Re: [fossil-users] Veracity

A couple weeks ago I posted about the possibility of a new configuration setting called something like "allow-binmerge" (default off). If it is enabled, and there is a gmerge-command set, could Fossil call the gmerge-command to resolve a binary merge conflict? I would like to be able to handle mer

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity (was: Fwd: suggestion on fossil)

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Mike Meyer wrote: > On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:24:17 -0700 > Matt Welland wrote: > > > I sent out a description of how I think light weight "locks" could be > > implemented on top of fossil in a past email. In fact I'm making some > good > > progress on implementing

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity (was: Fwd: suggestion on fossil)

On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:24:17 -0700 Matt Welland wrote: > I sent out a description of how I think light weight "locks" could be > implemented on top of fossil in a past email. In fact I'm making some good > progress on implementing what I want in a wrapper around fossil (implement > locks in addit

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity (was: Fwd: suggestion on fossil)

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Michael Barrow wrote: > I get it, but I don't get it. Locks don't make sense in a DVCS. If I'm on a > plane (without wifi, of course) and I want to edit a binary file, I'd be > hosed because I wouldn't be able to push the lock to the "central" server. > Sure it w

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity (was: Fwd: suggestion on fossil)

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 1:45 AM, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 06:42:21PM -0400, Richard Hipp wrote: > > The only problem with binary files is that you cannot merge them. > > ...moment. A merge program could extract the zip archive, do a *textual* > merge on the XML files an

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity (was: Fwd: suggestion on fossil)

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 06:42:21PM -0400, Richard Hipp wrote: > The only problem with binary files is that you cannot merge them. Even that is not necessarily true. You can't merge binary files like text files -- sure. But it doesn't mean that for a specific binary format, a merge algorithm isn't

Re: [fossil-users] Adding Fossil to Windows Explorer context menu?

On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:22:38 -0400, Tomek Kott wrote: >For windows users, there is already an effort to get fossil extended to the >explorer context menu. I think there's a need for a simple group + items that we can simply use through file managers like Windows Explorer without launching a full-

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity (was: Fwd: suggestion on fossil)

I get it, but I don't get it. Locks don't make sense in a DVCS. If I'm on a plane (without wifi, of course) and I want to edit a binary file, I'd be hosed because I wouldn't be able to push the lock to the "central" server. What if, like the Fossil main repo for example, there are two central serv

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity (was: Fwd: suggestion on fossil)

I sent out a description of how I think light weight "locks" could be implemented on top of fossil in a past email. In fact I'm making some good progress on implementing what I want in a wrapper around fossil (implement locks in addition to some other things). I can look into making the wrapper ava

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity (was: Fwd: suggestion on fossil)

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Michael Barrow wrote: > No -- please no locks! > Concur. Locks are out-of-band for Fossil. If anybody thinks they really, really need locks, I'll be happy to offer them a referral to Veracity. Note that Fossil works just fine with binary files. Fossil's self

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity (was: Fwd: suggestion on fossil)

No -- please no locks! Remember, you are still free to use out-of-band mechanisms to contact the other developers to coordinate your activity: email, telephone, tweet, smoke signals, carrier pigeons, etc. On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Stephan Beal wrote: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Ste

Re: [fossil-users] Locks (Was: Veracity)

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 07:41:56PM +0200, Stephan Beal wrote: >> That could even help even before fossil having a capability of >> centraliising locks; the read-only permissions could be enough for >> the people in a team to decide on the locks. > Can we do read-only cross-platform (i.e. Windows)?

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity

BTW, I just cloned Veracity source using veracity (vv) and realized that the repo consists of 13 sqlite DBs (WAL mode) + 1 external BLOB file (+ counting number simple sqlite3 files with containing table) On 19.10.2011 15:39, Lluís Batlle i Rossell wrote: On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 08:18:01AM -04

Re: [fossil-users] Zenburn color theme for Fossil

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Rolf Meinecke wrote: > > If you need a place to host such a repo, i can get one set up for you. > > If someone set up a skin central repo, I'd be happy to contribute the > zenburn skin. > http://fossil.wanderinghorse.net/repos/fossil-skins/ i've set you up as th

Re: [fossil-users] Zenburn color theme for Fossil

Am 19.10.2011 um 19:33 schrieb Stephan Beal: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Rolf Meinecke wrote: > Wouldn't it be sufficient to run one Fossil instance for this purpose? > Like in "eat your own dogfood"? > > LOL! A skin-demo site could work if the anonymous user had the rights to > change t

Re: [fossil-users] Locks (Was: Veracity)

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 10:50:05AM -0700, Mike Meyer wrote: > 2011/10/19 Lluís Batlle i Rossell > > No, I take that back. You could force locking to use a central server model. > For each repository, you have to set a repository as the "lock server". > Using "self" or some such would mean "You ar

Re: [fossil-users] Locks (Was: Veracity)

2011/10/19 Lluís Batlle i Rossell > On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 09:38:44AM -0700, Mike Meyer wrote: > > This requires a lot of work on fossils part in order to be reliable. > If I had to implement that on fossil, I'd use some kind of table like the > shun > table, propagated on autosync, that would b

Re: [fossil-users] Locks (Was: Veracity)

2011/10/19 Lluís Batlle i Rossell > Well, the tags name or value could have the file name. > That's an idea. But we would also need the branch, wouldn't we? Or does the tag follow the branch? > Maybe, instead of tags, there could be a list like the versionable > 'glob-ignore', of files that re

Re: [fossil-users] Locks (Was: Veracity)

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 07:27:56PM +0200, Stephan Beal wrote: > 2011/10/19 Lluís Batlle i Rossell > > > the file, and that also has only an informative role. Maybe something like > > propagated tags could mark files as needs_lock, and act accordingly on > > updates/checkouts/... > > > > You foun

Re: [fossil-users] Zenburn color theme for Fossil

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Rolf Meinecke wrote: > Wouldn't it be sufficient to run one Fossil instance for this purpose? > Like in "eat your own dogfood"? > LOL! A skin-demo site could work if the anonymous user had the rights to change the skin. i don't think that will work right now with

Re: [fossil-users] Locks (Was: Veracity)

2011/10/19 Lluís Batlle i Rossell > the file, and that also has only an informative role. Maybe something like > propagated tags could mark files as needs_lock, and act accordingly on > updates/checkouts/... > You found another use for propagating tags ;). As someone pointed out the original th

Re: [fossil-users] Zenburn color theme for Fossil

Hi! Am 19.10.2011 um 03:10 schrieb Christopher Berardi: > I think it would be a great idea to have some kind of repository where fossil > users could share things like color schemes (or possibly extensions some day). > Something along the lines of gnome-look.org. Wouldn't it be sufficient to run

Re: [fossil-users] Locks (Was: Veracity)

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 09:38:44AM -0700, Mike Meyer wrote: > This requires a lot of work on fossils part in order to be reliable. Unlike > source changes, you can't do a commit and then require a merge before > pushing if there's a collision. There are also nasty restrictions on how you > do thing

[fossil-users] Locks (Was: Veracity)

This requires a lot of work on fossils part in order to be reliable. Unlike source changes, you can't do a commit and then require a merge before pushing if there's a collision. There are also nasty restrictions on how you do things. In particular, you have to have autosync on (or ignore it if off)

Re: [fossil-users] Adding Fossil to Windows Explorer context menu?

For windows users, there is already an effort to get fossil extended to the explorer context menu. At the moment, the C# library for fossil commands is being written. See Ingo's "SharpFossil" library implementation for .NET purposes: http://repository.mobile-developers.de/cgi-bin/ikoch/sharpfossil/

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Alaric Snell-Pym wrote: > Tags apply to whole commits, though, not individual files. Perhaps > Doh, you're right. And it sounded so simple. :/ -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ ___ fossil-us

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/19/2011 03:52 PM, Stephan Beal wrote: > Could a new "special" tag be used to implement lock-like behaviour? By > "special" i mean a reserved name (or name pattern, e.g. locked-by-USERNAME). Tags apply to whole commits, though, not individual f

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity (was: Fwd: suggestion on fossil)

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Stephan Beal wrote: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Remigiusz Modrzejewski < > l...@maxnet.org.pl> wrote: > >> >> I seem to be still in the 80's... So how do you cope with edit conflicts >> on binary files today? >> > > i wasn't aware that people use them for b

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity (was: Fwd: suggestion on fossil)

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Remigiusz Modrzejewski wrote: > > On Oct 19, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Stephan Beal wrote: > > My 0.02€: in some 16 years of using source control, i have never once > had a > > use for (and sometimes been hindered by) locks. IMO anyone who _thinks_ > they > > need them is

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity

2011/10/19 Lluís Batlle i Rossell > > I think that the veracity documentation totally deludes. :) But it may be > intended, as it's a product of sourcegear. Eric wrote a book about it... > and his > message is (I think) "buy the book". Actuallythey're giving the book away. I got a free copy

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity (was: Fwd: suggestion on fossil)

On Oct 19, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Stephan Beal wrote: > 2011/10/19 Lluís Batlle i Rossell > >> Whether to support locks... I think it can help some users, but I don't >> have use >> cases in my day to day. >> > > My 0.02€: in some 16 years of using source control, i have never once had a > use fo

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 08:21:55AM -0500, Eric Sink wrote: > > > IMO anyone who > > _thinks_ they need them is still living > > in the 1980's or early 1990's. > > Tell that to the gaming companies. They use version control, > and their repositories contain large numbers of very large > binary fi

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity

On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:56:47 +0200 Stephan Beal wrote: > So the master plan is to create an SCM for the sole purpose of > selling books about the SCM (whose sole purpose is to sell a book > about...)? Actually, Eric gave away this book ;-) -- Dmitry Chestnykh http://www.codingrobots.com __

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 08:26:23AM -0500, Eric Sink wrote: > You can get the book in HTML, PDF or EPUB here: > > http://www.ericsink.com/vcbe/ I was sure you were in this list ;) Thank you for the link! > On 10/19/11 7:56 AM, Stephan Beal wrote: > >2011/10/19 Lluís Batlle i Rossell >

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity (was: Fwd: suggestion on fossil)

On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:50:26 +0200 Stephan Beal wrote: > My 0.02€: in some 16 years of using source control, i have never > once had a use for (and sometimes been hindered by) locks. IMO anyone > who _thinks_ they need them is still living in the 1980's or early > 1990's. Just for fun: a lock s

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity

Er, no. The book is free. I mean actually, er, free. In both electronic and paper forms. You can get the book in HTML, PDF or EPUB here: http://www.ericsink.com/vcbe/ The paper version is 288 pages in full color. We've shipped out over 13,000 copies, including free postage, to people all o

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity

> IMO anyone who > _thinks_ they need them is still living > in the 1980's or early 1990's. Tell that to the gaming companies. They use version control, and their repositories contain large numbers of very large binary files (images). The absence of locks in the DVCS world is the main reason t

Re: [fossil-users] Adding Fossil to Windows Explorer context menu?

On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 09:33:15 +0200, Kohn Bernhard wrote: >thanks for sharing the idea using Fast Explorer. I find it very good! Actually, it's not that good because... - it requires installing Fast Explorer - it requires adding a fossil.bat just to call "pause" to keep the DOS box open after fos

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity

Ah, thank you. Now I understand. And it looks to me like a big headache waiting to happen. Relying on people following "intentions" of the software is not very robust. On 10/19/2011 02:55 PM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell wrote: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 02:52:41PM +0200, Ron Aaron wrote: >> And furth

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity

2011/10/19 Lluís Batlle i Rossell > I think that the veracity documentation totally deludes. :) But it may be > intended, as it's a product of sourcegear. Eric wrote a book about it... > and his > message is (I think) "buy the book". > > So the master plan is to create an SCM for the sole purpose

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 02:52:41PM +0200, Ron Aaron wrote: > And furthermore, how exactly do "locks" work in a distributed SCM > context? (that was my 2 NIS) http://veracity-scm.com/qa/questions/102/why-would-you-design-a-dvcs-in-2011-that-supports-file-locks-dvcs-are-meant-to-make-it-needless-to-

Re: [fossil-users] Fwd: suggestion on fossil

On Wednesday 19 of October 2011 14:35:54 Remigiusz Modrzejewski wrote: > On Oct 19, 2011, at 2:18 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > > I have two suggestion on fossil: > > > > (1) support LDAP. It is a essential function for a large enterprise to > > manage users login and authentication. > > > >

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity

And furthermore, how exactly do "locks" work in a distributed SCM context? (that was my 2 NIS) On 10/19/2011 02:50 PM, Stephan Beal wrote: > > My 0.02€: in some 16 years of using source control, i have never once > had a use for (and sometimes been hindered by) locks. IMO anyone who > _thinks_ th

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity (was: Fwd: suggestion on fossil)

2011/10/19 Lluís Batlle i Rossell > Whether to support locks... I think it can help some users, but I don't > have use > cases in my day to day. > My 0.02€: in some 16 years of using source control, i have never once had a use for (and sometimes been hindered by) locks. IMO anyone who _thinks_

[fossil-users] Veracity (was: Fwd: suggestion on fossil)

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 08:18:01AM -0400, Richard Hipp wrote: > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Yujianbin > > (2) support lock command, http://veracity-scm.org has this command. As Yujianbin mentions veracity... I saw some videos about veracity. From the web page, the author

Re: [fossil-users] Fwd: suggestion on fossil

On Oct 19, 2011, at 2:18 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > I have two suggestion on fossil: > > (1) support LDAP. It is a essential function for a large enterprise to > manage users login and authentication. > > (2) support lock command, http://veracity-scm.org has this command. My $0.02:

[fossil-users] Fwd: suggestion on fossil

-- Forwarded message -- From: Yujianbin Date: 2011/10/18 Subject: suggestion on fossil To: "d...@hwaci.com" Hi, D. Richard Hipp, ** ** I have two suggestion on fossil: (1) support LDAP. It is a essential function for a large enterprise to manage users login and authe

Re: [fossil-users] css-wiki?

Yay Ron Georgia John 13:23 Sent from my iPad (cool) On Oct 16, 2011, at 8:49 PM, Jan Danielsson wrote: > Hello, > > I'm thinking it might be a good idea to write a wiki-page with a > short introduction/guide to the CSS editor in fossil, with a chapter > dedicated to helping users [who don't

Re: [fossil-users] Adding Fossil to Windows Explorer context menu?

Hi Gilles, thanks for sharing the idea using Fast Explorer. I find it very good! For my personal use I have written a small .net program FossilCmd for opening a windows command console and sending fossil commands to it. The windows command console remains open until I close it directly. If there

[fossil-users] Adding Fossil to Windows Explorer context menu?

Hi Gilles, thanks for sharing the idea using Fast Explorer. I find it very good! For my personal use I have written a small .net program FossilCmd for opening a windows command console and sending fossil commands to it. The windows command console remains open until I close it directly. If there