Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 11:58:56AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Moreover, most of Windows users are running their home OS with the > administration rights all day long, they used to download and install > lots of non-opened freeware from the web. True (I did it as well) > Well, they just d

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Folkert wrote: > On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 10:55 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: >> Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Uh, I wrote this level, but I'm going to snip anyway, just didn't want someone else to get the credit for writing the stupid stuff that I do. ;) [s

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On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 10:55 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > > Jim Hyslop wrote: > >> Ron Johnson wrote: > >>> There's [...] no need for Symantec anti-virus > >>> products. > >> I'm curious why you say that. I'm fairly new to Linux, but I understand > >> it is more robust and s

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/20/07 04:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Moreover, most of Windows users are running their home OS with the > administration rights all day long, they used to download and install > lots of non-opened freeware from the web. > > Well, they just

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

Moreover, most of Windows users are running their home OS with the administration rights all day long, they used to download and install lots of non-opened freeware from the web. Well, they just do lots of important/dangerous/admin tasks that should be done normally with a lot of care. Linux le

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Jim Hyslop wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >>> There's [...] no need for Symantec anti-virus >>> products. >> I'm curious why you say that. I'm fairly new to Linux, but I understand >> it is more robust and secure than MS Wind

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Jim Hyslop wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> There's [...] no need for Symantec anti-virus >> products. > > I'm curious why you say that. I'm fairly new to Linux, but I understand > it is more robust and secure than MS Windows. Still, it's not totally > secure - nothing made by humans could be. So, d

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

Listas Locatel wrote: > Johannes Wiedersich escribió: >> Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:43:30PM -0400, Jim Hyslop wrote: >>> If I had immediately followed with some outrageous claim that Windows is better and has fewer security holes because >>> reason>,

Re: Evo vs. Icedove (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 01:20 +0100, Ananda Samaddar wrote: > On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 14:39:05 -0400 > Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 13:15 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > How much memory does Evo use? I switched from Evo to ID because > of > > > bloat and Evo's tie

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--- Johannes Wiedersich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:43:30PM -0400, Jim > Hyslop wrote: > >> If I had immediately followed with some > outrageous claim that Windows is > >> better and has fewer security holes because > , > >> *THEN* you cou

Re: Evo vs. Icedove (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/02/07 19:20, Ananda Samaddar wrote: [snip] > Thought I'd just stick my oar in and recommend Sylpheed as a Gtk > based mail client it's extremely fast and configurable and has > all the functionality you'll probably need (except html mail). > It s

Re: Evo vs. Icedove (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 14:39:05 -0400 Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 13:15 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > How much memory does Evo use? I switched from Evo to ID because of > > bloat and Evo's ties to GNOME, but ID has RES 81m and SHR 23m. So > > I'm thinking of rein

Re: Evo vs. Icedove (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 13:15 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > How much memory does Evo use? I switched from Evo to ID because of > bloat and Evo's ties to GNOME, but ID has RES 81m and SHR 23m. So > I'm thinking of reinstalling Evo. > Using XFce as my environment, while replying to your message:

Evo vs. Icedove (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/02/07 12:12, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 12:43 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:36:43PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: >>> On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 09:02 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 200

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 17:04 +, Joe Hart wrote: > Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 09:02 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:56:26PM +, Joe Hart wrote: > >>> LOL. > >>> > >>> Roberto, I apologize for my lousy MUA (IceDove) butchering your name. > >>>

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 12:43 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:36:43PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 09:02 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:56:26PM +, Joe Hart wrote: > > > > > > > > LOL. > > > > > > > > Roberto, I

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Folkert wrote: > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 09:02 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:56:26PM +, Joe Hart wrote: >>> LOL. >>> >>> Roberto, I apologize for my lousy MUA (IceDove) butchering your name. >>> >> No worries. I

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:36:43PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 09:02 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:56:26PM +, Joe Hart wrote: > > > > > > LOL. > > > > > > Roberto, I apologize for my lousy

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 09:02 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:56:26PM +, Joe Hart wrote: > > > > LOL. > > > > Roberto, I apologize for my lousy MUA (IceDove) butchering your name. > > > No worries. I only recently decided to increase my level of > nonconformance

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:56:26PM +, Joe Hart wrote: > > LOL. > > Roberto, I apologize for my lousy MUA (IceDove) butchering your name. > No worries. I only recently decided to increase my level of nonconformance by including and accented character in my last name. This has to do with my r

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto � wrote: > On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:14:57PM +, Joe Hart wrote: >> I agree with you. I guess we don't need to debate the issue since your >> statements were not based on sound logic, rather they were just echoing >> the stupidity of the m

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On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:14:57PM +, Joe Hart wrote: > > I agree with you. I guess we don't need to debate the issue since your > statements were not based on sound logic, rather they were just echoing > the stupidity of the masses. > Hi! You must be new here :-) That has never before sto

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Joe Hart wrote: >> Johannes Wiedersich wrote: >>> Roberto C. S�nchez wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:43:30PM -0400, Jim Hyslop wrote: > If I had immediately followed with some outrageous claim that Windows is >>>

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

Joe Hart wrote: > Johannes Wiedersich wrote: >> Roberto C. S�nchez wrote: >>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:43:30PM -0400, Jim Hyslop wrote: If I had immediately followed with some outrageous claim that Windows is better and has fewer security holes because , *THEN* you could accuse m

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

Johannes Wiedersich escribió: Listas Locatel wrote: Johannes Wiedersich escribió: Windows *is* better, since it has more users than any other OS, and those simply can't be wrong. The same applies to M$ office. ??? think you that windows is better ?? No. In continuation

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Roberto C. S�nchez wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:43:30PM -0400, Jim Hyslop wrote: >>> If I had immediately followed with some outrageous claim that Windows is >>> better and has fewer security holes because , >>> *TH

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

Listas Locatel wrote: > Johannes Wiedersich escribió: >> Windows *is* better, since it has more users than any other OS, and >> those simply can't be wrong. The same applies to M$ office. >> > > ??? think you that windows is better ?? No. In continuation to Roberto's irony, I just 'quote' wha

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

Johannes Wiedersich escribió: Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:43:30PM -0400, Jim Hyslop wrote: If I had immediately followed with some outrageous claim that Windows is better and has fewer security holes because , *THEN* you could accuse me of spreading FUD.

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:43:30PM -0400, Jim Hyslop wrote: >> If I had immediately followed with some outrageous claim that Windows is >> better and has fewer security holes because , >> *THEN* you could accuse me of spreading FUD. >> > Windows *is* better, since Micros

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 12:51:54PM EDT, Andrei Popescu wrote: > Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 11:07:37 +0300 > > Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 03:44:18 +0300 > > > > Andrei Po

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 19:51:54 +0300 Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 11:07:37 +0300 > > Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 03:44:18 +0300 >

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 11:07:37 +0300 > Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 03:44:18 +0300 > > > Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > An interesti

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 11:43:09 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 04/01/07 11:26, Celejar wrote: > > On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 11:07:37 +0300 > > Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/01/07 11:26, Celejar wrote: > On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 11:07:37 +0300 > Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 03:44:18 +0300 >>> Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> [

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 11:07:37 +0300 Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 03:44:18 +0300 > > Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > > An interesting trend is that some small businesses who can't afford >

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

Michael M. writes: > With Debian, there currently isn't any commercial premium support for > these people to turn to. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 17:25 -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> That is awesome news! Thanks for sharing it. Now I just hope that the > >> Dell systems come pre-installed with Debian! > > > > As much as I lik

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 03:44:18 +0300 > Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > > > An interesting trend is that some small businesses who can't afford > > to run pirated software, but also don't want/can't afford to pay > > for MS Office are usin

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 03:44:18 +0300 Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > An interesting trend is that some small businesses who can't afford to > run pirated software, but also don't want/can't afford to pay for MS > Office are using OpenOffice. Only those who "can't afford to run p

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrei Popescu wrote: > Jim Hyslop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Hey, watch where you sling your insults there, buddy! :-) > > I think it sounded harsher than it was meant. Sorry for that. Oh, I wasn't /really/ offended, I was just exaggerating my rea

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Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> That is awesome news! Thanks for sharing it. Now I just hope that > >> the Dell systems come pre-installed with Debian! > > > > As much as I like Debian, but

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

Andrei Popescu wrote: > Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> That is awesome news! Thanks for sharing it. Now I just hope that the >> Dell systems come pre-installed with Debian! > > As much as I like Debian, but wouldn't Ubuntu make a better option? > Actually no! If they go

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 20:05, Andrei Popescu wrote: > Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> That is awesome news! Thanks for sharing it. Now I just hope that the >> Dell systems come pre-installed with Debian! > > As much as I like Debian, but w

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 20:26, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Every time I see a Cajun Cuisine restaurant, I laugh at how stupid >> people are. Cajun food is (ok, *was*) about as poor-folks as you >> can get. > > Economics notw

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 08:03 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > Wow, I had no idea that that German company had infiltrated the US, I > new the Dutch company Ahold had plenty of stores under different names) > but Aldi? Do you have any Lidl stores around? They are major > competitors of Aldi in Germany and

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On (31/03/07 12:51), Andrei Popescu wrote: > But the example of Apache demonstrates that this is a non-issue. And > it's not me saying this. Have a look at > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10/22/linux_v_windows_security/ > > and the entire report referenced there. Interesting... thanks Reg

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Jim Hyslop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: > > Jim Hyslop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>attacks against Linux. Linux may be a much more robust and secure > >>system than Windows, but there are probably still security holes > >>lurking that nobody (at least, no honest person) ha

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nigel Henry wrote: > On Friday 30 March 2007 22:43, Greg Folkert wrote: >> On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 22:19 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: >>> Greg Folkert wrote: On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 14:46 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/30/07 13:59, John Hasler wrote:

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Folkert wrote: > On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 22:19 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: >> Greg Folkert wrote: >>> On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 14:46 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/30/07 13:59, John Hasler wrote: > Ron Johnson writes: >> We buy the cheapest *w

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:43:30PM -0400, Jim Hyslop wrote: > > If I had immediately followed with some outrageous claim that Windows is > better and has fewer security holes because , > *THEN* you could accuse me of spreading FUD. > Windows *is* better, since Microsoft reports much fewer bugs th

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrei Popescu wrote: > Jim Hyslop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>attacks against Linux. Linux may be a much more robust and secure >>system than Windows, but there are probably still security holes >>lurking that nobody (at least, no honest person) has

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 08:32:38PM EST, John C wrote: > > > >>``Microsoft Tax''. > > > >without "representation" .. > > > >So when's our Boston Tea Party? > > > > It's in progress courtesy of Richard Stallman. > > "Free Software Foundation (FSF) *Boston Mass*" > > :-) You're good .. :-) N

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 02:02:54PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Jim Hyslop writes: > > It seems to me the way to go, if you're willing to risk not having a > > warranty, is to demand the refund from the manufacturers. If enough > > people demand it, then Dell, HP et al will start getting tired of pa

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 01:14:44PM -0500, Seth Goodman wrote: > Paul Walsh wrote on Friday, March 30, 2007 2:23 AM -0600: > > > Seth Goodman wrote: > > > > > Most people could not complete a Linux install without a phone call > > > to tech support. I suspect that's one part of the reason there ar

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Every time I see a Cajun Cuisine restaurant, I laugh at how stupid > people are. Cajun food is (ok, *was*) about as poor-folks as you > can get. Economics notwithstanding, the food is still double-danged delicious! That's what counts to me. I like 'soul'

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 09:51:16AM EST, Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 08:57:02 -0500 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 03/30/07 08:23, Celejar wrote: > > > On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:45:13 -0500 > > > John Hasler <[EMAIL

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``Microsoft Tax''. without "representation" .. So when's our Boston Tea Party? It's in progress courtesy of Richard Stallman. "Free Software Foundation (FSF) *Boston Mass*" :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROT

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That is awesome news! Thanks for sharing it. Now I just hope that the > Dell systems come pre-installed with Debian! As much as I like Debian, but wouldn't Ubuntu make a better option? Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don'

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

Zbigniew Wiech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (Dell's price) > > Doesn't basic economics dictate that given competition, the > > equilibrium price is determined by both supply and demand? Even if > > I'm willing to pay a great deal, if the cost to produce the item is > > low, competition should driv

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Jim Hyslop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > John Hasler wrote: > > Linux will not be commonplace on [desk|lap]tops until major hardware > > vendors ship it (not that I care all that much). > attacks against Linux. Linux may be a much more robust an

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On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 04:00:48PM EST, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 02:40:22PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > Every time I see a Cajun Cuisine restaurant, I laugh at how stupid > > people are. Cajun food is (ok, *was*) about as poor-folks as you > > can get. Tells you

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 04:01:41AM EST, Max Hyre wrote: >Dear Debianistas: > > John Hasler wrote: > > The manufacturer may be paying Microsoft a fixed fee for > > every machine he ships rather than for every copy of > > Microsoft Windows he ships. This makes sense when nearly > > every machin

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Jim Hyslop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm curious why you say that. I'm fairly new to Linux, but I > understand it is more robust and secure than MS Windows. Still, it's definitely ;) > not totally secure - nothing made by humans could be. So, do you mean unfortunately :( > that there's no n

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CaT writes: > FWIW, the diagnostics, etc CD that Dell ships with servers is Linux > based. > ... > I've just got the actual CDs that I've poked around. Does it include source? If not did you receive a written offer to provide it? -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] w

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

All* rechargable AA batteries are 1.2v whilst normal AA batteries are 1.5v. How embarrassing. I guess the battery was just broken then. There are a lot of other arguments against Sony still. -- Software is like sex: it is better when it is free.

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

Paul Walsh wrote: > Passed to me by a colleague: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6506027.stm > > *grin* > That is awesome news! Thanks for sharing it. Now I just hope that the Dell systems come pre-installed with Debian! raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/

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On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 01:11:06AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > > > tech support folks stop saying 'but you need to use windows for us to > > > diagnose the problem before we can authorizes this' or similar. > > > > FWIW, the diagnostics, etc CD that Dell ships with servers is Linux > > based. > >

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On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 01:13:44AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 02:38:04PM +1000, CaT wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 12:19:39AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > > > > The sensible way to handle hardware support independent of any installed > > > > software would be to ship each

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 06:49:35PM -0300, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: > quality), and I tried again. Then with a better recharger. I eventually gave > up and put the batteries away. One year later, I looked at the batteries and > realized why they did not work. > They were Sony batteries. O

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

I'll go out on a short limb and say that more than 95% of the stuff Aldi carries that has direct "brand-name" equivalents, is better tasting... This reminds me of restaurants. I like the small, family food ones 10 times better than the expensive ones. I prefer tasty food over fancy food that t

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

On Friday 30 March 2007 22:43, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 22:19 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > > Greg Folkert wrote: > > > On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 14:46 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > >> On 03/30/07 13:59, John Hasler wrote: > > >>> Ron Johnson writes: > > We buy the cheapest *whole* w

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 15:52, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: >> >> I mean, since the price difference is so HUGE and the quality is mostly >> as good or even better, why Aldi is not deluged by people from open to >> close, I'll never know. > > For the same

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On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:41:31 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/30/07 15:14, John Hasler wrote: > > Ron Johnson writes: > >> We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that > >> doesn't taste like crumbly cardbo

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 05:52:14PM -0300, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: > > ET: Why do people kill each other and go to wars over this "diamond" > substance? What is it for? > > Me: Well, aside from its industrial applications, people want it for the > precise reason that it is hard to get.

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On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 02:40:22PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Every time I see a Cajun Cuisine restaurant, I laugh at how stupid > people are. Cajun food is (ok, *was*) about as poor-folks as you > can get. > The same can be said of barbacoa (originally a Mexican peasant food), paella (origin

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

I mean, since the price difference is so HUGE and the quality is mostly as good or even better, why Aldi is not deluged by people from open to close, I'll never know. For the same reason people want SUVs. For the same reason women like gold and diamond. For the same reason people want brand clo

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 22:19 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 14:46 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 03/30/07 13:59, John Hasler wrote: > >>> Ron Johnson writes: > We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that doesn't > taste like cr

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 15:14, John Hasler wrote: > Ron Johnson writes: >> We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that doesn't >> taste like crumbly cardboard. > > I wrote: >> See? You're picky. > > Ron Johnson writes: >> Taste pickiness !=

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

Greg Folkert writes: > We buy Bread at Aldi. $0.45 a loaf or $0.15 a loaf when trying to sell > off before tomorrow's shipment. Seem pretty much everything is that way > at Aldi. My wife shops at Aldi's. It's an interesting company. Most retailers are terrified of WalMart but Aldi's deliberately

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Ron Johnson writes: > We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that doesn't > taste like crumbly cardboard. I wrote: > See? You're picky. Ron Johnson writes: > Taste pickiness != snob pickiness. (Although snobs like to pretend it > is.) Didn't say it was. However, if the ch

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Folkert wrote: > On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 14:46 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 03/30/07 13:59, John Hasler wrote: >>> Ron Johnson writes: We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the loca

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On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 14:46 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/30/07 13:59, John Hasler wrote: > > Ron Johnson writes: > >> We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that doesn't > >> taste like crumbly cardboard. > > > > See? Y

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 14:11, Joe Hart wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 03/30/07 11:44, Joe Hart wrote: >> [snip] >>> Needless to say, we are indeed in the midst of a flamewar, regardless >> This a flame war? > >>> whether one things that google has become a mo

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 13:59, John Hasler wrote: > Ron Johnson writes: >> We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that doesn't >> taste like crumbly cardboard. > > See? You're picky. Taste pickiness != snob pickiness. (Although snobs like t

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 13:49, John Hasler wrote: > Greg Folkert writes: >> Which is exactly why the US (in general) has a preference for [white >> bread]. > > When my wife was living in Paris forty years ago and expressed an interest > in dark bread her French r

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 13:51, Jim Hyslop wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> There's [...] no need for Symantec anti-virus >> products. > > I'm curious why you say that. I'm fairly new to Linux, but I understand > it is more robust and secure than MS Windows. Still,

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Jim Hyslop writes: > It seems to me the way to go, if you're willing to risk not having a > warranty, is to demand the refund from the manufacturers. If enough > people demand it, then Dell, HP et al will start getting tired of paying > twice - once to MS and once to the consumer. As far as I can

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Ron Johnson writes: > We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that doesn't > taste like crumbly cardboard. See? You're picky. Cathy Consumer buys the cheapest white bread, full stop. > Look at the ingredients list of white bread and whole wheat bread. Just did (though we don

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/30/07 11:44, Joe Hart wrote: > [snip] >> Needless to say, we are indeed in the midst of a flamewar, regardless > > This a flame war? > >> whether one things that google has become a monopoly or not. > > But I see you're tr

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Greg Folkert writes: > Which is exactly why the US (in general) has a preference for [white > bread]. When my wife was living in Paris forty years ago and expressed an interest in dark bread her French roommates were appalled that she would want to eat peasant food. > Think for instance, trying t

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Seth Goodman writes: > As far as separating hardware from software issues, the suggestion of a > live CD for hardware diagnostics is a good one. Unfortunately, when an > unsophisticated user calls, you still have to spend time convincing them > to run the hardware diagnostic CD first, and that cos

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 13:25, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 12:41 -0500, John Hasler wrote: >> Greg Folkert writes: >>> Ratio of White flour to Wheat flour? What do you guess? >>> 6-7 white flour train cars to 1 Wheat flour. We are talking 160,000 >

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On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 14:34 -0400, Jim Hyslop wrote: > John Hasler wrote: > > Linux will not be commonplace on [desk|lap]tops until major hardware > > vendors ship it (not that I care all that much). > > Maybe you should care a little more :-) > > The way I see it, making Linux more popular is a

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > There's [...] no need for Symantec anti-virus > products. I'm curious why you say that. I'm fairly new to Linux, but I understand it is more robust and secure than MS Windows. Still, it's not totally secure - nothing made by human

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gnu_Raiz wrote: > What I am wondering is when will the lost sales to consumers who want > Gnu/Linux on their boxes will outway the extra cost. In other words at > what cost say Gnu/linux offer >= lost sales. It seems to me the way to go, if you're

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Hasler wrote: > Linux will not be commonplace on [desk|lap]tops until major hardware > vendors ship it (not that I care all that much). Maybe you should care a little more :-) The way I see it, making Linux more popular is a two-edged sword. Cur

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On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 01:10:37PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/30/07 11:00, Paul E Condon wrote: > [snip] > > I didn't follow your argument, but of course Microsoft is a > > monopoly. There is no monopoly in the computer hardware manufactur

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 11:44, Joe Hart wrote: [snip] > > Needless to say, we are indeed in the midst of a flamewar, regardless This a flame war? > whether one things that google has become a monopoly or not. But I see you're trying to pour gas on the fire. -

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On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 12:41 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Greg Folkert writes: > > Ratio of White flour to Wheat flour? What do you guess? > > > 6-7 white flour train cars to 1 Wheat flour. We are talking 160,000 > > pounds each train car. Each car being a 100 ton car. > > Sounds like a plausible r

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 10:35, John Hasler wrote: > Celejar writes: >> Doesn't basic economics dictate that given competition, the equilibrium >> price is determined by both supply and demand? Even if I'm willing to pay >> a great deal, if the cost to produce the

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