Quoting taii...@gmx.com (taii...@gmx.com):
> I apologize - I should have done that in the first place instead of
> resorting to name calling.
I thank you.
(In fairness, Mr. Selli then return-volleyed the same thing, which was
not 'cricket' either but rather amusing in context.)
Thank you as wel
On 09/07/2017 02:18 PM, Rick Moen wrote:
Quoting taii...@gmx.com (taii...@gmx.com):
I also find a bit questionable your going around attempting to tarnish
the reputation of someone with a real name, while concealing your own.
Criticism isn't allowed?
This is of course nothing like what I sai
On 09/07/2017 11:12 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote:
Quote: "Please take this discussion somewhere else, it has NOTHING to do with
Devuan"
This discussion has taught me that Intel CPUs from 2008 onwards also
come with GRATIS but QUESTIONABLE functionalities, that many including
myself, frown upon.
If
Quoting zap (calmst...@posteo.de):
> The Sad thing is, I sometimes if it is nonsensical, or stupid, I find it
> highly amusing.
Isn't it just? One of the mutt MUA's (many) unsung advantages is you
can often tell, merely by glancing at the threading pattern, that a
thread has gone totally off th
> One rule of thumb I try to follow, to reduce noise, is state a specific
> point of contention twice at most, then exit, even if an Inevitable One
> insists on rearguing said topic and misrepresenting what you said
> (a common ploy to troll another party into continuing) -- evading the
> notoriou
Quoting eric (eri...@cox.net):
> That may remove some of the (off-topic?) traffic on this list even
> though I do not know what is off-topic anymore.
One rule of thumb I try to follow, to reduce noise, is state a specific
point of contention twice at most, then exit, even if an Inevitable One
ins
On 09/07/2017 08:40 AM, zap wrote:
On 09/07/2017 08:11 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
On Thursday 07 September 2017 at 13:59:01, Narcis Garcia wrote:
This thread has now 86 posts, and I still don't see a solid contribution
to Devuan project.
This makes very heavy to be subscribed in a mailing list
> On Sep 7, 2017, at 1:54 PM, KatolaZ wrote:
>
> These things will clear out when amprolla3 comes up. We are almost
> there. The current amprolla is not merging sone suites on ascii,
> including ascii-updates and ascii-proposed-updates.
I’m looking forward to a big update when it finally does.
Quoting taii...@gmx.com (taii...@gmx.com):
> >I also find a bit questionable your going around attempting to tarnish
> >the reputation of someone with a real name, while concealing your own.
> Criticism isn't allowed?
This is of course nothing like what I said.
> I dislike when people deal with
On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 10:22:57AM -0400, fsmithred wrote:
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>
> I think there's nothing in ascii-security and ascii-updates. The Packages
> files for both are empty. (I only checked amd64.)
>
> In contrast to that jessie-security, jessie-updates and
> jessie-proposed-updates all have packa
On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 05:25:47PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
wrote:
> IMHO, even this discussion isn't strictly related to devuan
That's why we're talking on dng not on devuan-dev.
The latter is for development of Devuan specifically.
The former came with the slogan "campfire for s
On 2017-09-07 10:31, Svante Signell wrote:
On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 08:47 -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
On 2017-09-07 08:01, Svante Signell wrote:
>
> Yes, please! Even if some messages are interesting, a majority of them
> are off-topic for Devuan. This list should concern user feedback, etc. Fo
On 2017-09-07 10:40, zap wrote:
On 09/07/2017 08:11 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
On Thursday 07 September 2017 at 13:59:01, Narcis Garcia wrote:
This thread has now 86 posts, and I still don't see a solid
contribution
to Devuan project.
This makes very heavy to be subscribed in a mailing list for
On Thursday 07 September 2017 at 17:34:48, Rowland Penny wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 01:23:29 +1000 Erik Christiansen wrote:
> >
> > Losing your temper in an infantile manner is not. And it won't.
>
> No I didn't lose my temper, I just shouted because you lot must be deaf.
Just because someone
On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 10:22 -0400, fsmithred wrote:
> On 09/07/2017 08:55 AM, Svante Signell wrote:
> >
>
> I think there's nothing in ascii-security and ascii-updates. The Packages
> files for both are empty. (I only checked amd64.)
>
> In contrast to that jessie-security, jessie-updates and
>
On 09/07/2017 08:11 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Thursday 07 September 2017 at 13:59:01, Narcis Garcia wrote:
>
>> This thread has now 86 posts, and I still don't see a solid contribution
>> to Devuan project.
>> This makes very heavy to be subscribed in a mailing list for people like
>> me, that
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 01:23:29 +1000
Erik Christiansen wrote:
> On 07.09.17 15:42, Rowland Penny wrote:
> > On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 16:32:42 +0200
> > Adam Borowski wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 11:51:46PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote:
> >
> > I have tried asking nicely
>
> That was wise
On 07.09.2017 16:12, Erik Christiansen wrote:
If the firewall is on a FPGA, then we know what every gate is doing, as
we have the VHDL source for it.
An purely FPGA-based firewall (w/o an cpu in it), specifically
synthesized for a given ruleset seems an very interesting approach.
Anyone here
On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 08:47 -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> On 2017-09-07 08:01, Svante Signell wrote:
> >
> > Yes, please! Even if some messages are interesting, a majority of them
> > are off-topic for Devuan. This list should concern user feedback, etc. For
> > pure development there is alrea
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 17:12:25 +0200
Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Quote: "Please take this discussion somewhere else, it has NOTHING to
> do with Devuan"
>
> This discussion has taught me that Intel CPUs from 2008 onwards also
> come with GRATIS but QUESTIONABLE functionalities, that many including
> my
On 07.09.2017 16:42, Rowland Penny wrote:
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 16:32:42 +0200
Adam Borowski wrote:
On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 11:51:46PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote:
I have tried asking nicely
WILL YOU SHUTUP!!!
hey, please calm down.
IMHO, even this discussion isn't strictly related to de
On 07.09.17 15:42, Rowland Penny wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 16:32:42 +0200
> Adam Borowski wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 11:51:46PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote:
>
> I have tried asking nicely
That was wise. It might have worked.
> WILL YOU SHUTUP!!!
Losing your temper in an infanti
Quote: "Please take this discussion somewhere else, it has NOTHING to do with
Devuan"
This discussion has taught me that Intel CPUs from 2008 onwards also
come with GRATIS but QUESTIONABLE functionalities, that many including
myself, frown upon.
If there are non-risky hacks that readers can use t
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 16:32:42 +0200
Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 11:51:46PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote:
I have tried asking nicely
WILL YOU SHUTUP!!!
I don't care about your drivel, it has nothing directly to do with
Devuan
Rowland
On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 11:51:46PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote:
> On 07.09.17 13:32, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 09:17:20PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote:
> > > If our hosts cannot be trusted not to phone home to folk wearing dark
> > > glasses, then would it not suffice to
On 09/07/2017 08:55 AM, Svante Signell wrote:
> On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 21:07 +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
>> Hi John,
>>
>> John Franklin writes:
>>
>>> I’ve seen several security alerts from Debian, but no matching
>>> updates in Devuan. For example, the “file" package has
>>> CVE-2017-1000249, r
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 00:12:02 +1000
Erik Christiansen wrote:
> On 07.09.17 14:05, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> > ROMB is the ROM Bypass and that too is builtin the PCH chip:
>
> Erik
Excuse me, but can you lot not take a hint ???
Please take this discussion somewhere else, it has NOTHING to do wi
On 2017-09-07 07:22, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
Hi Ozi,
Ozi Traveller writes:
Just wondering whether anyone has managed to get docker installed on
Devuan?
If so, how? And are you getting docker updates as well?
Have a look at my blog post[1] on this topic ;-)
[1]:
https://paddy-hack.gitlab.
On 07.09.17 14:05, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> ROMB is the ROM Bypass and that too is builtin the PCH chip:
>
> Loading starts with the ROM program, which is contained in the
> built-in PCH read-only memory. Unfortunately, no way to read or
> rewrite this memory is known to the g
On 07.09.17 13:32, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 09:17:20PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote:
> > If our hosts cannot be trusted not to phone home to folk wearing dark
> > glasses, then would it not suffice to employ a simple embedded host with
> > a small die, such as an ARM, e.g. B
On 2017-09-07 08:01, Svante Signell wrote:
On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 14:11 +0200, Antony Stone wrote:
On Thursday 07 September 2017 at 13:59:01, Narcis Garcia wrote:
> This thread has now 86 posts, and I still don't see a solid contribution
> to Devuan project.
> This makes very heavy to be subscri
On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 14:11 +0200, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Thursday 07 September 2017 at 13:59:01, Narcis Garcia wrote:
>
> > This thread has now 86 posts, and I still don't see a solid contribution
> > to Devuan project.
> > This makes very heavy to be subscribed in a mailing list for people lik
On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 21:07 +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> John Franklin writes:
>
> > I’ve seen several security alerts from Debian, but no matching
> > updates in Devuan. For example, the “file" package has
> > CVE-2017-1000249, released yesterday.
> >
> > > For the stable distr
Hi Ozi,
Ozi Traveller writes:
> Just wondering whether anyone has managed to get docker installed on Devuan?
>
> If so, how? And are you getting docker updates as well?
Have a look at my blog post[1] on this topic ;-)
[1]: https://paddy-hack.gitlab.io/posts/sandwiching-docker-with-devuan/
I b
Hi John,
John Franklin writes:
> I’ve seen several security alerts from Debian, but no matching
> updates in Devuan. For example, the “file" package has
> CVE-2017-1000249, released yesterday.
>
>> For the stable distribution (stretch), this problem has been fixed in
>> version 1:5.30-1+deb9u1.
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 13:59:01 +0200
Narcis Garcia wrote:
> This thread has now 86 posts, and I still don't see a solid
> contribution to Devuan project.
> This makes very heavy to be subscribed in a mailing list for people
> like me, that are looking a good alternative to Debian/Systemd, not
> only
On Thursday 07 September 2017 at 13:59:01, Narcis Garcia wrote:
> This thread has now 86 posts, and I still don't see a solid contribution
> to Devuan project.
> This makes very heavy to be subscribed in a mailing list for people like
> me, that are looking a good alternative to Debian/Systemd, no
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 at 13:41:25 +0200
Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 at 21:17:20 +1000
> Erik Christiansen wrote:
>
> > The notion of an extra embedded CPU or two on big Intel chips is not
> > difficult to credit, but where is the postulated entire minix OS loaded
> > from?
>
>
This thread has now 86 posts, and I still don't see a solid contribution
to Devuan project.
This makes very heavy to be subscribed in a mailing list for people like
me, that are looking a good alternative to Debian/Systemd, not only in
software but also in community.
El 07/09/17 a les 13:43, Didi
Le 07/09/2017 à 10:48, taii...@gmx.com a écrit :
On 09/07/2017 04:30 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote:
On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 at 17:12:27 -0400
zap wrote:
Agreed! Talos is at least *LIBRE!*
No, it ain't:
https://blog.rapid7.com/2013/07/02/a-penetration-testers-guide-to-ipmi/
"BMCs and the IPM
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 at 21:17:20 +1000
Erik Christiansen wrote:
> The notion of an extra embedded CPU or two on big Intel chips is not
> difficult to credit, but where is the postulated entire minix OS loaded
> from?
It's in the report by the Positive Technologies team:
http://blog.ptsecurity.co
On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 09:17:20PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote:
> If our hosts cannot be trusted not to phone home to folk wearing dark
> glasses, then would it not suffice to employ a simple embedded host with
> a small die, such as an ARM, e.g. Beaglebone Black, as a firewall?
It's not hard t
The notion of an extra embedded CPU or two on big Intel chips is not
difficult to credit, but where is the postulated entire minix OS loaded
from?
If our hosts cannot be trusted not to phone home to folk wearing dark
glasses, then would it not suffice to employ a simple embedded host with
a small
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 at 06:29:59 -0400
"taii...@gmx.com" wrote:
> On 09/07/2017 05:01 AM, Rick Moen wrote:
>
>> Quoting taii...@gmx.com (taii...@gmx.com):
>>
>> [speaking to Alessandro Selli]
>>
>>> You are constantly defending them and snubbing your nose at superior
>>> products so it is obvious y
On 09/07/2017 05:01 AM, Rick Moen wrote:
Quoting taii...@gmx.com (taii...@gmx.com):
[speaking to Alessandro Selli]
You are constantly defending them and snubbing your nose at superior
products so it is obvious you work for purism.
Can I ask for a bit more civility, please? Mr. Selli is a fa
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 at 04:48:43 -0400
"taii...@gmx.com" wrote:
> On 09/07/2017 04:30 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 at 17:12:27 -0400
>> zap wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed! Talos is at least *LIBRE!*
>>No, it ain't:
>> https://blog.rapid7.com/2013/07/02/a-penetration-testers-guide-
Quoting taii...@gmx.com (taii...@gmx.com):
[speaking to Alessandro Selli]
> You are constantly defending them and snubbing your nose at superior
> products so it is obvious you work for purism.
Can I ask for a bit more civility, please? Mr. Selli is a fairly
passionate free software person, mor
On 09/07/2017 04:30 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote:
On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 at 17:12:27 -0400
zap wrote:
Agreed! Talos is at least *LIBRE!*
No, it ain't:
https://blog.rapid7.com/2013/07/02/a-penetration-testers-guide-to-ipmi/
"BMCs and the IPMI Protocol
Baseboard Management Contr
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 at 10:30:39 +0200
Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 at 17:12:27 -0400
> zap wrote:
>
> > Agreed! Talos is at least *LIBRE!*
>
> No, it ain't:
> https://blog.rapid7.com/2013/07/02/a-penetration-testers-guide-to-ipmi/
>
> "BMCs and the IPMI Protocol
>
>
On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 at 17:12:27 -0400
zap wrote:
> Agreed! Talos is at least *LIBRE!*
No, it ain't:
https://blog.rapid7.com/2013/07/02/a-penetration-testers-guide-to-ipmi/
"BMCs and the IPMI Protocol
Baseboard Management Controllers (BMCs) are a type of embedded
comput
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