Sven Kuenzler wrote:
> About the Source vs Generator issue: I found a post by Sylvain [1]. It
> does not separate the Source and Generator concepts completely but the
> bottom line seems to be
> - If you have a format with some "natural" xml respresentation, it's a
> source (Like Excel->MS's E
About the Source vs Generator issue: I found a post by Sylvain [1]. It
does not separate the Source and Generator concepts completely but the
bottom line seems to be
- If you have a format with some "natural" xml respresentation, it's a
source (Like Excel->MS's Excel-XML?)
- If you have a binar
> From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sven Kuenzler
>
> Andrew C. Oliver schrieb:
>
> >> The real use case I had in mind was the application where I used
the
> >> Serializer out of Cocoon. This application produces an Excel sheet
> >> which is sent out by Email. So it is not di
Andrew C. Oliver schrieb:
>> The real use case I had in mind was the application where I used the
>> Serializer out of Cocoon. This application produces an Excel sheet
>> which is sent out by Email. So it is not direct a response but a "side
>> effect" to the request. In C2 this is called a "
Sven Kuenzler wrote:
> Good question. ATM, I only could give artificial scenarios.
>
> The real use case I had in mind was the application where I used the
> Serializer out of Cocoon. This application produces an Excel sheet
> which is sent out by Email. So it is not direct a response but a "
Good question. ATM, I only could give artificial scenarios.
The real use case I had in mind was the application where I used the
Serializer out of Cocoon. This application produces an Excel sheet which
is sent out by Email. So it is not direct a response but a "side effect"
to the request. In
Explain, elaborate.
2 Why would you want to do it at the transformation point?
Sven Kuenzler wrote:
> Something that just came to me thinking of the dicussion about an
> ExcelGenerator: What about implementing it as (Writeable)Source
> instead? That way you could use it with SourceWritingTran
Something that just came to me thinking of the dicussion about an
ExcelGenerator: What about implementing it as (Writeable)Source instead?
That way you could use it with SourceWritingTransformer and friends, not
only as pipeline starting point.
Sven
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nerators and Serializers for Cocoon for
> all the formats.
>
> http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/index.html
>
> Ryan
>
> Michael Wechner wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Is there an Excel Generator, which creates from an Excel (xls) file
>> some XML? Or what approach wou
Hi,
You might check out the POI project (hunt around for the HSSF stuff).
They claim to be working on Generators and Serializers for Cocoon for
all the formats.
http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/index.html
Ryan
Michael Wechner wrote:
> Hi
>
> Is there an Excel Generator, which create
3 juillet 2002 06:37
> À: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Objet: Excel generator
>
>
> Hi
>
> Is there an Excel Generator, which creates from an Excel (xls) file
> some XML? Or what approach would you take to conv
Manos Batsis wrote:
>>From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>>Although I don't like dealing with M$ stuff, a nice idea is utilizing
>>>the office 2002 XML formats, specifically the one of Excel.
>>>
>>>
>>Explain the advantage? This is what I brought up, so
> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Although I don't like dealing with M$ stuff, a nice idea is utilizing
> >the office 2002 XML formats, specifically the one of Excel.
>
> Explain the advantage? This is what I brought up, so far its
> unanimous
> the other direction. Wh
Manos Batsis wrote:
>
>
>>From: Michael Wechner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>Therefore I thought it would be nice if he is sending me his
>>Excel and I
>>generate an XML,
>>which I can modify , and then I serialize it back into Excel,
>>such that
>>he can work on it.
>>
>
>> I would suggest a seperate mailing list for this, perhaps on krysalis
>> in addition to the commons mailing list, as there is no way in hell
>> I'm subscribing to the commons mailing list ever again because the
>> volume is soo great that it would triple my current email volume
>> and
Sven Kuenzler wrote:
> Nicola Ken Barozzi schrieb:
>
>
>>> I would suggest a seperate mailing list for this, perhaps on krysalis
>>> in addition to the commons mailing list, as there is no way in hell
>>> I'm subscribing to the commons mailing list ever again because the
>>> volume is so
> From: Michael Wechner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Therefore I thought it would be nice if he is sending me his
> Excel and I
> generate an XML,
> which I can modify , and then I serialize it back into Excel,
> such that
> he can work on it.
Although I don't like dealing with M$ stuff,
Nicola Ken Barozzi schrieb:
>> I would suggest a seperate mailing list for this, perhaps on krysalis
>> in addition to the commons mailing list, as there is no way in hell
>> I'm subscribing to the commons mailing list ever again because the
>> volume is soo great that it would triple my
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> but to be honest i dont know any better solution than gnumeric. and
>>> at least
>>> the solution is symetrical gnumeric->excel->gnumeric.
>>
>> Yup. And XSLT files for easy conversion to the Excel format.
>
> Okay thanks to all. I'm convinced we made
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>Yeah in short: Its a Cocoon Serializer. While I appreciate this
>>feedback, I personally have no use cases for the Serializer outside of
>>Cocoon.
>>
>>
>??? you don't ;-)
>the use case is very simple: create a xls-file out of an gnumeric-file. ;-)
>don't see any
> Yeah in short: Its a Cocoon Serializer. While I appreciate this
> feedback, I personally have no use cases for the Serializer outside of
> Cocoon.
??? you don't ;-)
the use case is very simple: create a xls-file out of an gnumeric-file. ;-)
don't see any cocoon stuff here. i guess that would b
>
>
>>
>>
>> but to be honest i dont know any better solution than gnumeric. and
>> at least
>> the solution is symetrical gnumeric->excel->gnumeric.
>
>
> Yup. And XSLT files for easy conversion to the Excel format.
>
Okay thanks to all. I'm convinced we made the right decision
originally. I
>
>
>>Well we do have some samples, but its been limited at the moment by kind
>>of a chicken and the egg scenario. The serializer is there, the samples
>>are there but we can't more because we don't have any usage scenarios
>>except for mine (translation: lots of people are using POI but few
>>p
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hi oliver,
>
>
>>Well we do have some samples, but its been limited at the moment by kind
>>of a chicken and the egg scenario. The serializer is there, the samples
>>are there but we can't more because we don't have any usage scenarios
>>except for mine (translation:
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From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: Excel generator
> Sorry if it sounds like I'm hounding on this issue, but its very
helpful.
>
> And you fin
- Original Message -
From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: Excel generator
> But the more important part of my answer was "What do you want on your
> generator, and
&
hi oliver,
> Well we do have some samples, but its been limited at the moment by kind
> of a chicken and the egg scenario. The serializer is there, the samples
> are there but we can't more because we don't have any usage scenarios
> except for mine (translation: lots of people are using POI but
x27;s how it is. BUT, we want to collaborate nevertheless!
Therefore I thought it would be nice if he is sending me his Excel and I
generate an XML,
which I can modify , and then I serialize it back into Excel, such that
he can work on it.
Thanks
Michael
>
>
> -Andy
>
> Sven Kuenzler
ill for
>the stuff I am trying to do.
>
>Just sharing my experience...
>
>Litrik De Roy
>www.litrik.com
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Sven Kuenzler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Newsgroups: gmane.text.xml.cocoon.user
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
2002 20:52
> Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Onderwerp: Re: Excel generator
>
>
> I'd also prefer the Gnumeric format. That's because it's open source,
> it's used by other oss project(s) and there are people maintaining
> documentation for it. So, keeping this format woul
o.
Just sharing my experience...
Litrik De Roy
www.litrik.com
- Original Message -
From: "Sven Kuenzler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: gmane.text.xml.cocoon.user
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: Excel generator
> > Is th
>
>
>Yes, and it may be good to provide a standard "out of the box" stylesheet
>that does this.
>
>
Well we do have some samples, but its been limited at the moment by kind
of a chicken and the egg scenario. The serializer is there, the samples
are there but we can't more because we don't hav
t would probably come very close
> to the Gnumeric format anyway...
>
> Koen.
>
>
>>-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
>>Van: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Verzonden: dinsdag 23 juli 2002 19:18
>>Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Marc Johnson
>>Onder
gt;to the Gnumeric format anyway...
>
>Koen.
>
>
>
>>-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
>>Van: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Verzonden: dinsdag 23 juli 2002 19:18
>>Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Marc Johnson
>>Onderwerp: Re: Excel generator
Andy,
> >1) If you are serializing to some display format (html, pdf,
> etc) you'd want
> >to reproduce the data and formatting as it would appear viewed in, or
> >printed from excel.
> >
> You can of course do an approximation of this in any format via a
> stylesheet. Granted it won't look *e
t; Van: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Verzonden: dinsdag 23 juli 2002 19:18
> Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Marc Johnson
> Onderwerp: Re: Excel generator
>
>
> Geoff Howard wrote:
>
> >Well, I'll make a stab at what I would think could be useful for
>
hat do you wish you had on your serializer -- would you like fries
>>too?" Meaning I need ideas!
>>I'm on the fence, I want some input.
>>
>>-Andy
>>
>>Sven Kuenzler wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>>Is there an Excel Generator,
up pretty close to where I started if not
exactly where I started.
Does that work for a discussion starter?
Geoff
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:57 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Excel gener
But the more important part of my answer was "What do you want on your
generator, and
what do you wish you had on your serializer -- would you like fries
too?" Meaning I need ideas!
I'm on the fence, I want some input.
-Andy
Sven Kuenzler wrote:
>> Is there an E
> Is there an Excel Generator, which creates *from* an Excel (xls) file
> some XML? Or what approach would you take to convert existing Excel
> documents into some useful XML?
I think the previous responses missed the *from* (my emphasis) :-)
So, read Andy's answer on the dev list
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
>
> Geoff Howard wrote:
>
>> I didn't think there was, but the POI site
>> (http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/)
>> claims that there is, so you may want to check more carefully in
>> scratchpad.
>> I assume you know about the transformers and serializers for Excel
>> for
Geoff Howard wrote:
> I didn't think there was, but the POI site (http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/)
> claims that there is, so you may want to check more carefully in scratchpad.
> I assume you know about the transformers and serializers for Excel format
> using the POI/HSSF work from Apache Jakar
k, it should be
fairly easy to create a generator if one doesn't already exist in
scratchpad.
Geoff Howard
-Original Message-
From: Michael Wechner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 12:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Excel generator
Hi
Hi
Is there an Excel Generator, which creates from an Excel (xls) file
some XML? Or what approach would you take to convert existing Excel
documents into some useful XML?
Thanks a lot
Michael
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