Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Last chance - 'Backstage Pass' in Sydney this Friday
On 26/03/2009, at 8:00 PM, Peter Jeremy wrote: There was a spike of activity in some of the 'A' importance items immediately after the tour but everything seems to have stalled again. Has the PhM come through with any of the material (photos and lists) that we were interested in? -- Peter Jeremy ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l Heya Peter, yes - there is lots of activity happening behind the scenes from their end. I got an email from Matthew Connell just the other day updating me. Here are a couple of things he said: "Seb today asked me to let you know he has submitted a paper to our Executive seeking copyright status changes to aspects of our collection records. Its been circulated and discussed quite a bit but its on its way." "It was great to meet you guys and to see you do your stuff. Seb Paula and I reported at our big team meeting on the Monday morning. Unfortunately we've been head down in Stratgic planning and budgeting ever since." So, they're working on it but it is not surprising for the first time that the museum releases the exclusive commercial right to their text/ photos it's going to be a difficult task. By working on these specific examples and integrating them well it will hopefully make things faster, easier in future cases - both with the Powerhouse and other institutions in Australia and abroad. From off the top of my head, this is the first time that a museum or gallery anywhere in the world has released their *in-copyright* intellectual property for Wikimedians to use - so it is a big step to take and would become a benchmark for the rest of the museum sector. I did forward to our friends at the PHM the pageview stats for our new article about their Boulton and Watt steam engine: http:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boulton_and_Watt_steam_engine_% 28Powerhouse_Museum%29 it received 1.7thousand views in its period on the "did you know" section of the Wikpedia main page. They know that now, and now so does their upper management, so that should help. Stats do wonders! I am particularly keen to be able to report some outcomes from the "Backstage Pass" at the upcoming Berlin Chapters meeting in a fortnight, so I too am hoping to get access to the text and photos we requested before that time. The Germans will be able to talk about their work getting their national archives to donate thousands of images to Commons, and the New Yorkers will be talking about the "Loves Art" event and we want to be able to show off too! ;-) Finally, there is the upcoming Wikimeetup that PrivateMusings suggested today - hopefully on Friday the 17th of April. It is probable that Brianna will be there coming up from Melb. so hopefully someone from PHM might be able to come along and share a pint with us too! Hope everyone is well, -Liam email: liamwy...@gmail.com mobile: 0434 056 914 skype: wittylama wikipedia: [[user:witty lama]] ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Last chance - 'Backstage Pass' in Sydney this Friday
There was a spike of activity in some of the 'A' importance items immediately after the tour but everything seems to have stalled again. Has the PhM come through with any of the material (photos and lists) that we were interested in? -- Peter Jeremy pgpDJLu069KTh.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Last chance - 'Backstage Pass' in Sydney this Friday
Awesome work, folks! Let me know when the pictures are out :) I hope we can do our own version of this in New York City one day with a "Mollusc-a-thon" in the back shelves of the local natural history museum. Thanks, Pharos On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Nick Jenkins wrote: > Hi all, > > Just a quick note to say that we had a great time on Friday at the > Powerhouse Museum in Sydney, and it was very interesting. > > Quick description of what happened for those that could not attend: > > We met outside the museum shortly after 10 AM, were greeted by curators, > and went to the Museum's café, and the curators from the different areas > introduced themselves and shouted us teas/coffees, and we chatted a bit > and they were very friendly and open. Also explained were the > concerns/issues with photographing both people (e.g. they got us all to > sign release-forms before taking any of our pictures) and pictures of > things (moral rights of the creators, something I was not aware of). > Because of this, I didn't feel it was appropriate for us to take > pictures, so sorry, but to the best my knowledge there are no photos of > the event taken by Wikipedians (although there may be some that appear > on one of the Powerhouse blogs this week, taken by the imaging/media > part of the museum). > > Then we (probably around 9 or 10 Wikipedians were present + 3 or 4 > curators + 2 media/imaging people) went through the public area of the > museum for about a hour and were given a tour with explanations of the > background and significance of some of the major items. Then we went to > the backstage area, in an adjacent building, where some of the items > that are not on public display are held. We saw Mawson's sled in a photo > studio, and one level down saw a wide variety of items, including > historic clothes (some of which were around 200 years old, but which > were stored in such ideal conditions that they looked brand new / in > mint condition), telecommunications/telegraph items, and historical > medical equipment (bleeding kits, surgeon's kits), and many other items. > > Then we had lunch, which they again shouted us, and chatted a bit. Also > a reporter from Triple-J interviewed some people for a story they are > working on for the "Hack" program about Wiki-edit-wars. Then in the > afternoon most people went to a meeting room, and discussed things, such > as licensing issues (Q: what licence should be used for images if the > Powerhouse wanted to try releasing a few images for use on the > wikipedia? A: Suggested CC-By-SA), and so forth; and a few people went > to the cafeteria and worked on articles for items we had seen. In the > meeting room we only had one computer on a projector, and we > collectively edited a few items (e.g. history of the Powerhouse Museum), > and made a list of possible images to request, and so forth. More > detailed notes & links to discussed articles and requested images & so > forth are available at: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Sydney/Powerhouse_Museum_2009-03-13 > > We wound up around 4:30 PM. It was very interesting, and the amount of > material and knowledge (at the museum, in the heads of the curators, and > in the internal databases at the museum) is truly vast; but the issues > that are being grappled with seemed (from my perspective) to be how to > fulfil the museum's mission in an increasing online environment, how > that relates to the wikipedia and finding areas where there's a good > synergy and commonality of purpose, and also questions and complexity of > licensing (for images of items and details about items), and all the > cultural issues of interfacing the two different cultures and ways of > operating. > > I thought it was a very positive day, and I left very much with the > impression that these were good people who genuinely wanted to help. > > A big thank you to the all curators, such as Matthew Connell, for > showing us around and being such great hosts, and a big thank you to > Liam & co for organising this. > > -- All the best, > Nick. > > > ___ > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Last chance - 'Backstage Pass' in Sydney this Friday
Hi all, Just a quick note to say that we had a great time on Friday at the Powerhouse Museum in Sydney, and it was very interesting. Quick description of what happened for those that could not attend: We met outside the museum shortly after 10 AM, were greeted by curators, and went to the Museum's café, and the curators from the different areas introduced themselves and shouted us teas/coffees, and we chatted a bit and they were very friendly and open. Also explained were the concerns/issues with photographing both people (e.g. they got us all to sign release-forms before taking any of our pictures) and pictures of things (moral rights of the creators, something I was not aware of). Because of this, I didn't feel it was appropriate for us to take pictures, so sorry, but to the best my knowledge there are no photos of the event taken by Wikipedians (although there may be some that appear on one of the Powerhouse blogs this week, taken by the imaging/media part of the museum). Then we (probably around 9 or 10 Wikipedians were present + 3 or 4 curators + 2 media/imaging people) went through the public area of the museum for about a hour and were given a tour with explanations of the background and significance of some of the major items. Then we went to the backstage area, in an adjacent building, where some of the items that are not on public display are held. We saw Mawson's sled in a photo studio, and one level down saw a wide variety of items, including historic clothes (some of which were around 200 years old, but which were stored in such ideal conditions that they looked brand new / in mint condition), telecommunications/telegraph items, and historical medical equipment (bleeding kits, surgeon's kits), and many other items. Then we had lunch, which they again shouted us, and chatted a bit. Also a reporter from Triple-J interviewed some people for a story they are working on for the "Hack" program about Wiki-edit-wars. Then in the afternoon most people went to a meeting room, and discussed things, such as licensing issues (Q: what licence should be used for images if the Powerhouse wanted to try releasing a few images for use on the wikipedia? A: Suggested CC-By-SA), and so forth; and a few people went to the cafeteria and worked on articles for items we had seen. In the meeting room we only had one computer on a projector, and we collectively edited a few items (e.g. history of the Powerhouse Museum), and made a list of possible images to request, and so forth. More detailed notes & links to discussed articles and requested images & so forth are available at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Sydney/Powerhouse_Museum_2009-03-13 We wound up around 4:30 PM. It was very interesting, and the amount of material and knowledge (at the museum, in the heads of the curators, and in the internal databases at the museum) is truly vast; but the issues that are being grappled with seemed (from my perspective) to be how to fulfil the museum's mission in an increasing online environment, how that relates to the wikipedia and finding areas where there's a good synergy and commonality of purpose, and also questions and complexity of licensing (for images of items and details about items), and all the cultural issues of interfacing the two different cultures and ways of operating. I thought it was a very positive day, and I left very much with the impression that these were good people who genuinely wanted to help. A big thank you to the all curators, such as Matthew Connell, for showing us around and being such great hosts, and a big thank you to Liam & co for organising this. -- All the best, Nick. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Last chance - 'Backstage Pass' in Sydney this Friday
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Liam Wyatt wrote: > Well I look forward to seeing you there! Does that mean that Cary (and > therefore the foundation office are aware of the event?) don't feel > pressured to come along - like everything else in the wiki-verse you > can't force people to be interested in something. So if it's not your > cup of tea and you feel "railroaded" I won't hold it against you if > you're not coming. It would be great if you did, of course! Just don't > feel pressured to do so. Don't worry, I'm mostly joking. Perhaps 'convinced' is a better word. -- Andrew Garrett ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Last chance - 'Backstage Pass' in Sydney this Friday
Well I look forward to seeing you there! Does that mean that Cary (and therefore the foundation office are aware of the event?) don't feel pressured to come along - like everything else in the wiki-verse you can't force people to be interested in something. So if it's not your cup of tea and you feel "railroaded" I won't hold it against you if you're not coming. It would be great if you did, of course! Just don't feel pressured to do so. best, - Liam On 12/03/2009, at 11:37, Andrew Garrett wrote: > Brianna and Cary have railroaded me into coming along. I'll see you > tomorrow! (bah, have to wake up before 9) > > 2009/3/11 Liam Wyatt : >> Ladies and Gentlemen! >> >> This is a final call for participants at the first “Backstage Pass >> ” tour to >> be held by Wikimedia Australia in Sydney THIS FRIDAY @ 10am. Our >> hosts for >> the day are the Powerhouse Museum who now have upwards of 5 of their >> curators coming along to show us around. >> >> To find out more please visit: http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Backstage_pass >> >> There are places available if you can still come along. We will be >> meeting >> on the forecourt then a personalised “access all areas” tour for >> a couple of >> hours, lunch, then editing for a couple of hours afterwards. >> >> If you are in the area and would like to come, please add your name >> or >> contact me so that we know to wait for you. And don’t forget your >> laptop to >> help out afterwards if you can. This is the first chance Wikimedians >> anywhere in the world have had to get privileged access to an >> institution >> and its experts. It will also be the first time that our content >> has been >> written around the one table at the same time. So it’s a bit of an >> experiment in two ways. >> >> The Powerhouse Museum is very interested to see how we can take their >> knowledge and publicise it to the world - so let’s show them what >> ‘Wikimedians in the real world’ can achieve. >> >> Looking forward to seeing as many people as can make it, >> >> - Liam >> >> -- >> Email - liamwy...@gmail.com >> Phone - +61 (0)434 056 914 >> Skype - Wittylama >> Wikipedia - [[User:Witty lama]] >> ___ >> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >> Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >> >> > > > > -- > Andrew Garrett > > ___ > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Last chance - 'Backstage Pass' in Sydney this Friday
Brianna and Cary have railroaded me into coming along. I'll see you tomorrow! (bah, have to wake up before 9) 2009/3/11 Liam Wyatt : > Ladies and Gentlemen! > > This is a final call for participants at the first “Backstage Pass” tour to > be held by Wikimedia Australia in Sydney THIS FRIDAY @ 10am. Our hosts for > the day are the Powerhouse Museum who now have upwards of 5 of their > curators coming along to show us around. > > To find out more please visit: http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Backstage_pass > > There are places available if you can still come along. We will be meeting > on the forecourt then a personalised “access all areas” tour for a couple of > hours, lunch, then editing for a couple of hours afterwards. > > If you are in the area and would like to come, please add your name or > contact me so that we know to wait for you. And don’t forget your laptop to > help out afterwards if you can. This is the first chance Wikimedians > anywhere in the world have had to get privileged access to an institution > and its experts. It will also be the first time that our content has been > written around the one table at the same time. So it’s a bit of an > experiment in two ways. > > The Powerhouse Museum is very interested to see how we can take their > knowledge and publicise it to the world - so let’s show them what > ‘Wikimedians in the real world’ can achieve. > > Looking forward to seeing as many people as can make it, > > - Liam > > -- > Email - liamwy...@gmail.com > Phone - +61 (0)434 056 914 > Skype - Wittylama > Wikipedia - [[User:Witty lama]] > ___ > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > > -- Andrew Garrett ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Last chance - 'Backstage Pass' in Sydney this Friday
Hi all I have been called down to Melbourne to work for a week, starting tomorrow morning, so have to now pull out from Friday's excursion. Absolutely gutted I am missing out on this opportunity - I will take my name off the list on the Wiki event page. I hope someone can replace me at this late notice.. so sorry I am pulling out so late. Hopefully it is a cracker of a day. Sam 2009/3/11 Liam Wyatt > Ladies and Gentlemen! > This is a final call for participants at the first “Backstage Pass” tour to > be held by *Wikimedia Australia* in Sydney THIS FRIDAY @ 10am. Our hosts > for the day are the *Powerhouse** Museum* who now have upwards of 5 of > their curators coming along to show us around. > > To find out more please visit: http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Backstage_pass > > There are places available if you can still come along. We will be meeting > on the forecourt then a personalised “access all areas” tour for a couple of > hours, lunch, then editing for a couple of hours afterwards. > > If you are in the area and would like to come, please add your name or > contact me so that we know to wait for you. And don’t forget your laptop to > help out afterwards if you can. This is the first chance Wikimedians > anywhere in the world have had to get privileged access to an institution > and its experts. It will also be the first time that our content has been > written around the one table at the same time. So it’s a bit of an > experiment in two ways. > > The *Powerhouse** Museum** *is very interested to see how we can take > their knowledge and publicise it to the world - so let’s show them what > ‘Wikimedians in the real world’ can achieve. > > Looking forward to seeing as many people as can make it, > > - Liam > -- > Email - liamwy...@gmail.com > Phone - +61 (0)434 056 914 > Skype - Wittylama > Wikipedia - [[User:Witty lama]] > ___ > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > > ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Last chance - 'Backstage Pass' in Sydney this Friday
Ladies and Gentlemen! This is a final call for participants at the first “Backstage Pass” tour to be held by *Wikimedia Australia* in Sydney THIS FRIDAY @ 10am. Our hosts for the day are the *Powerhouse** Museum* who now have upwards of 5 of their curators coming along to show us around. To find out more please visit: http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Backstage_pass There are places available if you can still come along. We will be meeting on the forecourt then a personalised “access all areas” tour for a couple of hours, lunch, then editing for a couple of hours afterwards. If you are in the area and would like to come, please add your name or contact me so that we know to wait for you. And don’t forget your laptop to help out afterwards if you can. This is the first chance Wikimedians anywhere in the world have had to get privileged access to an institution and its experts. It will also be the first time that our content has been written around the one table at the same time. So it’s a bit of an experiment in two ways. The *Powerhouse** Museum** *is very interested to see how we can take their knowledge and publicise it to the world - so let’s show them what ‘Wikimedians in the real world’ can achieve. Looking forward to seeing as many people as can make it, - Liam -- Email - liamwy...@gmail.com Phone - +61 (0)434 056 914 Skype - Wittylama Wikipedia - [[User:Witty lama]] ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
