Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
What do they charge for this? Scottie - Original Message - From: Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:51 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. Currently we are running our email services on an out of production email server that is no longer supported and behind a Barracuda SF for spam protection. It is causing more problems than it's worth. If it were up to me I'd have everyone switch to gmail or something like that but of course people don't like to change their email addresses. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
Love it. Couldn't expect a better service. HTTP://goinx.com On 1/6/09, Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. Currently we are running our email services on an out of production email server that is no longer supported and behind a Barracuda SF for spam protection. It is causing more problems than it's worth. If it were up to me I'd have everyone switch to gmail or something like that but of course people don't like to change their email addresses. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
So where do you go to sign up? __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs Love it. Couldn't expect a better service. HTTP://goinx.com On 1/6/09, Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. Currently we are running our email services on an out of production email server that is no longer supported and behind a Barracuda SF for spam protection. It is causing more problems than it's worth. If it were up to me I'd have everyone switch to gmail or something like that but of course people don't like to change their email addresses. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. Currently we are running our email services on an out of production email server that is no longer supported and behind a Barracuda SF for spam protection. It is causing more problems than it's worth. If it were up to me I'd have everyone switch to gmail or something like that but of course people don't like to change their email addresses. Have you considered reselling googles Internet service as well? Its based on fiber. http://www.google.com/tisp/ Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
I mean this sincerely - I just googled it and found it. Try looking for google apps partner edition On 1/6/09, Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: So where do you go to sign up? __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs Love it. Couldn't expect a better service. HTTP://goinx.com On 1/6/09, Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. Currently we are running our email services on an out of production email server that is no longer supported and behind a Barracuda SF for spam protection. It is causing more problems than it's worth. If it were up to me I'd have everyone switch to gmail or something like that but of course people don't like to change their email addresses. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
If you only host your OWN domain, this looks like a good solution. If you host your CUSTOMER's domains, it is not, at least when I researched it before we went with Everyone.Net. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:51 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. Currently we are running our email services on an out of production email server that is no longer supported and behind a Barracuda SF for spam protection. It is causing more problems than it's worth. If it were up to me I'd have everyone switch to gmail or something like that but of course people don't like to change their email addresses. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
For the customer's domain we use Google Apps as well. Case in point, imaginenetworksllc.com - my.imaginenetworksllc.com or mail.imaginenetworksllc.com On 1/6/09, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: If you only host your OWN domain, this looks like a good solution. If you host your CUSTOMER's domains, it is not, at least when I researched it before we went with Everyone.Net. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:51 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. Currently we are running our email services on an out of production email server that is no longer supported and behind a Barracuda SF for spam protection. It is causing more problems than it's worth. If it were up to me I'd have everyone switch to gmail or something like that but of course people don't like to change their email addresses. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. If I were starting a new outfit today, I'd probably just let them do all the hard work, and host all my users' email. Domain names and Web hosting are dirt-cheap, and if you want to be just an Internet access provider, not doing any hosting and having relatively little server-room-type infrastructure, it's a good way to save a few bucks. For a pre-existing outfit, though, migrating to Google Apps could be tricky. For us, the one really big stumbling block was the fact that most of our users use POP3 and something like Outlook Express or Thunderbird. When last I looked into this, the Google Apps API wouldn't let you enable POP3 and IMAP automatically. We'd have been forced to have someone manually log into every mailbox and turn that on. (They said it was to force users to accept their TOS, but I can't escape the feeling that Google wants people to use the Web interface because that's where the ads are; forcing that initial login gives them a free shot at showing you the Gmail interface, which admittedly is awfully attractive.) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
What I do is ask them to use the web interface and give one of the many reasons why. If they simply say no or don't like it, I walk them through setting up one account with POP/IMAP on whatever client and then say you're on you're own for support as you introduce tons of viruses and malware when using those clients. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:35 AM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. If I were starting a new outfit today, I'd probably just let them do all the hard work, and host all my users' email. Domain names and Web hosting are dirt-cheap, and if you want to be just an Internet access provider, not doing any hosting and having relatively little server-room-type infrastructure, it's a good way to save a few bucks. For a pre-existing outfit, though, migrating to Google Apps could be tricky. For us, the one really big stumbling block was the fact that most of our users use POP3 and something like Outlook Express or Thunderbird. When last I looked into this, the Google Apps API wouldn't let you enable POP3 and IMAP automatically. We'd have been forced to have someone manually log into every mailbox and turn that on. (They said it was to force users to accept their TOS, but I can't escape the feeling that Google wants people to use the Web interface because that's where the ads are; forcing that initial login gives them a free shot at showing you the Gmail interface, which admittedly is awfully attractive.) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
http://www.google.com/a/help/intl/en/partners/index.html On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. Currently we are running our email services on an out of production email server that is no longer supported and behind a Barracuda SF for spam protection. It is causing more problems than it's worth. If it were up to me I'd have everyone switch to gmail or something like that but of course people don't like to change their email addresses. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
Looks like it. It was all automated when we did it - never contacted someone from Google. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Adam Goodman a...@wispring.com wrote: http://www.google.com/a/help/intl/en/partners/index.html On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. Currently we are running our email services on an out of production email server that is no longer supported and behind a Barracuda SF for spam protection. It is causing more problems than it's worth. If it were up to me I'd have everyone switch to gmail or something like that but of course people don't like to change their email addresses. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
I don't know if it is because we use the premier edition but POP3 or IMAP is turned on automatically by checking POP3 or IMAP twice in a row. The first time if fails but the second time it succeeds, no logging into the account manually. Thanks, _ /-\ ndrew On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:35 AM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. If I were starting a new outfit today, I'd probably just let them do all the hard work, and host all my users' email. Domain names and Web hosting are dirt-cheap, and if you want to be just an Internet access provider, not doing any hosting and having relatively little server-room-type infrastructure, it's a good way to save a few bucks. For a pre-existing outfit, though, migrating to Google Apps could be tricky. For us, the one really big stumbling block was the fact that most of our users use POP3 and something like Outlook Express or Thunderbird. When last I looked into this, the Google Apps API wouldn't let you enable POP3 and IMAP automatically. We'd have been forced to have someone manually log into every mailbox and turn that on. (They said it was to force users to accept their TOS, but I can't escape the feeling that Google wants people to use the Web interface because that's where the ads are; forcing that initial login gives them a free shot at showing you the Gmail interface, which admittedly is awfully attractive.) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
Never heard that before. I always assumed that you have to give Gmail time to propagate the enabling of the IMAP or POP services. I can't stand local clients anymore so my experience is pretty limited. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Andrew Niemantsverdriet andrewniema...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if it is because we use the premier edition but POP3 or IMAP is turned on automatically by checking POP3 or IMAP twice in a row. The first time if fails but the second time it succeeds, no logging into the account manually. Thanks, _ /-\ ndrew On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:35 AM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. If I were starting a new outfit today, I'd probably just let them do all the hard work, and host all my users' email. Domain names and Web hosting are dirt-cheap, and if you want to be just an Internet access provider, not doing any hosting and having relatively little server-room-type infrastructure, it's a good way to save a few bucks. For a pre-existing outfit, though, migrating to Google Apps could be tricky. For us, the one really big stumbling block was the fact that most of our users use POP3 and something like Outlook Express or Thunderbird. When last I looked into this, the Google Apps API wouldn't let you enable POP3 and IMAP automatically. We'd have been forced to have someone manually log into every mailbox and turn that on. (They said it was to force users to accept their TOS, but I can't escape the feeling that Google wants people to use the Web interface because that's where the ads are; forcing that initial login gives them a free shot at showing you the Gmail interface, which admittedly is awfully attractive.) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
Using Google hosted email is ok, but, has some drawbacks. Namely the SSL cert and funky IMAP support. If it could be better integrated into a website (IE, into my.foo.com instead of google.com/a/my.foo.com) I would love it. Maybe that can be done with a better understanding of the Google API? While on the topic on Google Hosted, anyone using the GrandCentral Beta? Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. Currently we are running our email services on an out of production email server that is no longer supported and behind a Barracuda SF for spam protection. It is causing more problems than it's worth. If it were up to me I'd have everyone switch to gmail or something like that but of course people don't like to change their email addresses. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
Only problem is that according to what Google said at the last ISPCon they are not doing it for free anymore. :-( -Layne Layne Sisk ServerPlus From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Patrick Nix Jr. Sent: Tue 1/6/2009 8:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. Currently we are running our email services on an out of production email server that is no longer supported and behind a Barracuda SF for spam protection. It is causing more problems than it's worth. If it were up to me I'd have everyone switch to gmail or something like that but of course people don't like to change their email addresses. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ winmail.dat WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
I don't think you have to contact them if you are going to use the standard plan. We didn't. Adam On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Looks like it. It was all automated when we did it - never contacted someone from Google. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Adam Goodman a...@wispring.com wrote: http://www.google.com/a/help/intl/en/partners/index.html On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. Currently we are running our email services on an out of production email server that is no longer supported and behind a Barracuda SF for spam protection. It is causing more problems than it's worth. If it were up to me I'd have everyone switch to gmail or something like that but of course people don't like to change their email addresses. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
For the partner edition I didn't. Neither the standard for my customers. I am doing premier at the time of this writing and have not spoken with anyone. On 1/6/09, Adam Goodman a...@wispring.com wrote: I don't think you have to contact them if you are going to use the standard plan. We didn't. Adam On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Looks like it. It was all automated when we did it - never contacted someone from Google. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Adam Goodman a...@wispring.com wrote: http://www.google.com/a/help/intl/en/partners/index.html On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. Currently we are running our email services on an out of production email server that is no longer supported and behind a Barracuda SF for spam protection. It is causing more problems than it's worth. If it were up to me I'd have everyone switch to gmail or something like that but of course people don't like to change their email addresses. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
As a ENET distributor, I'll agree with Mark. After testing various hosted services for 18 months, I decided on ENET back in 2006. For a hosted service I feel it is the best all around email service you can offer your customers. We use ENET mostly for backup continuity and for clients looking for a less expensive alternative to in-house Exchange, or hosted Exchange. We have the full compliment to offer, IMAP, POP3, Webmail and a customizable portal. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Google Security Services Distributor- Powered by Postini www.SecureEmailPlus.com 800-246-7740 - Toll Free 630-258-7422 - Direct - Original Message - From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs If you only host your OWN domain, this looks like a good solution. If you host your CUSTOMER's domains, it is not, at least when I researched it before we went with Everyone.Net. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:51 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. Currently we are running our email services on an out of production email server that is no longer supported and behind a Barracuda SF for spam protection. It is causing more problems than it's worth. If it were up to me I'd have everyone switch to gmail or something like that but of course people don't like to change their email addresses. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
The ENET customizable portal is really cool. You can customize just about everything you want about the look feel of the webmail interface. You can give your customers admin access to their own domain as well, while you still control system-wide settings. We moved 3 servers into their service over the last few months with over 1000 accounts, and we are so far happy with it. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Frank Muto frank.m...@secureemailplus.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs As a ENET distributor, I'll agree with Mark. After testing various hosted services for 18 months, I decided on ENET back in 2006. For a hosted service I feel it is the best all around email service you can offer your customers. We use ENET mostly for backup continuity and for clients looking for a less expensive alternative to in-house Exchange, or hosted Exchange. We have the full compliment to offer, IMAP, POP3, Webmail and a customizable portal. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Google Security Services Distributor- Powered by Postini www.SecureEmailPlus.com 800-246-7740 - Toll Free 630-258-7422 - Direct - Original Message - From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs If you only host your OWN domain, this looks like a good solution. If you host your CUSTOMER's domains, it is not, at least when I researched it before we went with Everyone.Net. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:51 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. Currently we are running our email services on an out of production email server that is no longer supported and behind a Barracuda SF for spam protection. It is causing more problems than it's worth. If it were up to me I'd have everyone switch to gmail or something like that but of course people don't like to change their email addresses. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
Frank Muto wrote: As a ENET distributor, I'll agree with Mark. After testing various hosted services for 18 months, I decided on ENET back in 2006. For a hosted service I feel it is the best all around email service you can offer your customers. We use ENET mostly for backup continuity and for clients looking for a less expensive alternative to in-house Exchange, or hosted Exchange. We have the full compliment to offer, IMAP, POP3, Webmail and a customizable portal. A personal project of mine, several years ago, involved a clever domain name and giving away free email addresses. At the time, I picked everyone.net to do this, because in mid-2000 they were just about the only ones doing it. Their Webmail interface was horribly clunky even at the time, and IMAP/POP3 were an extra twenty bucks per user, per year. (And they missed no opportunity to try to bug your end-users about that. For a while, you had to click through the upgrade now screen with every login.) The ridiculous number of Flash ads with sound, pop-ups, pop-unders, and at least one alleged attempt to drive-by install spyware on a user's PC in '05 (wasn't my computer, so I can't verify it) drove me batty. Oh, and every time I got close to them owing me money as part of the ad-sharing, the cutoff before they'd send you a check mysteriously went up. They still owe me almost $100 that I expect I'll never see. Keep in mind, though, this was for their free service; maybe the paid email hosting service is better. As with any service, when you can, try before you buy. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
We are not using their free service. I usually don't use free services. I am of the mindset that you get what you pay for. Sometimes you luck out and there are success stories, but by and large I steer clear of unpaid services. I feel that you always pay, somehow. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs Frank Muto wrote: As a ENET distributor, I'll agree with Mark. After testing various hosted services for 18 months, I decided on ENET back in 2006. For a hosted service I feel it is the best all around email service you can offer your customers. We use ENET mostly for backup continuity and for clients looking for a less expensive alternative to in-house Exchange, or hosted Exchange. We have the full compliment to offer, IMAP, POP3, Webmail and a customizable portal. A personal project of mine, several years ago, involved a clever domain name and giving away free email addresses. At the time, I picked everyone.net to do this, because in mid-2000 they were just about the only ones doing it. Their Webmail interface was horribly clunky even at the time, and IMAP/POP3 were an extra twenty bucks per user, per year. (And they missed no opportunity to try to bug your end-users about that. For a while, you had to click through the upgrade now screen with every login.) The ridiculous number of Flash ads with sound, pop-ups, pop-unders, and at least one alleged attempt to drive-by install spyware on a user's PC in '05 (wasn't my computer, so I can't verify it) drove me batty. Oh, and every time I got close to them owing me money as part of the ad-sharing, the cutoff before they'd send you a check mysteriously went up. They still owe me almost $100 that I expect I'll never see. Keep in mind, though, this was for their free service; maybe the paid email hosting service is better. As with any service, when you can, try before you buy. David Smith MVN.net -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
We used the Google Apps service for about a year completely free - no problems. We finally purchased it to make us feel worthy of being Google customers. Got a few bells and whistles by paying for it, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: We are not using their free service. I usually don't use free services. I am of the mindset that you get what you pay for. Sometimes you luck out and there are success stories, but by and large I steer clear of unpaid services. I feel that you always pay, somehow. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs Frank Muto wrote: As a ENET distributor, I'll agree with Mark. After testing various hosted services for 18 months, I decided on ENET back in 2006. For a hosted service I feel it is the best all around email service you can offer your customers. We use ENET mostly for backup continuity and for clients looking for a less expensive alternative to in-house Exchange, or hosted Exchange. We have the full compliment to offer, IMAP, POP3, Webmail and a customizable portal. A personal project of mine, several years ago, involved a clever domain name and giving away free email addresses. At the time, I picked everyone.net to do this, because in mid-2000 they were just about the only ones doing it. Their Webmail interface was horribly clunky even at the time, and IMAP/POP3 were an extra twenty bucks per user, per year. (And they missed no opportunity to try to bug your end-users about that. For a while, you had to click through the upgrade now screen with every login.) The ridiculous number of Flash ads with sound, pop-ups, pop-unders, and at least one alleged attempt to drive-by install spyware on a user's PC in '05 (wasn't my computer, so I can't verify it) drove me batty. Oh, and every time I got close to them owing me money as part of the ad-sharing, the cutoff before they'd send you a check mysteriously went up. They still owe me almost $100 that I expect I'll never see. Keep in mind, though, this was for their free service; maybe the paid email hosting service is better. As with any service, when you can, try before you buy. David Smith MVN.net -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
Am I the only one left that thinks it's just a bit strange that google seems to be in a position to know almost everything that there is to know about what happens on the internet? Even your personal emails now? Google has become far too Orwellian even for me! shudder marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs Love it. Couldn't expect a better service. HTTP://goinx.com On 1/6/09, Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. Currently we are running our email services on an out of production email server that is no longer supported and behind a Barracuda SF for spam protection. It is causing more problems than it's worth. If it were up to me I'd have everyone switch to gmail or something like that but of course people don't like to change their email addresses. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
Google's motto is Don't be evil :) On 1/6/09, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: Am I the only one left that thinks it's just a bit strange that google seems to be in a position to know almost everything that there is to know about what happens on the internet? Even your personal emails now? Google has become far too Orwellian even for me! shudder marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs Love it. Couldn't expect a better service. HTTP://goinx.com On 1/6/09, Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. Currently we are running our email services on an out of production email server that is no longer supported and behind a Barracuda SF for spam protection. It is causing more problems than it's worth. If it were up to me I'd have everyone switch to gmail or something like that but of course people don't like to change their email addresses. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
Whats enet web address? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs The ENET customizable portal is really cool. You can customize just about everything you want about the look feel of the webmail interface. You can give your customers admin access to their own domain as well, while you still control system-wide settings. We moved 3 servers into their service over the last few months with over 1000 accounts, and we are so far happy with it. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Frank Muto frank.m...@secureemailplus.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs As a ENET distributor, I'll agree with Mark. After testing various hosted services for 18 months, I decided on ENET back in 2006. For a hosted service I feel it is the best all around email service you can offer your customers. We use ENET mostly for backup continuity and for clients looking for a less expensive alternative to in-house Exchange, or hosted Exchange. We have the full compliment to offer, IMAP, POP3, Webmail and a customizable portal. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Google Security Services Distributor- Powered by Postini www.SecureEmailPlus.com 800-246-7740 - Toll Free 630-258-7422 - Direct - Original Message - From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs If you only host your OWN domain, this looks like a good solution. If you host your CUSTOMER's domains, it is not, at least when I researched it before we went with Everyone.Net. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:51 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. Currently we are running our email services on an out of production email server that is no longer supported and behind a Barracuda SF for spam protection. It is causing more problems than it's worth. If it were up to me I'd have everyone switch to gmail or something like that but of course people don't like to change their email addresses. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
lol So was Hitler's I think! grin It's just too strange for me. marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs Google's motto is Don't be evil :) On 1/6/09, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: Am I the only one left that thinks it's just a bit strange that google seems to be in a position to know almost everything that there is to know about what happens on the internet? Even your personal emails now? Google has become far too Orwellian even for me! shudder marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs Love it. Couldn't expect a better service. HTTP://goinx.com On 1/6/09, Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. Currently we are running our email services on an out of production email server that is no longer supported and behind a Barracuda SF for spam protection. It is causing more problems than it's worth. If it were up to me I'd have everyone switch to gmail or something like that but of course people don't like to change their email addresses. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
everyone.net Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs Whats enet web address? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs The ENET customizable portal is really cool. You can customize just about everything you want about the look feel of the webmail interface. You can give your customers admin access to their own domain as well, while you still control system-wide settings. We moved 3 servers into their service over the last few months with over 1000 accounts, and we are so far happy with it. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Frank Muto frank.m...@secureemailplus.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs As a ENET distributor, I'll agree with Mark. After testing various hosted services for 18 months, I decided on ENET back in 2006. For a hosted service I feel it is the best all around email service you can offer your customers. We use ENET mostly for backup continuity and for clients looking for a less expensive alternative to in-house Exchange, or hosted Exchange. We have the full compliment to offer, IMAP, POP3, Webmail and a customizable portal. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Google Security Services Distributor- Powered by Postini www.SecureEmailPlus.com 800-246-7740 - Toll Free 630-258-7422 - Direct - Original Message - From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs If you only host your OWN domain, this looks like a good solution. If you host your CUSTOMER's domains, it is not, at least when I researched it before we went with Everyone.Net. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:51 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. Currently we are running our email services on an out of production email server that is no longer supported and behind a Barracuda SF for spam protection. It is causing more problems than it's worth. If it were up to me I'd have everyone switch to gmail or something like that but of course people don't like to change their email addresses. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http
