Re: Bug#112723: Purposely broken/uninstallable packages in archive

2001-09-20 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit > In practise, it might be perfectly safe to install on a normal > partition. Just that there is no point. I think it replaces /sbin/init, so it's not harmless.. Thinking about the merits of having diskless nodes being able to upgrade, is an im

Re: ncbi-tools6 vs. testing

2001-09-20 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Ah, now it's there; yay. I'm still curious what was holding it up, though. -- Aaron M. Ucko, KB1CJC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (finger [EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: discrepancy in ISO 3166-1 country codes

2001-09-20 Thread David B Harris
On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 18:40:32 -0500,?f( Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:) q> On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 08:51:26PM +0200, Eric Van Buggenhaut wrote: > > Since your organization is the official authority for maitaining and > > ISO country codes, I extensively used your page > > http://www.din.d

Re: Purposely broken/uninstallable packages in archive

2001-09-20 Thread Brian May
> "Norbert" == Norbert Veber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Norbert> From the description of diskless-image-simple: WARNING: Norbert> This package can and will break your computer. Do not Norbert> install manually. It should only be installed via the Norbert> diskless-newimage, pa

Re: discrepancy in ISO 3166-1 country codes

2001-09-20 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 08:51:26PM +0200, Eric Van Buggenhaut wrote: > Since your organization is the official authority for maitaining and > ISO country codes, I extensively used your page > http://www.din.de/gremien/nas/nabd/iso3166ma/ for the last, in need of > a list of ISO 3166 country codes.

Re: questions on ITP

2001-09-20 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 05:40:32PM +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote: > i am not yet an official maintainer, but i do already have an advocate > and sponsor (Colin - what's the status?) Back from "vacation" and I'll help you now. Tell me if there are any changes from the last iprelay stuff you sent me

Re: Purposely broken/uninstallable packages in archive

2001-09-20 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 09:58:16AM -0400, Norbert Veber wrote: > > If its not to be installed, it should not be in the archive. This is like > going to a restaurant and being told not to eat a certain dish under any > circumstances because you'll get food poisoning.. :) > > Clearly these pacakge

Re: default font resolution in X Windows

2001-09-20 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Suarez Soto) writes: > So, am I the only one that even in 17" monitors uses 75dpi fonts? Dunno, I'm using 75dpi fonts on 19 and 21". Fwiw, the change annoyed me too. I'm not using a larger display because my eyes fail me, I'm using it to get more text on it. Gr

Re: questions on ITP

2001-09-20 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Thu, 20 Sep 2001 17:40:32 +0200 Martin F Krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > however, in the mean time i am happily packaging along and submitting > ITP's to bugs.debian.org the proper way. However, not once has one of > these ITPs reached the debian-devel list. they have been confirmed, > b

Re: Running dpkg -r foo from a postinst script?

2001-09-20 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 02:17:43PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Colin Watson wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 06:11:53PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote: > > > I have a simple question. Is it possible to run dpkg -r foo > > > from within a postinst-script when using dselect or ap

Re: Running dpkg -r foo from a postinst script?

2001-09-20 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 09:16:00PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > What you really want to do is to implement > Recommanded-Conflicts: brokenmailer, etcpassoire, trivialtohackftpd > or even > Suggested-Conflicts: easyr00ted, lametelnetd > Right ? > > Well, creates an > harden-recommanded-conflicts

please test this lintian release

2001-09-20 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
http://people.debian.org/~shaleh/lintian.

Re: questions on ITP

2001-09-20 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Sep 20, Martin F Krafft wrote: > i am not yet an official maintainer, but i do already have an advocate > and sponsor (Colin - what's the status?) > > however, in the mean time i am happily packaging along and submitting > ITP's to bugs.debian.org the proper way. However, not once has one of >

Re: Graphing Debian Lists

2001-09-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > The graphs are indeed nice, what did you use to make them? The graphs say `rrdtool', which is a pretty good hint :) Wichert. -- _ / Nothing is fool-proof to a sufficiently talented

Re: questions on ITP

2001-09-20 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 05:40:32PM +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote: > however, in the mean time i am happily packaging along and submitting > ITP's to bugs.debian.org the proper way. However, not once has one of > these ITPs reached the debian-devel list. they have been confirmed, > but they haven't b

Re: questions on ITP

2001-09-20 Thread Gergely Nagy
You can either Cc: debian devel, or add a X-Debbugs-Cc: header (works like Cc, but includes the bug# in the subject too). IIRC, it is documented somewhere in the doc-debian package. Cheers, -- Gergely Nagy \ mhp/|8] pgpWqyKFvBmI9.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Maxima] Future of maxima

2001-09-20 Thread C Y
--- Paulo Ney de Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would like to volunteer to maintain the > documentation. As to the documentation, I believe all we have right now are a few examples, man pages and a manual describing the functions. A more friendly, complete manual (using docbook maybe?)

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-20 Thread Keith G. Murphy
John Hasler wrote: > > > that. > > Surely there are locales for welsh and Scottish gaelic? > -- I should think not. Those are two *very* different Celtic languages.

Re: Running dpkg -r foo from a postinst script?

2001-09-20 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Colin Watson wrote: > On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 06:11:53PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote: > > I have a simple question. Is it possible to run dpkg -r foo > > from within a postinst-script when using dselect or apt? > > > > What is the result? > > You can't do it directly, as dpkg

Re: default font resolution in X Windows

2001-09-20 Thread Alan Shutko
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Suarez Soto) writes: > So, am I the only one that even in 17" monitors uses 75dpi fonts? Are you using 75dpi fonts on a 75dpi monitor, or just using 75dpi fonts because you like them? -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Cheer Up! Thing

Re: Running dpkg -r foo from a postinst script?

2001-09-20 Thread Bill Allombert
What you really want to do is to implement Recommanded-Conflicts: brokenmailer, etcpassoire, trivialtohackftpd or even Suggested-Conflicts: easyr00ted, lametelnetd Right ? Well, creates an harden-recommanded-conflicts package that conflicts with brokenmailer, etcpassoire, trivialtohackftpd and a

Re: Graphing Debian Lists

2001-09-20 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have taken the opportunity to create some nice (or not?) graphics of > the mailing lists that Debian serves on lists.debian.org. I have > analysed both the posting frequency and the total list of subscribers. The graphs are indeed nice, what

questions on ITP

2001-09-20 Thread Martin F Krafft
hi guys, i am not yet an official maintainer, but i do already have an advocate and sponsor (Colin - what's the status?) however, in the mean time i am happily packaging along and submitting ITP's to bugs.debian.org the proper way. However, not once has one of these ITPs reached the debian-devel l

discrepancy in ISO 3166-1 country codes

2001-09-20 Thread Eric Van Buggenhaut
Hello, Since your organization is the official authority for maitaining and ISO country codes, I extensively used your page http://www.din.de/gremien/nas/nabd/iso3166ma/ for the last, in need of a list of ISO 3166 country codes. The page web claims to list the ISO country codes as used in the In

Re: default font resolution in X Windows

2001-09-20 Thread David Starner
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 07:37:59PM +0200, Roberto Suarez Soto wrote: > On Sep/20/2001, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > Because of the popularity of 17" and larger monitors, and the fact that > > the dpi's actually in use are closer to 100dpi than 75dpi these days. > > So, am I the only one th

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-20 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 04:37:45PM +0100, Nick Phillips wrote: > Besides, it was probably the ignorant Brits on the committee that decided > on the codes that insisted that they didn't like "UK" :( Well, UK is rather improper for a country code, because that is an acronym for a generic term. Same

Re: default font resolution in X Windows

2001-09-20 Thread Roberto Suarez Soto
On Sep/20/2001, Branden Robinson wrote: > Because of the popularity of 17" and larger monitors, and the fact that > the dpi's actually in use are closer to 100dpi than 75dpi these days. So, am I the only one that even in 17" monitors uses 75dpi fonts? -- Roberto Suarez Soto

Re: Bug#66135: libtool_1.3.5-1(unstable): wrapping of binaries fails with -D__LIBTOOL_IS_A_FOOL__

2001-09-20 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi, On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 04:09:38PM +0200, Domenico Andreoli wrote: > ehm... this bug seems to be preventing lots of packages to make in > testing, shouldn't it get some more attention? I was under the impression this bug was fixed in libtool 1.4.x. Is that not the case? -Ossama -- Ossama O

Re: Purposely broken/uninstallable packages in archive

2001-09-20 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include Norbert Veber wrote on Thu Sep 20, 2001 um 09:58:16AM: > If its not to be installed, it should not be in the archive. This is like > going to a restaurant and being told not to eat a certain dish under any > circumstances because you'll get food poisoning.. :) What is the problem? The

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-20 Thread John Hasler
Nick Phillips writes: > Besides, it was probably the ignorant Brits on the committee that decided > on the codes that insisted that they didn't like "UK" :( But GB is listed opposite "United Kingdom", not "Great Britain". A political compromise, I guess. I assume residents of Northern Ireland su

Re: default font resolution in X Windows

2001-09-20 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 06:10:44PM +0200, Matthias Berse wrote: > Anyway, could you, Branden point out, or give me a pointer to, why > this change happened from using 75dpi to 100dpi? I just want a good > reason to give to all those people, who tell me the fontsize sucks. Because of the popularity

Re: default font resolution in X Windows

2001-09-20 Thread Matthias Berse
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 07:10:47AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 01:22:00PM +0200, Matthias Berse wrote: > > meaning it should be changed back?! Anyway my main concern about the > > font resolution is that many programs break, because they expect the > > fonts being 75dpi

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-20 Thread Nick Phillips
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 07:42:53AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Nick writes: > > So using "GB" as a country code is incorrect, as Great Britain is *NOT* a > > country, really. > > You better have a talk with the ISO about that. [grin] There are enough fucked-up standards out there that one more w

Re: /bin/ls is impure!

2001-09-20 Thread Pekka Lampila
On 19.09.2001, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Norbert Veber wrote: > > > Interesting. How did you obtain the environment dump? > > "set", with no arguments. May be a bashism, though. Not sure. I used the env program. ~$ env --version env (GNU sh-utils) 2.0.11 ~$ env|grep SHELL S

Re: Purposely broken/uninstallable packages in archive

2001-09-20 Thread Steve Greenland
On 19-Sep-01, 18:16 (CDT), Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > read the description for xfsprogs-bf and e2fsprogs-bf, your NOT > SUPPOSED to install them. we need them for boot-floppies. Fine. Why are they in the main archive? If it's so that the bf can access them over the net, then the

Re: Bug#66135: libtool_1.3.5-1(unstable): wrapping of binaries fails with -D__LIBTOOL_IS_A_FOOL__

2001-09-20 Thread Domenico Andreoli
ehm... this bug seems to be preventing lots of packages to make in testing, shouldn't it get some more attention? thanks -[ Domenico Andreoli, aka cavok --[ http://filibusta.crema.unimi.it/~cavok/gpgkey.asc ---[ 3A0F 2F80 F79C 678A 8936 4FEE 0677 9033 A20E BC50

Re: Purposely broken/uninstallable packages in archive

2001-09-20 Thread Norbert Veber
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 03:16:13PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 11:01:24AM -0400, Norbert Veber wrote: > > packages such as diskless-image-secure, diskless-image-simple, xfsprogs-bf, > > e2fsprogs-bf should automatically qualify for grave or even critical bugs > > for breaki

Re: [Maxima] Future of maxima

2001-09-20 Thread Raymond Toy
> "Camm" == Camm Maguire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Camm> Greetings! And thanks for the help that you can give! Camm> Raymond Toy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > "Camm" == Camm Maguire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Camm> Is there any interest in forming a group to

Re: 请教(help!)

2001-09-20 Thread ha shao
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 02:45:18PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > 我从网上下载了xcin_2.5.2-1.deb这个软件。可是我不知道怎么使用。请帮忙。 > (I download the "xcin_2.5.2-1.deb",but I don't know how to use it.Please > help me for it.) Please use English in this list. If you want to use Chinese, you can go to debian-

Re: 请教(help!)

2001-09-20 Thread MH
(Followup-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org) There you'll get the appropriate answers ... (your friend is dpkg -i xxx.deb ; but you should have a look at the debian package-management: man dpkg ; man apt-get ; man dselect ;or just install the apt-dpkg-ref and/or apt-howto packages for example [af

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-20 Thread John Hasler
Nick writes: > So using "GB" as a country code is incorrect, as Great Britain is *NOT* a > country, really. You better have a talk with the ISO about that. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: default font resolution in X Windows

2001-09-20 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 01:22:00PM +0200, Matthias Berse wrote: > meaning it should be changed back?! Anyway my main concern about the > font resolution is that many programs break, because they expect the > fonts being 75dpi. File bugs against those programs. -- G. Branden Robinson

Re: default font resolution in X Windows

2001-09-20 Thread Matthias Berse
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 11:08:48AM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: > Matthias Berse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So why has this change made? Sorry if that's an faq. Maybe the answer > > should be included in the note. > > I just wanted to start arguing that 100dpi matched the real > resolution us

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-20 Thread Nick Phillips
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 02:37:15PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > While en_GB is english as spoken in Great Britain. Perhpas one of the > residents thereof can explain the difference. Great Britain == England, Wales, Scotland United Kingdom == England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland British Isle

Bug#112885: marked as done ()

2001-09-20 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Thu, 20 Sep 2001 12:14:06 +0200 with message-id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and subject line Bug#112885: has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reop

Bug#112885:

2001-09-20 Thread Telmo Frias
Package: general Severity: normal Version: >Synopsis: >Class: sw-bug Distribution: Red Hat Linux release 6.2 (Zoot) System: Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i686 unknown Debugging information: (no debugging symbols found)... Core was generated by `/usr/lib/netscape/netscape-communicator -irix-session-managem

Re: default font resolution in X Windows

2001-09-20 Thread Andreas Metzler
Matthias Berse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You should be aware that, by default, xinit (and thus startx) starts the X >> server using the "-dpi 100" argument, which forces the X server to treat >> the display as having 100 dots per inch. [...] > So why has this change made? Sorry if that's an

Re: Debian testing - uninstallable packages

2001-09-20 Thread Martin Schulze
Andrew M. Bishop wrote: > [ I sent this to debian-testing a month ago, but the mailing list ] > [ doesn't exist anymore - it is not archived at http://list.debian.org/ ] > [ If there is a more appropriate list for this discussion let me know. ] The list does exist. For some reason it wasn'

Re: proposal for an Apache (web server) task force

2001-09-20 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As an alternative Ardo could invent [EMAIL PROTECTED] as > simple alias. Out of curiosity: what is required in order for [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be distributed to several people? Is this automated? -- Marcelo | "Dock-a-loodle-fod!" [

Re: proposal for an Apache (web server) task force

2001-09-20 Thread Martin Schulze
Martin F Krafft wrote: > also sprach Ardo van Rangelrooij (on Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:42:44AM) > > I would like to propose to form an Apache (web server) task force to > > maintain the Apache packages currently maintained by Johnie Ingram > > (netgod) (and potentially related packages if the need arise

Re: Running dpkg -r foo from a postinst script?

2001-09-20 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 01:23:03AM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Ola Lundqvist wrote: > > How it it done when the base system is istalled? It removes (it the > > user tells so) the pcmcia and ppp packages. > > That's not run from dpkg but from a special script that is run during > sy

Re: Running dpkg -r foo from a postinst script?

2001-09-20 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 03:49:28PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > On 19-Sep-2001 Ola Lundqvist wrote: > > Hi > > > > I have a simple question. Is it possible to run dpkg -r foo > > from within a postinst-script when using dselect or apt? > > > > What is the result? > > > > It whould be v

Re: [Maxima] Future of maxima

2001-09-20 Thread Tuukka Toivonen
On 19 Sep 2001, Camm Maguire wrote: > Is there any interest in forming a group to continue the development > and maintenance of maxima? I for one would certainly be interested in Definitely. Unfortunately, Maxima is very alien to me. I have been learning LISP just to work with Maxima, but unfort

请教(help!)

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Re: Purposely broken/uninstallable packages in archive

2001-09-20 Thread Junichi Uekawa
severity 112723 critical thanks David Starner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit > On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 02:20:31PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > > This is, IMO a bogus bug. > > Go and fix a real bug. There are enough already. > > A package that will do grave damage to your system if inst

Re: Purposely broken/uninstallable packages in archive

2001-09-20 Thread David Starner
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 02:20:31PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > This is, IMO a bogus bug. > Go and fix a real bug. There are enough already. A package that will do grave damage to your system if installed is not a real bug? -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug

Re: iso 8859-6 fonts

2001-09-20 Thread David Starner
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 04:03:11PM -0700, Sulaiman Fahad Alhasawi wrote: > I dont find any packge that supports iso 8859-6 > -- that is arabic fonts . Try iso10646-1 fonts. The fixed fonts at 10x20, 9x15, 9x15B and helvR12 all have most of the Arabic characters, as does the GNU Unifont. You migh

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-20 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit > IIRC, the UK is England, Wales and Scotland, while Great Britain includes > Northern Ireland, and a few other colonies. The other way around. UK is the country, GB is the island. regards, junichi -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www

Re: Purposely broken/uninstallable packages in archive

2001-09-20 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit A note. > Good. Send me a patch. > I will apply it. ... after woody, probably. It has been there since potato, and I don't think I will make a last minute change to a package. This is, IMO a bogus bug. Go and fix a real bug. There are enou