ake
> to Debian. Good advice!
I did the same, then to Devuan, but now am considering PCLinuxOS; I do miss all
the Drake* tools ;-3)
Cheers,
Ron.
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which may not some day be applied to phenomena
On Sun, 2 Sep 2018 03:59:47 +0200
Alessandro Selli wrote:
> >> Thou shalt be flogged for uttering this blasphemy!
> > De gustibus non est disputanum.
> Thou shalt have no other theme than DarkPurpy!
And me thinking Linux was all about user's freedom of ch
Or one can use Devuan. It runs bash in xterms. ;->
Sadly, Debian and Devuan have nothing that compares with the Drak* tools.
My lasting regret when I switched from Mageia to Debian years ago (did not know
about PCLinuxOS then)...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Antisémite : ce mot me fait
s inherited from Mandrake / Mandriva / Mageia.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
The magic of our first love
is our ignorance that it can ever end.
-- Benjamin Disraeli
On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 23:07:46 +0200
Antony Stone wrote:
> 1. If you have alsamixer installed, see if anything is muted.
Or in pavucontrol
Cheers,
Ron.
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is our ignorance that it can ever
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 23:06:59 -0700
Rick Moen wrote:
> 'The failure mode of clever is "asshole."'
This is a family list; so:
'The failure mode of clever is "orifice".'
Cheers,
Ron.
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The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
c.
Is the normal ?
How can I format it so it is no longer "seen" as /dev/sdi ?
Cheers,
Ron.
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The business of the law was not the discovery of the truth,
but the imposition of the power of the state upon its citizens.
--
ty, and note carefully what cipher gets negotiated and
> any problems observed. https://www.madboa.com/geek/openssl/ has a basic
> guide.
Thank you for the advice.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
When you come to a fork in the road, take it.
the complete blockage ?
And is there a way around it ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
True friends stab you in the front.
-- Oscar Wilde
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 09:34:35 -0400
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> So the only inequivocally remaining received gospel is that Emacs is the
> Only True and Holy Editor.
Heretic ! True Believers worship at the Shrine of VI...
Cheers,
Ron.
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On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 13:19:40 +0200
Antony Stone wrote:
> Thank $deity for that.
Whoever He or She is, should not we accord Him or Her the civility of an
upper-wase variable name as $DEITY ? ;-3)
Cheers,
Ron.
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A good question is never answered.
gested would help.
A warning message at boot time, that the computer is 64-capable and the user
might want to change his choice of iso ?
Cheers,
Ron.
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Il faut se garder de donner un nom aux choses:
Tant qu'elles n'en ont pas, elles n'existent pas
On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 22:16:10 +0200
"J. Fahrner" wrote:
> Bunsenlab has also a GUI program for adjusting fonts for Gtk.
Where can one find it ?
Cheers,
Ron.
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perche' si vendiciano del
On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 12:45:36 -0500
goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> > Just have to keep a post-it on the monitor, to remind you which HD has
> > what ;-3)
> I actually keep a small sticky label on the drive itself. ;)
Might not be very useful at boot time ;-3)
t have to keep a post-it on the monitor, to remind you which HD has what ;-3)
Cheers,
Ron.
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il lui donna une compagne pour lui faire mieux sentir sa solitude.
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 10:09:02 +
KatolaZ wrote:
> Just to say: no problems over here with either zathura, xpdf, or mupdf
> on ASCII. But my pdf files are not that fancy, TBH :)
Here under Jessie, mupdf displays correctly, but xpdf does not.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
La révo
F has same result as its display.
I have noticed the same behaviour in recent days, but while the .pdf files do
not display properly in evince or pdfshuffler, they do in gv.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who
make empty prophecies. The
o.
And the Debian logo did not register, as I see it under Devuan every time I log
in...
Cheers,
Ron.
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Here is to the Council of Trent
who put fasting on the meat, and not on the drink.
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wireless network, with the indication
"device not ready (firmware missing)".
And of course, I cannot get the firmware without a network connection.
An oversight ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Toddlers are the stormtroopers
of the Lord
ot rid of with the g
option in gdisk (expert mode).
Is there a way to banish gpt from my box, to avoid future annoyance ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Eschew Eschaton Immanentization.
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On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 13:17:43 -0300
"Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" wrote:
> Since upgrading from Debian Wheezy to Devuan Jessie, I have been having
> problems with USB drives, unable to mount them unless as root, and seeing
> strange things in Pcmanfm, like when connecting a drive th
with
gparted, I get two entries in the places list of Pcmanfm, one as sdi which,
when clicked on, shows me the former content of the drive, and when I choose
sdi1 shows me the new content.
Lates madness is as follows:
root@ron:/home/ron # df
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
SCII beta images as soon as
> possible is to back off for a few hours, let the (many) mirrors use
> the availale bandwidth to sync as fast as they can, and then download
> the images from one of the mirrors listed at http://www.devuan.org
Why not offer a BittTrrent downlo
Would it be possible to configure the system so that after a set time of
inactivity, it logs-out the user instead of activating a screen saver ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Nobody ever went broke underestimating
the intelligence of the American public
when ASCII will be declared stable ?
Is it a question of weeks ? months ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
To our sweethearts and wives:
May they never meet.
-- 19th century toast
ed by Meltdown."
> and AMD wrote:
> https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/speculative-execution
> "Zero AMD vulnerability due to AMD architecture differences."
ISTR that AMDs are not affected by Meltdown, but affected by Spectre
Cheers,
Ron.
--
On Mon, 1 Jan 2018 13:50:51 +0100
aitor_czr wrote:
> Without being too pedantic [*], *devuanita* is the right term. A
> debianita is to debian, like a devuanita to devuan.
With due respect, your Worship, "Devuanita" would be a term of endearment for a
young (female) Devuana...
On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 19:50:56 +0100
Antony Stone wrote:
> > Oh, come on. Have some sense of humour! Didn't you see the sarcasm in
> > my comment?
>
> Email is a notoriously bad medium for conveying tone of voice.
so next time use a tag.
Cheers,
Ron.
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On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 04:43:30 -0300
"Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" wrote:
> Thank you; sadly this is not offered in Devuan Jessie ;-3(
Please ignore: Synaptic could not find it, but apt-get did.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
The measure of a man's real character is
On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 08:04:34 +0100
"J. Fahrner" wrote:
> > Thanks, I should have been more precise: one with a GUI.
>
> My favourite GUI text editor is Geany.
Thank you; sadly this is not offered in Devuan Jessie ;-3(
Cheers,
Ron.
--
The m
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 22:16:18 +
ael wrote:
> > Is there in Devuan a text editor that will do find/replace on a regexp ?
> Almost every non trivial editor will do that: my favorite is vim.
Thanks, I should have been more precise: one with a GUI.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
This coun
Is there in Devuan a text editor that will do find/replace on a regexp ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it.
Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government,
they can exercise their constitutional right of
jobs presently done by Anacron, but have them done by
Cron at a suitable time.
Will that happen if I disable Anacron ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Distrust all those who love you extremely
upon a very slight acquaintance
On Wed, 06 Dec 2017 14:37:04 +0100
Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Given my box runs 24/7, is there a simple way to banish Anacron, and run
> > Cron at fixed times, in the wee hours of the night for instance ?
>
> Just remove anacron by removing the anacron package.
Thank
hours of the night for instance ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Auntie Em:
Hate you.
Hate Kansas.
Taking the dog.
Dorothy
decent gui, ideas? Thanks
Have you tried gFTP ?
Cheers,
Ron.
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wait any longer. Regarding technicalities we are
> > speaking about he is fully aware.
>
> Fix your own mail reader before you complain about how others quote. It
> still doesn't generate RFC 3676-compliant quotations.
How about taking that discussion to the Hair-splitting group in Yah
d with a 0C7, 0CA or 0CC Exception
code...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
If you can tell the difference
between good advice and bad advice,
you really don't need advice.
-- http:
ewhere a config option:
"Do you want fixed NIC names or do you want them renamed whenever changed/moved
?"
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Do not trust atoms:
They make up everything !
manfm, but not write; Gparted will
create a partition table, when trying to create a partition gives me first an
error "Daemon is inhibited", then fails to create the new FAT32 ffile system.
Is there a way to move from Devuan Jessie to Debian Jessie without catching the
ty
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist
ought to have his head examined.
-- Samuel Goldwyn
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isks2.filesystem-mount;org.freedesktop.udisks2.encrypted-unlock;org.freedesktop.udisks2.eject-media;org.freedesktop.udisks2.power-off-drive
ResultAny=yes
in it, and added the user to the plugdev group.
Sadly, no change after a reboot...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
If God didn't want women t
On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 13:50:31 +
Miroslav Rovis wrote:
> Useful. But in which file do you stick it, you didn't say? ~/.bashrc ?
I stick the root ones in the relevant /root/.bashrc, and in ~/.bashrc for the
user.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
If God didn't want women to
warning when you log in as root in an X session,
and also when you log in in a tty.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
When we remember we are all mad,
the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.
-- Mark Twain
m\]\u@\h:\w \$ \[\033[0m\]' in
the various .ashrc to the colour you want/need.
Been using that for years, never had a problem.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
A real patriot is the fellow who gets a parking ticket
and rejoices that the system works.
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 16:09:21 -0500
goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> Did you log out and back in after making the change?
I did, no change.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits
of the social group without being willing to
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 16:52:56 -0400
"Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" wrote:
> > groups did not help; alas
>
> Thanks, butt adding my user to the plugdev
Read: Thanks, but adding my user to the plugdev group did not help; alas
Cheers,
Ron.
--
On
ng how to launch
> > a prog as root from the CLI..
> > Why did the configuration change ?
> > How can I restore it ?
> I think it might just be associations of your user to groups, e.g.,
> groups did not help; alas
Thanks, butt adding my user to the plugdev
C
.
OTOH, having done nothing to configure ssh, I have ssh -X working perfectly,
allowing me to run on my desktop a pcmanfm to manage files on the remote box.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
One way to make your old car run better
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 14:31:44 +0200
Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > I don't know how one can prevent you from running ssh -X
> > root@localhost . Permission to do so is set/unset
> > in /etc/ssh/sshd_config .
>
> ..ok, how?
"X11Forwarding yes" ?
Cheers,
ade ?
> So far it does work in one of my VM's when I connect a pendrive to the
> VM it is automounted. What is your exact configuration? May be i can
> find the reason by building a VM for it.
No in a VM, just a recent upgrade from Debian Wheezy LTS to Devuan, and now no
USB periphe
t; I had similar issues some time ago and switched to spacefm with udevil.
> That solved it for me.
This is a serious problem: how can I sell Devuan to users if they cannot access
their pendrives after a Debian==>Devuan upgrade ?
Cheers,
Ron.
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A na
UI, maybe, but not when launched from the CLI.
Cheers,
Ron.
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A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.
-- Edward R. Murrow
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work. For many years..
Cheers,
Ron.
--
You must realize that the computer has it in for you.
The irrefutable proof of this is that the computer
always does what you tell it to do.
-- http:/
ion change ?
How can I restore it ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
It is inexcusable for scientists to torture animals;
let them make their experiments on journalists and politicians.
-- He
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 19:43:54 +0100
Dave Turner wrote:
> Also, 'su' is just wrong, don't use it, always use sudo,
If I wanted to always use sudo I would be running *ubuntu...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
No one can make you feel inferior wi
having `xhost +` in ~/.bashrc ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Any stigma, as the old saying is,
will serve to beat a dogma.
-- Philip Guedalla
-- http://www.olgi
aged.
OK ta, I'll look for a different one.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Any stigma, as the old saying is,
will serve to beat a dogma.
-- Philip Guedalla
-- http
Under Debian, I could su to root in a console, and launch gparted from the CLI.
Now, I get:
ron@ron:~/Desktop $ su
Password:
No protocol specified
xmodmap: unable to open display ':0.0'
No protocol specified
xmodmap: unable to open display ':0.0'
No protocol specified
xmod
those prog fonts great again ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Nothing is impossible for the man
who doesn't have to do it himself.
-- A.H. Weiler
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On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 13:35:42 +0200
Adam Borowski wrote:
> And yeah, an analogy that makes systemd a disease is fitting...
I know, been refering to it for ages as a pox...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Withholding information is the essence of tyranny.
Control of the flow
is toothless ?
Cheers,
Ron.
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Sodd's Second Law:
Sooner or later, the worst possible set of circumstances is bound to occur.
-- http:/
On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:50:55 +0200
Narcis Garcia wrote:
> I prefer the best (for me) of all worlds: No Systemd, but Yes Gnome.
Which is like wanting unprotected sex, but without sexually transmitted
diseases...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Sodd's Se
On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:29:08 +0100
KatolaZ wrote:
> Have you tried to install any of them?
No, I did not; I do not either try to poke rattlesnakes with a stick
Cheers,
Ron.
--
In order to rally people, governments need enemies.
They want us to be afraid, to hate,
me.
So go ahead, install Gnome, and go in peace...
Cheers,
Ron.
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In order to rally people, governments need enemies.
They want us to be afraid, to hate, so we will rally behind them.
And if they do not have a real enemy,
they will invent on
]
libsystemd0/stable 215-17+deb8u7 amd64
live-config-systemd/stable 4.0.4-1 all
python3-systemd/stable 215-17+deb8u7 amd64
systemd-cron/stable 1.3.1+ds1-2 all
systemd-dbg/stable 215-17+deb8u7 amd64
systemd-gui/stable 1:3-2 all
systemd-shim/stable 9-1 amd64
systemd-ui/stable 3-2 amd64
Cheers,
Ron
FCE lacks ?
Cheers,
Ron.
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Democracy is also a form of worship.
It is the worship of Jackals by Jackasses.
-- H. L. Mencken
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 15:00:22 +0200
Narcis Garcia wrote:
> 3. Why not?
Because all recent versions of Gnome are infected with the systemd pox.
Cheers,
Ron.
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A society that puts equality over freedom
will not get any of those thi
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 21:07:48 +0200
info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
> > import wx.media
>
> Is part of wxPython package afaik.
Found it, the upgrade to Devuan had missed python-wxgtk-media3.0
Cheers,
Ron.
--
If you want creative workers, give them enough
Two niggles:
Is there a way to get rid of, or disable, keyring ? could not find the package
that provides it.
When I launch EasyABC, which worked under Wheezy this morning, I now get:
ron@ron:~/Desktop $ easyabc
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/share/easyabc/easy_abc.py&q
Finally taking the plunge, and upgrading following Dev1fanboy's howto on
https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/Upgrade-to-Devuan
Cheers,
Ron.
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My karma just ran over your dogma.
--
...I upgrade my Debian Wheezy LTS to Devuan Jessie ?
What happens then to those packages I need/use which are not in the Devuan
repositories ?
Will the older versions still run ? Or will the upgrade remove them ?
Or, if they have no systemd dependencies, can I install the Debian Jessie
version
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:02:37 +0200
Narcis Garcia wrote:
> Is there some published procedure to install Gnome in Devuan 8/9 ?
>
> I need this to migrate desktop users from Debian & Ubuntu.
For a recent version of Gnome:
1- Install systemd
..
Cheers,
Ron.
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Whenev
have to run the adjuster program from the command
> line instead of from a magical sequence of mouse clicks, but the result
> is the same, a great font size for your eyes.
Would your kindness extend to giving us the names of the adjuster program, so
we know what to run from the CLI
ill using, with both PC-XT to PS and Serial to USB
adapters, an ancient AT keyboard with built-in trackball..
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Murphy was an optimist.
-- O'Toole
-- http
hey really *short*? Jeez, how happy I am not to have lived
> in those awful times!
All those adjectives, which come from a quote of Thomas Hobbes (1588 – 1679)
refer not to people, but to their lives in preceding ages...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Gli nomini si debbano o vezzeggiat
was invented.
'solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short' come to mind
Cheers,
Ron.
--
It is inexcusable for scientists to torture animals;
let them make their experiments on journalists and politicians.
for his daughter he wished on
> his _own_ systems, but that his daughter wouldn't be plugging USB
> devices into my servers, so I wasn't especially interested in helping
> her there.
I forgot to precise that the t
years of use I have never had the problem of USB/NIC assignment
changing at reboot, except when I had to replace a burnt-out USBtoRJ45 ;-3(
Cheers,
Ron.
--
To succeed, planning alone is insufficient.
One must imp
On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 16:38:18 +0100
Rowland Penny wrote:
> As far as I am aware, each network device should have a different MAC,
> couldn't this be used to identify which device is which ?
Could, but whenever you have to change a NIC after a thunderstorm you are
buggered...
Ch
On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 01:38:00 +1200
Daniel Reurich wrote:
> It implies
> having "net.ifnames=1" in the kernel cmdline to get the "enp0s3"-like
> scheme and not touching anything to get the "eth0" scheme.
+1
Cheers,
Ron.
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Tho
On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 19:35:55 +0200
Adam Borowski wrote:
> And they had no souls even late in Gnome2 days,
> before systemd was even a glimmer in Lennart's eye.
which probably made it easier for the Evil One to take them under his thrall...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
To YOU I&#
On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 18:24:31 +0200
Adam Borowski wrote:
> It really makes me wonder why any distribution still even ships Gnome, much
> less has it as the default.
Could it be because Gnome have sold their immortal souls to Systemd ?
Cheers,
Ron.
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The optimist proclaims that w
first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers.
-- Wm. Shakespeare
Cheers,
Ron.
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Linux: want to know why my computer works.
Macs: don't want to know why my computer works.
DOS: want t
ave *no* bugs ;-)
>
> > - easy maintainability
> > - fast development
> > - what else?
>
> Software would be Free as in freedom.
Documentation ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
The difference between science and the fuzzy subject
is that sci
On Sun, 23 Jul 2017 16:44:40 +0200
Adam Borowski wrote:
> Current parts you get from electronish rubbish are some i5 models, or Core
> Duo if your rubbish pool is that old.
Remember, I live in Darkest Paraguay, our technorubbish is not all that
advanced...
Cheers,
in Paraguay, producing one working
machine out of the wrecks of three or four old PCs given to the school by
commercial businesses that had been upgrading their HW.
And installing Linux (Mandrake 6.2 at the time) so the little dears could not
bugger the installed OS...
Cost: my time...
Ch
or the house LAN is a Pentium II running IPCop.
Is it a coincidence that my three cars are a 1997 Citroën Berlingo, a 1979
Mercedes W123 300D, and a 1971 Cotroën 2CV, not to mention a 1981 250ES MZ m/c ?
Cheers,
Ron.
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When I am working on a problem, I never think about
n, against how many for
64 ?
Cheers,
Ron.
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to judge the work of creative men. There is logic in this; he is unbiased
-- he hates all
People,
Please stop replying, just apply the Del key.
Because unless the list gnomes apply the cluestick (or worse), nothing will
stop those who want to continue with their OT rants, self-righteously claiming
they can do so because someone else also did.
Cheers,
Ron
experience on other highly technical lists (Model Engineering, Steam
railways, etc is that we get those OT threads from time to time, mainly when a
list is slow-moving, and they resolve themselves very quickly when on-topic
posts come back in higher numbers.
Cheers,
Ron.
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Deat
t why would you read a translation into Latin when you can read
one int French or English ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
News is the mother of opinion,
opinion the cause of mass-delusion,
delusion the so
ntiment in _good_ Latin is opaque to my countrymen who aren't
> Latin-proficient, which would impair the joke.)
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... ;-3)
Ave atque vale,
Ron.
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-- http://ww
On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 18:36:40 -0500
Nate Bargmann wrote:
> > > fate accompli
> > "Fate"
> > is very apposite in the circumstance
> One misspell and a person's reputation is shot forever!
> :-)
And me thinking it was purposefully done ;-3)
Cheer
On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 10:25:20 -0500
Nate Bargmann wrote:
> fate accompli
"Fate"
is very apposite in the circumstance
Cheers,
Ron.
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It is a typically Hohenzollern idea to believe that it is a crime
for a country to defend itself after its army has b
-of-war-quotes/
Cheers,
Ron.
--
An ignorant person is one who doesn't know
what you have just found out.
-- Will Rogers
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On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 09:32:52 -0400
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
> > 08/15 is a common german expression for "plain vanilla".
> Reference to the 08/15 rifle still in use during the second world war;
> re-read Hans Hellmut Kirst.
Sorry, machine gun, not
On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 13:21:17 +
rain...@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de wrote:
> 08/15 is a common german expression for "plain vanilla".
Reference to the 08/15 rifle still in use during the second world war; re-read
Hans Hellmut Kirst.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Tod
is
> built to protect your choices, not to rule some of them out for political
> rather than technical causes.
The only interesting information would be: "Is it possible to install and run
Gnome without having installed systemd ?"
Cheers,
Ron.
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