Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter
/*Sorry, off topic */ Guru, I also miss many mails from the alias . Therefore I keep a track of this archive http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/ Thanks Tinu Cherian On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 6:59 PM, guru brahma wiki...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Hi, after sending this mail, I got the mails that I said were missing except the original mail by Praveen Prakash. Strange that newer mails come into the inbox before the older mails. Cheers, Srinivas Gunta. Unified login across all Wikimedia projects: Gurubrahma -- *From:* guru brahma wiki...@yahoo.co.in *To:* wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Sent:* Thu, 11 March, 2010 6:56:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter Hi, I haven't received some of the mails on this mailing list and I had to check back on the mail server to see those mails - the two mails by Praveen Prakash and the reply to one of them from Sundar and two mails from Shiju Alex are the ones I can recall quickly. I had to go back to the server as I missed the continuity. Does it have to do with some code in the messages? - I could not find them even in my bulk/ spam/ trash folders. Anyway, given that Meta is the coordination project for all Wikimedia projects, may I suggest that all the queries be directed at the relevant talkpages on Meta? The advantage is that it is easier to search, identify and track through history pages and the entire discussion is centralised at one place instead of multiple locations like this mailing list, IRC or telephone chats. Another advantage is that a user's comments stay there till perpetuity - letting us know his/ her perspectives and viewpoints over the years and the evolution therein. Hence, I suggest we start discussing the Wikimedia India Chapter at either of http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_India/MoA or http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_India. I, for one, would answer all the questions put forth to me on that forum. Thanks for all the support and encouragement. Cheers, Srinivas Gunta. Unified login across all Wikimedia projects: Gurubrahma P.S. It may not be a bad idea for all of us using the mailing list to give our primary wikispace or unified login at the end of each message we send - I shd probably make it my signature. -- *From:* Hari Prasad Nadig hpna...@gmail.com *To:* wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Sent:* Thu, 11 March, 2010 5:31:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote: It will be good if all the other committee members introduce themselves to *Indic language* wiki community. Shiju, Most of the members have user pages on the respective Wikipedias and sister projects and their work speaks for themselves. I don't think there is a necessity for all committee members to separately introduce themselves here on this mailing list unless ofcourse they themselves like to. I'm also quite surprised at the constant 'bold' or 'highlight' on words on emails exchanged this list. Nevertheless, people who've not known me till now, can find more about me at: http://kn.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:HPNadig http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:HPN http://sa.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:HPN More about me is here: http://hpnadig.net/about And I also happen to be the moderator of this list. -- Hari Prasad Nadig http://hpnadig.net | http://twitter.com/hpnadig http://flickr.com/hpnadig -- The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepagehttp://in.rd.yahoo.com/tagline_yyi_1/*http://in.yahoo.com/ . -- Your Mail works best with the New Yahoo Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!http://in.rd.yahoo.com/tagline_ie8_new/*http://downloads.yahoo.com/in/internetexplorer/ . ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter
arjuna rao chavala wrote: 2010/3/11 Praveen Prakash me.prav...@gmail.com I don't consider members or membership. I am not devaluing commitment or hardwork. I am thinking about lack of openness. You guys must know (may know well) the level of Indic language involvement in meta. Why didn't this list? besides I've not seen any comment about a Wikimedia Indic Chapter in linked meta-talkpages also. And that linkedin page made me to believe there is something subterranean I have given linkedin profile, as that is the most comprehensive page available for me accessible to all. I provided the same in the spirit of full disclosure. If you have specific questions, I will be happy to respond. K. Then who is Kiruba Shankar? What was the election process criteria? How many people involved in that? Why all these process were hidden? Why even Hindi not informed? Thanks Arjun ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Praveen Prakashnbsp;lt;me.prav...@gmail.comgt;nbsp;wrote: K. Then who is Kiruba Shankar?nbsp; What was the election process amp; criteria? How many people involved in that? Why all these process were hidden? Why even Hindi not informed? This is what I'm wondering about too! I think this process should be more inclusive and transparent! Who decided the list of founding members (Signatories) mentioned on this page http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India/MoA#WIKIMEDIA_INDIA? And how was this list decided? How come Gautam K John (who is self-admittedly not involved with Wikipedia) was invited to be a founding member, but someone like User:Bhadani was not? Why is some like HPN who has not made even 100 edits in 2009 and 2010 to English, Kannada and Sanskrit Wikipedias combined together is at the forefront of this initiative, but some of the most important contributors from Indic wikipedias are not even a part of this? I'm all for a Wikimedia India chapter, but it should be a group of all the people who are actually part of the Wikipedia community! It should not be a bunch of politicians that want to be face of Wikipedia to the Indian media without having made any substantial contributions to Wikipedia. Wikimedia India will receive thousands of rupees in donations. We need trusted people who are representative of the pan-India Wikipedia community to handle it. If this is a group of people who are meeting in Bangalore for wining and dining, this should be named Wikimedia Bangalore chapter, not Wikipedia INDIA chapter! Best regards Shahid ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Shahid Akhtar mohd.shahid_akh...@rediffmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Praveen Prakash me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: K. Then who is Kiruba Shankar? What was the election process criteria? How many people involved in that? Why all these process were hidden? Why even Hindi not informed? This is what I'm wondering about too! I think this process should be more inclusive and transparent! I'm all for a Wikimedia India chapter, but it should be a group of all the people who are actually part of the Wikipedia community! It should not be a bunch of politicians that want to be face of Wikipedia to the Indian media without having made any substantial contributions to Wikipedia. Wikimedia India will receive thousands of rupees in donations. We need trusted people who are representative of the pan-India Wikipedia community to handle it. If this is a group of people who are meeting in Bangalore for wining and dining, this should be named Wikimedia Bangalore chapter, not Wikipedia INDIA chapter! *My Few paisas.* As to my understanding after reading the MoA, there are no special privileges to founding members apart from not requiring to apply for membership.[Authors can clarify if my understanding is not right] I suppose there would be an election after the formation and only the elected persons will have additional privileges than a normal member. So in that sense, who starts it really doesn't matter. I dont know why people are cribbing its secret / closed group when meta was up all the while. Did anyone make a point to edit any of the meta pages and was it left undiscussed / discarded? No one stopped anyone from doing that. Trust is not measured in terms of edit count.Showing up on the day and commitment in real world is also required and I guess the people who signed the MoA did that. I agree with pan-India comment but again elections would happen I guess and as i already mentioned founding members dont get any extra privileges. Probably some clause can be added to include regional / linugual EC members.I would add that right away to discussion page. Sorry i take the wine and dine comment too seriously. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:MBL is not about wine and dine. Please go through the pages to see what was going on the meetings. -- Regards Srikanth.L http://j.mp/SrikanthL ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter
Hi Arjun, I thought comments are welcome before 13th March Saturday..Meetup is on Sunday. ;) I have added that on the Meetup Agenda btw, if the concerned parties are available on the day. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Bangalore/Bangalore12#Agenda Regards Tinu Cherian On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:25 AM, arjuna rao chavala arjunar...@googlemail.com wrote: Tinu, Can you explore having a Sabsebolo conf id (free version limits 10 callers) and an IRC chat/tweet session during the Bangalore meet up, so that people could participate from where ever they may be to give their feedback and/or participate in the discussion? Regards Arjun 2010/3/11 CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com Congratulations to all Indian Wikipedians on this milestone step. Btw when can we expect the chapter be officially constituted ? Regards Tinu Cherian On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:08 AM, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.comwrote: Please also spread the word in all Indian language wikis including the English Wiki noticeboard. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture -- *From:* Hari Prasad Nadig hpna...@gmail.com *To:* Wikimedia India List wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Sent:* Wed, March 10, 2010 8:22:42 AM *Subject:* [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter Dear all, As Srikanth has already noticed in an earlier e-mail, the draft Memoranda of Association for the proposed Wikimedia India Chapter has been put up on Meta here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India/MoA Even as the team working on the current draft has spent the better part of a year working on it, I am sure that there would be scope for improvement. Please provide your invaluable comments and suggestions on the relevant talk page: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_India/MoA. However, given the time we have spent on the document, it is important that we proceed quickly and hence, I suggest that the comments be made on or before this Saturday, the 13th of March 2010. Let us maintain the Wiki-etiquette expected out of us during the discussion. People curious about the earlier and the current efforts at forming the India chapter may find my blog post on it, http://hpnadig.net/blog/2010/03/08/wikimedia-india/563 a complimenting read. More on Wikimedia India chapter can be seen on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India. Let us look forward to a great response in discussing and debating the MoA of the proposed Wikimedia India chapter. -- Hari Prasad Nadig http://hpnadig.net | http://twitter.com/hpnadig http://flickr.com/hpnadig ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
