Re: [dns-privacy] What about CGA-TSIG as a solution for DNS privacy?

2014-10-28 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:30 AM, Christian Huitema wrote: > CGA-TSIG is a possible solution to the "secure-provisioning" problem. The > IPv6 CGA address contains a hash of a public key used to secure the > service. If the address is provisioned in a secure manner, then the client > can authentica

Re: [dns-privacy] What about CGA-TSIG as a solution for DNS privacy?

2014-10-28 Thread Hosnieh Rafiee
Hi Christian, Thanks for sharing your opinion about current approaches and also CGA-TSIG. > If we do change the client and resolver, a number of alternatives can > be used, such as: > > * Use the same trick as CGA but encode the hash of the certificate as a > name part, e.g. "AF4563ED0B561.exa

Re: [dns-privacy] What about CGA-TSIG as a solution for DNS privacy?

2014-10-27 Thread Christian Huitema
CGA-TSIG is a possible solution to the "secure-provisioning" problem. The IPv6 CGA address contains a hash of a public key used to secure the service. If the address is provisioned in a secure manner, then the client can authenticate the resolver, by verifying that the resolver's certificate mat

Re: [dns-privacy] What about CGA-TSIG as a solution for DNS privacy?

2014-10-27 Thread Hosnieh Rafiee
Hi Phillip, Thanks for your message. I tagged my message with my name since I converted it to text. TSIG is only authentication so you have to add encryption. And the original TSIG assumed keys would be passed out of band so it needs a key exchange. [Hosnieh] Yes that is true. It is only authe

Re: [dns-privacy] What about CGA-TSIG as a solution for DNS privacy?

2014-10-27 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > On Oct 27, 2014, at 7:36 AM, Hosnieh Rafiee > wrote: > > > So why do you think it is distraction for the WG that addresses privacy? > > I said I thought it was a distraction; discussing it further would be more > of a distraction. > Which

Re: [dns-privacy] What about CGA-TSIG as a solution for DNS privacy?

2014-10-27 Thread Hosnieh Rafiee
> > So why do you think it is distraction for the WG that addresses > privacy? > > I said I thought it was a distraction; discussing it further would be > more of a distraction. Unfortunately, I haven't received any answer to the question that "why it is distraction?". I only received ambiguous

Re: [dns-privacy] What about CGA-TSIG as a solution for DNS privacy?

2014-10-27 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Oct 27, 2014, at 7:36 AM, Hosnieh Rafiee wrote: > So why do you think it is distraction for the WG that addresses privacy? I said I thought it was a distraction; discussing it further would be more of a distraction. --Paul Hoffman ___ dns-privacy

Re: [dns-privacy] What about CGA-TSIG as a solution for DNS privacy?

2014-10-27 Thread Hosnieh Rafiee
> > > > It is a distraction for this WG and should not be considered. > > +1 It would be good to know the reason before just simply say I agree or disagree does not help to understand the reason. Does this group address privacy? If so why a solution to a privacy is not acceptable for this group

Re: [dns-privacy] What about CGA-TSIG as a solution for DNS privacy?

2014-10-27 Thread Hosnieh Rafiee
Hi Paul, > > On Oct 27, 2014, at 1:03 AM, Hosnieh Rafiee > wrote: > > I guess you have heard about CGA-TSIG. What do you think about the > approach explained there? > > Is still has many confusing dependencies that make it hard to > understand, and it vastly oversells the IPv4 capabilities. Wou

Re: [dns-privacy] What about CGA-TSIG as a solution for DNS privacy?

2014-10-27 Thread Warren Kumari
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > On Oct 27, 2014, at 1:03 AM, Hosnieh Rafiee wrote: >> I guess you have heard about CGA-TSIG. What do you think about the approach >> explained there? > > Is still has many confusing dependencies that make it hard to understand, and > it va

Re: [dns-privacy] What about CGA-TSIG as a solution for DNS privacy?

2014-10-27 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Oct 27, 2014, at 1:03 AM, Hosnieh Rafiee wrote: > I guess you have heard about CGA-TSIG. What do you think about the approach > explained there? Is still has many confusing dependencies that make it hard to understand, and it vastly oversells the IPv4 capabilities. > What do you think? It

Re: [dns-privacy] What about CGA-TSIG as a solution for DNS privacy?

2014-10-27 Thread Hosnieh Rafiee
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 09:55:08AM +, Hosnieh Rafiee > wrote a message of 28 lines which said: > > > This is the problem of IETF mailinglist that categorized my message > > automatically under your thread here > > I strongly doubt it, since *your* message included: > > References: <2014

Re: [dns-privacy] What about CGA-TSIG as a solution for DNS privacy?

2014-10-27 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 09:55:08AM +, Hosnieh Rafiee wrote a message of 28 lines which said: > This is the problem of IETF mailinglist that categorized my message > automatically under your thread here I strongly doubt it, since *your* message included: References: <20141027074613.ga14..

Re: [dns-privacy] What about CGA-TSIG as a solution for DNS privacy?

2014-10-27 Thread Hosnieh Rafiee
Hi Stephane, > -Original Message- > From: Stephane Bortzmeyer [mailto:bortzme...@nic.fr] > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 9:23 AM > To: Hosnieh Rafiee > Cc: dns-privacy@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] What about CGA-TSIG as a solution for DNS > privacy? > &

Re: [dns-privacy] What about CGA-TSIG as a solution for DNS privacy?

2014-10-27 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 08:03:48AM +, Hosnieh Rafiee wrote a message of 19 lines which said: > I guess you have heard about CGA-TSIG. Please do not steal threads: start a new thread (otherwise, your message will be filed under the thread I started, for some users). __