On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 6:33:15 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote:
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> Hi Craig Weinberg
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> By sense do you mean Firstness, Secondness or Thirdness?
> Or all three as a process ?
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> Using these as a guide:
(from http://www.helsinki.fi/science/commens/terms/thirdness.html)
Firstness is th
Hi Craig Weinberg
By sense do you mean Firstness, Secondness or Thirdness?
Or all three as a process ?
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
10/17/2012
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen
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Magic emergence from magic enough complexity has been advocated for almost
anything. Most of the time as an excuse for not saying "I don´t know",
that is the prerequisite for thinking deeper about the problem. I prefer to
say I don´t know.
2012/10/16 Roger Clough
> Hi Stephen P. King
>
> Thank
Hi Stephen P. King
This may have little connection to what you said,
but in one of Brain Greene's talks (on time) he
made mention that the subjective state, the
experiential state, always just experiences "now."
Similarly calculations flow in time as they are made,
and the one being made is ma
Hi Stephen P. King
Thanks. My mistake was to say that P's position is that
consciousness, arises at (or above ?)
the level of noncomputability. He just seems to
say that intuiton does. But that just seems
to be a conjecture of his.
ugh, rclo...@verizon.net
10/16/2012
"Forever is a long time
Hi Craig Weinberg
You said,
" Computation is an overly simplified emergent property of sense.
If you could have computation without sense, then there would be no
consciousness."
That sounds potent, I'm but not sure what it means.
Could you expand on it a little ?
Roger Clough, rclo...@veri
Hi Richard Ruquist
I'm well aware of that, except you don't need
Godel to reach an impossibly complex state of
calculations. My own position is that if you
can't calculate upward any more, you calculate
downward. From Platonia, except that you begin
to use the forms, numbers, reason, all of t
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