Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-08 Thread Gour
Thierry de Coulon writes: Hello Thierry. > This being said, "pure" wheezy simply can't work on my machine (no graphics, > no network, not even a hard disc...) so the only other choice is another > distribution until Jessie becomes stable. > > I can't stand Ubuntu(s), but openSuSE ssems OK (eve

Auto-emptying of trash.

2014-06-08 Thread Sharon Kimble
Revisiting a question that I asked in March last year about how to auto-empty a trash bin. This has worked very well until today, when on one of my drives it also deleted the trash bin as well, so my follow-on script to give me the size of my trash bin failed as there wasn’t a trash bin to evaluat

Re: Auto-emptying of trash.

2014-06-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
That's strange, since "rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty" seemingly shouldn't remove the directory. I wasn't aware about this, so I tested it, resp. compared it to "rm -r" [1]. Perhaps you should post the complete script, the culprit seems not to be "rmdir". [1] [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ touch ~/

Re: Auto-emptying of trash.

2014-06-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2014-06-08 at 10:40 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > That's strange, since "rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty" seemingly > shouldn't remove the directory. I wasn't aware about this, so I tested > it, resp. compared it to "rm -r" [1]. > > Perhaps you should post the complete script, the culprit

Re: Auto-emptying of trash.

2014-06-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2014-06-08 at 10:44 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2014-06-08 at 10:40 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > That's strange, since "rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty" seemingly > > shouldn't remove the directory. I wasn't aware about this, so I tested > > it, resp. compared it to "rm -r" [1].

Re: Killfiling: was Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 8/06/2014 4:48 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > As we can see now, killfiling Horatio or banning him from the list is > impossible, he simply will use another email address. > > Jerry, did you notice that there also was sent a mail to the Debian > off-topic list, most likely from Horatio, using the >

Re: Auto-emptying of trash.

2014-06-08 Thread Filip
Sharon Kimble writes: > Revisiting a question that I asked in March last year about how to > auto-empty a trash bin. > > This has worked very well until today, when on one of my drives it > also deleted the trash bin as well, so my follow-on script to give > me the size of my trash bin failed as

Re: Gnome 2, 3.. And then 2 ?

2014-06-08 Thread Diogene Laerce
>> Have you consulted the Debian Reference Manual before you posted your >> question here? >> >> Don't be another Horatio. >> >> >> Jerry S. > > Warning - faker here. Check the email headers - this was NOT from my > account. Most of the time I don't even bother to respond to that kind

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 08 June 2014 00:05:10 lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: > It is not racism, the meaning is: "someone who wants to control the > World". That is not just racist, but extraordinarily offensive and laughably inaccurate. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with

Re: Auto-emptying of trash.

2014-06-08 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Sun, 08 Jun 2014 09:03:48 +0100 Sharon Kimble napísal: > Revisiting a question that I asked in March last year about how to > auto-empty a trash bin. > I am created this for cca 2 years (sorry, comments in my language). It takes mount points for block devices, check the Trash-* dirs

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-08 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 7 Jun 2014 23:10:02 +0100 Lisi Reisz napísal: > I prefer aptitude because I know what I am doing with it (sort of) > and because I don't have such a plethora of commands: apt-get, > apt-cache, apt-file etc. to remember. But I use apt-x on occasion > since it is no longer recommen

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-08 Thread Gour
Slavko writes: > Then i run aptitude and after some keypress is see, that there is one > conflict with some co-package (cgi plugin) from old uwsgi version. I must say that I'm still quite noobie when it comes to package management on Debian mostly using apt-get/synaptic and I read/heard somewher

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 08 iun 14, 12:27:04, Gour wrote: > Slavko writes: > > > Then i run aptitude and after some keypress is see, that there is one > > conflict with some co-package (cgi plugin) from old uwsgi version. > > I must say that I'm still quite noobie when it comes to package > management on Debian m

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 07 iun 14, 09:48:44, Thierry de Coulon wrote: > Hello all, > > I've lived for years using synaptic and I am no so used to aptitude - and I > don't want to make mistakes... > > Possibly my installation is now in such a state that I should reinstall, but > everything *is* working. Anyway:

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-08 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Sun, 08 Jun 2014 12:27:04 +0200 Gour napísal: > Slavko writes: > > > Then i run aptitude and after some keypress is see, that there is > > one conflict with some co-package (cgi plugin) from old uwsgi > > version. > > I must say that I'm still quite noobie when it comes to package >

Re: Auto-emptying of trash.

2014-06-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 8/06/2014 6:03 PM, Sharon Kimble wrote: > Revisiting a question that I asked in March last year about how to > auto-empty a trash bin. > > This has worked very well until today, when on one of my drives it > also deleted the trash bin as well, so my follow-on script to give > me the size of my

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-08 Thread David Dušanić
08.06.2014, 12:27, "Gour" : > > I must say that I'm still quite noobie when it comes to package > management on Debian mostly using apt-get/synaptic and I > read/heard somewhere that for Sid those are recommended over aptitude? > > Do I miss something and/or what would be recommended procedure for

Re: Killfiling: was Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 6/8/2014 2:48 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > As we can see now, killfiling Horatio or banning him from the list is > impossible, he simply will use another email address. > > Jerry, did you notice that there also was sent a mail to the Debian > off-topic list, most likely from Horatio, using the >

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 08 June 2014 12:55:26 Slavko wrote: > Migration from apt-get/aptitude to Synaptic must be safe. The problem > in opposite direction, i.e. from Synaptic to apt-get/aptitude, where > Synaptic lack some functionality about the marking/removing > the automatically installed packages. I have

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-08 Thread D.E. Bil
On Sun, Jun 08, 2014 at 01:55:26PM +0200, Slavko wrote: > AFAIK, the functionality of the apt-get and aptitude is compatible in > these days, with only one difference - the ncurses interface in > aptitude. And more human-readable logs in /var/log/aptitude. -- debil :wq -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-08 Thread Gour
Andrei POPESCU writes: > Especially on sid aptitude (in interactive mode) can be very useful, but > beware of #570377. Hmm.. > There is no procedure, just use which one you like/need/etc. Iirc, one has to be careful when migrating from one tool to the other in order not to end up with many un

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-08 Thread Gour
Slavko writes: > You can simply ignore the sid word in my post. Ahh, OK. Good to know. ;) > Using Synaptic seems to be safe (in mean of the original problem in this > thread). Maybe I shoud read the whole thread... > AFAIK, the functionality of the apt-get and aptitude is compatible in > thes

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-08 Thread Gour
David Dušanić writes: > I think you can also use aptitude on sid but I really prefer apt. So, you believe aptitude is no better than apt in resolve package deps (in Sid) ? Sincerely, Gour -- In this endeavor there is no loss or diminution, and a little advancement on this path can protect

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-08 Thread Bzzz
On Sun, 08 Jun 2014 15:04:17 +0200 Gour wrote: > I do not mind the interface, just wondering which is more suitable > for Sid considering that the dynamic of admin work is a bit > different than when one uses stable distro? I use synaptic and sometimes dselect (much more on stable). Synaptic ma

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-08 Thread Gour
"D.E. Bil" writes: > And more human-readable logs in /var/log/aptitude. That's a good point. Thanks. Sincerely, Gour -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.de

Which 'package' to choose for updating google chrome ?

2014-06-08 Thread Trudi
Hi I am using an ASUS Transformer Book. Not only are there no useful manuals but also no help from Asus either online OR by telephone, issues go unsolved. It's annoying since they are not cheap. My issue is that the android/tablet part of the Asus Transformer keeps saying google chrome needs upda

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 08 iun 14, 15:00:58, Gour wrote: > Andrei POPESCU writes: > > > Especially on sid aptitude (in interactive mode) can be very useful, but > > beware of #570377. > > Hmm.. I'm right now testing this in apt.conf // tweak Aptitude to not suggest removals as first option Aptitude::ProblemRe

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 08 iun 14, 15:07:31, Gour wrote: > David Dušanić writes: > > > I think you can also use aptitude on sid but I really prefer apt. > > So, you believe aptitude is no better than apt in resolve package deps > (in Sid) ? aptitude and apt have different resolvers. At some point in time apti

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 08 iun 14, 14:19:26, David Dušanić wrote: > > I think running sid is just a matter of how good you can "drive" the > Debian package manager, be it aptitude or apt. That's a fairly good description in my opinion :) > But I would never use something graphical (synaptic) to make my > upgra

Re: Abusive, Insulting and Off Topic e-mails do not belong on debian-user or any other Debian Mailing list.

2014-06-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 8/06/2014 10:58 AM, Don Armstrong wrote: > In the past few days, there have been many insulting, abusive and off > topic messages sent to this mailing list. For the public record, I need to make it clear that posts made by an aggrieved other user of this mailing list have no merit. Such fraudu

Re: Which 'package' to choose for updating google chrome ?

2014-06-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 08 iun 14, 21:40:48, Trudi wrote: > > My issue is that the android/tablet part of the Asus Transformer keeps > saying google chrome needs updating. If your tablet is running Android then you have to update it using its usual mechanisms (whichever those might be, I'm not familiar with A

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 08 iun 14, 14:11:58, Richard Hector wrote: > On 08/06/14 14:00, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > Richard, this was NOT my post. This is a fraud. See the headers. > > Acknowledged. It's sad - do we need to start signing all mailing list > posts? Why not? Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debi

Re: Jessie PowerPC installer doesn't see USB keyboard on PowerPC Mac machines

2014-06-08 Thread Stephen Allen
On Sun, Jun 08, 2014 at 12:14:56AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2014-06-07 at 15:04 -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: > > Hmmm... > > > > I originally reported this back in November. > > > > After a while, it went away for me. Downloading the latest (about January > > time-frame) "netinst" imag

Re: Abusive, Insulting and Off Topic e-mails do not belong on debian-user or any other Debian Mailing list.

2014-06-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 08 June 2014 15:32:20 Andrew McGlashan wrote: > Such fraudulent posts have been made using both his/her own mail address > and what appears to be at least one /special fraudulent/ address created > expressly for the purpose of spreading misrepresentation about other > members of this list

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-08 Thread Stephen Allen
On Sat, Jun 07, 2014 at 09:57:39PM +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote: > Thierry de Coulon: > > > > I've lived for years using synaptic and I am no so used to aptitude - and I > > don't want to make mistakes... > > In addition to the good advice regarding automatically installed > packages that has alr

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-08 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 06/08/2014 11:03 AM, Stephen Allen wrote: > On Sat, Jun 07, 2014 at 09:57:39PM +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote: > >> Thierry de Coulon: >>> >>> I've lived for years using synaptic and I am no so used to >>> aptitude - and I don't want to make mista

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 07 iun 14, 22:23:12, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > I agree signing would help - but you're right, I don't know who many > people's public keys are - either here or anywhere else. Joining Debian's Web of Trust would be a very good starting point, especially since we are using Debian ;) $ gpg -

GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 9/06/2014 1:16 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > $ gpg --list-sigs EF22341C > pub 4096R/EF22341C 2013-07-28 > uid Andrei Mircea POPESCU > sig 3EF22341C 2013-07-28 Andrei Mircea POPESCU > > sig DEA22DE9 2013-07-28 Andrei Popescu > sig 3EF22341C 2013-07-

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Bzzz
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 01:43:28 +1000 Andrew McGlashan wrote: > > If one is living in the USA or western Europe getting one's key > > signed shouldn't be too difficult. > > How about Australia? Not allowed: if you sign your e-mails, they'll blacklist you, you'll suffer a kangaroo invasion in your

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 09 iun 14, 01:43:28, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > > And the fingerprint? $ gpg --fingerprint EF22341C pub 4096R/EF22341C 2013-07-28 Key fingerprint = E44E B88C E21B 858E 3639 7AA4 FFC7 8544 EF22 341C uid Andrei Mircea POPESCU sub 4096R/5D7DFF29 2013-07-28 > I wro

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 9/06/2014 1:56 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 09 iun 14, 01:43:28, Andrew McGlashan wrote: >> >> And the fingerprint? > > $ gpg --fingerprint EF22341C > pub 4096R/EF22341C 2013-07-28 > Key fingerprint = E44E B88C E21B 858E 3639 7AA4 FFC7 8544 EF22 341C > uid Andrei

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 09 iun 14, 02:07:46, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 9/06/2014 1:56 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > https://wiki.debian.org/Keysigning/Offers#AU > > Okay, not many people listed; I thought there would be many more. I > don't know any of them personally. That's not necessary, the point of

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 02:07:46 +1000 Andrew McGlashan wrote: Hello Andrew, >Okay, not many people listed; I thought there would be many more. I >don't know any of them personally. You don't have to. So long as there's one close enough to you for it to be convenient to arrange a meeting those pe

Re: Abusive, Insulting and Off Topic e-mails do not belong on debian-user or any other Debian Mailing list.

2014-06-08 Thread Ralph Katz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/07/2014 08:58 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: > > In the past few days, there have been many insulting, abusive and > off topic messages sent to this mailing list. > > This is not acceptable, and conflicts with both our code of > conduct[1], and the m

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread John Bleichert
On 06/08/2014 11:16 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 07 iun 14, 22:23:12, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I agree signing would help - but you're right, I don't know who many people's public keys are - either here or anywhere else. Joining Debian's Web of Trust would be a very good starting point, esp

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Sun, 8 Jun 2014 17:53:28 +0200 Bzzz napísal: > On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 01:43:28 +1000 > Andrew McGlashan wrote: > > > > If one is living in the USA or western Europe getting one's key > > > signed shouldn't be too difficult. > > > > How about Australia? > > Not allowed: if you sign you

Re: Abusive, Insulting and Off Topic e-mails do not belong on debian-user or any other Debian Mailing list.

2014-06-08 Thread Mike McGinn
On Sunday, June 08, 2014 10:32:20 Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 8/06/2014 10:58 AM, Don Armstrong wrote: > > In the past few days, there have been many insulting, abusive and off > > topic messages sent to this mailing list. > > For the public record, I need to make it clear that posts made by an

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Lucius Rizzo
* Andrei POPESCU [2014-06-08 18:16]: > On Sb, 07 iun 14, 22:23:12, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > > > I agree signing would help - but you're right, I don't know who many > > people's public keys are - either here or anywhere else. > > Joining Debian's Web of Trust would be a very good starting point,

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 2:22 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 09 iun 14, 02:07:46, Andrew McGlashan wrote: >> On 9/06/2014 1:56 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> > >> > https://wiki.debian.org/Keysigning/Offers#AU >> >> Okay, not many people listed; I thought there would be many more. I >> don't know

Re: Auto-emptying of trash.

2014-06-08 Thread Paul Johnson
On Jun 8, 2014 3:11 AM, "Sharon Kimble" wrote: > > Revisiting a question that I asked in March last year about how to > auto-empty a trash bin. > > This has worked very well until today, when on one of my drives it > also deleted the trash bin as well, so my follow-on script to give > me the size

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Sat, Jun 07, 2014 at 04:05:10PM -0700, lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: > > On Friday 06 June 2014 23:13:10 lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: > >> And, Who are you Ralf? a Jew? > >> > >> This list is not moderated! > > > > And is sadly starting to become an unfriendly and unwelcoming place. Is > > racism really

[OFF-TOPIC :)] Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Diogene Laerce
On 06/08/2014 08:54 PM, Bob Holtzman wrote: > On Sat, Jun 07, 2014 at 04:05:10PM -0700, lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: >>> On Friday 06 June 2014 23:13:10 lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: And, Who are you Ralf? a Jew? This list is not moderated! >>> >>> And is sadly starting to become an unfrien

Re: Preseeded setting on openssh-server ignored

2014-06-08 Thread Brian
On Sat 07 Jun 2014 at 23:08:47 +0530, Murukesh Mohanan wrote: > I'm trying to use preseeding to automate installation, and > openssh-server is ignoring a selection > openssh-server openssh-server/permit-root-login bool true > The sshd_config always contains > PermitRootLogin without-pass

Re: Jessie PowerPC installer doesn't see USB keyboard on PowerPC Mac machines

2014-06-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2014-06-08 at 10:46 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote: > On Sun, Jun 08, 2014 at 12:14:56AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Sat, 2014-06-07 at 15:04 -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: > > > Hmmm... > > > > > > I originally reported this back in November. > > > > > > After a while, it went away for me.

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2014-06-08 at 17:53 +0200, Bzzz wrote: > On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 01:43:28 +1000 > Andrew McGlashan wrote: > > > > If one is living in the USA or western Europe getting one's key > > > signed shouldn't be too difficult. > > > > How about Australia? > > Not allowed: if you sign your e-mails,

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 6/8/2014 1:20 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 2:22 AM, Andrei POPESCU > wrote: >> On Lu, 09 iun 14, 02:07:46, Andrew McGlashan wrote: >>> On 9/06/2014 1:56 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: https://wiki.debian.org/Keysigning/Offers#AU >>> >>> Okay, not many people listed;

Re: OT: install-grub in Solaris x86 (was: GRUB2)

2014-06-08 Thread Reco
On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 11:35:29 +0200 emmanuel segura wrote: > http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19253-01/817-5093/disksxadd-45774/index.html Sigh. Why do you bother yourself with such ancient thing? Real Solaris 11 doesn't use Grub1 anymore: # uname -a SunOS xxx 5.11 11.1 i86pc i386 i86pc # which ins

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 6:10 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> But hopefully it won't ever come to the point of mattering. It really >> is silly when people start trying to spoof other people's emails. >> > > Chris, > > It's more than silly. In many countries (including the United States), > it can be c

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 6/8/2014 4:18 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 6:10 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> But hopefully it won't ever come to the point of mattering. It really >>> is silly when people start trying to spoof other people's emails. >>> >> >> Chris, >> >> It's more than silly. In many co

Re: OT: install-grub in Solaris x86 (was: GRUB2)

2014-06-08 Thread emmanuel segura
that was typo, if you read the link you can see the command is /sbin/installgrub and i don't think solaris x86 doesn't uses grub1. 2014-06-08 22:13 GMT+02:00 Reco : > On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 11:35:29 +0200 > emmanuel segura wrote: > >> http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19253-01/817-5093/disksxadd-45774/index

Re: [OFF-TOPIC :)] Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Terence
I think this whole thing has gone too far. The response to this trolling cretin has led to a fragmentation wholly unlike the tenor of our normal Debian lists, and, I regret to see, list members whom I hold in general high regard being attacked after their initial attempts to help or intervene. I d

Re: Preseeded setting on openssh-server ignored

2014-06-08 Thread Brian
On Sun 08 Jun 2014 at 20:55:19 +0100, Brian wrote: > This is what you get with a new install of 1:6.6p1-1. It is the > default. If is not to your liking you have to alter it afterwards. Or deal with it with late_command in your preseed file. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@list

Re: detecting printer connected to the network

2014-06-08 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 5:28 AM, David wrote: > > Did you do any internet search before asking here? I searched "Canon Pixma > MX870 linux" and found these links: > > http://support-sg.canon-asia.com/contents/SG/EN/0100272302.html > https://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/4447 >

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread davidson
On Mon, 9 Jun 2014, Chris Angelico wrote: ...but I would consider it pretty silly if we had to concern ourselves with the possibility that some other debian-user contributor would show up on our doorsteps with an axe. Hm. We should not have to be considering such ridiculous possibilities.

Testing.Gnu Clisp Mcclim: Working?

2014-06-08 Thread Sebastian Canagaratna
I am using Debian Testing .I can't seem to get Mcclim to work with Gnu Clisp.Has anybody got Mcclim to work with gnu Clisp? Sebastian

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 08 iun 14, 22:05:03, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > I will not sign my emails to mailing lists, however, you're mistaken, > several people subscribed to Debian user sign there mails. Those people > are not blacklisted, perhaps there are kangaroos or penguins in their > kitchen, I don't know, anywa

Re: Which 'package' to choose for updating google chrome ?

2014-06-08 Thread Zhiqi Li
On 06/08/2014 09:40 PM, Trudi wrote: Hi I am using an ASUS Transformer Book. Not only are there no useful manuals but also no help from Asus either online OR by telephone, issues go unsolved. It's annoying since they are not cheap. My issue is that the android/tablet part of the Asus Transformer

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 09:40:02 +0200 David Guyot wrote: > I would suggest you to reinstall sysvinit, Just to follow up on your suggestion of yesterday after a reboot today, yes the 'infected' warning in chkrootkit still appears after the sysvinit re-install. Since however as stated last night, rk

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 00:22 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 08 iun 14, 22:05:03, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > I will not sign my emails to mailing lists, however, you're mistaken, > > several people subscribed to Debian user sign there mails. Those people > > are not blacklisted, perhaps ther

Re: [OFF-TOPIC technically, but relevant to this group]

2014-06-08 Thread Joe
On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 21:45:40 +0100 Terence wrote: > I think this whole thing has gone too far. The response to this > trolling cretin has led to a fragmentation wholly unlike the tenor of > our normal Debian lists, > and, I regret to see, list members whom I hold in general high regard > being att

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Joe
On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 17:11:53 -0400 Charles Kroeger wrote: > On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 09:40:02 +0200 > David Guyot wrote: > > > I would suggest you to reinstall sysvinit, > > Just to follow up on your suggestion of yesterday after a reboot > today, yes the 'infected' warning in chkrootkit still appea

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 08 iun 14, 23:37:40, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 00:22 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > Could you please elaborate on this? > > What should I explain? That signing usually is unwanted? It's usually > unwanted, because there is absolutely no reason to sign mails to a > m

Re: [OFF-TOPIC technically, but relevant to this group]

2014-06-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 08 June 2014 22:48:43 Joe wrote: > and some modern > email programs can display subjects, Surely _all_ modern email programs can display subjects? (Though programs exist which cannot thread.) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "

Re: [OFF-TOPIC technically, but relevant to this group]

2014-06-08 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 6/8/2014 5:48 PM, Joe wrote: > On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 21:45:40 +0100 > Terence wrote: > >> I think this whole thing has gone too far. The response to this >> trolling cretin has led to a fragmentation wholly unlike the tenor of >> our normal Debian lists, >> and, I regret to see, list members whom

Re: detecting printer connected to the network

2014-06-08 Thread Brian
On Sun 08 Jun 2014 at 17:15:14 -0400, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: > I thought others might benefit from my experience and provided step by step > instructions at > http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/2014/06/setting-up-canon-pixma-mx870-printer-on.html A very nice write-up. I hope you do not mind

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-08 Thread Joe
On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 13:33:28 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 08 June 2014 12:55:26 Slavko wrote: > > Migration from apt-get/aptitude to Synaptic must be safe. The > > problem in opposite direction, i.e. from Synaptic to > > apt-get/aptitude, where Synaptic lack some functionality about the > >

Re: [OFF-TOPIC technically, but relevant to this group]

2014-06-08 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > And believe it or not, there still are people out there who > don't know how to use a search engine effectively. There are degrees of effectiveness. Even among members of my own nuclear family (who are all reasonably adept with computers), I

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Brian
On Sun 08 Jun 2014 at 17:11:53 -0400, Charles Kroeger wrote: > On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 09:40:02 +0200 > David Guyot wrote: > > > I would suggest you to reinstall sysvinit, > > Just to follow up on your suggestion of yesterday after a reboot today, yes > the > 'infected' warning in chkrootkit still

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 06/08/2014 06:20 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 08 iun 14, 23:37:40, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >> On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 00:22 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >>> >>> Could you please elaborate on this? >> >> What should I explain? That signing us

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 06/08/2014 05:11 PM, Charles Kroeger wrote: > next question: how does one see a 'hidden file' if one receives a > warning in rkhunter about having two on your system? I can always > delete /etc/.java and /etc/.fstab but what then? (why the 'dot'

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 08 June 2014 22:11:53 Charles Kroeger wrote: > next question: how does one see a 'hidden file' if one receives a warning > in rkhunter about having two on your system? I can always delete /etc/.java > and /etc/.fstab but what then? (why the 'dot' in front of the .java and > .fstab) > > Wa

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Filip
Joe writes: >> next question: how does one see a 'hidden file' if one receives a >> warning in rkhunter about having two on your system? I can always >> delete /etc/.java and /etc/.fstab but what then? (why the 'dot' in >> front of the .java and .fstab) >> >> Warning: Hidden directory found: '/e

hardware errors

2014-06-08 Thread Richard Hector
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I'm seeing this kind of thing in kern.log: http://paste.debian.net/104039/ I've never seen these messages before IIRC, so I'm not entirely sure if I'm interpreting them correctly. It looks like some messages are telling me about RAM ECC err

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-08 Thread Jochen Spieker
Slavko: > > Sure, here is today example (it comes from my Raspbian with recompiled > packages from sid in my own repo): > > LANG=C apt-get upgrade > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > The following packages have been kept back: >

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 01:08 +0200, Filip wrote: > $ ls -lA I recommend to add the h option. $ ls -hAl t or d sometimes are useful too, but by default I tend to use -hAl. Mnemonic, HAL, resp. HAL 9000 is the computer in the movie "2001: A Space Odyssey". -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-use

Re: hardware errors

2014-06-08 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 11:22:25 +1200 Richard Hector wrote: > I assume the RAM needs replacing - is it possible to figure out > which DIMM(s)? Install memtest86+ and boot on it, then leave at least 3 complete cycles to run. -- Pierre : pfff, look at the window, kids spending their life b

Re: hardware errors

2014-06-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 01:35 +0200, B wrote: > On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 11:22:25 +1200 > Richard Hector wrote: > > > I assume the RAM needs replacing - is it possible to figure out > > which DIMM(s)? > > Install memtest86+ and boot on it, then leave at least > 3 complete cycles to run. I would us

Re: Debian Testing Jess: Server Randomly Reboots - No Logs / Indication - Rsyslog Issue?

2014-06-08 Thread Bob Proulx
Adam Brenner wrote: > The issue I am facing is that at random, unrepeatable times, the server > locks up and requires a reboot. However, none of the system generated > logs in /var/logs/ report any kernel panic or memory dump. I have ran a > number of grep commands and even manually spent time trac

Re: Kernel 3.14.x bug? rm, mv root-owned files

2014-06-08 Thread Bob Proulx
The Wanderer wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > jimmy wrote: > > >>// --- remove (delete) a file owned by root, should not be > >> allowed, but is allowed. Here, it says the file is 'read-only' > >> so it warns about it, but of course "rm -f " would work, too: > > > > Why do you think it should

Re: Abusive, Insulting and Off Topic e-mails do not belong on debian-user or any other Debian Mailing list.

2014-06-08 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 6/9/14, Mike McGinn wrote: > On Sunday, June 08, 2014 10:32:20 Andrew McGlashan wrote: >> On 8/06/2014 10:58 AM, Don Armstrong wrote: >> > In the past few days, there have been many insulting, abusive and off >> > topic messages sent to this mailing list. Agreed. >> For the public record, I n

ntp and multiple OSes

2014-06-08 Thread Rusi Mody
I have a couple of debians (32 and 64 bit) and an ubuntu on different partitions. Rebooting one and then another causes errors of "superblock time in future" My guess is that in some cases the ntp stores the date in UTC in some in local. All have ntp+ntpdate installed with no special configs A

kalarm warning message

2014-06-08 Thread tom arnall
when i start kalarm, i get the message: QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Applcation may misbehave. i also frequently get a very naughty kalarm. it hogs memory and processor big time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org wit

MPD on localhost won't work if there's no Wifi!?

2014-06-08 Thread Teresa e Junior
Hello to all! I've had this problem with previous versions of MPD, and now I'm using 0.18.7, but the problem persists. This is an odd situation: MPD is configured to run on 127.0.0.1, but if the Wifi is disconnected in NetworkManager, it starts spitting error messages and refuses to play: $

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-08 Thread Dalios
On 06/08/2014 06:10 PM, The Wanderer wrote: Likewise FWIW, I invariably use apt-get, because aptitude routinely recommends dependency-resolution "solutions" which involve not doing anything like what I requested - and indeed often involve removing the very package I requested to be installed - wh

Re: OT: install-grub in Solaris x86 (was: GRUB2)

2014-06-08 Thread Reco
On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 22:41:53 +0200 emmanuel segura wrote: > that was typo, if you read the link you can see the command is > /sbin/installgrub and i don't think solaris x86 doesn't uses grub1. Aha. So it's now installgrub, not install-grub. Ok. Man page is crystal clear on that: The instal

Re: unable to mount removable media with xfce4 version 4.10.1

2014-06-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 08:31:34PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > In this case "systemd" likely is for udev, wich usually also is used > without systemd, but it's merged by upstream. Just a guess NO it isn't merged!!! Please stop spreading FUD! -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will hav

Re: MPD on localhost won't work if there's no Wifi!?

2014-06-08 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 01:23:43 -0400 Teresa e Junior wrote: > I have asked for help at http://forum.musicpd.org/, but they said > something is not right in my network, and I believe that could be > actually the case. Your network configuration may be the cause of this. Can you please run m

Re: unable to mount removable media with xfce4 version 4.10.1

2014-06-08 Thread Reco
On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 17:48:37 +1200 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 08:31:34PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > In this case "systemd" likely is for udev, wich usually also is used > > without systemd, but it's merged by upstream. Just a guess > > NO it isn't merged!!! Please s

Re: ntp and multiple OSes

2014-06-08 Thread Nemeth Gyorgy
2014-06-09 06:02 keltezéssel, Rusi Mody írta: > I have a couple of debians (32 and 64 bit) and an ubuntu on different > partitions. > > Rebooting one and then another causes errors of > "superblock time in future" > > My guess is that in some cases the ntp stores the date in UTC in some in > lo

Re: MPD on localhost won't work if there's no Wifi!?

2014-06-08 Thread Teresa e Junior
On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 09:53:31 +0400, Reco wrote: Your network configuration may be the cause of this. Can you please run mpc like this, and show the result: strace -e trace=network mpc $ strace -e trace=network mpc socket(PF_FILE, SOCK_STREAM|SOCK_CLOEXEC|SOCK_NONBLOCK, 0) = 3 connect(3, {sa_fam

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