Re: [css-d] width of - I don't get it

2006-08-23 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Aug 24, 2006, at 5:40 AM, Peter-Paul Koch wrote: >> http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/struct/ >> tables.html#adef-width-COL >> both specify that widths on cols and colgroups apply per column. > > But does "each column" mean the tag (which may span several > columns) or the indi

Re: [css-d] Newbie seeking layout examples to study

2006-08-23 Thread Tim Gossett
Anne E. Shroeder wrote: > I've been working for about 2 days straight trying to get a fairly > straightforward alignment set up > (left navigation > top header that runs the width of the page starting after left nav > middle part of page (under header) > right side of page (narrow margin) > and foo

Re: [css-d] Newbie seeking layout examples to study

2006-08-23 Thread david
Anne E. Shroeder wrote: > I've been working for about 2 days straight trying to get a fairly > straightforward alignment set up > (left navigation > top header that runs the width of the page starting after left nav > middle part of page (under header) > right side of page (narrow margin) > and fo

[css-d] Newbie seeking layout examples to study

2006-08-23 Thread Anne E. Shroeder
I've been working for about 2 days straight trying to get a fairly straightforward alignment set up (left navigation top header that runs the width of the page starting after left nav middle part of page (under header) right side of page (narrow margin) and footer) I've learned a great deal and p

Re: [css-d] Site Check Please (mac & PC )

2006-08-23 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Got the numbers to the references mixed up in original mail. Correct ones below. >> http://www.gnd.com.au/temp2/ The CSS file-size can be reduced a bit by using shorthand[1], especially for those backgrounds. Looks like 'handheld' may get a bit messed up by media-unlimited styles. Either you inc

Re: [css-d] Site Check Please (mac & PC )

2006-08-23 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Professional Web Pages - Information wrote: > Can I please get a site check on > http://www.gnd.com.au/temp2/ Sure :-) The CSS file-size can be reduced a bit by using shorthand[1], especially for those backgrounds. You should check that those 'display: none' don't mess things up in CSS-able scr

Re: [css-d] Site Check Please (mac & PC )

2006-08-23 Thread ~davidLaakso
Professional Web Pages - Information wrote: > > Can I please get a site check on > http://www.gnd.com.au/temp2/ > Regards, > PWP I am a designer's worst nightmare :-) . Version9.01/Build8552/PlatformWin32/SystemWindows XP Kill my default

Re: [css-d] Site Check Please (mac & PC )

2006-08-23 Thread david
~davidLaakso wrote: > Professional Web Pages - Information wrote: >> Hi >> Can I please get a site check on >> >> http://www.gnd.com.au/temp2/ >> >> PWP > Hmm. I am not able to function /with/ the Macromedia Flash player. So I > think that I will just pass on this site check. > > "The GND website

[css-d] Nav borders

2006-08-23 Thread Daniel Hammond
On www.southpawbrothers.com, the top borders of the navigation links show up in Firefox (as they should), but they don't show up in IE. Why? Daniel Hammond www.objectivedesigns.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css

Re: [css-d] Site Check Please (mac & PC )

2006-08-23 Thread ~davidLaakso
Professional Web Pages - Information wrote: > Hi > Can I please get a site check on > > > http://www.gnd.com.au/temp2/ > > > PWP Hmm. I am not able to function /with/ the Macromedia Flash player. So I think that I will just pass on this site check. "The GND website cannot function without the Mac

[css-d] ul lists and css

2006-08-23 Thread jaklitsch maya
I am having problems with styling ul. I have the following css style on an linked css style sheet for all the good it does me. Sorry I do not have the page on the web. --- The first two are for a specific ul .staff ul {font-size: 85%; list-style: none;}

[css-d] Site Check Please (mac & PC )

2006-08-23 Thread Professional Web Pages - Information
Hi Can I please get a site check on http://www.gnd.com.au/temp2/ Legal stuff(to protect us) Disclaimer: No details on the website are final.. no offerings on the website are final - the website is still in construction and does not represent the final product and/or offers any product on th

Re: [css-d] Newbie Question about Vertical Positioning

2006-08-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Robert Tilley wrote: > My page has a horizontal menu bar at the top of the window. There is a > maximum depth to which the menus drop. I would like to have my id="content"> section positioned vertically below that depth, so that the > text is not covered when the menus drop. Its a helpful p

Re: [css-d] Relative newbie: How best to layout header and 3 "inline" divs?

2006-08-23 Thread Wes Gamble
The other thing that occurred to me is that the inside of my DIV is _one_ element. I'm betting that CSS the browser isn't capable of splitting up elements just to meet some containing block width requirement. I think that that is my problem. Wes Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: >Wes Gamble wrote: >

Re: [css-d] Newbie Question about Vertical Positioning

2006-08-23 Thread Wes Gamble
Bob, I think that you need to absolutely position your content DIV to get this behavior. So if the content DIV is contained within the menu DIV (unlikely), then you could set "position: relative" on the menu div and set "position: absolute; top: " on the content DIV. If the menu and content D

[css-d] Newbie Question about Vertical Positioning

2006-08-23 Thread Robert Tilley
Please, I am a newcomer to this list. I have read the FAQ regarding posting and have been hesitant about posting for fear of being squashed. Lurking has lost its allure and the time has come to enter into the fray with questions. My page has a horizontal menu bar at the top of the window. The

Re: [css-d] Relative newbie: How best to layout header and 3 "inline" divs?

2006-08-23 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Wes Gamble wrote: > If there is a table inside of it that is wider than the 63% of the > body tag that I've given it, the entire main DIV stretches to > accomodate it and overlaps the "right_status" DIV. That sounds like IE/win behavior: "auto expanding", which is a genuine bug in that browser.

Re: [css-d] imported style sheet and background images path

2006-08-23 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Yannick Schall wrote: > I'm working on this: > http://kosmonot.bl1nd.com/clockwork/test_layout_016.html > > i use a lot of background images from an imported style sheet using > @import. > everything is all right but that i have to supply the complete path to > the image in my style sheet like th

Re: [css-d] width of - I don't get it

2006-08-23 Thread Peter-Paul Koch
> However, this one happens to be specified the same way in both specs and > implemented that way: > > http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-CSS21-20060411/tables.html#q4 says: > # The following properties apply to column and column-group elements: > # [...] > # 'width' > # The 'width' property gives the

Re: [css-d] Classify my IE7 bug?

2006-08-23 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Nick Vincent wrote: > http://www.vtype.com/ie7/ > I just spent a couple of hours regressing a bug where IE7 and IE6 > both incorrectly calculate the top padding of a div cleared past a > single floating element. > > Is this a known bug, and if so is there a workaround? It is a known combinati

Re: [css-d] width of - I don't get it

2006-08-23 Thread L. David Baron
On Wednesday 2006-08-23 19:53 +0100, Nick Fitzsimons wrote: > On 23 Aug 2006, at 19:43, L. David Baron wrote: > >(Note, for example, that the span="2" doesn't map to > >anything in CSS.) > > > > However "span" is in the list of attributes that are not considered > to be presentational according

Re: [css-d] width of - I don't get it

2006-08-23 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 23 Aug 2006, at 19:43, L. David Baron wrote: > (Note, for example, that the span="2" doesn't map to > anything in CSS.) > However "span" is in the list of attributes that are not considered to be presentational according to CSS2.1 section 6.4.4:

Re: [css-d] width of - I don't get it

2006-08-23 Thread L. David Baron
On Wednesday 2006-08-23 18:40 +0100, Nick Fitzsimons wrote: > As the HTML 4 spec states that the width attribute applies to each > individual column spanned by the "COL" element, it follows that a CSS > width declaration must also apply to each individual column, rather > than to the group of

[css-d] Relative newbie: How best to layout header and 3 "inline" divs?

2006-08-23 Thread Wes Gamble
All, I have been working through lots of CSS issues, and I think I'm starting to grasp most of the concepts, however, some things are still confusing me. (relevant HTML and CSS below) I am trying to reliably layout all of my pages with a banner across the top and then three block level contain

Re: [css-d] width of - I don't get it

2006-08-23 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 23 Aug 2006, at 18:27, Peter-Paul Koch wrote: >> "Width" is one of the presentational attributes. > > But my code example doesn't use a width attribute, just a common CSS > width declaration. > Yes, but section 6.4 of CSS 2.1 specifies the way in which a CSS- capable user agent converts pres

Re: [css-d] width of - I don't get it

2006-08-23 Thread Peter-Paul Koch
> "Width" is one of the presentational attributes. But my code example doesn't use a width attribute, just a common CSS width declaration. -- --- ppk, freelance web developer http://www.quirksmode.org/ --

Re: [css-d] Header Row shifts in IE when window resized THEAD

2006-08-23 Thread Adam Wakal
bj Thanks for the reply. I ran the code through a HTML Tidy tool and placed it up on the web at http://staging15.zynite.com. Any help would be appreciated. Adam --- bj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I am a newbie to css-d. I am trying to get a table > to > >work with dynamic data and a fixed he

[css-d] Classify my IE7 bug?

2006-08-23 Thread Nick Vincent
Resending, didn't realise attachments got stripped, so here's the example: http://www.vtype.com/ie7/ == Hi all, I just spent a couple of hours regressing a bug where IE7 and IE6 both incorrectly calculate the top padding of a div cleared past a single floating element. Is this a known bug,

[css-d] Classify my IE7 bug?

2006-08-23 Thread Nick Vincent
Hi all, I just spent a couple of hours regressing a bug where IE7 and IE6 both incorrectly calculate the top padding of a div cleared past a single floating element. Is this a known bug, and if so is there a workaround? I also, interestingly, got this to a point during regression where I could m

Re: [css-d] width of - I don't get it

2006-08-23 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 23 Aug 2006, at 17:24, Peter-Paul Koch wrote: > http://www.quirksmode.org/css/columns.html > > One result took me totally by surprise, and I hope someone on the list > can explain it to me. In my tests I use a tag that spans two > columns: > > > > Before I did this test, I assumed tha

[css-d] width of - I don't get it

2006-08-23 Thread Peter-Paul Koch
Hello all, I just published the results of my research into table columns and CSS: http://www.quirksmode.org/css/columns.html One result took me totally by surprise, and I hope someone on the list can explain it to me. In my tests I use a tag that spans two columns: Before I did this

Re: [css-d] imported style sheet and background images path

2006-08-23 Thread ~davidLaakso
Yannick Schall wrote: > http://kosmonot.bl1nd.com/clockwork/test_layout_016.html > > [...I have to supply the complete path to > the image in my style sheet like this > background-image: url(http://kosmonot.bl1nd.com/clockwork/i/fringe.gif); > if i do this background-image: url(i/fringe.gif);it do

Re: [css-d] Where CSS, XHTML and Javascript meet

2006-08-23 Thread Tim Gossett
You might use client-side scripting to apply a random stylesheet. Look into JQuery [1]... it's a pleasure to use. As a rule, I always make sure that my pages are presentable sans JS and CSS, and then use JS and CSS to style it from there. Tim [1] http://www.jquery.com ___

Re: [css-d] Why are my fonts and sizes different between ie and firefox

2006-08-23 Thread ~davidLaakso
Vinj Vinj wrote: > I'm not sure why the fonts come out differently between ie and firefox. My > website is: > > www.eswap.com > > and the fonts in IE are larger than what I would like them to be. Any ideas > on how I can make them consistent between the browsers. These are three alternatives met

Re: [css-d] Where's the scrollbar (IE)

2006-08-23 Thread Aaron Scott Hildebrandt
> Can anyone help me figure out why the scrollbar isn't showing in this page: > > http://www.mariocatto.com.br/loja/ > The main page is being called in a frame, and in your tag you've declared scrolling="no". That would do it. You've also forgotten the closing character on your (in the source i

[css-d] Where's the scrollbar (IE)

2006-08-23 Thread Marcelo Wolfgang
Hi list, Can anyone help me figure out why the scrollbar isn't showing in this page: http://www.mariocatto.com.br/loja/ I won't show to me using IE version 6.0.2900.2128.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519, but in Firefox it work perfectly. I'm very puzzled TIA Grillo ___

[css-d] imported style sheet and background images path

2006-08-23 Thread Yannick Schall
Hi everybody, I hope you're having a good day. I'm working on this: http://kosmonot.bl1nd.com/clockwork/test_layout_016.html i use a lot of background images from an imported style sheet using @import. everything is all right but that i have to supply the complete path to the image in my style

Re: [css-d] Header Row shifts in IE when window resized THEAD

2006-08-23 Thread bj
>I am a newbie to css-d. I am trying to get a table to >work with dynamic data and a fixed header. > >I am having problems with IE6 when I resize the page. >The header row shifts to the right or left when down >sized and does not bounce back when window is resized >up. (Hopefully that made sense).

Re: [css-d] UL differences between

2006-08-23 Thread francky
Pete Home wrote: >I am trying to get the entries in an un-ordered list to be the same in IE6 >and FF > >The page is at http://www.cityboxer.com/newsite/travel/n-bigfight.shtml > >There is another slight difference with the Travel 'Sticker' which is in a >slightly different position between the two

Re: [css-d] 2 problems with my site

2006-08-23 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Chinyere Nzeduru wrote: > I have two problems with my web site www.chicledia.net , first is > that the image on my default page does not show on some computers, > while I could view it in my laptop at home, it does not show on my > office computer. I can't find the image on your server. Sure yo

Re: [css-d] Using a bug in IE6 to 'scroll' a css menu is creating problems with other layers

2006-08-23 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jasmin Marcolin wrote: > I've deliberatley used a bug issue in IE6 to 'scroll' a css menu > which works fine (in IE6 only though) but this seems to be affecting > other layers that I've created i.e it's also 'scrolling' these > layers. It will affect _all_ "positioned" elements in a page. > ht

[css-d] UL differences between

2006-08-23 Thread Pete Home
I am trying to get the entries in an un-ordered list to be the same in IE6 and FF The page is at http://www.cityboxer.com/newsite/travel/n-bigfight.shtml There is another slight difference with the Travel 'Sticker' which is in a slightly different position between the two browsers. Thanks in adv

[css-d] 2 problems with my site

2006-08-23 Thread Chinyere Nzeduru
I have two problems with my web site www.chicledia.net , first is that the image on my default page does not show on some computers, while I could view it in my laptop at home, it does not show on my office computer. The second one is that using IE the pages shows beautifully well but show big g

[css-d] Using a bug in IE6 to 'scroll' a css menu is creating problems with other layers

2006-08-23 Thread Jasmin Marcolin
Hi I've deliberatley used a bug issue in IE6 to 'scroll' a css menu which works fine (in IE6 only though) but this seems to be affecting other layers that I've created i.e it's also 'scrolling' these layers. To see what I'm talking about go to http://www.jas-min.com.au/test/index.htm An e

Re: [css-d] Can you spot the IE bug?

2006-08-23 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Phil Trinh wrote: >>> http://philsproof.com > Thank you for the very informative and helpful post. That seems to > have done the trick. Good :-) > Do you have a guess as to why this bug would only appear on certain > page refreshes? Seems to be a question about time, timing and sequence in IE

Re: [css-d] no class, no id, no element?

2006-08-23 Thread David Dorward
On 23/08/06, Brian Cummiskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm looking through a vBulletin install, and I'm noticing some weird things: > > a:link, body_alink { > what is body_alink here? It's not a class, nor an ID, nor an html > element, and it's separated by a comma, so it's not playing parent/