Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On 11/23/2013 9:40 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Nov 23, 2013, at 10:19 PM, meekerdb > wrote: On 11/23/2013 2:21 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:23 PM, meekerdb > wrote: On 11/23/2013 3:42 AM, Telmo Menezes wrot

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On Nov 23, 2013, at 10:19 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 11/23/2013 2:21 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:23 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 11/23/2013 3:42 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 5:00 AM, meekerdb wrote: On 11/22/2013 5:38 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On 11/23/2013 2:21 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:23 PM, meekerdb > wrote: On 11/23/2013 3:42 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 5:00 AM, meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote: On 11/22/2013 5:38 AM

Fwd: Geminoid replicator

From another list: Conway's life not only lives - now it can evolve. Brent Original Message Dave Green has put together a replicator for Conway Life. He has several versions. The smallest, fastest, has a bounding box of 3.7M^2, and takes 89M ticks to make a copy. If I'm read

RE: Global warming silliness

From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 10:55 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Global warming silliness On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:23 PM, meekerdb wrote: > On 11/23/2013 3:42 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 5:00 AM, meekerdb wrote: >> >>> On 11/22/2013 5:38 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM, meekerdb wrote: >>> >>> On 11/21/2013 1:50 AM, Bruno M

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 7:23 PM, meekerdb wrote: > On 11/23/2013 3:42 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 5:00 AM, meekerdb wrote: >>> >>> On 11/22/2013 5:38 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM, meekerdb wrote: >>> >>> On 11/21/2013 1:50 AM, Bruno

Re: Nuclear power

Bruno wrote: *"...Health should separate from the State, like the Church."* I respectfully disagree. Health care is a societal duty to be provided for those unfortunate who are not capable of covering their needs - like the poor, dependants of sick people, old folks (the last two only if they do

Re: Global warming silliness

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote: > > > > > *From:* everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto: > everything-list@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *John Clark > *Sent:* Friday, November 22, 2013 12:43 PM > > *To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Global warmi

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On 11/23/2013 3:42 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 5:00 AM, meekerdb wrote: On 11/22/2013 5:38 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 11/21/2013 1:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 20 Nov 2013, at 22:20, Richard Ruquist wrote: Chief Supre

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 2:40 AM, meekerdb wrote: > On 11/22/2013 11:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:00 PM, meekerdb wrote: > >> On 11/22/2013 5:38 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM, meekerdb >> wrote: >> >> On 11/21/2013 1:50 AM,

Re: Belief vs Truth

On 23 Nov 2013, at 16:47, Alberto G. Corona wrote: the factual notions of truth and existence are linked by the notion that what is true kick back and what kick back can render you nonexistent at the moment `t +1` if you negate its truth at the moment `t`. Now natural selection can mak

Re: Belief vs Truth

On 23 Nov 2013, at 16:30, Alberto G. Corona wrote: 2013/11/23 Bruno Marchal On 23 Nov 2013, at 07:09, Chris de Morsella wrote: From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 9:11 PM To: everythin

Re: Why analytic (British) philosophy (Bertrand Russell) has led humanity and ai astray

On 23 Nov 2013, at 15:27, Roger Clough wrote: Analytic (British) philosophy (Bertrand Russell, Anthony Flew. etc.) has led humanity and ai astray, because it limits philosophy to word and logic puzzles. Thus it cannot tell us about experiential human affairs such as consciousness and true ai

Re: Atheism is wish fulfillment

On 23 Nov 2013, at 14:05, Roger Clough wrote: Atheism is wish fulfillment. Yes. Notably. I agree. It is the fuzzy belief that the Christian God does not exist, together with the belief in the Christian "Matter". The debate between Atheists and Christians hides the deeper debate betw

Re: ai and atheism

On 23 Nov 2013, at 13:27, Roger Clough wrote: What I find curious is that so much time and vitriol is spent on the web attacking theism, while so much money is spent on ai and computers to simulate humans, when nobody has ever shown or proven that computers can be conscious. Nor has an

Re: Belief vs Truth

the factual notions of truth and existence are linked by the notion that what is true kick back and what kick back can render you nonexistent at the moment `t +1` if you negate its truth at the moment `t`. Now natural selection can make the units of time really really long. So it is not a surpri

Re: Belief vs Truth

2013/11/23 Bruno Marchal > > On 23 Nov 2013, at 07:09, Chris de Morsella wrote: > > > > *From:* everything-list@googlegroups.com [ > mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com > ] *On Behalf Of *meekerdb > *Sent:* Friday, November 22, 2013 9:11 PM > *To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com > *Subjec

Why analytic philosophers are atheists and materialists

Analytic (British) philosophy (Bertrand Russell, Anthony Flew. etc.) has led humanity and ai astray, because it limits philosophy to word and logic puzzles and thus legitimizes atheism and materialism. Humanity has been sold short because British analytical philosophy cannot tell us about expe

Why analytic (British) philosophy (Bertrand Russell) has led humanity and ai astray

Analytic (British) philosophy (Bertrand Russell, Anthony Flew. etc.) has led humanity and ai astray, because it limits philosophy to word and logic puzzles. Thus it cannot tell us about experiential human affairs such as consciousness and true ai. However, continental philsophy can. (Leibniz,

Re: ai and atheism

On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Roger Clough wrote: > > > What I find curious is that so much time and vitriol is spent on the web > attacking theism, > while so much money is spent on ai and computers to simulate humans, when > nobody has ever shown or proven that computers can be conscious. It

Atheism is wish fuklfillment.

Atheism is wish fulfillment. Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] See my Leibniz site at http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving ema

Athism is wish fuklfillment.

Athism is wish fulfillment. Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] See my Leibniz site at http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emai

Atheism is wish fulfillment

Atheism is wish fulfillment. Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] See my Leibniz site at http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving e

ai and atheism

What I find curious is that so much time and vitriol is spent on the web attacking theism, while so much money is spent on ai and computers to simulate humans, when nobody has ever shown or proven that computers can be conscious. Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] See my Leibniz site a

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 5:00 AM, meekerdb wrote: > On 11/22/2013 5:38 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM, meekerdb wrote: > > On 11/21/2013 1:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 20 Nov 2013, at 22:20, Richard Ruquist wrote: > > Chief Supreme Court Justice Marshall usurped

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On 23 Nov 2013, at 07:42, Jason Resch wrote: On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:09 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 21 Nov 2013, at 18:55, Jason Resch wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 21 Nov 2013, at 15:50, Jason Resch wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 3:45

RE: Belief vs Truth

From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruno Marchal Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 1:14 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Belief vs Truth On 23 Nov 2013, at 07:09, Chris de Morsella wrote: From: ev

Re: Belief vs Truth

On 23 Nov 2013, at 07:09, Chris de Morsella wrote: From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 9:11 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Belief vs Truth On 11/22/2013 3:24 PM, John M

RE: Global warming silliness

From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 10:32 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Global warming silliness On 11/22/2013 7:03 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote: From: everythin

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On 23 Nov 2013, at 05:00, meekerdb wrote: On 11/22/2013 5:38 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 11/21/2013 1:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 20 Nov 2013, at 22:20, Richard Ruquist wrote: Chief Supreme Court Justice Marshall usurped the Constitution