I would be carefull on the "any helmet sold in US" statement. Just think there
are snowmobile helmets out there that are not used on the street.
My .02.
Grant Gall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Gil Hillman wrote:
Is there such a thing as a Snell approved helmet that isn't
Grant:
I think if you read carefully what Phil wrote, you would agree that his "any
helmet" is inside a paragraph referring to motorcycle helmets. Also, since
we are referring to motorcycle helmets in the entire discussion it seems to
me that the "any helmet" reference automatically includes
You don't need to switch Henry, your email is nice and legible :)
"Henry S. Winokur" wrote:
Pegasus may be good for you, but I'm not inclined to use any email client
(I've been there,done that hated it) that doesn't do what Outlook does for
me (keeps my contact list, emailer, calendar, and
eye-popping-neon-racing graffiti on my head!
The nice thing about neon anything is higher visibility. That's one reason
I chose a helmet that had bright neon colors! HIGHER VISIBILITY.
Regards,
Henry S. Winokur
94 GTS1000, AMA, MRF, MD/MSF Certified Instructor
West Bethesda, MD
Granted, the risk is slight, as the officer would have to closely inspect
the helmet and know what to look for. In the real world, odds of this
happening are slim.
Cops are not stupid, generally. Around here, in Montgomery Co. MD at least,
they have to have a college education.
They look
Just get some small Avery circular stickers and print D.O.T. on them
with your PC and put one one the outside of the helmet and one inside on
the shell.
Like a cop is really gonna know if its real or not :)
Hugh
Hugh, you need to talk to an officer in your jurisdiction. I'll go out on a
Henry,
Here in South Florida, most of em can't even spell. :)
Besides I only wear Arai, my suggestion was for those that wanted to
wear European lids with no D.O.T. approval.
Hugh
"Henry S. Winokur" wrote:
Just get some small Avery circular stickers and print D.O.T. on them
with your PC
I forgot to add that the State of Florida in a moment of infinite wisdom
repealed the helmet law back in July. So now we have the Darwinian
process in full effect down here :)
"Henry S. Winokur" wrote:
Hugh, you need to talk to an officer in your jurisdiction. I'll go out on a
limb and bet
motorcycles since I was 9, and have been an avid and careful reader of
motorcycle magazines and especially their helmet articles since about
Chase
Perhaps you've been a careful reader of bike mags, but you've apparently
missed the discussion here on HTML. Some folks on this list respond
I forgot to add that the State of Florida in a moment of infinite wisdom
repealed the helmet law back in July. So now we have the Darwinian
process in full effect down here :)
The only problem with the Darwinian Process, is that it is so slow.
:)
Regards,
Henry S. Winokur
94 GTS1000, AMA,
I must have missed that discussion about HTML email during my recent
absence.
I've never heard of a server that won't allow plain text email to be
sent but only HTML.
I was under the impression that the format of the email was up to the
client.
And, from what I can see by looking at the headers
true Henry but there are two annual "acceleration periods" in the
process.
1)Bike Week
2)Biketoberfest
:)
Hugh
"Henry S. Winokur" wrote:
The only problem with the Darwinian Process, is that it is so slow.
:)
Regards,
Henry S. Winokur
94 GTS1000, AMA, MRF, MD/MSF Certified Instructor
I've never heard of a server that won't allow plain text email to be
sent but only HTML.
Jon Crisler, and others have to go thru Exchange Servers (I don't), and I
think that is where the problem lies.
I've recommended in the past and still do that people use Pegasus Mail
which is freeware
The problem with the Darwin factor is that it doesn't make any difference
with a helmet. Considering all those that die with one on.
What do you call that? No helmet ever prevented a crash nor do any
helmet manufactures claim it will save you. In fact every helmet I've had
there was
On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Gil Hillman wrote:
Is there such a thing as a Snell approved helmet that isn't DOT approved? I
don't think so; I don't think the helmet can be sold as a motorcycle helmet
if it isn't DOT approved. So this isn't an either-or, it's a one-or-both,
and "both" surely
This is true. In all helmet law states, DOT approval is required for sale.
The only non-DOT helmets are cheapies, usually bought by people trying to
skirt the law who have heads that aren't worth protecting anyway.
DOT requirements are very minimal. Snell standards are pretty tough.
There
emergency room visit 1000usd
cat scan of the head without contrast 1200usd
cat scan of the head with contrast 1800usd
stitches of the cut on your head by a plastic surgeon 2200usd
(ONLY THE BEST FOR YOU)
falling of the bike on your driveway without a helmet, PRICELESS
Raul R Gracie
93 GTS
Those across the big pond(s)--can you buy a helmet outside the U.S.
without a DOT sticker on it?
Well, here in Spain you can, for sure. Being able to legally use it on a
motorcycle is completely different...
Funny, what you can't buy is a nice, elegant full facer in one or two colors
besides
orld, odds of this
happening are slim.
-Original Message-
From: Roger Van Santen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 3:57 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: Helmets
Actually, I just purchased a Schuberth Concept helmet. This is the company
that makes the BMW Sys
Just get some small Avery circular stickers and print D.O.T. on them
with your PC and put one one the outside of the helmet and one inside on
the shell.
Like a cop is really gonna know if its real or not :)
Hugh
"Crisler, Jon" wrote:
So Roger, if your state, or a state you ride in, has a
All,
I must say I do agree with this author. As a dutch cop, I've seen my share
of road accidents and I'm sure I'd have seen an lot more dead people if the
government didn't make them wear helmets.
MB
- Original Message -
From: k9kiko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list
The government does good things and bad things. Requiring that everyone
have special insurance for any activity that they do, makes no sense.
It makes a lot of sense if you are an insurance company and you have the
lobbying power to get politicians to see things your way! They very much
know
Just think of it as the gene pool taking care of itself :)
I actually get a good laugh when I hear a story like this.
On 12 Jun 2000, at 21:41, SHAWN PEARSALL wrote:
I know I'm opening up a Pandora's box here folks...fact of the matter is I
don't give crap after my technician had the
I disagree and side with the AMA in saying everyone
should be allowed to be
stupid if they are only injuring themselves.
I'm throwing in with Louis on this one. The insurance
thing is a slippery slope down which we do not want to
Me too.
Motorcyclists should no more be expected to
re-read what you quoted.
How about this: a helmet may save as many stupid riders (squid boy flip his
GS1100) from dying as they do save inteligent riders from becoming
vegetables.
This was my interpretation anyway.
Louis
What kind of logic is that, Kev? So all those riders saved from
--- "Loss, Joe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What kind of logic is that, Kev? So all those riders
saved from becoming
veggies by their helmets (I count me as one of them)
are not worth saving
because of the burdon of all those that are
consequently saved from death
but become veggies???
The idea of insurance is that we all put in our money and then we all get
to do more or less what we want, knowing that if we have accidents our
medical bills are covered. It doesn't mean that we all have to do the same
things. If we start trying to pick and choose who is covered, the system
I am pro-choice on this issue. I believe we should have the choice to wear a
helmet or not. I do think that it is wise to have minors be forced into
wearing helmets. I hate being legislated to be safe. I do think that the
insurance writers are trying to get the laws written to make accidents
I disagree and side with the AMA in saying everyone should be allowed to be
stupid if they are only injuring themselves. I do not believe that the rider
you speak of cost more to the public than any car accident. I don't believe
that we should have special insurance requirements to ride a
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