Re: LISTCAT/SMS QUESTION

2008-07-31 Thread Scott Barry
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 05:29:27 -0700, willie bunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Thanks to all who responded. The auditor wants to know if the "correct storage group" is being used because he wanted to cross reference with the volume backups. I supplied him with the code (ACS) but it was too "technic

Re: LISTCAT/SMS QUESTION

2008-07-31 Thread willie bunter
Thanks to all who responded. The auditor wants to know if the "correct storage group" is being used because he wanted to cross reference with the volume backups. I supplied him with the code (ACS) but it was too "technical" for him. I manually executed the commands D SMS,VOLUME(XXX) followed by

Re: LISTCAT/SMS QUESTION

2008-07-30 Thread Greg Shirey
I have not used this command, but starting in z/OS 1.7, you can specify SETSMS VOLSELMSG(ON) (with some other parameters) to see detailed volume selection analysis messages in the hardcopy log and joblog. Of course, this is only useful while the data set is being created, not after the fact.

Re: LISTCAT/SMS QUESTION

2008-07-30 Thread Scott Barry
On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:09:59 -0700, willie bunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Good Day To All >  >When I perform a LISTCAT of a specific dsn it does not show the STORAGE GROUP in the SMSDATA field.  The dsn is SMS managed and it is being directed correctly to the proper volume.  I have the auditor

Re: ListCat/SMS question

2008-07-30 Thread Neil Duffee
On 30 Jul 2008 at 14:10, concerning "ListCat/SMS question", Willie Bunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote to IBM-Main: > [snip] LISTCAT [snip] does not show the STORAGE > GROUP in the SMSDATA field. [snip] I have the auditors here and > I need to prove that the corre

Re: LISTCAT/SMS QUESTION

2008-07-30 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>The method in my madness is to somehow get real value out of an audit rather >than just produce a bunch of meaningless reports. Let's face it, coming up with a good answer to a good question is often a good thing for the shop, IMHO. An auditor is not an enforcer. The proper procedure is: 1. S

Re: LISTCAT/SMS QUESTION

2008-07-30 Thread Hal Merritt
List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 2:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: LISTCAT/SMS QUESTION >Exactly. >A more reasonable question: "Prove that critical files are being backed up". More than that. Are they retained f

Re: LISTCAT/SMS QUESTION

2008-07-30 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Exactly. >A more reasonable question: "Prove that critical files are being backed up". More than that. Are they retained for a proper time? Are they available for D/R? Are they secure? Back up is just the first basic item! - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: LISTCAT/SMS QUESTION

2008-07-30 Thread Hal Merritt
Exactly. A more reasonable question: "Prove that critical files are being backed up". -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 1:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: L

Re: LISTCAT/SMS QUESTION

2008-07-30 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>can't imagine how DASD management policies would be of the slightest interest >to an auditor. Backup Retention Off site migration But that's not storage group, that's management class! - Too busy driving to stop for gas! --

Re: LISTCAT/SMS QUESTION

2008-07-30 Thread Hal Merritt
at is meaningless on the mf. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of willie bunter Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 1:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: LISTCAT/SMS QUESTION Good Day To All   When I perform a LISTCAT of a specific

Re: LISTCAT/SMS QUESTION

2008-07-30 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Or show your ACS code to the auditor to show how it gets there. Maybe it's me, but I think: 1. The auditor is being too detailed. 2. The management class of the data is a heck of a lot more important than the storage group. I would prefer all production data be in one storage group, and be mana

Re: LISTCAT/SMS QUESTION

2008-07-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
There are a couple of options. If you have DTS Software's SMSDEBUG you could run the diag and get the info with it. Or if you have QuickRef by Chicago Soft and it is at least 6.6 or above, you can bring up a DASD list which can list by storage goup. Then place the cursor on the DASD volume tha

Re: LISTCAT/SMS QUESTION

2008-07-30 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/30/2008 1:25:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are probably other ways to show that a volume is part of a storage group. >> Think it was Linea Nichols posted a simple SAS pgm to summarize the DCOLLECT data by groups. It was in Enterprise J

Re: LISTCAT/SMS QUESTION

2008-07-30 Thread John Kington
Willie, The storage group is never included in the listcat output. To prove that a given volser is in a certain storage group: Issue command D SMS,VOL(volser) Use quickref Run idcams dcollect STOG(storagegroup) Show them a report from micsdasd if you have it. Navigate to ISMF panel that lists stora

Re: LISTCAT/SMS QUESTION

2008-07-30 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of willie bunter > > Good Day To All >   > When I perform a LISTCAT of a specific dsn it does not show > the STORAGE GROUP in the SMSDATA field.  The dsn is SMS > managed and it is being directed correctly to the proper

LISTCAT/SMS QUESTION

2008-07-30 Thread willie bunter
Good Day To All   When I perform a LISTCAT of a specific dsn it does not show the STORAGE GROUP in the SMSDATA field.  The dsn is SMS managed and it is being directed correctly to the proper volume.  I have the auditors here and I need to prove that the correct STORAGE GROUP is being flagged.  I