've big plans!  a couple of weeks ago I
started a vlog called Developing Grand Rapids  
.  It's already become pretty popular with the local development
junkies.

Just today, I started a new vlog to chronicle the rehabilitation of the
house we just closed on yesterday.  It's called This Old GR House
 .  I've got a lot of work to do on this
house and I'm going to try to vlog a good bit of it.

Developing GR: http://developinggr.com
This Old GR House: http://developinggr.com/house/

I'd love to hear your feedback and comments.

Thanks to Josh Leo for discovering and encouraging my vlogging habits
early (like within a day of going live ;)


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Re: [videoblogging] vlogweek '07 update

[Devlon Duthie]

Did I miss the discussion on depending on technorati this year for 
tracking our tags?

-Devlon



Josh Leo wrote:
> Ok folks, we are one week away from Videobloggingweek2007
>
> I usually don't do themes for videoblogging week, but i know it helps other
> people so lets knock out some ideas for themes adn then pick them. So far
> all I have seriously heard was the 7 deadly sins
>
> we have agreed on the technorati tag, now we need to nail out some other
> details.
>
> so what do we want videoblogging week to look like this year?
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Re: [videoblogging] video Blogging Week 2007

[Mike Meiser]

Josh I'm guessing you intended your graphics to be used by all. If you
could post them to a blog post somewhere and officially l declare a
creative commons or public domain license that'd be great.

If you could do a nice blog post "Get your videobloggingweek banners
here" and post any and all variations of your graphics we'll be sure
to reblog it and link to it from mefeedia.com/blog and for my part my
own blog.

I'd also like your permission to use them on the mefeedia.com tracking
page we're making.

As mentioned, mefeedia will be covering and tracking videoblogging
week... as I'm sure will be others, but I think we need an independent
community site at the center so the community can have something to
point to that they own.  That said I couldn't find anything else so I
created a pbwiki at the following url.

http://videobloggingweek.pbwiki.com/

The password for anyone who should wish to edit it is "videobloggingweek2007".

I encourage others to make it pretty, add information too it, create
their own graphics, especially blogroll banners... and to make their
own promos.  Post your video promos to your own vlogs please.

Again, I created this page because I couldn't find any public
community driven page for the event. I hope it can act as a central
information resource and pointer for videoblogging week.

So!  Who hear votes for this years theme to be "seven deadly sins for
seven deadly days of videoblogging"!?

Note: we can leave off the second deadly. :)

-Mike
mefeedia.com
mmeiser.com/blog

On 3/7/07, Josh Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007
> April 1-7 2007
>
> prepare yourselves!
>
> --
> Josh Leo
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> www.JoshLeo.com
> www.WanderingWestMichigan.com
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[videoblogging] vlogweek '07 update

[Josh Leo]

Ok folks, we are one week away from Videobloggingweek2007

I usually don't do themes for videoblogging week, but i know it helps other
people so lets knock out some ideas for themes adn then pick them. So far
all I have seriously heard was the 7 deadly sins

we have agreed on the technorati tag, now we need to nail out some other
details.

so what do we want videoblogging week to look like this year?


-- 
Josh Leo

www.JoshLeo.com
www.WanderingWestMichigan.com
www.SlowLorisMedia.com


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[videoblogging] NYC Vlog Army Needed 3-30-07

[~ FluxRostrum]

50-60 videographers needed in NYC on Friday 3-30 for roughly 2 hours to assist 
in capturing a city wide "moment".
This is not a commercial production.

If you're curious and available (for the event) get back to me off list.

This NOT related to the Ground Zero event last Tuesday
http://fluxrostrum.blogspot.com/2007/03/fox-news-lies-4th-anniversary.html


Solidarity,
~FluxRostrum

~
s... http://thisweekinfascism.com

GBC~ http://GlassBeadCollective.org
Nawlins~ http://NOTVcollective.org
VLOG~FLUX~ http://FluxRostrum.BlogSpot.com
Old School~ http://Fluxview.com
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: video Blogging Week 2007

[Mike Meiser]

I love the seven deadly sins idea.

It's much better then what I was thinking... "goodbye to old-stream media"

Always though... the general theme has to have something to do with
punk, and anarchy.

God save the queen

or "God save the mainstream!"

:)

BTW, do we have a public pbwiki page or something we're using for
putting together info or is this it.

I was working on a tracking page for mefeedia and trying to find
various other tracking, collaboration and information resources. Got
the spinexpress page... got corresponding flickr info... btw... if
someone wanted to create a flickr group that'd be cool... otherwise
I'm just linking to the tag feed.

Also... blip has a tracker for videos just posted to blip, dabble,
technoratti... maybe blogdigger.

If anyone has any wiki pages, trackers or any other dedicated sitelets
for videoblogging week please let me know.

-Mike
mefeedia.com
mmeiser.com/blog

On 3/9/07, Rupert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gluttony
> Greed
> Sloth
> Lust
> Pride
> Envy
> Wrath
> For the final day, though, you MUST include the following: high
> tension towers, a delivery van, some shouting, a 9mm semi-automatic
> pistol held at a funny angle and gwyneth paltrow's severed head in a
> cardboard box.
>
> On 9 Mar 2007, at 18:54, Adam Quirk, Wreck & Salvage wrote:
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> Meat
> Energy
> Vices
> Sexy (as in, bringing it back)
> Health
> Farts
> Language
>
> There you go, 7 days worth of fun. Note Sexy falls on hump day.
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> On 3/9/07, sull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > theme?
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>  >
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>  >
>  > - PUSH AWARENESS
>  >
>  > - LOST
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> Wreck & Salvage
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Re: [videoblogging] Local TV Covers my Vlog

[Richard (Show) Hall]

Bill,

This is really a nice news piece.

Congratulations, and good luck with your bungalow

... Richard

On 23 Mar 2007 05:02:47 -0700, Bill Streeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Our local Fox afiliate did a story about my vlog and vlogging in
> general last night. It's online now you can see it here:
> http://tinyurl.com/yvwjhw
>
> Bill Streeter
> LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
> www.lofistl.com
> www.billstreeter.net
>
>  
>



-- 
Richard
http://richardhhall.org
Shows
http://richardshow.org
http://inspiredhealing.tv


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Re: [videoblogging] Research into Videoblogging and Videoblogs - call for help

[Richard (Show) Hall]

Trine,

I'd be happy to help.

... Richard

On 22 Mar 2007 09:59:38 -0700, trine bjørkmann berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>   Hello,
>
> Some of you might know (of) me already, but for those of you who
> don't, I am a researcher in Media & Film at the University of Sussex,
> UK, and am currently writing my thesis on Videoblogging.
>
> Part of my study is conducting interviews with videobloggers, and I am
> currently looking for volunteers. I'd be really grateful if you would
> spare a little of your time to tell me about your site. If you agree
> to help, I'll mail you a few questions off list. Your answers can be
> as long or short as you like. You could really help me by spending as
> little as 10 minutes telling me about your experiences. In anything I
> use from what you say, I will make sure that no clues are given to
> your identity.
>
> I hope you will help. Sorry to have wasted your time if you're not
> interested.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Trine B Berry
>
> Doctoral Candidate
> Department of Media & Film
> University of Sussex
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>
> http://www.sussex.ac.uk/mediastudies/profile185401.html
>  
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-- 
Richard
http://richardhhall.org
Shows
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http://inspiredhealing.tv


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Competition for YouTube?

[Mike Meiser]

Dirst... on the "largest Internet video distribution network ever
assembled with the most sought-after content from television and
film"... the simply don't get it. And I've come to the realization
that they most likely never will.

Here's the thing.  What's being fought over right now between youtube
and universal is "control" of who gets to host the conversation.  But
that's the thing it IS a conversation... it's free speach.  It's fair
use.  People are "quoting" video... usually in clips less than two
minutes to discuss it and comment on it wildly. Just because people
haven't been able to quote video widely and publicly like they have
books and newspapers doesn't mean it's NOT fair use.

It is fair use... and as such viacom can sue youtube... and NBC can
start some b.s. but the bottom line is if you look at the relationship
of the blogosphere to newspapers... that is the SAME relationship
tradition media companies will have to inevitably deal with.  People
WILL post clips anywhere they choose... the video needs to come to the
conversation... not the conversation to the video... most obviously
because it's quite obvious that players like NBC are completely
incapable of making social websites... and who can blame them... the
social space is still evolving rapidly.

The bottom line is NBC and others attempts at creating their own
social networks or media networks will obviously server some purpose
but 99% of the conversation is going to take place on the blogs, the
myspace's, the youtbe's and thousands of bboards and mailing lists...
and the rreal distribution will take place on p2p, people emailing and
IM'ing urls and otherwise.

NBC's interpretation of distribution is sure to be as obtuse as DRM
itself... the bottom line is people need to be able to download a
video... chop it up with a video editing tool, and re-upload it to
whatever site they choose... wherever the conversation is taking
place, and this is something NBC will never be able to grasp and it's
not just a issue of entertainment... it fundamentally a free speach
issue.

We need the 100's of thousands of political vlogs to be able to
"quote" clips of the new... the daily show... or any program to
discuss them... particularly how these big media companies are
perverting reality.


About the mefeedia issues...

Mefeedia started ot as slackerware... which is not a negative at
all... it was the effort of several people's spare time, invested for
free. It's in transition to be something more. But as such it was not
designed from the ground up to be a publicly mass consume-able site.
In that it's sort of like craigslist... linux... or the original yahoo
or google which all started out this way... but it takes a lot of time
and energy to retroactively re-design, polish and improve the
usability and we hope you'll be patient with us and continue to
provide us with your feedback.

More comments below.

On 3/23/07, Zenophon Abraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Congrats on the site.  I'm not sold on it from a
> usability perspective.  It's way too busy.  It reminds
> me of Bloglines in its design problems.

I think I understand... as opposed to... an itunes... or a google reader.

Any examples of workflow's or site you like would be great... specific
points are even better.

We've recently revamped the homepage and are trying to simplify, and
clarify it's purpose. It was a huge improvement, but obviously we have
a long way to go.

> The three main concerns of your design should be "Can
> a person easily find the link button to go to his or
> her page?"

your page?  Your profile page? you're inbox? or your feed page?

> "Can a person set up an account with a few
> steps?"

We'd like to think we've made this as simple as possible. The form is
litterally in the homepage, it's extremely short, and we get you
signed up with a few suggested subscriptions and watching videos in
only a few clicks.

> and "Does the site promote vital video
> distribution well?"

"vital video distribution"?   I do think this is maybe the most
important point, but I'm not understanding what you mean.

Obviously mefeedia exists to promote individual videoblogs / podcasts.
Hopefully this is clear from the homepage. Please do elaborate.
What's important to you is what's important to use.

We think you want some place to find, track, and watch all your
favorite videoblogs... but what do you want? Be as specific as you
like.

> The front page throws a lot at one and doesn't have
> that simple "Start Here" button.  I'd do a complete
> redesign here.

We've added a big introduction box to the page that says the following.

Find. Collect. Watch. Share.
2,213,849 episodes from 22,811 video feeds across 13,561 websites
We don't host videos or podcasts. We just help you find the ones you
like. We're independent. We share the love.
Yea baby.

If you're already logged in of course you won't see it. Are you logged
in. I can understand if it's still not clear... there's a lot going on
on

Re: [videoblogging] Re: video Blogging Week 2007

[Harold Johnson]

Cool, thanks for that, Jan.  Checking it out now...

Harold

On 13 Mar 2007 11:15:29 -0700, Jan McLaughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Just created a Videoblogging Week 2007 Spin group and sent an email to
> this
> list, inviting any and every to try it out.
>
> Here's the tinyURL to the group's browser interface:
>
> *http://tinyurl.com/2mz5ds
>
> Am curious how Spin will act with an email list.
>
> Perhaps since Spin doesn't belong to the group it won't go through.
>
> Feel free to email me the email addy you'd like to use for an invitation
> (if
> necessary).
>
> I wanna practice some radical editing skilz on somebody's video, yo.
>
> Jan
> [who's really psyched with the idea of distributed production for VB Week
> 2007]
>
> *
>
> On 3/11/07, Jen Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> wrote:
> >
> > FedEx???
> > YUK!
> > SpinXpress it instead.
> > Collaborate, share the "work load" -- create a team of people in
> > different places to _together_ make one video a day -- and use
> > SpinXpress to share the source media and ideas via a wiki.
> >
> > Who has time for FedEx, and why spend HaveMoneyWillVlog money on
> > something that is free instead
> >
> > Go get spinxpress if you don't have it already.
> > http;//spinxpress.som
> >
> > (from Austin)
> > - Jen
> >
> > __
> >
> > Jen Simmons
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://jensimmons.com
> > http://milkweedmediadesign.com
> >
> >
> > On Mar 10, 2007, at 5:29 pm, Frank Sinton wrote:
> >
> > > The video relay idea could work - would just need a volunteer in
> > > each major area.
> > >
> > > Maybe for those that aren't near those areas - we could have a 1-day
> > > delay if they could FedEx to the voluteer nearest them. A
> > > HaveMoneyWillVLog fund for paying for the FedEx shipments?
> > >
> > > -Frank
> > > http://www.mefeedia.com - Find great videoblogs and podcasts.
> > > blog: http://www.mefeedia.com/blog
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> The Faux Press - better than real
> http://fauxpress.blogspot.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Let's Help The Others, As We Used To, To Vlog

[Harold Johnson]

...In all fairness, though, I have to admit that Jay did let me know, a
couple of days ago, about some videoblogging event in my neighborhood.  So I
don't feel uninvited to all the videoblogging group events; just bothered by
the sense that this group is far more selve-serving than I'd prefer.
Whatever.  Heading back to YouTube, where the true democracy of video
exists...

Harold

On 3/24/07, Harold Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Great post, Steve -- thanks for your feedback.
>
> Yeah, it kind of seemed to me that a couple of the attendees of that
> videoconference/chat were a bit nonplussed as to why you didn't post
> video...To me, it's a bit of elitism on their part, which I've noticed on
> this list quite a bit.  Seems that some members of this group, individually,
> "don't take kindly to strangers"...
>
> ...which is itself all the stranger (pun intended, and the correct phrase
> would actually be "more strange") since you've been a member of this list
> for some time and aren't exactly a "stranger" anymore...
>
> There are alot of nice/seemingly nice folks on this list, with good
> intentions.  But I also sense a bit of clique-ishness, which has solidified
> more and more over the past year.  Time to start up a new list, perhaps,
> something fresh and more open to all...
>
> Harold
> still the Podcaster;
> lost the domain
>
> On 3/12/07, Steve Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   Thanks for the tipoff, I watched about half an hour of it, hope I got
> > all the relevent bits.
> >
> > Great aim, I might be remembering wrong but I think part of the
> > original idea of vlogweek was to encourage others to vlog. Quite how
> > to achieve this is another question, I dont really know how many
> > lurkers are on this list that are potential vloggers who havent
> > managed it yet. As someone mentioned in the chat, youtube (and
> > similar) certainly lowered the ba to being able to put video online.
> > And Im not sure I can imagine too many vloggers going on youtube and
> > promoting this idea of videoblog week. I dunno, its something id like
> > to see, but Im really still unsure of the nature of any seperation
> > that does exist between the 2 groups. Would vlogweek seem silly to
> > some youtubers? Are there people who make videos but dont like the
> > term blog or think of themselves as bloggers? Scratches head and
> > wonders if youtubers will spontaneously do something similar
> > themselves, totally independently, at some unknown time. Or maybe not,
> > maybe every day is vlogday in youtube land.
> >
> > Anyway I never really helped with any education/awareness projects
> > myself, Im unaware of how active the nodes are these days. Off the top
> > of my head, if you want to make vlogweek alla bout getting new people
> > to start, some people have to go and promote the week in advance, in
> > places where people arent so aware of this thing, to focus all efforts
> > here or even youtube is preaching to the converted a bit. I suppose Id
> > also love to know some thoughts from any people who used to vlog and
> > have now stopped for whatever reason, and wheterh vlogweek can help
> > focus them to return, or just learn what put them off.
> >
> > I was mentioned in the chat as somone who doesnt vlog, and I agree
> > that I was not a good example of the people you are probably trying to
> > reach. Frankly it pains me that anybody really cares whether I am
> > vlogging, I did make 3 or 4 videos years ago, maybe it was even for a
> > vlog-week, I cant remember. One was me saying hello, one was fireant
> > being shown on a TV monitor (via tv out from graphics card on a pc)
> > and one was of NASAs world-wind which is an app like google earth. If
> > I can get myself sorted to make the sorts of vlogs I want to, then I
> > shall vlog during vlogweek.
> >
> > Funnily enough that stuff Enric was playing with in the chat, animated
> > avatar stuff, is something I thought might help me or anybody else
> > that suffers from shyness or self-image issues or something, to vlog.
> > I have pondered for some years as to whether such things built into
> > mobile phones, could be a saviour of the failed 'video phonecall',
> > maybe people dont want to be seen like that but wouldnt mind hiding
> > behind an avatar if it as ggood enough, and was based on live camera
> > input for facial gestures etc. Its taking a long time for any system
> > good enough to emerge on the desktop let alone the PC.
> >
> > Collaboration also came up and Im fascinated by the subject but I'll
> > start a new thread on that.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Steve Elbows
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com ,
> > "Harold Johnson"
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey clowns,
> > >
> > > We had a rather excellent videoconference the other day, especially
> > (in my
> > > opinion) when we begun talking about how we might be able to help
> > others to
> > > begin videoblogging during the upcoming Videoblogging Week 2007:
> > >
> >

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Let's Help The Others, As We Used To, To Vlog

[Harold Johnson]

Great post, Steve -- thanks for your feedback.

Yeah, it kind of seemed to me that a couple of the attendees of that
videoconference/chat were a bit nonplussed as to why you didn't post
video...To me, it's a bit of elitism on their part, which I've noticed on
this list quite a bit.  Seems that some members of this group, individually,
"don't take kindly to strangers"...

...which is itself all the stranger (pun intended, and the correct phrase
would actually be "more strange") since you've been a member of this list
for some time and aren't exactly a "stranger" anymore...

There are alot of nice/seemingly nice folks on this list, with good
intentions.  But I also sense a bit of clique-ishness, which has solidified
more and more over the past year.  Time to start up a new list, perhaps,
something fresh and more open to all...

Harold
still the Podcaster;
lost the domain

On 3/12/07, Steve Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Thanks for the tipoff, I watched about half an hour of it, hope I got
> all the relevent bits.
>
> Great aim, I might be remembering wrong but I think part of the
> original idea of vlogweek was to encourage others to vlog. Quite how
> to achieve this is another question, I dont really know how many
> lurkers are on this list that are potential vloggers who havent
> managed it yet. As someone mentioned in the chat, youtube (and
> similar) certainly lowered the ba to being able to put video online.
> And Im not sure I can imagine too many vloggers going on youtube and
> promoting this idea of videoblog week. I dunno, its something id like
> to see, but Im really still unsure of the nature of any seperation
> that does exist between the 2 groups. Would vlogweek seem silly to
> some youtubers? Are there people who make videos but dont like the
> term blog or think of themselves as bloggers? Scratches head and
> wonders if youtubers will spontaneously do something similar
> themselves, totally independently, at some unknown time. Or maybe not,
> maybe every day is vlogday in youtube land.
>
> Anyway I never really helped with any education/awareness projects
> myself, Im unaware of how active the nodes are these days. Off the top
> of my head, if you want to make vlogweek alla bout getting new people
> to start, some people have to go and promote the week in advance, in
> places where people arent so aware of this thing, to focus all efforts
> here or even youtube is preaching to the converted a bit. I suppose Id
> also love to know some thoughts from any people who used to vlog and
> have now stopped for whatever reason, and wheterh vlogweek can help
> focus them to return, or just learn what put them off.
>
> I was mentioned in the chat as somone who doesnt vlog, and I agree
> that I was not a good example of the people you are probably trying to
> reach. Frankly it pains me that anybody really cares whether I am
> vlogging, I did make 3 or 4 videos years ago, maybe it was even for a
> vlog-week, I cant remember. One was me saying hello, one was fireant
> being shown on a TV monitor (via tv out from graphics card on a pc)
> and one was of NASAs world-wind which is an app like google earth. If
> I can get myself sorted to make the sorts of vlogs I want to, then I
> shall vlog during vlogweek.
>
> Funnily enough that stuff Enric was playing with in the chat, animated
> avatar stuff, is something I thought might help me or anybody else
> that suffers from shyness or self-image issues or something, to vlog.
> I have pondered for some years as to whether such things built into
> mobile phones, could be a saviour of the failed 'video phonecall',
> maybe people dont want to be seen like that but wouldnt mind hiding
> behind an avatar if it as ggood enough, and was based on live camera
> input for facial gestures etc. Its taking a long time for any system
> good enough to emerge on the desktop let alone the PC.
>
> Collaboration also came up and Im fascinated by the subject but I'll
> start a new thread on that.
>
> Cheers
>
> Steve Elbows
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com , "
> Harold Johnson"
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hey clowns,
> >
> > We had a rather excellent videoconference the other day, especially
> (in my
> > opinion) when we begun talking about how we might be able to help
> others to
> > begin videoblogging during the upcoming Videoblogging Week 2007:
> >
> > http://somethingthathappened.com/2007/03/today-i-attended-another.html
> >
> > Follow the link for more links; jump into the Replay of the
> videoconference
> > and jump to 18:51 in the recording to see the topic we discussed.
> > Essentially, I was thinking that we could come up with a way to assist
> > others during our upcoming event.
> >
> > Harold
> > http://videoharold.com
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>  
>


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Re: [videoblogging] My(The?) Most Visually Intensive HD Blog Ever. From Kyle Fasanella

[T . Whid]

Lesson one:

Don't put spaces in your URLs. All the '%20' in your URL are space
characters.

It's best to use underscores '_' or hyphens '-'



On 23 Mar 2007 20:12:06 -0700, kylefasanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>   Need critique on newest HD videoBlog from Florida,New York,
>
> Hey guys,
>
> I just finished my newest creation of the video bloging world. It is a
> montage of last
> summer. There are shots from Chicago, New York, and Florida. I would Love
> to hear what you
> think Honestly. Love to hear any corrections that can be made with
> editing. I love to hear the
> negative more than the positive because it helps me improve. But the
> positive is nice too.
>
> Here is the link
>
> http://www.vilekyle.com/Vid%20Blogs/A%20Summer%20I
> 'l%20Never%20See%20Again/
> index.htm
>
>  
>


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[videoblogging] TeacherTube

[Beth Kanter]

http://www.teachertube.com/


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[videoblogging] Re: ooVoo Video Chat Trialists Needed

[oovooworld]

Hi Steve,

Thanks for your interest.

ooVoo is currently only available for Windows 2000, XP & Vista (the 
Mac version is under development) and should work with any webcam. 
You can still participate in ooVoo calls without a one but we highly 
recommend that you use a camera for the best experience.

Simon.

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> What operating system and video cameras does it work with?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Steve Elbows
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "oovooworld"  wrote:
> >
> > On behalf of our client ooVoo, we're looking for six volunteers 
to
> > trial their new video communication application, the beta 
version of
> > which has just been released. 
> > 
> > ooVoo enables up to five people to simultaneously connect, 
collaborate
> > and communicate with family, friends and colleagues in full 
sound and
> > video. For example organising a family get-together, sharing 
breaking
> > news or heckling friends during a favourite sporting event. 
> > 
> > If you're happy to take part you can contact me through this 
site or
> > via email and I'll direct you to a download link or ship you a 
CD if
> > you prefer.
> > 
> > I look forward to hearing from many of you and thanks for taking 
the
> > time to read this post.
> > 
> > Simon
> > 
> > 
> > simon@
> > 
> >
>

[videoblogging] Saturday March 24th, 2007 FlashMeeting

[Enric]

This coming Saturday, 3/24/07, FlashMeeting is set. The time for
entry is 10am - noon PST USA, 1pm - 3pm EST USA, 17:00-19:00 GMT.
Enter through this link:

http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/6e1604-7845

You may also check the FlashMeeting page at
http://flashmeeting.cirne.com for future and past Videoblogging
FlashMeetings at:

http://flashmeeting.cirne.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

Let me know if there's any topics you'd like to discuss on Saturday.


-- Enric
-==-
http://www.cirne.com