Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-10 Thread Chris Stankevitz
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>=sys-fs/udev-171, which is stable. Are you sure you don't have > anything in /etc/portage/package.keywords? I know it sounds absurd, but... I have no package.keywords file. My package.use is small and benign. My make.conf is also ben

Re: [gentoo-user] WM that does not require policykit, consolekit, and gudev

2012-09-10 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 00:20 +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Chris Stankevitz > wrote: > > > > 3. Select another WM that is more "lightweight" and doesn't require > > these USE flags. > > > > I'm leaning towards (3). > > > > Can you recommend a WM that will not requ

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-10 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 03:56:20PM -0700, Chris Stankevitz wrote > Also, ideally after I know about it I'd like to be able to > "understand" and derive on my own the answer to this question: > "is it possible for TWM to recognize when I plug in a USB thumbdrive > and display it for me to use."

Re: [gentoo-user] WM that does not require policykit, consolekit, and gudev

2012-09-10 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 02:19:51PM -0700, Chris Stankevitz wrote > 3. Select another WM that is more "lightweight" and doesn't require > these USE flags. > > I'm leaning towards (3). > > Can you recommend a WM that will not require me to enable gudev, > policykit, and consolekit? See my sig.

Re: [gentoo-user] Heads-up; bash now uses "readline" USE flag

2012-09-10 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:15:47AM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote > But I stay clear of "-*" ... that thing's too eeevil for me... :-) I realize "-*" requires extra work, and I'm willing to do it. That includes finding solutions to obscure problems. Maybe it's because I'm a control freak. -- Wal

Re: [gentoo-user] Weird hibernate problem

2012-09-10 Thread W.Kenworthy
Hi Timur, we need a lot more information: what kernel version in kernel or ToI hibernation are you using genkernel separate /usr lvm and anything else applicable. Hibernation can be a pig to get going. BillK -Original Message- From: Timur Aydin Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-user] Heads-up; bash now uses "readline" USE flag

2012-09-10 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Sep 11, 2012 5:58 AM, "Neil Bothwick" wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:19:38 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > > I'd rather have that that an unusable shell. As was noted elsewhere > > > this weekend, even if a USE flag is set but renamed, -* screws it > > > up. > > > > So no matter what I do

Re: [gentoo-user] stage3/handbook mismatch

2012-09-10 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Sep 11, 2012 9:31 AM, "Mark Knecht" wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > > On Sep 11, 2012 5:19 AM, "Mark Knecht" wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Chris Stankevitz > >> wrote: > >> > On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Mark Knecht > >> > wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Chris Stankevitz > wrote: > [snip] >> # 2012-09-10: appease thunar >> xfce-base/thunar -udev > > This makes no sense; the udev flag in thunar only asks for >>=sys-fs/udev-171, which is stable. Are you s

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: [snip] > # 2012-09-10: appease thunar > xfce-base/thunar -udev This makes no sense; the udev flag in thunar only asks for >=sys-fs/udev-171, which is stable. Are you sure you don't have anything in /etc/portage/package.keywords? By the way

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-10 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Sep 11, 2012 6:40 AM, "Paul Hartman" wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Chris Stankevitz > wrote: > > Gentoo is the best distribution I have used (I haven't used too many: > > ubuntu, fedora, gentoo). I love the USE flags. I love watching (and > > questioning) what is going to be in

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-10 Thread Chris Stankevitz
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > Can I see your USE Canek, Thank you for your help. My USE flags are pretty benign. I'm beginning to suspect something is grossly wrong with my setup. Below I will post my USE line from make.conf and my entire package.use. # make.

Re: [gentoo-user] stage3/handbook mismatch

2012-09-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > On Sep 11, 2012 5:19 AM, "Mark Knecht" wrote: >> >> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Chris Stankevitz >> wrote: >> > On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Mark Knecht >> > wrote: >> >> That's a very new change just announced globally today and

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-10 Thread Chris Stankevitz
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > The problem seems to be the use of static libraries I temporarily worked around by adding "xfce-base/thunar -udev" to package.use. Somehow building thunar with udev introduced the mess. Chris

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: [snip] > I got farther this time, but it seems that emerge is still asking a lot of me. > > Eventhough I think it's odd (and a sign that I screwed up somewhere), > I can satisfy the USE flag requests and the ~amd64 requests. > > I do not kn

Re: [gentoo-user] stage3/handbook mismatch

2012-09-10 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Sep 11, 2012 5:19 AM, "Mark Knecht" wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Chris Stankevitz > wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> That's a very new change just announced globally today and only for > >> new installs. Take a look at eselect news for more in

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-10 Thread Chris Stankevitz
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > Try reemerging world with USE="-static -static-libs", and then try to > emerge thunar also with USE="-static -static-libs". Canek, Thank you for your help. I 1. added "-static -static-libs" to /etc/make.conf USE. 2. emerge --newuse -

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > I installed xfce4-meta and was a little surprised to see it did not > come with thunar. When I tried to install it, portage became upset. > > Question: is it normal that I would have to ~amd64 a bunch of packages > and deal with slot con

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > I installed xfce4-meta and was a little surprised to see it did not > come with thunar. When I tried to install it, portage became upset. > > Question: is it normal that I would have to ~amd64 a bunch of packages > and deal with slot con

[gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-10 Thread Chris Stankevitz
I installed xfce4-meta and was a little surprised to see it did not come with thunar. When I tried to install it, portage became upset. Question: is it normal that I would have to ~amd64 a bunch of packages and deal with slot conflicts and static-libs to install a file manager? FYI I am running

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-10 Thread Chris Stankevitz
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > For the release to use new packages with their new magic features, > every other package using those packages must also be recompiled I see now. > The only sane way to deal with this is to peg > the packages at version levels and stick with

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Gentoo is the best distribution I have used (I haven't used too many: > ubuntu, fedora, gentoo). I love the USE flags. I love watching (and > questioning) what is going to be installed. I love emerge. > Supposedly gentoo lacks being abl

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Reinstall + switch to KDE

2012-09-10 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 09:36:25PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:53:41 -0400 > Andrey Moshbear wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Nikos Chantziaras > > wrote: > > > On 10/09/12 19:12, Samuraiii wrote: > > >> > > >> Hello, > > >> because I broke me PC and I need

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-10 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Gentoo is the best distribution I have used (I haven't used too many: > ubuntu, fedora, gentoo). I love the USE flags. I love watching (and > questioning) what is going to be installed. I love emerge. > Supposedly gentoo lacks being abl

Re: [gentoo-user] WM that does not require policykit, consolekit, and gudev

2012-09-10 Thread Michael Mol
On Sep 10, 2012 7:14 PM, "Chris Stankevitz" wrote: > > Hello, > > I installed twm to test my xorg as per the gentoo install docs. Works great! > > Then I decided to install what I thought would be a lightweight WM: > xfce4 with "emerge -vat xfce4-meta". Unfortunately emerge didn't want > to cont

Re: [gentoo-user] WM that does not require policykit, consolekit, and gudev

2012-09-10 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > > 3. Select another WM that is more "lightweight" and doesn't require > these USE flags. > > I'm leaning towards (3). > > Can you recommend a WM that will not require me to enable gudev, > policykit, and consolekit? > I think openbox does

Re: [gentoo-user] Having the possibility to set the system-wide locale settings

2012-09-10 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joshua Murphy wrote: >> A 'locale' is a collection of character set, language, date/time >> format, currency format, etc > > Josh, > > Thank you. I now understand what a "locale" is. It is surprising to

[gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-10 Thread Chris Stankevitz
Hello, Can someone refer me to a source that explains how when I plug in a USB "thumb drive" it appears on my XFCE4 desktop (or any other WM)? Ideally the answer will use words like: daemon hal udev policykit consolekit /etc/init.d/* hotplug gvfs mount automount pmount gnome-volume-manager udisks

Re: [gentoo-user] Heads-up; bash now uses "readline" USE flag

2012-09-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:19:38 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > > I'd rather have that that an unusable shell. As was noted elsewhere > > this weekend, even if a USE flag is set but renamed, -* screws it > > up. > > So no matter what I do or don't do, a developer can find a way to > screw me up. Ye

Re: [gentoo-user] Heads-up; bash now uses "readline" USE flag

2012-09-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 00:07:08 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Montag, 10. September 2012, 15:19:38 schrieb Walter Dnes: > > On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 08:41:36AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote > > > > > On Sat, 8 Sep 2012 23:42:45 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > > > Isn't readline enabled by defa

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-10 Thread G.Wolfe Woodbury
On 09/10/2012 05:46 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Gentoo is the best distribution I have used (I haven't used too many: > ubuntu, fedora, gentoo). I love the USE flags. I love watching (and > questioning) what is going to be installed. I love emerge. > Supposedly gentoo lacks being able to have

Re: [gentoo-user] WM that does not require policykit, consolekit, and gudev

2012-09-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:31:28 -0500 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Chris Stankevitz > wrote: > [snip] > > 1. Understand gudev, policykit, and consolekit and not be frightened > > of them (a tall order given the google results I am getting). Then > > enable the USE

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:46:14 -0700 Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Gentoo is the best distribution I have used (I haven't used too many: > ubuntu, fedora, gentoo). I love the USE flags. I love watching (and > questioning) what is going to be installed. I love emerge. > Supposedly gentoo lacks being

Re: [gentoo-user] stage3/handbook mismatch

2012-09-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> That's a very new change just announced globally today and only for >> new installs. Take a look at eselect news for more info. > > What a coincidence! I went with the older stage3 a

Re: [gentoo-user] Heads-up; bash now uses "readline" USE flag

2012-09-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag, 10. September 2012, 15:19:38 schrieb Walter Dnes: > On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 08:41:36AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote > > > On Sat, 8 Sep 2012 23:42:45 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > > Isn't readline enabled by default on all reasonable profiles? Do > > > > you have USE="-* in make.conf? I

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-10 Thread Dale
Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Gentoo is the best distribution I have used (I haven't used too many: > ubuntu, fedora, gentoo). I love the USE flags. I love watching (and > questioning) what is going to be installed. I love emerge. > Supposedly gentoo lacks being able to have a system "just work" > w

Re: [gentoo-user] WM that does not require policykit, consolekit, and gudev

2012-09-10 Thread G.Wolfe Woodbury
On 09/10/2012 05:19 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > 3. Select another WM that is more "lightweight" and doesn't require > these USE flags. > > I'm leaning towards (3). > > Can you recommend a WM that will not require me to enable gudev, > policykit, and consolekit? > When I want a real barebones desk

[gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-10 Thread Chris Stankevitz
Gentoo is the best distribution I have used (I haven't used too many: ubuntu, fedora, gentoo). I love the USE flags. I love watching (and questioning) what is going to be installed. I love emerge. Supposedly gentoo lacks being able to have a system "just work" without thinking about anything. B

Re: [gentoo-user] WM that does not require policykit, consolekit, and gudev

2012-09-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: [snip] > 1. Understand gudev, policykit, and consolekit and not be frightened > of them (a tall order given the google results I am getting). Then > enable the USE flags and install xfce4-meta FWIW, the idea behind gudev, polkit and (soon

[gentoo-user] WM that does not require policykit, consolekit, and gudev

2012-09-10 Thread Chris Stankevitz
Hello, I installed twm to test my xorg as per the gentoo install docs. Works great! Then I decided to install what I thought would be a lightweight WM: xfce4 with "emerge -vat xfce4-meta". Unfortunately emerge didn't want to continue without some changes from me involving USE flags gudev, polic

Re: [gentoo-user] Weird hibernate problem

2012-09-10 Thread Timur Aydin
One unusual property of this system is that it has 5 additional SATA disks to be used for RAID experiments, in addition to the disk holding gentoo. So there are a total of 6 disks. But during these experiments, these 5 additional disks are not mounted. The motherboard is an Asus P8V68Z-VPRO/GE

Re: [gentoo-user] Weird hibernate problem

2012-09-10 Thread Timur Aydin
I have just tried again using pm-suspend and the same thing happens. Everything looks like it has worked, but when I do a ps ax, there are many (currently around 50) sleeping kernel threads. There are also a few extraneous "migration, ksoftirq" threads intermixed. -- Timur

[gentoo-user] Weird hibernate problem

2012-09-10 Thread Timur Aydin
After corrupting my gentoo root filesystem system during hibernate experiments, I have finally finished the reinstallation. But hibernate still doesn't seem to work correctly. The symptoms are the same as during the experiments leading to the root fs corruption, but this time the root seems to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Reinstall + switch to KDE

2012-09-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:53:41 -0400 > Andrey Moshbear wrote: > >> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Nikos Chantziaras >> wrote: >> > On 10/09/12 19:12, Samuraiii wrote: >> >> >> >> Hello, >> >> because I broke me PC and I need to reinstall i

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC : another trap for the unwary

2012-09-10 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 10:47:47AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote > Incidentally, I've found out why the system creates many TTYs : > they're the equivalent of GUI workspaces = desktops, > allowing someone working without X to view different files etc. > I'm continually struck by the genius of those who

Re: [gentoo-user] make.{conf,profile} move to /etc/portage

2012-09-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:20:04 -0400 Doug Hunley wrote: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen > wrote: > > Why not copy them over and create a symlink for "legacy"-reasons? > > I'd guess that every stable version of portage will support it, > > because that change (to the stag

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Reinstall + switch to KDE

2012-09-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:53:41 -0400 Andrey Moshbear wrote: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Nikos Chantziaras > wrote: > > On 10/09/12 19:12, Samuraiii wrote: > >> > >> Hello, > >> because I broke me PC and I need to reinstall it I'm going ask what > >> should I preserve to make install faster

Re: [gentoo-user] Heads-up; bash now uses "readline" USE flag

2012-09-10 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 08:41:36AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote > On Sat, 8 Sep 2012 23:42:45 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > > Isn't readline enabled by default on all reasonable profiles? Do > > > you have USE="-* in make.conf? If so, it's just bitten you. > > > > Yup. I did that to avoid fu

[gentoo-user] Re: Reinstall + switch to KDE

2012-09-10 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 10/09/12 19:53, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 10/09/12 19:12, Samuraiii wrote: Hello, because I broke me PC and I need to reinstall it I'm going ask what should I preserve to make install faster: So what *is* broken? The hardware?

Re: [gentoo-user] Having the possibility to set the system-wide locale settings

2012-09-10 Thread Chris Stankevitz
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joshua Murphy wrote: > A 'locale' is a collection of character set, language, date/time > format, currency format, etc Josh, Thank you. I now understand what a "locale" is. It is surprising to me that the string "en_US.UTF8" tells the OS about currency, date/ti

Re: [gentoo-user] make.{conf,profile} move to /etc/portage

2012-09-10 Thread Doug Hunley
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: > Why not copy them over and create a symlink for "legacy"-reasons? I'd > guess that every stable version of portage will support it, because > that change (to the stage 3) wouldn't make sense otherwise. I did that a long time ago, a

Re: [gentoo-user] Having the possibility to set the system-wide locale settings

2012-09-10 Thread Chris Stankevitz
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Dale wrote: > LANG="en_US.UTF8" > LC_ALL="en_US.UTF8" Dale, Thank you, I used the same. > P. S. Welcome to Gentoo and the world of constantly learning. Just > when you learn something, something changes and you get to learn it all > over again. :/ :) Chris

Re: [gentoo-user] stage3/handbook mismatch

2012-09-10 Thread Chris Stankevitz
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > That's a very new change just announced globally today and only for > new installs. Take a look at eselect news for more info. What a coincidence! I went with the older stage3 approach. Thank you, Chris

Re: [gentoo-user] Pacific vs Pacific-New

2012-09-10 Thread Chris Stankevitz
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > I use America/Los-Angeles myself. Mark, Paul: Thank you, I went with America/Los_Angeles Chris

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Reinstall + switch to KDE

2012-09-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag, 10. September 2012, 12:53:41 schrieb Andrey Moshbear: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > On 10/09/12 19:12, Samuraiii wrote: > >> Hello, > >> because I broke me PC and I need to reinstall it I'm going ask what > > > >> should I preserve to make install fa

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Reinstall + switch to KDE

2012-09-10 Thread Andrey Moshbear
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 10/09/12 19:12, Samuraiii wrote: >> >> Hello, >> because I broke me PC and I need to reinstall it I'm going ask what >> should I preserve to make install faster: > > So what *is* broken? The hardware? If you have a new PC, you simpl

[gentoo-user] Re: Reinstall + switch to KDE

2012-09-10 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 10/09/12 19:12, Samuraiii wrote: Hello, because I broke me PC and I need to reinstall it I'm going ask what should I preserve to make install faster: 1. I presume that /home can be left intact. 2. I plan to backup /etc and after reinstall I'm going to "diff" /etc.old with /etc to see what cha

Re: [gentoo-user] emergefied message bubble... ;)

2012-09-10 Thread Andrey Moshbear
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:36 PM, wrote: > > The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied: > dvdnav? ( dvd ) It means the following: If USE flag "dvdnav" is enabled, then "dvd" must be, too. Essentially, it enforces a dependency of certain USE flags for sanity reasons.

[gentoo-user] emergefied message bubble... ;)

2012-09-10 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, I dont understand this output of emerge: The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied: dvdnav? ( dvd ) The above constraints are a subset of the following complete expression: bindist? ( !win32codecs ) cdio? ( !cdparanoia ) cddb? ( any-of ( cdio cdparanoia ) net

[gentoo-user] Reinstall + switch to KDE

2012-09-10 Thread Samuraiii
Hello, because I broke me PC and I need to reinstall it I'm going ask what should I preserve to make install faster: 1. I presume that /home can be left intact. 2. I plan to backup /etc and after reinstall I'm going to "diff" /etc.old with /etc to see what changed and to keep my previous changes i

Re: [gentoo-user] Heads-up; bash now uses "readline" USE flag

2012-09-10 Thread Willie WY Wong
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 12:00:15PM +0200, Penguin Lover Alan McKinnon squawked: > Or, when previewing what > emerge world wants to do, note that a new flag is enabled, remove it > yourself and let emerge world proceed when you are happy with it. s/remove/add and your advice works equally well fo

Re: [gentoo-user] make.{conf,profile} move to /etc/portage

2012-09-10 Thread Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10.09.2012 13:59, Doug Hunley wrote: > Just saw the eselect news item saying make.conf and make.profile > are moving to /etc/portage next week. Unfortunately, there's no > link to a page w/ more info in the news item. Does anyone know what > version

Re: [gentoo-user] Pacific vs Pacific-New

2012-09-10 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Hello, > > Following the handbook, I am now setting my timezone. I am in Los Angeles. > > Should I select: > a) /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Pacific > b) /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Pacific-New > c) [your answer here] > > "man Pacific" didn't help.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: aligning SSD partitions

2012-09-10 Thread Dale
Michael Mol wrote: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Dale > wrote: > > Michael Mol wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Dale > > wrote: >> >> Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: >> > The 07/09/12, Dale wrote: >>

Re: [gentoo-user] make.{conf,profile} move to /etc/portage

2012-09-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 06:43:12 -0700 Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Neil Bothwick > wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 07:59:41 -0400, Doug Hunley wrote: > > > >> Just saw the eselect news item saying make.conf and make.profile > >> are moving to /etc/portage next week. Unfortun

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: aligning SSD partitions

2012-09-10 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Dale wrote: > Michael Mol wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Dale wrote: > >> Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: >> > The 07/09/12, Dale wrote: >> > >> >> The thing is tho, whether it is using the memory as cache or using it >> >> as >> >> tmpfs, it is the same m

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: aligning SSD partitions

2012-09-10 Thread Dale
Michael Mol wrote: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Dale > wrote: > > Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > > The 07/09/12, Dale wrote: > > > >> The thing is tho, whether it is using the memory as cache or > using it > >> as > >> tmpfs, it is the same

Re: [gentoo-user] make.{conf,profile} move to /etc/portage

2012-09-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 07:59:41 -0400, Doug Hunley wrote: > >> Just saw the eselect news item saying make.conf and make.profile are >> moving to /etc/portage next week. Unfortunately, there's no link to a >> page w/ more info in the news item. D

Re: [gentoo-user] make.{conf,profile} move to /etc/portage

2012-09-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 07:59:41 -0400, Doug Hunley wrote: > Just saw the eselect news item saying make.conf and make.profile are > moving to /etc/portage next week. Unfortunately, there's no link to a > page w/ more info in the news item. Does anyone know what version of > portage knows to look for t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: aligning SSD partitions

2012-09-10 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Dale wrote: > Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > > The 07/09/12, Dale wrote: > > > >> The thing is tho, whether it is using the memory as cache or using it > >> as > >> tmpfs, it is the same memory. There is no difference. That's the > >> whole > >> point. > > Feel free

Re: [gentoo-user] make.{conf,profile} move to /etc/portage

2012-09-10 Thread lists
Zac wrote on gentoo-dev: >> Current portage supports it? Or is their a new version coming which I >> would need? > >It's been supported in stable portage since portage-2.1.9.24 stabilized >in November/December 2010: > >https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346819 >http://git.overlays.gentoo.or

[gentoo-user] make.{conf,profile} move to /etc/portage

2012-09-10 Thread Doug Hunley
Just saw the eselect news item saying make.conf and make.profile are moving to /etc/portage next week. Unfortunately, there's no link to a page w/ more info in the news item. Does anyone know what version of portage knows to look for them in this location? I don't want to move mine prematurely :)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: aligning SSD partitions

2012-09-10 Thread Dale
Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > The 07/09/12, Dale wrote: > >> The thing is tho, whether it is using the memory as cache or using it >> as >> tmpfs, it is the same memory. There is no difference. That's the >> whole >> point. > Feel free to take your own assumptions as undeniable truth. The way the >

[gentoo-user] Re: aligning SSD partitions

2012-09-10 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 07/09/12, Dale wrote: > The thing is tho, whether it is using the memory as cache or using it > as > tmpfs, it is the same memory. There is no difference. That's the > whole > point. Feel free to take your own assumptions as undeniable truth. The way the kernel work with memory is the key,

Re: [gentoo-user] stage3/handbook mismatch

2012-09-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 18:05:03 -0700 Chris Stankevitz wrote: > FYI, > > stage3-amd64-20120621.tar.bz2 creates a file /etc/make.conf > > handbook says to edit to /etc/portage/make.conf > > Chris > Either one will work. The software looks in both locations. You will not notice a difference.