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You took wrong Mark. I'm a veteran and I know the VA system. Am I to guess you're somehow affiliated with the VA and took exception? I didn't say one couldn't get good care at a VA. I said, given a choice I'd prefer a non-gov't run hospital, except depending on diagnosis. Lots of people se

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"...no nothing..."? I take it you mean KNOW nothing? :) On Sunday 30 September 2007 10:57, Mark Corrigan wrote: > On Sep 26, 2007, at 11:14 AM, Charles Ballinger wrote: > > Any except the gov't hospital. > > What government hospital are you talking about? I take it that you > are not a veteran

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On Sep 26, 2007, at 11:14 AM, Charles Ballinger wrote: Any except the gov't hospital. What government hospital are you talking about? I take it that you are not a veteran and no nothing about the VA. The VA is the biggest hospital system in the world and provides very good care for th

Re: [CGUYS] Best apples (was Re: [CGUYS] Fw: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING!!!!

The grapples are not bread to taste like a grape, but are soaked in a Concord grape solution to achieve the grape flavor. Stewart At 01:23 PM 9/27/2007, you wrote: On the Splendid Table table episode last week they talked to an apple breeding botantist. He said they released a variety t

[CGUYS] Best apples (was Re: [CGUYS] Fw: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING!!!!

If you ever had a Cortland apple from upper NY state, you would know which is the best. :-) Mike John Duncan Yoyo wrote: No the vote on apple split three ways. Fuji, Granny Smith and Gravenstein with a few outliers for Winter Banana, Macoun and McIntosh On 9/26/07, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTE

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07 12:04:25 PM > Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Best apples (was Re: [CGUYS] Fw: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING > > > > > If you ever had a Cortland apple from upper NY state, you would know > which is the best. :-) > > Northern Spy--not only perfect for my yummy apple pies--it

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I was looking for cool apple names on the web. Banana and Apple go together way back for those of us who read Bloom County religiously. According to this web page Winter Banana actually does smell like banana. It is a September-

Re: [CGUYS] Best apples (was Re: [CGUYS] Fw: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING!!!!

tember 27, 2007 12:04:25 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Best apples (was Re: [CGUYS] Fw: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING > > If you ever had a Cortland apple from upper NY state, you would know which is the best. :-) Northern Spy--not only perfect for my yummy apple pies--it has the best name. Gott

Re: [CGUYS] Best apples (was Re: [CGUYS] Fw: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING!!!!

> > If you ever had a Cortland apple from upper NY state, you would know which is the best. :-) Northern Spy--not only perfect for my yummy apple pies--it has the best name. Gotta go back to canning my apples now... Betty **

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Winter Banana? Really? Where can you get them? I can buy Grimes Golden, Black Twig, York, Winesap, etc. from Heyser Farms, but they've never had Winter Banana. Do you have a source? --Constance P.S.: My husband works at an Apple retailer. I can ask him about some specialized technical Mac qu

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If the RIAA and MPAA keep going in this direction I'll expect them to become armed and able to enter anyone's house without warrant, another branch of the IRS. Mike On 9/26/07, Constance Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think too many list members have switched to OS X. Now they don't have

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To: Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Fw: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING No the vote on apple split three ways. Fuji, Granny Smith and Gravenstein with a few outliers for Winter Banana, Macoun and McIntosh On 9/26/07, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Or maybe t

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Silly me I voted for gala. Mike On 9/26/07, John Duncan Yoyo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No the vote on apple split three ways. Fuji, Granny Smith and > Gravenstein with a few outliers for Winter Banana, Macoun and > McIntosh > > On 9/26/07, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Or maybe t

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No the vote on apple split three ways. Fuji, Granny Smith and Gravenstein with a few outliers for Winter Banana, Macoun and McIntosh On 9/26/07, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Or maybe the last guy with a question regarding apple stuff was refused an > answer so everyone gave up. > > Mike

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Or maybe the last guy with a question regarding apple stuff was refused an answer so everyone gave up. Mike On 9/26/07, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think too many list members have switched to OS X. Now they don't have > any computer problems to gripe about. The rest of you need

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: "Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING Tom Piwowar wrote: Given the choice of three hospitals and knowing only that one was run by a government agency, one was run by a for-profit corporation, and o

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Teaching hospitals are fine.. especially if you're stuck with some 'zebra' of a problem. Although every July and August, given a choice, I'd lean toward the non-teaching, non-govt places. On Sep 26, 2007, at 4:29 PM, Robert wrote: Tom Piwowar wrote: Given the choice of three hospitals a

Re: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING!!!!

"Tom Piwowar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING A happy employee is worth a ton of money! They help recruit business. I know this as it is the same or similar model Churches use to grow. The idea that

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Tom Piwowar wrote: Given the choice of three hospitals and knowing only that one was run by a government agency, one was run by a for-profit corporation, and one was run by a religious-charitable organization, which would your choose? Depends on the government agency. If it is a hospital

Re: [CGUYS] OT WARNING!!!! - Tom is right

On Sep 26, 2007, at 3:18 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: I think too many list members have switched to OS X. Now they don't have any computer problems to gripe about. The rest of you need to get to work -- install Vista or some other harebrained piece of software so we can ponder the consequences.

Re: [CGUYS] Fw: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING!!!! an on-topic topic

I think too many list members have switched to OS X. Now they don't have any computer problems to gripe about. The rest of you need to get to work -- install Vista or some other harebrained piece of software so we can ponder the consequences. WANT AN ON-TOPIC TOPIC to discuss and get mad about

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>I have my doubts about the current administration, in part because it >gives too much weight, and too many favors, to large property holders >like Wal-Mart. This became quite obvious when in the first few weeks of Bush's term they put Cheney's son-in-law in charge of the Microsoft anti-trust set

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I think too many list members have switched to OS X. Now they don't have any computer problems to gripe about. The rest of you need to get to work -- install Vista or some other harebrained piece of software so we can ponder the consequences. ***

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100 miles seems a bit far.. Maybe a "1-800-BuyMeds.com" and FedEx? And with that we've glanced into on-topic again. On Sep 26, 2007, at 11:44 AM, Constance Warner wrote: This is definitely a problem if you're a woman in a small rural town and the next-closest drug store is 100 miles away.

[CGUYS] Fw: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING!!!!

- Original Message - From: "Randy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING We have increasingly come to see government as the main instrument

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You should also be aware that Catholic hospitals will not provide emergency contraception in case of rape, or--for that matter--any contraception at all. Provision of contraception in areas where few providers are available continues to be a problem, and not just in the case of Catholic hospitals.

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Adding to Matthew's comments: The established trend is to use "hospitalists." Your doc gets some feedback, etc on your progress, but your inpatient care is directed and managed by the hospital's W-2 employed hospitalist. I'd not call a hospitalist a specialist other than as defined contrac

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Any except the gov't hospital. For profit and nonprofit are equal except if you're a high risk OB/ sick mother case and would prefer the mother be saved by sacrificing the baby should it come to that. In that case you'd want to avoid certain religious affiliated hospitals. On Sep 26, 2007,

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Sometimes hospitals also restrict how many doctors they will allow privileges as well. Some very good family practice doctors have no privileges at all, as most anything going on in a hospital involves a specialist. On Sep 26, 2007, at 10:33 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: What is some

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The one my doctor prefers to associate with. What is sometimes overlooked is that Doctor preference can also be an indicator of what are the better hospitals. If you have a family physician and he only chooses to associate with one particular hospital there must be a reason. Other than that

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> A happy employee is worth a ton of money! They help recruit business. I > know this as it is the same or similar model Churches use to grow. The idea that the government should respond to social problems was a product of the Reformation, part of the process of sidelining the church. Then th

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By the way Hitchens claims to be an anti-theist, not an atheist. Not sure where the difference lies! Some of the best atheists make the best theologians! :-) Stewart At 11:28 PM 9/25/2007, you wrote: Only recently have I begun to appreciate or even watch or pay attention to religious figu

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rties, political leaders, religious leaders, teachers, etc. and start realizing that we have the capacity to come up with our own answers, and start doing so. Randall - Original Message - From: "Matthew Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 9:

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Randall - Original Message - From: "Rev. Stewart Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING On that I see no disagreement. A happy employee is worth a ton of money! They help recruit business.

[CGUYS] Bingo! - you hit on the fundamental problem of humanity, and its implied solution (was Re: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING!!!!)

oncept; that of "The Question" and the asking of questions in search of answers. Randall - Original Message - From: "b_s-wilk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING > Constance Warner <[EMAIL P

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Like him, hate him, think him a loon or a wise man, but Ron Paul is definitely not cut from the same cloth as the other candidates for President. On Sep 24, 2007, at 3:46 PM, Randy wrote: Someone for real, fundamental change wouldn't run for President

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On that I see no disagreement. A happy employee is worth a ton of money! They help recruit business. I know this as it is the same or similar model Churches use to grow. Happy members pull other newer members in though the door thereby increasing numbers. How to keep them happy plus make

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>Is there a video featuring a better-run company like Costco--not >including 'Idiocracy' or 'Employee of the Month' [although Mike Judge's >Idiocracy was funny]? There are plenty of companies that have management >with consciences, just not Walmart--one of the most expensive places to >shop.

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Constance Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: It's not just health care. As I see it, the underlying question is: do we, as citizens, want a system in which the highest ethical value is making more money, down to the last penny, no matter what else is lost in the process? Especially when some

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First off. Anyone who tries to compete against Walmart head to head is an idiot. Walmart is the largest grocer in town, but I still shop two smaller local stores because 1.) They carry things Walmart does not. 2.) I like their meat selections and quality better! I do not buy everything at

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I don't quite see what the Supreme Court decision about eminent domain has to do with what WalMart does. WalMart often comes into a community, in spite of the community's protests, and does whatever Wal-Mart management wants: build stores, abandon stores, demand tax concessions, wreck downtowns. A

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Constance, Just addressing your one point below: If you recall, our Supreme Court ruled that a State could use its power of "eminent domain" to wrest real property from a citizen, then give that real property to a corporation, if in so doing, they would get more tax revenue from the corporati

Re: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING!!!!

It's not just health care. As I see it, the underlying question is: do we, as citizens, want a system in which the highest ethical value is making more money, down to the last penny, no matter what else is lost in the process? Especially when some of the players who are doing the "down to the las

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who cannot afford or access it on their own. What does this have to do with computers? Nothing, directly, but since others are discussing this here, this is my 2 cents. Randall - Original Message - From: "Matthew Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursda

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y, September 20, 2007 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING I can see an argument that society has an obligation to provide health care to all, and that government is the best means to achieve that. I do not see that the obligation, if extant, should in any way fall on employers.

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I have owned small businesses for the past 40 years. I retired in Jan 2007. I provided health insurance for employees. Certainly for the past 10 years, I provided a compensation package that took the cost of health insurance into consideration. I had very low turnover as health insurance for

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I can see an argument that society has an obligation to provide health care to all, and that government is the best means to achieve that. I do not see that the obligation, if extant, should in any way fall on employers. If one accepted that argument, that an economic entity that employs a

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This is an old story--see the comment below this summary of the original debate, if you like. On Sep 13, 2007, at 10:47 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: > OT WARNING!! > > -Walmart makes deals with communities not to pay local taxes in return > for bringing jobs to the area. This is a problem with local / st

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On Sep 13, 2007, at 10:47 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: OT WARNING!! -Walmart makes deals with communities not to pay local taxes in return for bringing jobs to the area. As do many, many other business considering locating in a community. This is a problem with local / state governments willing to