date:20210611

Great! Thank you! I will give it a try.

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 9:58 AM
  Subject: RE: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

  Assuming your phone has that feature turned on, if you turn it on on the iPad 
Mini, it will load things from the cloud to match the phone.

  It does not empty the phone.

  The idea of his allowing this method is that you only have to download a book 
or document on one device and then it syncs with the other device.

  Also, if you read say 20% of a file/book on one device.

  When  you open that same file on the other device, and hit play, it will 
start where you left off.

  It is a bit slow if you have audio files and can be extremely slow if they 
are large files.

  Some people have not had great experiences also with very large libraries; as 
in around a thousand files….

  HTH,

  Richard

  Software means never having to say you're finished

  Web site: www.turner42.com

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki 
W.
  Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 9:39 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

  OK. I deleted it and reinstalled and it's there and will open, but, although 
my created folders are still showing, of course they are all empty. I changed a 
few settings but I do have a question.

  I now have the option to sync my libraries. If I am in the mini IPad with the 
empty folders and select sync with ICloud, will that bring everything over from 
my phone VDR app or will it empty my phone app to match my mini IPAD? I 
certainly don't want both empty.

  I also noticed when reinstalling it in my purchased apps that my wireless 
router app needed to be redownloaded. I hadn't set up the system yet, but 
that's rather disturbing to know that maybe if I had, it may have affected my 
wireless router.

  Vicki

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:46 AM

Subject: RE: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

I only used screen recognition a short time when it was first available and 
found it so useless, I have not had it on since.

All apps, including VDR, are working great in 14.6 on my SE 2020.

Perhaps turning off screen recognition under VoiceOver settings, VoiceOver 
recognition, rebooting the phone, before installing VDR would be a work around.

But, everyone running into this issue needs to call Apple Accessibility for 
sure.

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dana 
Leet
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

Sadly unfortunately if she’s having the same problem we are with the latest 
update of iOS even if she does delete the app and reinstall it it will not 
solve the problem. I hope that she’s not having the same problem but it is 
seeming to be rampant and several of us are recognizing that it is happening on 
our phones. Even if you do the forced restart even if you’ve done an iPhone 
restore, since Apple is only allowing you even to go back if you were race your 
phone and get one iOS iCloud back up if there was a problem in that back up you 
can’t even go back far enough to get an update that will take you back to where 
you once were. Sadly if people are having this problem we just ask that you 
please contact Apple so that they can fix it. Dana

If you love wax melts, soap, bath and body items and anything to make you 
or your house smell wonderful visit my site for soy L Scents 

Http://www.my-soylscents.com/Dandi0821

Also join my Facebook group we will play awesome games and I will have 
several giveaways monthly 

https://m.facebook.com/groups/1442152382752404?_rdr 

  On Jun 11, 2021, at 10:30 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

  You won't have much of a choice but to uninstall and reinstal l the app, 
in most such situations this should fix the problem.

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Vicki W.
  Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 7:21 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

  I never did get into VDR. I just got into the settings for VDR in the IOS 
settings. VDR won't open at all, and I didn't use bookshare. I can send him the 
note if I can't find the answer in a day or two. It's the strangest thing that 
it would only happen on my Mini IPad 5 and not my phone.

  Thank you for the address.

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner 

To:

RE: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

Assuming your phone has that feature turned on, if you turn it on on the iPad 
Mini, it will load things from the cloud to match the phone.
It does not empty the phone.
The idea of his allowing this method is that you only have to download a book 
or document on one device and then it syncs with the other device.
Also, if you read say 20% of a file/book on one device.
When  you open that same file on the other device, and hit play, it will start 
where you left off.
It is a bit slow if you have audio files and can be extremely slow if they are 
large files.
Some people have not had great experiences also with very large libraries; as 
in around a thousand files….

HTH,


Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

OK. I deleted it and reinstalled and it's there and will open, but, although my 
created folders are still showing, of course they are all empty. I changed a 
few settings but I do have a question.

I now have the option to sync my libraries. If I am in the mini IPad with the 
empty folders and select sync with ICloud, will that bring everything over from 
my phone VDR app or will it empty my phone app to match my mini IPAD? I 
certainly don't want both empty.

I also noticed when reinstalling it in my purchased apps that my wireless 
router app needed to be redownloaded. I hadn't set up the system yet, but 
that's rather disturbing to know that maybe if I had, it may have affected my 
wireless router.

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:46 AM
Subject: RE: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

I only used screen recognition a short time when it was first available and 
found it so useless, I have not had it on since.
All apps, including VDR, are working great in 14.6 on my SE 2020.
Perhaps turning off screen recognition under VoiceOver settings, VoiceOver 
recognition, rebooting the phone, before installing VDR would be a work around.

But, everyone running into this issue needs to call Apple Accessibility for 
sure.


Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dana 
Leet
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader


Sadly unfortunately if she’s having the same problem we are with the latest 
update of iOS even if she does delete the app and reinstall it it will not 
solve the problem. I hope that she’s not having the same problem but it is 
seeming to be rampant and several of us are recognizing that it is happening on 
our phones. Even if you do the forced restart even if you’ve done an iPhone 
restore, since Apple is only allowing you even to go back if you were race your 
phone and get one iOS iCloud back up if there was a problem in that back up you 
can’t even go back far enough to get an update that will take you back to where 
you once were. Sadly if people are having this problem we just ask that you 
please contact Apple so that they can fix it. Dana
If you love wax melts, soap, bath and body items and anything to make you or 
your house smell wonderful visit my site for soy L Scents
Http://www.my-soylscents.com/Dandi0821
Also join my Facebook group we will play awesome games and I will have several 
giveaways monthly
https://m.facebook.com/groups/1442152382752404?_rdr

On Jun 11, 2021, at 10:30 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

You won't have much of a

Re: Major problem with latest iOS

2021-06-11 Thread Tim Leet

Thanks, however even when you do that and reinstall the app even if it is off 
once the app does not work there’s no way to get it to work again.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:51 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> 
> You can go to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, then VoicOver Recognition, 
> and in the screen recognition section is a list of apps. You can turn screen 
> recognition off for an app here.
> Devin Prater
> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
> gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/
> 
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 11:24 AM Dana Leet  wrote:
>> I think what everybody is failing to realize is when this problem occurs 
>> there is no evidence of screen recognition in the rotor whatsoever because 
>> the screen is 1000% completely blank meaning your app is completely useless 
>> you can’t do anything with it whatsoever as nothing speaks and when you ask 
>> someone to review the screen it is completely black
>> 
>> If you love wax melts, soap, bath and body items and anything to make you or 
>> your house smell wonderful visit my site for soy L Scents 
>> Http://www.my-soylscents.com/Dandi0821
>> Also join my Facebook group we will play awesome games and I will have 
>> several giveaways monthly 
>> https://m.facebook.com/groups/1442152382752404?_rdr 
>> 
 On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Matthew Bullis  
 wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> If you're in an app which has screen recognition turned on, twist the rotor 
>>> to screen recognition and flick down to turn it off. Then twist away so as 
>>> not to accidentally turn it on again.
>>> Matthew
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2021, at 9:06 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Why can you not turn it off?
>>> Devin Prater
>>> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
>>> gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 10:33 AM Tim Leet  wrote:
 Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I 
 currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to 
 open these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of 
 the reasons for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I 
 was in the app the other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back 
 up through iTunes, called Apple and they did a screen share and video and 
 send a ticket to the tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having 
 problems with any app not opening to please contact them and let them know 
 about it so they can try to find the problem. My wife is also having 
 difficulty with an app she downloaded yesterday it was working she turned 
 screen recognition on to try to figure out something in the app and it 
 will not load anymore. So the best advice I could give you is do not turn 
 screen recognition on if you do you may not be able to use the app that 
 you turned it on with because you definitely can’t turn it off once this 
 happens. Again anyone having these problems need to let Apple know.
 
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Re: Major problem with latest iOS

2021-06-11 Thread Tim Leet

 Doesn’t matter if the screen curtain is on or off the screen is still black 
nothing is there doesn’t matter what you do when this happens the app will not 
work

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:31 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> 
> 
> If your screen is black, use 3 fingers & tap the screen 3 times, to turn off 
> screen curtain.
> 
> Donna
> 
> 
>> 
>> I think what everybody is failing to realize is when this problem occurs 
>> there is no evidence of screen recognition in the rotor whatsoever because 
>> the screen is 1000% completely blank meaning your app is completely useless 
>> you can’t do anything with it whatsoever as nothing speaks and when you ask 
>> someone to review the screen it is completely black
>> 
>> If you love wax melts, soap, bath and body items and anything to make you or 
>> your house smell wonderful visit my site for soy L Scents 
>> Http://www.my-soylscents.com/Dandi0821
>> Also join my Facebook group we will play awesome games and I will have 
>> several giveaways monthly 
>> https://m.facebook.com/groups/1442152382752404?_rdr 
>> 
 On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Matthew Bullis  
 wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> If you're in an app which has screen recognition turned on, twist the rotor 
>>> to screen recognition and flick down to turn it off. Then twist away so as 
>>> not to accidentally turn it on again.
>>> Matthew
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2021, at 9:06 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Why can you not turn it off?
>>> Devin Prater
>>> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
>>> gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 10:33 AM Tim Leet  wrote:
 Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I 
 currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to 
 open these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of 
 the reasons for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I 
 was in the app the other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back 
 up through iTunes, called Apple and they did a screen share and video and 
 send a ticket to the tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having 
 problems with any app not opening to please contact them and let them know 
 about it so they can try to find the problem. My wife is also having 
 difficulty with an app she downloaded yesterday it was working she turned 
 screen recognition on to try to figure out something in the app and it 
 will not load anymore. So the best advice I could give you is do not turn 
 screen recognition on if you do you may not be able to use the app that 
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Re: Major problem with latest iOS

2021-06-11 Thread Devin Prater

You can go to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, then
VoicOver Recognition, and in the screen recognition section is a list of
apps. You can turn screen recognition off for an app here.
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
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On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 11:24 AM Dana Leet  wrote:

> I think what everybody is failing to realize is when this problem occurs
> there is no evidence of screen recognition in the rotor whatsoever because
> the screen is 1000% completely blank meaning your app is completely useless
> you can’t do anything with it whatsoever as nothing speaks and when you ask
> someone to review the screen it is completely black
>
> If you love wax melts, soap, bath and body items and anything to make you
> or your house smell wonderful visit my site for soy L Scents
> Http://www.my-soylscents.com/Dandi0821
> Also join my Facebook group we will play awesome games and I will have
> several giveaways monthly
> https://m.facebook.com/groups/1442152382752404?_rdr
>
> On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Matthew Bullis 
> wrote:
>
> 
> If you're in an app which has screen recognition turned on, twist the
> rotor to screen recognition and flick down to turn it off. Then twist away
> so as not to accidentally turn it on again.
> Matthew
>
>
> On Jun 11, 2021, at 9:06 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>
> 
> Why can you not turn it off?
> Devin Prater
> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
> gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 10:33 AM Tim Leet  wrote:
>
>> Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I
>> currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to
>> open these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of
>> the reasons for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I was
>> in the app the other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back up
>> through iTunes, called Apple and they did a screen share and video and send
>> a ticket to the tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having problems
>> with any app not opening to please contact them and let them know about it
>> so they can try to find the problem. My wife is also having difficulty with
>> an app she downloaded yesterday it was working she turned screen
>> recognition on to try to figure out something in the app and it will not
>> load anymore. So the best advice I could give you is do not turn screen
>> recognition on if you do you may not be able to use the app that you turned
>> it on with because you definitely can’t turn it off once this happens.
>> Again anyone having these problems need to let Apple know.
>>
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Re: Major problem with latest iOS

2021-06-11 Thread Donna Casteen

With the problem apps in the app switcher, place voiceover focus on the app, 
turn the rotor to screen recognition, flick to turn off screen recognition, tap 
to open the app. I am not having any trouble using Aira. IOS 14.6, most recent 
update to Aira.

Donna
 
> 
> Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I 
> currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to open 
> these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of the 
> reasons for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I was in 
> the app the other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back up through 
> iTunes, called Apple and they did a screen share and video and send a ticket 
> to the tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having problems with any 
> app not opening to please contact them and let them know about it so they can 
> try to find the problem. My wife is also having difficulty with an app she 
> downloaded yesterday it was working she turned screen recognition on to try 
> to figure out something in the app and it will not load anymore. So the best 
> advice I could give you is do not turn screen recognition on if you do you 
> may not be able to use the app that you turned it on with because you 
> definitely can’t turn it off once this happens. Again anyone having these 
> problems need to let Apple know.
> 
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Re: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

OK. I deleted it and reinstalled and it's there and will open, but, although my 
created folders are still showing, of course they are all empty. I changed a 
few settings but I do have a question.

I now have the option to sync my libraries. If I am in the mini IPad with the 
empty folders and select sync with ICloud, will that bring everything over from 
my phone VDR app or will it empty my phone app to match my mini IPAD? I 
certainly don't want both empty.

I also noticed when reinstalling it in my purchased apps that my wireless 
router app needed to be redownloaded. I hadn't set up the system yet, but 
that's rather disturbing to know that maybe if I had, it may have affected my 
wireless router.

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:46 AM
  Subject: RE: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader


  I only used screen recognition a short time when it was first available and 
found it so useless, I have not had it on since.

  All apps, including VDR, are working great in 14.6 on my SE 2020.

  Perhaps turning off screen recognition under VoiceOver settings, VoiceOver 
recognition, rebooting the phone, before installing VDR would be a work around.

   

  But, everyone running into this issue needs to call Apple Accessibility for 
sure.

   

   

  Richard

  Software means never having to say you're finished

   

  Web site: www.turner42.com

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dana 
Leet
  Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:36 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

   

   

  Sadly unfortunately if she’s having the same problem we are with the latest 
update of iOS even if she does delete the app and reinstall it it will not 
solve the problem. I hope that she’s not having the same problem but it is 
seeming to be rampant and several of us are recognizing that it is happening on 
our phones. Even if you do the forced restart even if you’ve done an iPhone 
restore, since Apple is only allowing you even to go back if you were race your 
phone and get one iOS iCloud back up if there was a problem in that back up you 
can’t even go back far enough to get an update that will take you back to where 
you once were. Sadly if people are having this problem we just ask that you 
please contact Apple so that they can fix it. Dana

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On Jun 11, 2021, at 10:30 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

 

You won't have much of a choice but to uninstall and reinstal l the app, in 
most such situations this should fix the problem.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Vicki W.
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 7:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

 

I never did get into VDR. I just got into the settings for VDR in the IOS 
settings. VDR won't open at all, and I didn't use bookshare. I can send him the 
note if I can't find the answer in a day or two. It's the strangest thing that 
it would only happen on my Mini IPad 5 and not my phone.

 

Thank you for the address.

 

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Richard Turner 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:56 AM

  Subject: RE: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

   

  When you did get into VDR, did you re-login to Bookshare, assuming you 
were using Bookshare?

  His update a little while ago added Bookshare version 2 and that required 
reentering one’s login information.

   

  I have VDR working fine on my SE 2020 with the latest updates.

  I am not sure what to recommend, other than the extreme step of deleting 
the app and reinstalling it; which I know is a royal pain and may lose some 
documents.

  Also, writing winston directly at wins...@voicedream.com

   

   

   

  Richard

  Software means never having to say you're finished

   

  Web site: www.turner42.com

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Vicki W.
  Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:38 AM
  To: IPhone 
  Subject: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

   

  Hi,

   

  I have a problem with Voice Dream Reader on my mini IPad five since the 
last update of IOS and the VDR app. I usually make sure everything is working 
before I update something else, but, of course, I was in a hurry and updated 
IOS first and then my apps shortly after that without at least checking those 
apps which I use every day. All

Re: Major problem with latest iOS

2021-06-11 Thread Donna Casteen

If your screen is black, use 3 fingers & tap the screen 3 times, to turn off 
screen curtain.

Donna


> 
> I think what everybody is failing to realize is when this problem occurs 
> there is no evidence of screen recognition in the rotor whatsoever because 
> the screen is 1000% completely blank meaning your app is completely useless 
> you can’t do anything with it whatsoever as nothing speaks and when you ask 
> someone to review the screen it is completely black
> 
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> your house smell wonderful visit my site for soy L Scents 
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> Also join my Facebook group we will play awesome games and I will have 
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> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Matthew Bullis  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> If you're in an app which has screen recognition turned on, twist the rotor 
>> to screen recognition and flick down to turn it off. Then twist away so as 
>> not to accidentally turn it on again.
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 11, 2021, at 9:06 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Why can you not turn it off?
>> Devin Prater
>> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
>> gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 10:33 AM Tim Leet  wrote:
>>> Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I 
>>> currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to 
>>> open these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of 
>>> the reasons for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I was 
>>> in the app the other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back up 
>>> through iTunes, called Apple and they did a screen share and video and send 
>>> a ticket to the tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having problems 
>>> with any app not opening to please contact them and let them know about it 
>>> so they can try to find the problem. My wife is also having difficulty with 
>>> an app she downloaded yesterday it was working she turned screen 
>>> recognition on to try to figure out something in the app and it will not 
>>> load anymore. So the best advice I could give you is do not turn screen 
>>> recognition on if you do you may not be able to use the app that you turned 
>>> it on with because you definitely can’t turn it off once this happens. 
>>> Again anyone having these problems need to let Apple know.
>>> 
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Re: Major problem with latest iOS

I think what everybody is failing to realize is when this problem occurs there 
is no evidence of screen recognition in the rotor whatsoever because the screen 
is 1000% completely blank meaning your app is completely useless you can’t do 
anything with it whatsoever as nothing speaks and when you ask someone to 
review the screen it is completely black

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> On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Matthew Bullis  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> If you're in an app which has screen recognition turned on, twist the rotor 
> to screen recognition and flick down to turn it off. Then twist away so as 
> not to accidentally turn it on again.
> Matthew
> 
> 
> On Jun 11, 2021, at 9:06 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> 
> Why can you not turn it off?
> Devin Prater
> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
> gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 10:33 AM Tim Leet  wrote:
>> Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I 
>> currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to 
>> open these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of the 
>> reasons for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I was in 
>> the app the other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back up through 
>> iTunes, called Apple and they did a screen share and video and send a ticket 
>> to the tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having problems with any 
>> app not opening to please contact them and let them know about it so they 
>> can try to find the problem. My wife is also having difficulty with an app 
>> she downloaded yesterday it was working she turned screen recognition on to 
>> try to figure out something in the app and it will not load anymore. So the 
>> best advice I could give you is do not turn screen recognition on if you do 
>> you may not be able to use the app that you turned it on with because you 
>> definitely can’t turn it off once this happens. Again anyone having these 
>> problems need to let Apple know.
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RE: FaceTime on Android and Windows

2021-06-11 Thread Christopher Chaltain

Ah, true, I should have said that I didn't hear of many blind users using 
Safari when it was available for Windows.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 9:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: FaceTime on Android and Windows

You don't hear of blind people or others for that matter running Safari on 
their PC because Safari does not exist for Windows users.
Apart from that there is ltittle use in speculating until this is available and 
we can all try it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 5:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: FaceTime on Android and Windows

Hm, maybe I'm missing something, but I don't think of Apple as having all that 
great a reputation of making simple, easy to use and accessible applications on 
other platforms. I still hear people complaining about iTunes on Windows. Last 
I knew, iCloud on the PC also wasn't the most accessible application either. I 
don't hear of many blind people running Safari on their PC's. Sorry, but I'm 
still skeptical! 

--
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 3:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FaceTime on Android and Windows

I am pretty sure it won't be all that complicated hell apple is not known for 
being overly complicated anyways.

On 6/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Joshua,
> Do you have an extra crystal ball I could borrow? You seem to know 
> something works easier before its competition has even been released.
> I know people who have torn their hair out over trying to share a 
> video over Zoom.
> Time will tell if Apple's share play works any better, but that cannot 
> be known until it is released.
>
>
> Richard
>
>
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
>
> On Jun 10, 2021, at 6:14 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>
> I'll just stick with zoom or skype on my computer.  They both just 
> work easier.
>
> On 6/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Well, we have only heard that it is a planned feature; no info about 
> implementation, accessibility, or anything; so being skeptical makes 
> perfect sense.
> I'm sure once public beta testing begins, there will be more details 
> around on the web concerning this.
>
> Just the fact that Apple is looking at a way to provide access to 
> non-Apple devices to FaceTime calls is worth taking note of.
>
> If this works well, it could replace Skype and Zoom and a few other 
> things if the screen sharing and all work as planned.
>
> A big if, but possibly very good.
>
>
>
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
> Web site:
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>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 4:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: FaceTime on Android and Windows
>
> I'm not sure how much this will open up the video conferencing world 
> since there are already so many options to choose from. Also, as a 
> blind person, I find using an application is generally preferable over 
> using the web interface, so I'm a bit skeptical of joining a Facetime 
> video conference through my browser on Windows or Android.
>
> --
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> Chaltain at Outlook
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 9:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: FaceTime on Android and Windows
>
> Yes this was mentioned and the connection on android and windows 
> devices is to be done through the web browsers on the non apple devices.
> Which to me is going to open the video conferencing world up so much 
> more now that facetime can be used on multiple platforms.
> Rather than everyone relying on the likes of zoom.
>
> It appeared to me that the majority of the features to come, Have 
> really been pushed by what has happened world wide with the covid 
>

Re: Major problem with latest iOS

2021-06-11 Thread Matthew Bullis

If you're in an app which has screen recognition turned on, twist the rotor to 
screen recognition and flick down to turn it off. Then twist away so as not to 
accidentally turn it on again.
Matthew


On Jun 11, 2021, at 9:06 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:


Why can you not turn it off?
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/



On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 10:33 AM Tim Leet  wrote:
> Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I 
> currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to open 
> these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of the 
> reasons for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I was in 
> the app the other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back up through 
> iTunes, called Apple and they did a screen share and video and send a ticket 
> to the tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having problems with any 
> app not opening to please contact them and let them know about it so they can 
> try to find the problem. My wife is also having difficulty with an app she 
> downloaded yesterday it was working she turned screen recognition on to try 
> to figure out something in the app and it will not load anymore. So the best 
> advice I could give you is do not turn screen recognition on if you do you 
> may not be able to use the app that you turned it on with because you 
> definitely can’t turn it off once this happens. Again anyone having these 
> problems need to let Apple know.
> 
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Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

2021-06-11 Thread Gerardo Corripio

Or go into Settings/Accessibity/Voiceover, and within Screen Regognition, you 
know how there's aa list of apps in which when selected, it'll turn it on 
automatically? Go in and deselect that app, or turn off completely the Screen 
Recognition option until it's fixed.
I've a blind friend here who has thethe same problem, which only started a few 
days ago; he says that a sighted person says the screen and app are alright. 
The problem is the Screen recognition feature itself.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 11 jun 2021, a la(s) 10:52 a.m., 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
>  escribió:
> 
> 
> has anyone tried a power off, wait two minutes, and power on again with a 
> cleared app switcher? I’m guessing this has been tried, but I don’t recall 
> having read it on this thread.
> 
> Best, Keith
> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2021, at 10:46 AM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> I only used screen recognition a short time when it was first available and 
>> found it so useless, I have not had it on since.
>> All apps, including VDR, are working great in 14.6 on my SE 2020.
>> Perhaps turning off screen recognition under VoiceOver settings, VoiceOver 
>> recognition, rebooting the phone, before installing VDR would be a work 
>> around.
>>  
>> But, everyone running into this issue needs to call Apple Accessibility for 
>> sure.
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>> 
>>  
>> Web site: www.turner42.com
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dana 
>> Leet
>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:36 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader
>>  
>>  
>> Sadly unfortunately if she’s having the same problem we are with the latest 
>> update of iOS even if she does delete the app and reinstall it it will not 
>> solve the problem. I hope that she’s not having the same problem but it is 
>> seeming to be rampant and several of us are recognizing that it is happening 
>> on our phones. Even if you do the forced restart even if you’ve done an 
>> iPhone restore, since Apple is only allowing you even to go back if you were 
>> race your phone and get one iOS iCloud back up if there was a problem in 
>> that back up you can’t even go back far enough to get an update that will 
>> take you back to where you once were. Sadly if people are having this 
>> problem we just ask that you please contact Apple so that they can fix it. 
>> Dana
>> 
>> If you love wax melts, soap, bath and body items and anything to make you or 
>> your house smell wonderful visit my site for soy L Scents 
>> Http://www.my-soylscents.com/Dandi0821
>> Also join my Facebook group we will play awesome games and I will have 
>> several giveaways monthly 
>> https://m.facebook.com/groups/1442152382752404?_rdr 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 11, 2021, at 10:30 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> You won't have much of a choice but to uninstall and reinstal l the app, in 
>> most such situations this should fix the problem.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki 
>> W.
>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 7:21 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader
>>  
>> I never did get into VDR. I just got into the settings for VDR in the IOS 
>> settings. VDR won't open at all, and I didn't use bookshare. I can send him 
>> the note if I can't find the answer in a day or two. It's the strangest 
>> thing that it would only happen on my Mini IPad 5 and not my phone.
>>  
>> Thank you for the address.
>>  
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Richard Turner
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:56 AM
>> Subject: RE: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader
>>  
>> When you did get into VDR, did you re-login to Bookshare, assuming you were 
>> using Bookshare?
>> His update a little while ago added Bookshare version 2 and that required 
>> reentering one’s login information.
>>  
>> I have VDR working fine on my SE 2020 with the latest updates.
>> I am not sure what to recommend, other than the extreme step of deleting the 
>> app and reinstalling it; which I know is a royal pain and may lose some 
>> documents.
>> Also, writing winston directly at wins...@voicedream.com
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>> 
>>  
>> Web site: www.turner42.com
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki 
>> W.
>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:38 AM
>> To: IPhone 
>> Subject: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I have a problem with Voice Dream Reader on my mini IPad five since the last 
>> update of IOS and the VDR app. I usually make sure everything is working 
>> before I update something else, but, of course, I was in a hurry and updated 
>> IOS first and then my apps shortly after that without at least checking 
>> those apps which I use every day. All of my

Re: Major problem with latest iOS

2021-06-11 Thread Devin Prater

Why can you not turn it off?
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/



On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 10:33 AM Tim Leet  wrote:

> Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I
> currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to
> open these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of
> the reasons for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I was
> in the app the other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back up
> through iTunes, called Apple and they did a screen share and video and send
> a ticket to the tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having problems
> with any app not opening to please contact them and let them know about it
> so they can try to find the problem. My wife is also having difficulty with
> an app she downloaded yesterday it was working she turned screen
> recognition on to try to figure out something in the app and it will not
> load anymore. So the best advice I could give you is do not turn screen
> recognition on if you do you may not be able to use the app that you turned
> it on with because you definitely can’t turn it off once this happens.
> Again anyone having these problems need to let Apple know.
>
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Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

2021-06-11 Thread 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone


I’ve tried everything from clearing the app switcher doing forced restart so if 
you know what that is with the up and down and then holding in the power button 
tried every option possible that I could try we even restore through iTunes 
which by the way if you guys need to do that you have to use NVDA as the latest 
version of jaws is not working well with the latest version of iTunes but NBA 
NVDA allowed me to do it. Sadly I’m hoping that the next iOS update will fix it 
otherwise we’re not sure how many more apps we won’t be able to open

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> On Jun 11, 2021, at 11:52 AM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> has anyone tried a power off, wait two minutes, and power on again with a 
> cleared app switcher? I’m guessing this has been tried, but I don’t recall 
> having read it on this thread.
> 
> Best, Keith
> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2021, at 10:46 AM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> I only used screen recognition a short time when it was first available and 
>> found it so useless, I have not had it on since.
>> All apps, including VDR, are working great in 14.6 on my SE 2020.
>> Perhaps turning off screen recognition under VoiceOver settings, VoiceOver 
>> recognition, rebooting the phone, before installing VDR would be a work 
>> around.
>>  
>> But, everyone running into this issue needs to call Apple Accessibility for 
>> sure.
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>> 
>>  
>> Web site: www.turner42.com
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dana 
>> Leet
>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:36 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader
>>  
>>  
>> Sadly unfortunately if she’s having the same problem we are with the latest 
>> update of iOS even if she does delete the app and reinstall it it will not 
>> solve the problem. I hope that she’s not having the same problem but it is 
>> seeming to be rampant and several of us are recognizing that it is happening 
>> on our phones. Even if you do the forced restart even if you’ve done an 
>> iPhone restore, since Apple is only allowing you even to go back if you were 
>> race your phone and get one iOS iCloud back up if there was a problem in 
>> that back up you can’t even go back far enough to get an update that will 
>> take you back to where you once were. Sadly if people are having this 
>> problem we just ask that you please contact Apple so that they can fix it. 
>> Dana
>> 
>> If you love wax melts, soap, bath and body items and anything to make you or 
>> your house smell wonderful visit my site for soy L Scents 
>> Http://www.my-soylscents.com/Dandi0821
>> Also join my Facebook group we will play awesome games and I will have 
>> several giveaways monthly 
>> https://m.facebook.com/groups/1442152382752404?_rdr 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 11, 2021, at 10:30 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> You won't have much of a choice but to uninstall and reinstal l the app, in 
>> most such situations this should fix the problem.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki 
>> W.
>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 7:21 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader
>>  
>> I never did get into VDR. I just got into the settings for VDR in the IOS 
>> settings. VDR won't open at all, and I didn't use bookshare. I can send him 
>> the note if I can't find the answer in a day or two. It's the strangest 
>> thing that it would only happen on my Mini IPad 5 and not my phone.
>>  
>> Thank you for the address.
>>  
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Richard Turner
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:56 AM
>> Subject: RE: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader
>>  
>> When you did get into VDR, did you re-login to Bookshare, assuming you were 
>> using Bookshare?
>> His update a little while ago added Bookshare version 2 and that required 
>> reentering one’s login information.
>>  
>> I have VDR working fine on my SE 2020 with the latest updates.
>> I am not sure what to recommend, other than the extreme step of deleting the 
>> app and reinstalling it; which I know is a royal pain and may lose some 
>> documents.
>> Also, writing winston directly at wins...@voicedream.com
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>> 
>>  
>> Web site: www.turner42.com
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki 
>> W.
>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:38 AM
>> To: IPhone 
>> Subject: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I have a problem with Voice

Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

has anyone tried a power off, wait two minutes, and power on again with a 
cleared app switcher? I’m guessing this has been tried, but I don’t recall 
having read it on this thread.

Best, Keith

On Jun 11, 2021, at 10:46 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:


I only used screen recognition a short time when it was first available and 
found it so useless, I have not had it on since.
All apps, including VDR, are working great in 14.6 on my SE 2020.
Perhaps turning off screen recognition under VoiceOver settings, VoiceOver 
recognition, rebooting the phone, before installing VDR would be a work around.

But, everyone running into this issue needs to call Apple Accessibility for 
sure.


Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dana Leet
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader


Sadly unfortunately if she’s having the same problem we are with the latest 
update of iOS even if she does delete the app and reinstall it it will not 
solve the problem. I hope that she’s not having the same problem but it is 
seeming to be rampant and several of us are recognizing that it is happening on 
our phones. Even if you do the forced restart even if you’ve done an iPhone 
restore, since Apple is only allowing you even to go back if you were race your 
phone and get one iOS iCloud back up if there was a problem in that back up you 
can’t even go back far enough to get an update that will take you back to where 
you once were. Sadly if people are having this problem we just ask that you 
please contact Apple so that they can fix it. Dana
If you love wax melts, soap, bath and body items and anything to make you or 
your house smell wonderful visit my site for soy L Scents
Http://www.my-soylscents.com/Dandi0821
Also join my Facebook group we will play awesome games and I will have several 
giveaways monthly
https://m.facebook.com/groups/1442152382752404?_rdr


On Jun 11, 2021, at 10:30 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

You won't have much of a choice but to uninstall and reinstal l the app, in 
most such situations this should fix the problem.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Vicki 
W.
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 7:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

I never did get into VDR. I just got into the settings for VDR in the IOS 
settings. VDR won't open at all, and I didn't use bookshare. I can send him the 
note if I can't find the answer in a day or two. It's the strangest thing that 
it would only happen on my Mini IPad 5 and not my phone.

Thank you for the address.


- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:56 AM
Subject: RE: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

When you did get into VDR, did you re-login to Bookshare, assuming you were 
using Bookshare?
His update a little while ago added Bookshare version 2 and that required 
reentering one’s login information.

I have VDR working fine on my SE 2020 with the latest updates.
I am not sure what to recommend, other than the extreme step of deleting the 
app and reinstalling it; which I know is a royal pain and may lose some 
documents.
Also, writing winston directly at 
wins...@voicedream.com



Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Vicki 
W.
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:38 AM
To: IPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

Hi,

I have a problem with Voice Dream Reader on my mini IPad five since the last 
update of IOS and the VDR app. I usually make sure everything is working before 
I update something else, but, of course, I was in a hurry and updated IOS first 
and then my apps shortly after that without at least checking those apps which 
I use every day. All of my other apps are working fine, but VDR is broken! 
Below is a list of things that are happening.

1. Whenever I try to open VDR, it goes to my home screen. It shows up in the 
app switcher, but I get the same result when I try to open it from there as 
well. It simply will not allow me access.

2. When VDR appears to be

RE: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

I only used screen recognition a short time when it was first available and 
found it so useless, I have not had it on since.
All apps, including VDR, are working great in 14.6 on my SE 2020.
Perhaps turning off screen recognition under VoiceOver settings, VoiceOver 
recognition, rebooting the phone, before installing VDR would be a work around.

But, everyone running into this issue needs to call Apple Accessibility for 
sure.


Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dana Leet
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader


Sadly unfortunately if she’s having the same problem we are with the latest 
update of iOS even if she does delete the app and reinstall it it will not 
solve the problem. I hope that she’s not having the same problem but it is 
seeming to be rampant and several of us are recognizing that it is happening on 
our phones. Even if you do the forced restart even if you’ve done an iPhone 
restore, since Apple is only allowing you even to go back if you were race your 
phone and get one iOS iCloud back up if there was a problem in that back up you 
can’t even go back far enough to get an update that will take you back to where 
you once were. Sadly if people are having this problem we just ask that you 
please contact Apple so that they can fix it. Dana
If you love wax melts, soap, bath and body items and anything to make you or 
your house smell wonderful visit my site for soy L Scents
Http://www.my-soylscents.com/Dandi0821
Also join my Facebook group we will play awesome games and I will have several 
giveaways monthly
https://m.facebook.com/groups/1442152382752404?_rdr


On Jun 11, 2021, at 10:30 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

You won't have much of a choice but to uninstall and reinstal l the app, in 
most such situations this should fix the problem.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Vicki 
W.
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 7:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

I never did get into VDR. I just got into the settings for VDR in the IOS 
settings. VDR won't open at all, and I didn't use bookshare. I can send him the 
note if I can't find the answer in a day or two. It's the strangest thing that 
it would only happen on my Mini IPad 5 and not my phone.

Thank you for the address.


- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:56 AM
Subject: RE: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

When you did get into VDR, did you re-login to Bookshare, assuming you were 
using Bookshare?
His update a little while ago added Bookshare version 2 and that required 
reentering one’s login information.

I have VDR working fine on my SE 2020 with the latest updates.
I am not sure what to recommend, other than the extreme step of deleting the 
app and reinstalling it; which I know is a royal pain and may lose some 
documents.
Also, writing winston directly at 
wins...@voicedream.com



Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Vicki 
W.
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:38 AM
To: IPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

Hi,

I have a problem with Voice Dream Reader on my mini IPad five since the last 
update of IOS and the VDR app. I usually make sure everything is working before 
I update something else, but, of course, I was in a hurry and updated IOS first 
and then my apps shortly after that without at least checking those apps which 
I use every day. All of my other apps are working fine, but VDR is broken! 
Below is a list of things that are happening.

1. Whenever I try to open VDR, it goes to my home screen. It shows up in the 
app switcher, but I get the same result when I try to open it from there as 
well. It simply will not allow me access.

2. When VDR appears to be running, my app switcher will not switch from one app 
to another with the four-finger side swipe. It goes directly to my home screen 
instead.

3. If I have several apps running in the app switcher, including VDR, when I 
close one, VDR just vanishes as if it

Re: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader


Sadly unfortunately if she’s having the same problem we are with the latest 
update of iOS even if she does delete the app and reinstall it it will not 
solve the problem. I hope that she’s not having the same problem but it is 
seeming to be rampant and several of us are recognizing that it is happening on 
our phones. Even if you do the forced restart even if you’ve done an iPhone 
restore, since Apple is only allowing you even to go back if you were race your 
phone and get one iOS iCloud back up if there was a problem in that back up you 
can’t even go back far enough to get an update that will take you back to where 
you once were. Sadly if people are having this problem we just ask that you 
please contact Apple so that they can fix it. Dana

If you love wax melts, soap, bath and body items and anything to make you or 
your house smell wonderful visit my site for soy L Scents 
Http://www.my-soylscents.com/Dandi0821
Also join my Facebook group we will play awesome games and I will have several 
giveaways monthly 
https://m.facebook.com/groups/1442152382752404?_rdr 

> On Jun 11, 2021, at 10:30 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> You won't have much of a choice but to uninstall and reinstal l the app, in 
> most such situations this should fix the problem.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki 
> W.
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 7:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader
>  
> I never did get into VDR. I just got into the settings for VDR in the IOS 
> settings. VDR won't open at all, and I didn't use bookshare. I can send him 
> the note if I can't find the answer in a day or two. It's the strangest thing 
> that it would only happen on my Mini IPad 5 and not my phone.
>  
> Thank you for the address.
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:56 AM
> Subject: RE: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader
>  
> When you did get into VDR, did you re-login to Bookshare, assuming you were 
> using Bookshare?
> His update a little while ago added Bookshare version 2 and that required 
> reentering one’s login information.
>  
> I have VDR working fine on my SE 2020 with the latest updates.
> I am not sure what to recommend, other than the extreme step of deleting the 
> app and reinstalling it; which I know is a royal pain and may lose some 
> documents.
> Also, writing winston directly at wins...@voicedream.com
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki 
> W.
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:38 AM
> To: IPhone 
> Subject: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader
>  
> Hi,
>  
> I have a problem with Voice Dream Reader on my mini IPad five since the last 
> update of IOS and the VDR app. I usually make sure everything is working 
> before I update something else, but, of course, I was in a hurry and updated 
> IOS first and then my apps shortly after that without at least checking those 
> apps which I use every day. All of my other apps are working fine, but VDR is 
> broken! Below is a list of things that are happening.
>  
> 1. Whenever I try to open VDR, it goes to my home screen. It shows up in the 
> app switcher, but I get the same result when I try to open it from there as 
> well. It simply will not allow me access.
>  
> 2. When VDR appears to be running, my app switcher will not switch from one 
> app to another with the four-finger side swipe. It goes directly to my home 
> screen instead.
>  
> 3. If I have several apps running in the app switcher, including VDR, when I 
> close one, VDR just vanishes as if it wasn't ever there and at that point my 
> app switcher will work properly with the other apps.
>  
> 4. If I open IOS settings, go into VDR settings, it seems as though it is 
> functioning as far as accessing the settings in the IOS settings. However, if 
> I close IOS settings, when I reopen it, instead of opening up the last 
> setting I was checking, as it has always done, it won't open VDR settings, 
> but opens the previous one I was checking instead.
>  
> Anyone have any suggestions? I've tried looking at every setting I can think 
> of, opening and closing other apps so the app switcher is completely empty, 
> turning the mini IPad off and on and nothing fixes it. My older SE phone, 
> using the exact same updates, works fine.
>  
> Thank you.
>  
> Vicki
>  
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Major problem with latest iOS

2021-06-11 Thread Tim Leet

Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I 
currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to open 
these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of the reasons 
for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I was in the app the 
other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back up through iTunes, called 
Apple and they did a screen share and video and send a ticket to the 
tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having problems with any app not 
opening to please contact them and let them know about it so they can try to 
find the problem. My wife is also having difficulty with an app she downloaded 
yesterday it was working she turned screen recognition on to try to figure out 
something in the app and it will not load anymore. So the best advice I could 
give you is do not turn screen recognition on if you do you may not be able to 
use the app that you turned it on with because you definitely can’t turn it off 
once this happens. Again anyone having these problems need to let Apple know.

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Re: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

Good morning everyone. I thought I would respond to this message in hopes that 
a lot of you will read it. There is definitely a major bug with this latest iOS 
update 14.6 it is happening on my husband and my SE 2020s and it makes sense 
Vickie that it’s happening on your iPad for some reason if you ever turn screen 
recognition on we are finding that some apps are refusing to open. My husband 
is not able to get Outlook or Aira to open on his phone and I downloaded a new 
app last night and it would not open on my phone. We contacted Apple support, 
and they had us do screen sharing that and they are advising anyone who is 
having these problems to contact Apple and have it screen shared so that they 
can figure out what is going on because it is happening where many of us due to 
this latest update are having trouble opening apps. I am certainly hoping that 
my voice stream does not mess up because I have thousands of books in it

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> On Jun 11, 2021, at 10:55 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:
> 
> 
> I know there are a couple of places where you can delete the app, but which 
> is the best place and then do I just look under my purchased apps to 
> reinstall it?
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:56 AM
> Subject: RE: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader
> 
> When you did get into VDR, did you re-login to Bookshare, assuming you were 
> using Bookshare?
> His update a little while ago added Bookshare version 2 and that required 
> reentering one’s login information.
>  
> I have VDR working fine on my SE 2020 with the latest updates.
> I am not sure what to recommend, other than the extreme step of deleting the 
> app and reinstalling it; which I know is a royal pain and may lose some 
> documents.
> Also, writing winston directly at wins...@voicedream.com
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki 
> W.
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:38 AM
> To: IPhone 
> Subject: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader
>  
> Hi,
>  
> I have a problem with Voice Dream Reader on my mini IPad five since the last 
> update of IOS and the VDR app. I usually make sure everything is working 
> before I update something else, but, of course, I was in a hurry and updated 
> IOS first and then my apps shortly after that without at least checking those 
> apps which I use every day. All of my other apps are working fine, but VDR is 
> broken! Below is a list of things that are happening.
>  
> 1. Whenever I try to open VDR, it goes to my home screen. It shows up in the 
> app switcher, but I get the same result when I try to open it from there as 
> well. It simply will not allow me access.
>  
> 2. When VDR appears to be running, my app switcher will not switch from one 
> app to another with the four-finger side swipe. It goes directly to my home 
> screen instead.
>  
> 3. If I have several apps running in the app switcher, including VDR, when I 
> close one, VDR just vanishes as if it wasn't ever there and at that point my 
> app switcher will work properly with the other apps.
>  
> 4. If I open IOS settings, go into VDR settings, it seems as though it is 
> functioning as far as accessing the settings in the IOS settings. However, if 
> I close IOS settings, when I reopen it, instead of opening up the last 
> setting I was checking, as it has always done, it won't open VDR settings, 
> but opens the previous one I was checking instead.
>  
> Anyone have any suggestions? I've tried looking at every setting I can think 
> of, opening and closing other apps so the app switcher is completely empty, 
> turning the mini IPad off and on and nothing fixes it. My older SE phone, 
> using the exact same updates, works fine.
>  
> Thank you.
>  
> Vicki
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RE: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

I just delete apps where they are located by flicking up to edit mode and 
double tapping, then select delete app and again delete app rather than remove 
which just puts it in the app library.

Then, you can just redownload it through the purchased apps or sometimes it is 
just as easy to search for the app in the app store and redownload it.
Then, you will need to go into the shop tab in VDR and select restore purchases.

HTH,

Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 7:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

I know there are a couple of places where you can delete the app, but which is 
the best place and then do I just look under my purchased apps to reinstall it?


- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:56 AM
Subject: RE: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

When you did get into VDR, did you re-login to Bookshare, assuming you were 
using Bookshare?
His update a little while ago added Bookshare version 2 and that required 
reentering one's login information.

I have VDR working fine on my SE 2020 with the latest updates.
I am not sure what to recommend, other than the extreme step of deleting the 
app and reinstalling it; which I know is a royal pain and may lose some 
documents.
Also, writing winston directly at 
wins...@voicedream.com



Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Vicki 
W.
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:38 AM
To: IPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

Hi,

I have a problem with Voice Dream Reader on my mini IPad five since the last 
update of IOS and the VDR app. I usually make sure everything is working before 
I update something else, but, of course, I was in a hurry and updated IOS first 
and then my apps shortly after that without at least checking those apps which 
I use every day. All of my other apps are working fine, but VDR is broken! 
Below is a list of things that are happening.

1. Whenever I try to open VDR, it goes to my home screen. It shows up in the 
app switcher, but I get the same result when I try to open it from there as 
well. It simply will not allow me access.

2. When VDR appears to be running, my app switcher will not switch from one app 
to another with the four-finger side swipe. It goes directly to my home screen 
instead.

3. If I have several apps running in the app switcher, including VDR, when I 
close one, VDR just vanishes as if it wasn't ever there and at that point my 
app switcher will work properly with the other apps.

4. If I open IOS settings, go into VDR settings, it seems as though it is 
functioning as far as accessing the settings in the IOS settings. However, if I 
close IOS settings, when I reopen it, instead of opening up the last setting I 
was checking, as it has always done, it won't open VDR settings, but opens the 
previous one I was checking instead.

Anyone have any suggestions? I've tried looking at every setting I can think 
of, opening and closing other apps so the app switcher is completely empty, 
turning the mini IPad off and on and nothing fixes it. My older SE phone, using 
the exact same updates, works fine.

Thank you.

Vicki

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RE: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

2021-06-11 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Just on the home screen where the app is, swipe down to Ediit Mode, then once 
Edit Mode is active, swipe down again and you are on Delete. Double tap and 
confirm that you want to delete the app, you also have an option to move it to 
the app library, but you want to delete it. Most likely you get one more prompt 
and you have to confirm again, then it's gone. Yes, afterwards you can go to 
your Purchased Apps section or simply search for Voice Dream Reader, it should 
say "Download" or "Reinstall" and if it asks that you need to confirm anything 
just do it, you will not be charged for anything you purchased before.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 7:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

I know there are a couple of places where you can delete the app, but which is 
the best place and then do I just look under my purchased apps to reinstall it?


- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:56 AM
Subject: RE: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

When you did get into VDR, did you re-login to Bookshare, assuming you were 
using Bookshare?
His update a little while ago added Bookshare version 2 and that required 
reentering one’s login information.

I have VDR working fine on my SE 2020 with the latest updates.
I am not sure what to recommend, other than the extreme step of deleting the 
app and reinstalling it; which I know is a royal pain and may lose some 
documents.
Also, writing winston directly at 
wins...@voicedream.com



Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:38 AM
To: IPhone 
Subject: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

Hi,

I have a problem with Voice Dream Reader on my mini IPad five since the last 
update of IOS and the VDR app. I usually make sure everything is working before 
I update something else, but, of course, I was in a hurry and updated IOS first 
and then my apps shortly after that without at least checking those apps which 
I use every day. All of my other apps are working fine, but VDR is broken! 
Below is a list of things that are happening.

1. Whenever I try to open VDR, it goes to my home screen. It shows up in the 
app switcher, but I get the same result when I try to open it from there as 
well. It simply will not allow me access.

2. When VDR appears to be running, my app switcher will not switch from one app 
to another with the four-finger side swipe. It goes directly to my home screen 
instead.

3. If I have several apps running in the app switcher, including VDR, when I 
close one, VDR just vanishes as if it wasn't ever there and at that point my 
app switcher will work properly with the other apps.

4. If I open IOS settings, go into VDR settings, it seems as though it is 
functioning as far as accessing the settings in the IOS settings. However, if I 
close IOS settings, when I reopen it, instead of opening up the last setting I 
was checking, as it has always done, it won't open VDR settings, but opens the 
previous one I was checking instead.

Anyone have any suggestions? I've tried looking at every setting I can think 
of, opening and closing other apps so the app switcher is completely empty, 
turning the mini IPad off and on and nothing fixes it. My older SE phone, using 
the exact same updates, works fine.

Thank you.

Vicki

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Re: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

I know there are a couple of places where you can delete the app, but which is
the best place and then do I just look under my purchased apps to reinstall it?

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:56 AM
Subject: RE: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

When you did get into VDR, did you re-login to Bookshare, assuming you were
using Bookshare?

His update a little while ago added Bookshare version 2 and that required
reentering one’s login information.

I have VDR working fine on my SE 2020 with the latest updates.

I am not sure what to recommend, other than the extreme step of deleting the
app and reinstalling it; which I know is a royal pain and may lose some
documents.

Also, writing winston directly at wins...@voicedream.com

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Vicki
W.
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:38 AM
To: IPhone
Subject: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

Hi,

I have a problem with Voice Dream Reader on my mini IPad five since the last
update of IOS and the VDR app. I usually make sure everything is working before
I update something else, but, of course, I was in a hurry and updated IOS first
and then my apps shortly after that without at least checking those apps which
I use every day. All of my other apps are working fine, but VDR is broken!
Below is a list of things that are happening.

1. Whenever I try to open VDR, it goes to my home screen. It shows up in the
app switcher, but I get the same result when I try to open it from there as
well. It simply will not allow me access.

2. When VDR appears to be running, my app switcher will not switch from one
app to another with the four-finger side swipe. It goes directly to my home
screen instead.

3. If I have several apps running in the app switcher, including VDR, when I
close one, VDR just vanishes as if it wasn't ever there and at that point my
app switcher will work properly with the other apps.

4. If I open IOS settings, go into VDR settings, it seems as though it is
functioning as far as accessing the settings in the IOS settings. However, if I
close IOS settings, when I reopen it, instead of opening up the last setting I
was checking, as it has always done, it won't open VDR settings, but opens the
previous one I was checking instead.

Anyone have any suggestions? I've tried looking at every setting I can think
of, opening and closing other apps so the app switcher is completely empty,
turning the mini IPad off and on and nothing fixes it. My older SE phone, using
the exact same updates, works fine.

Thank you.

Vicki

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RE: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

2021-06-11 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

You won't have much of a choice but to uninstall and reinstal l the app, in 
most such situations this should fix the problem.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 7:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

I never did get into VDR. I just got into the settings for VDR in the IOS 
settings. VDR won't open at all, and I didn't use bookshare. I can send him the 
note if I can't find the answer in a day or two. It's the strangest thing that 
it would only happen on my Mini IPad 5 and not my phone.

Thank you for the address.

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:56 AM
Subject: RE: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

When you did get into VDR, did you re-login to Bookshare, assuming you were 
using Bookshare?
His update a little while ago added Bookshare version 2 and that required 
reentering one’s login information.

I have VDR working fine on my SE 2020 with the latest updates.
I am not sure what to recommend, other than the extreme step of deleting the 
app and reinstalling it; which I know is a royal pain and may lose some 
documents.
Also, writing winston directly at 
wins...@voicedream.com

Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:38 AM
To: IPhone 
Subject: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

Hi,

I have a problem with Voice Dream Reader on my mini IPad five since the last 
update of IOS and the VDR app. I usually make sure everything is working before 
I update something else, but, of course, I was in a hurry and updated IOS first 
and then my apps shortly after that without at least checking those apps which 
I use every day. All of my other apps are working fine, but VDR is broken! 
Below is a list of things that are happening.

1. Whenever I try to open VDR, it goes to my home screen. It shows up in the 
app switcher, but I get the same result when I try to open it from there as 
well. It simply will not allow me access.

2. When VDR appears to be running, my app switcher will not switch from one app 
to another with the four-finger side swipe. It goes directly to my home screen 
instead.

3. If I have several apps running in the app switcher, including VDR, when I 
close one, VDR just vanishes as if it wasn't ever there and at that point my 
app switcher will work properly with the other apps.

4. If I open IOS settings, go into VDR settings, it seems as though it is 
functioning as far as accessing the settings in the IOS settings. However, if I 
close IOS settings, when I reopen it, instead of opening up the last setting I 
was checking, as it has always done, it won't open VDR settings, but opens the 
previous one I was checking instead.

Anyone have any suggestions? I've tried looking at every setting I can think 
of, opening and closing other apps so the app switcher is completely empty, 
turning the mini IPad off and on and nothing fixes it. My older SE phone, using 
the exact same updates, works fine.

Thank you.

Vicki

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Re: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

I never did get into VDR. I just got into the settings for VDR in the IOS
settings. VDR won't open at all, and I didn't use bookshare. I can send him the
note if I can't find the answer in a day or two. It's the strangest thing that
it would only happen on my Mini IPad 5 and not my phone.

Thank you for the address.

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:56 AM
Subject: RE: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

When you did get into VDR, did you re-login to Bookshare, assuming you were
using Bookshare?

His update a little while ago added Bookshare version 2 and that required
reentering one’s login information.

I have VDR working fine on my SE 2020 with the latest updates.

I am not sure what to recommend, other than the extreme step of deleting the
app and reinstalling it; which I know is a royal pain and may lose some
documents.

Also, writing winston directly at wins...@voicedream.com

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Vicki
W.
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:38 AM
To: IPhone
Subject: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

Hi,

1. Whenever I try to open VDR, it goes to my home screen. It shows up in the
app switcher, but I get the same result when I try to open it from there as
well. It simply will not allow me access.

2. When VDR appears to be running, my app switcher will not switch from one
app to another with the four-finger side swipe. It goes directly to my home
screen instead.

Thank you.

Vicki

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Re: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

2021-06-11 Thread Alex Stone

I don’t think she’s allowed into car at all, so she wouldn’t be able to do that.

Sent from my iPhone

On 11 Jun 2021, at 14:56, Richard Turner  wrote:


When you did get into VDR, did you re-login to Bookshare, assuming you were 
using Bookshare?
His update a little while ago added Bookshare version 2 and that required 
reentering one’s login information.

I have VDR working fine on my SE 2020 with the latest updates.
I am not sure what to recommend, other than the extreme step of deleting the 
app and reinstalling it; which I know is a royal pain and may lose some 
documents.
Also, writing winston directly at 
wins...@voicedream.com



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:38 AM
To: IPhone 
Subject: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

Hi,

I have a problem with Voice Dream Reader on my mini IPad five since the last 
update of IOS and the VDR app. I usually make sure everything is working before 
I update something else, but, of course, I was in a hurry and updated IOS first 
and then my apps shortly after that without at least checking those apps which 
I use every day. All of my other apps are working fine, but VDR is broken! 
Below is a list of things that are happening.

1. Whenever I try to open VDR, it goes to my home screen. It shows up in the 
app switcher, but I get the same result when I try to open it from there as 
well. It simply will not allow me access.

2. When VDR appears to be running, my app switcher will not switch from one app 
to another with the four-finger side swipe. It goes directly to my home screen 
instead.

3. If I have several apps running in the app switcher, including VDR, when I 
close one, VDR just vanishes as if it wasn't ever there and at that point my 
app switcher will work properly with the other apps.

4. If I open IOS settings, go into VDR settings, it seems as though it is 
functioning as far as accessing the settings in the IOS settings. However, if I 
close IOS settings, when I reopen it, instead of opening up the last setting I 
was checking, as it has always done, it won't open VDR settings, but opens the 
previous one I was checking instead.

Anyone have any suggestions? I've tried looking at every setting I can think 
of, opening and closing other apps so the app switcher is completely empty, 
turning the mini IPad off and on and nothing fixes it. My older SE phone, using 
the exact same updates, works fine.

Thank you.

Vicki

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RE: FaceTime on Android and Windows

2021-06-11 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

You don't hear of blind people or others for that matter running Safari on 
their PC because Safari does not exist for Windows users.
Apart from that there is ltittle use in speculating until this is available and 
we can all try it.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 5:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: FaceTime on Android and Windows

Hm, maybe I'm missing something, but I don't think of Apple as having all that 
great a reputation of making simple, easy to use and accessible applications on 
other platforms. I still hear people complaining about iTunes on Windows. Last 
I knew, iCloud on the PC also wasn't the most accessible application either. I 
don't hear of many blind people running Safari on their PC's. Sorry, but I'm 
still skeptical! 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 3:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FaceTime on Android and Windows

I am pretty sure it won't be all that complicated hell apple is not known for 
being overly complicated anyways.

On 6/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Joshua,
> Do you have an extra crystal ball I could borrow? You seem to know 
> something works easier before its competition has even been released.
> I know people who have torn their hair out over trying to share a 
> video over Zoom.
> Time will tell if Apple's share play works any better, but that cannot 
> be known until it is released.
>
>
> Richard
>
>
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
>
> On Jun 10, 2021, at 6:14 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>
> I'll just stick with zoom or skype on my computer.  They both just 
> work easier.
>
> On 6/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Well, we have only heard that it is a planned feature; no info about 
> implementation, accessibility, or anything; so being skeptical makes 
> perfect sense.
> I'm sure once public beta testing begins, there will be more details 
> around on the web concerning this.
>
> Just the fact that Apple is looking at a way to provide access to 
> non-Apple devices to FaceTime calls is worth taking note of.
>
> If this works well, it could replace Skype and Zoom and a few other 
> things if the screen sharing and all work as planned.
>
> A big if, but possibly very good.
>
>
>
> Richard
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 4:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: FaceTime on Android and Windows
>
> I'm not sure how much this will open up the video conferencing world 
> since there are already so many options to choose from. Also, as a 
> blind person, I find using an application is generally preferable over 
> using the web interface, so I'm a bit skeptical of joining a Facetime 
> video conference through my browser on Windows or Android.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 9:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: FaceTime on Android and Windows
>
> Yes this was mentioned and the connection on android and windows 
> devices is to be done through the web browsers on the non apple devices.
> Which to me is going to open the video conferencing world up so much 
> more now that facetime can be used on multiple platforms.
> Rather than everyone relying on the likes of zoom.
>
> It appeared to me that the majority of the features to come, Have 
> really been pushed by what has happened world wide with the covid 
> lockdowns and more and mrore people working from home or more remote 
> locations than in the office.
>
>
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> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, 10 June 2021 1:19 pm
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> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: FaceTime on Android and Windows
>

RE: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

When you did get into VDR, did you re-login to Bookshare, assuming you were 
using Bookshare?
His update a little while ago added Bookshare version 2 and that required 
reentering one's login information.

I have VDR working fine on my SE 2020 with the latest updates.
I am not sure what to recommend, other than the extreme step of deleting the 
app and reinstalling it; which I know is a royal pain and may lose some 
documents.
Also, writing winston directly at 
wins...@voicedream.com



Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:38 AM
To: IPhone 
Subject: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader

Hi,

I have a problem with Voice Dream Reader on my mini IPad five since the last 
update of IOS and the VDR app. I usually make sure everything is working before 
I update something else, but, of course, I was in a hurry and updated IOS first 
and then my apps shortly after that without at least checking those apps which 
I use every day. All of my other apps are working fine, but VDR is broken! 
Below is a list of things that are happening.

1. Whenever I try to open VDR, it goes to my home screen. It shows up in the 
app switcher, but I get the same result when I try to open it from there as 
well. It simply will not allow me access.

2. When VDR appears to be running, my app switcher will not switch from one app 
to another with the four-finger side swipe. It goes directly to my home screen 
instead.

3. If I have several apps running in the app switcher, including VDR, when I 
close one, VDR just vanishes as if it wasn't ever there and at that point my 
app switcher will work properly with the other apps.

4. If I open IOS settings, go into VDR settings, it seems as though it is 
functioning as far as accessing the settings in the IOS settings. However, if I 
close IOS settings, when I reopen it, instead of opening up the last setting I 
was checking, as it has always done, it won't open VDR settings, but opens the 
previous one I was checking instead.

Anyone have any suggestions? I've tried looking at every setting I can think 
of, opening and closing other apps so the app switcher is completely empty, 
turning the mini IPad off and on and nothing fixes it. My older SE phone, using 
the exact same updates, works fine.

Thank you.

Vicki

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