Re: Jakarta: too many similar projects?

2003-03-16 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 17/3/03 1:24 "Hans Bergsten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree that there's been problem with the Servlet EG this time around, > but what I'm saying is that there are avenues that we _could_ have > used to voice our concerns, but we didn't for some reason. There are a > number of mailing lis

Re: Jakarta: too many similar projects?

2003-03-16 Thread Hans Bergsten
Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 16/3/03 20:20 "Hans Bergsten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Geir, I _really_ am in troubles when dealing with Servlets. I cannot raise issues on the tomcat-dev mailing lists, all I can do is discuss them with Jon and Jason, as they both are on the spec... You can raise and di

re: JCP NDA (was: too many similar projects?)

2003-03-16 Thread Rich Persaud
| > Software history is replete with creation of new "economic tiers". Even | > "open-source" has it's GPL, BSD and countless other camplets. If an | > existing organization can't serve multiple audiences, is there room and | > reason for a supplemental one? | > | | You mean is there room

re: Jakarta: too many similar projects?

2003-03-16 Thread Rich Persaud
| As you are on the EG yourself, you know how hard it is to have one word | removed from the next revision of the spec once it gets in :-) | | Just thinking out loud... | | Pier When a culture of discussion comes into conflict with a culture of bureaucracy, debate is not an optimal change ins

Re: Jakarta: too many similar projects?

2003-03-16 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 16/3/03 23:32 "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW, I *think* that you should be able to discuss the issues with any > ASF member, if you are representing the ASF on the EG, not just other > EG members. We all are bound by the agreements made by the ASF. In fact I post my con

Re: Jakarta: too many similar projects?

2003-03-16 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 02:53 PM, Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 12/3/03 6:53 "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 10:58 PM, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: As it turns out, there is substantial room for innovation and debate in the implementation of API spec

Re: Jakarta: too many similar projects?

2003-03-16 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 16/3/03 20:20 "Hans Bergsten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Geir, I _really_ am in troubles when dealing with Servlets. I cannot raise >> issues on the tomcat-dev mailing lists, all I can do is discuss them with >> Jon and Jason, as they both are on the spec... > > You can raise and discuss

Re: Jakarta: too many similar projects?

2003-03-16 Thread Hans Bergsten
Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 12/3/03 6:53 "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 10:58 PM, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: As it turns out, there is substantial room for innovation and debate in the implementation of API specs like servlet and JSP (see the history

Re: Jakarta: too many similar projects?

2003-03-16 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 12/3/03 6:53 "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 10:58 PM, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: >> >> As it turns out, there is substantial room for innovation and debate in >> the implementation of API specs like servlet and JSP (see the history >> of >>

Re: fair notice

2003-03-16 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Doh! someone just sent this to me. I didn't notice the date! thanks for pointing that out. Theoretically I suppose you could patent OLE 2 Compound document format... "Bad way to aggregate objects into a mock filesystem inside of a file" Glad its old news! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The link