On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 02:53 PM, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
On 12/3/03 6:53 "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 10:58 PM, Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
As it turns out, there is substantial room for innovation and debate in
the implementation of API specs like servlet and JSP (see the history
of
Tomcat development, and the recent innovation going on there for an
example), just like there is lots of room to be creative in
implementing
something like HTTP, which has been done, and continues to be done, in
a very large number of implementations in a very large number of
languages -- despite the fact that the W3C standards process, like many
others, includes periods of time when only the "privileged few" are
allowed to be involved.
Take it a step further - how many internationally recognized standards processes will allow a single individual to propose, develop and deliver a standard? The JCP will...
Yes, but why can I share with my friends concerns on the new W3C
specifications and confront them in public, while I cannot do that with the
JCP specifications???
You can do that after they are public specs, right? You can do the same with complete JCP-produced specs.
Geir, I _really_ am in troubles when dealing with Servlets. I cannot raise
issues on the tomcat-dev mailing lists, all I can do is discuss them with
Jon and Jason, as they both are on the spec...
I realize this isn't perfect. In some cases, it's not even good, the servlet EG sound like it belongs in the 'not good' category. I think we'd all like to see things changed so that there's a more open process for spec development, and there is a lot of interest on the JCP Exec Committee surrounding this issue.
BTW, I *think* that you should be able to discuss the issues with any ASF member, if you are representing the ASF on the EG, not just other EG members. We all are bound by the agreements made by the ASF.
geir
Pier
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