This is one of those ongoing topics that is yielding less and less
further enlightenment. I am reminded of Aquinas's discussion of how
ob Judg[e]ment Day to restore their bodies to exclusive cannibals
properly and equitably. The treatment is lively and intelligent, but
the issues are hard to eng
>On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:03:47 -0500, Larry Burch wrote:
>> >Paul: Thanks for nothing! -- in the "Bcc:" construct. It's perfectly
>> obvious, and was completely overlooked.
>>
>> Is that intended sarcasm? I hope not.
>>
>
>I think he's be
I was referring to the sentence, "For 'Bcc:' put the RCPT-TO in the RFC 821
headers (above 'DATA') and
nothing in the RFC 822 headers (below 'DATA')." I chose to refer to it as a
"construct".
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In <20120615010950.0622af58...@smtp.patriot.net>, on 06/14/2012
at 12:04 PM, "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)"
said:
>To clarify, the SMTP external writer expects an envelope followed
>by the contents. The envelope contains commands defined in RFC
>5321. The contents contains a header defined in RF
In <6481035102506697.wa.m42tomibmmainyahoo@listserv.ua.edu>, on
06/14/2012
at 10:34 AM, Tom Marchant said:
>Does anyone remember what MVS cost on
>group 40 processors in the early to mid-1980's?
You have a problem with an infinite slope?
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In <0327319053108678.wa.lmburchcabq@listserv.ua.edu>, on
06/14/2012
at 11:03 AM, Larry Burch said:
>Paul: Thanks for nothing!
Other than refering to the RCPT TO: in the envelope as a header, Paul
is correct.
>in the "Bcc:" construct
What bcc construct. The bcc tag in the header is used
In <016b01cd49a7$dc7343c0$9559cb40$@mcn.org>, on 06/13/2012
at 02:02 PM, Charles Mills said:
>I hear everyone who is saying "the term 'code point' *really*
>means a bit value with a glyph assigned to it," but that's not
>what the definitions out there say. Wikipedia:
Wiki, while useful, is
In <020b01cd4a32$9d67acd0$d8370670$@mindspring.com>, on 06/14/2012
at 06:35 AM, Lizette Koehler said:
>What specifically are you trying to solve. IBM has SYMUPDTE which
>can dynamically change the IEASYMxx entries (Static Symbols only)
>after an IPL.
The last time I looked you couldn't make
In <8093946202843724.wa.lmburchcabq@listserv.ua.edu>, on
06/13/2012
at 09:17 PM, Larry Burch said:
>Is there any way to specify a carbon-copy option when sending an
>email from MVS? Using IEBGENER with SYSOUT=(B,SMTP); have never
>needed to do a Cc: before today!
To clarify, the SMTP e
In <2080924931383440.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on
06/13/2012
at 07:23 PM, Paul Gilmartin said:
>Oxymoron? Unicode is unicode.
Unicode has gone through at least 5 versions.
>Unicode was designed to avoid the
>babel of code pages.
It has space reserved for private definitions.
Is anyone else severely inconvenienced by the annual expiration of the
SMPE Certificate:
GIM69221WCERTIFICATE SMPE Client Certificate WILL EXPIRE WITHIN 16
DAYS.
One year is just long enough for me to forget completely how to do it. I
have go doc diving yet again. The renewal process is
Our operators never 'change IPL address'. They select the appropriate LOAD
profile on the HMC before IPL. We don't find it necessary on a regular
basis, but each LOAD profile can contain a unique LOADPARM value where the
specified LOADxx suffix points to a unique IPLPARM member. That way no one
Mazel tov! I've always used FORTGTZONES just because. Never dreamed of
possible problems in omitting it. The idea of trying to give you
'everything' for an empty zone seems wickedly bizarre, but you have to
play the same game as your opponent. Er, benefactor.
.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
SCE Infrastru
I can think of something, but it seems strange to me (I work at a small shop).
Imagine a "sandbox" system. This is a specific version and maintenance level of
z/OS. So I want to only use up one set of RES volumes for different "images".
However, via the IEASYMnn, I set things up to properly emul
Color me confused. Using different IEASYMxx members with different systems
should be easier than trying to use the same system with different members.
Aren't the two systems on different packs? Don't you have to change
the IPL address when you change systems? If so, why not change the LOAD
Dear Kurt,
good news, the FORTGTZONES parameter solved the problem. I didn't use it
first, because there is only one target zone existing. But in some way,
similar to what is described in APAR IO04020 there must be some more
other FMIDs in GLOBAL, I didn't check for the details yet. So because
On 14 Jun 2012 12:49:54 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
>Dave,
>
>You asked what should be done if you were using SyncSort. I would recommend
>that you set the DYNALLOC to 64. SyncSort will not allocate that many SORTWKs
>unless it actually needs them so you don't need to work about
At 11:44 +0200 on 06/14/2012, Dr. Stephen Fedtke wrote about does
anybody know system abend code 9D5?:
hi all,
we receive the following abend in the context of data space creation,
and we do not find any documentation on that in ibm's literature:
SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE = 9D5
SYSTEM REASON C
This is hard to resolve without knowing where the error is occuring, It
could be something like ICE083A at the very beginning or it could be
running a while and getting ICE046A. If you can get the sysout or at least
some of the messages, that would help. For now I have a few
recommendaitons.
1.
> 1. Does an SRB have the same WEB for the entirety of its existence
>(that is, across suspension, pauses, interruptions)?
Yes
> 2. Does a task have the same WEB for the entirety of its existence?
Yes
> 3. Is it possible for a WEB to reside in private storage?
No
> 4. Are there any
Dave,
You asked what should be done if you were using SyncSort. I would recommend
that you set the DYNALLOC to 64. SyncSort will not allocate that many SORTWKs
unless it actually needs them so you don't need to work about using space you
will not need. I would also recommend that you pass VS
The error messages are crucial for this kind of problem. We had a case
recently of a (DF)SORT job failing on an unusually large number of
records. The error message contained a reference to '64K', which turned
out to be the maximum number of tracks in a conventional data set. DFSORT
assumes whe
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> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 2:41 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: PDSE and DFDSS
>
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:54:18 -0500, McKown, John wrote:
>
>
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:54:18 -0500, McKown, John wrote:
>Just to irritate a few people here . Too bad SMP/E does not support a
>UNIX subdirectory as an SMPPTS repository.
>
Why aren't such large SYMODs packaged in RELFILE format
rather than with inline elements? That would enormously
relieve th
This is for a friend at another installation. I Sync rather than DF, so I'm not
the best to answer the question. I have already asked for the error message
detail :) I've also said to not use the FILSZ parm and let DFSORT figure it out.
I am having trouble getting dfsort to sort 180,000,000 reco
Paul: You asked, "Is that intended sarcasm?" My answer: Not just "no", but
*heaven's* no! I was responding to "For 'Bcc:' ... and nothing in the RFC 822
headers (below "DATA")." That -- the word "nothing" in your statement -- was
the "nothing" that I was thanking you for.
I recognized tha
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:03:47 -0500, Larry Burch wrote:
> >Paul: Thanks for nothing! -- in the "Bcc:" construct. It's perfectly
> obvious, and was completely overlooked.
>
> Is that intended sarcasm? I hope not.
>
I think he's being funn
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:54:18 -0500, McKown, John
wrote:
> Too bad SMP/E does not support a UNIX subdirectory as an SMPPTS repository.
>
Be careful what you wish for. :-)
Actually other than performance - which may (or may not) only be noticeably
worse on
more "SMPPTS intensive" func
All:
Check this out, boy this looks vaguely familiar like CICS or DB2 ..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hadoop_1.png
Scott J Ford
Software Engineer
http://www.identityforge.com
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Just to irritate a few people here . Too bad SMP/E does not support a
UNIX subdirectory as an SMPPTS repository.
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1. Does an SRB have the same WEB for the entirety of its existence
(that is, across suspension, pauses, interruptions)?
2. Does a task have the same WEB for the entirety of its existence?
3. Is it possible for a WEB to reside in private storage?
4. Are there any plans to change the answers to
>From the product manager:
It's MENU.ADMIN (with the "I"). The doc fix is already in the queue for this
Bob Shannon
Rocket Software
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Of Robert S. Hansel (RSH)
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:03:47 -0500, Larry Burch wrote:
>Paul: Thanks for nothing! -- in the "Bcc:" construct. It's perfectly
>obvious, and was completely overlooked.
>
Is that intended sarcasm? I hope not.
-- gil
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:15:06 +0200, R.S. wrote:
>
>BTW: I really don't like SMPPTS. This is cumbersome, especially with
>pseudo-conctatenations (SMPPTS, SMPPTS1, ...oops! I forgot to define
>one of them in some zone...).
>
Sigh. The family of problems:
o Limited number of tracks in a PDS
o Lim
Paul: Thanks for nothing! -- in the "Bcc:" construct. It's perfectly obvious,
and was completely overlooked.
burch
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I am out of the office until 12/31/2013.
I retired from IBM on 05/31/2012. If you need help with DFSORT, you can
send an e-mail to dfs...@us.ibm.com
Note: This is an automated response to your message "Change IEASYMxx via
opartor prompt" sent on 06/14/2012 5:07:54.
This is the only notificati
Depending on the actual need (and the level of training is not provided in
the thread),
there are a number of IBM Redbooks that might be a good start for the
basics. There are also
some Share sessions from years gone by that might be able to help, too.
Check in the archives.
-Original Message
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:25:36 +0800, Timothy Sipples wrote:
>1. Mainframe-only chargeback regimes are deadly.
I agree. On 6 May 1999, when I was working for Wayne State
University, I posted on IBM-Main,
We no longer charge for CPU time. When we upgraded from our 360-67 to
an Amdahl 470V/6, we
One of the pains of using MIPS is that it is based on the CPU then
being used.
When you swap out a system then a new number has to be devised(won't
go into the issue with MIPS).
The problem comes in when you try and do trending the curve gets to
be a PITA to use.
Ed
On Jun 14, 2012, at 1:
Timothy:
Right you are. We did charge back. We were basically trying to do it
by division.
Every year we would send out a final bill and the divisions grumbled
but paid.
What we did not notice was that the total was off by 30 percent (not
charging enough).
One of our people finally found i
On 6/13/2012 3:55 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In
,
on 06/13/2012
at 07:09 PM, saurabh khandelwal
said:
I am looking for classroom/Virtual/Online Parallel Sysplex training.
Please help me if you have any idea on this.
Steve Comstock offers a number of courses.
I don't know what h
I am out of the office until 06/25/2012.
If your request requires immediate attention please contact the
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Hi
Thank you for all.
On 14.06.2012 16:25, Lizette Koehler wrote:
There is no prompt for IEASYMxx at IPL time. The only way to change it is
in the LOADxx member through the HMC. That is because some of the
information is needed during the load process.
Lizette
Hello Amit,
Thanks for reply. I tried contacting Maintec, RPS,
Maple for parallel sysplex training. But no body is able to do it. Also
contacted IBM training dept, but they don't have any public batches
schedule as of now.
Regards
Saurabh
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 7:46 PM, ami
In
,
on 06/13/2012
at 07:09 PM, saurabh khandelwal
said:
>I am looking for classroom/Virtual/Online Parallel Sysplex training.
>Please help me if you have any idea on this.
Steve Comstock offers a number of courses.
I don't know what his fee structure is, but you might contact him
offline.
There is no prompt for IEASYMxx at IPL time. The only way to change it is
in the LOADxx member through the HMC. That is because some of the
information is needed during the load process.
Lizette
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... AFAIK using parameters like
FORFMID or EXCLUDE etc. will not help, because I think they are
recognized after the package is transfered on the client side, what is
too late here.
Correct. FORTGTZONES however can be used to limit the scope of the
order, but this is only helpful if you have s
There is an instructor-led, web-accessed course from Verhoef Training on
Parallel Sysplex Fundementals and Implementataion.
http://www.verhoef-training.com/courses/MPSF1.html
Thanks
Bill Bishop
Specialist
Mainframe Support Group
Server Development & Support
Toyota Motor Engineering & Manufactu
hi Saurabh,
couple of thoughts, you do have IBM partner training in India. they do it
sometimes through their systems university initiative across india. you
could also try your organization channel partners with IBM india, who coudl
get you the right sessions and timelines with locations as they
This is what we had when we converted from 1.12 to 1.13;
LOAD1C and new LOAD1D
Each contains a section for the specific LPAR, ie. Catalog name and unique
PARMLIB datasets - AFTER the global, shared parmlib datasets.
In the LOAD1C (1.12) we coded IEASYM 1C and in LOAD1D we coded IEASYM 1D
In th
W dniu 2012-06-14 14:13, Thomas Conley pisze:
On 6/13/2012 12:54 PM, Richards, Robert B. wrote:
Either:
1) Open a SR. I had a latch issue and LVL2 provided me with a SLIP.
Contention was with DFHSM. It was diagnosed to be a timing issue and
they are working on a fix.
2) Try IEBCOPY to a pre-al
On 14.06.2012 16:02, R.S. wrote:
W dniu 2012-06-14 15:49, Miklos Szigetvari pisze:
Hi
I would like to use at one IPL IEASYMxx and IEASYMyy at the next ,
without changing the LOAD member.
I thought I could say SYM=xx or SYM=yy, but it is not the case.
(Swapping LPAR's)
1. You can have sections
Hello,
I tried calling mentor service and other suggested training
institute, but no body is ready for training individual person.
Can you please help me finding out any other institute, who can do
for individual person.
Regards
Saurabh
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:55 PM, saur
Apology to Mr. Metz.
Sincerely,
Marshall
Marshall Chamberlain authors the Ancestor Series of adventure-thrillers and
other mystery-thrillers. Synopses and sample chapters of his books are
available at gracepublishing.org. E-books can be purchased at many e-book
websites and at Smashwords.com. Har
We intend to swap the systems between two LPAR's.
Till now LPAR1 was z/OS 1.12 and LPAR2 was z/OS 1.13
Now we would like to change
On 14.06.2012 15:59, Lizette Koehler wrote:
I would like to use at one IPL IEASYMxx and IEASYMyy at the next ,
without changing
the LOAD member.
I thought I could
You don't have to change the same LOAD member, you can have two LOAD
members with different IEASYM members and change load parameter at IPL.
Or if you prefer, as Kees says, make different sections with HWAREname &
LPARname as defined in HCD in the same IEASYM member.
2012/6/14 Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
W dniu 2012-06-14 15:49, Miklos Szigetvari pisze:
Hi
I would like to use at one IPL IEASYMxx and IEASYMyy at the next ,
without changing the LOAD member.
I thought I could say SYM=xx or SYM=yy, but it is not the case.
(Swapping LPAR's)
1. You can have sections in both LOADxx and IEASYMxx membe
l...@garlic.com (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) writes:
> Total cost has been taken to extreme in modern mega-datacenters ... with
> hundreds of thousands or even millions of processors. cost of machines
> have dropped so low that electricity and cooling have started to become
> dominate costs. mega-datacent
> I would like to use at one IPL IEASYMxx and IEASYMyy at the next ,
without changing
> the LOAD member.
> I thought I could say SYM=xx or SYM=yy, but it is not the case.
> (Swapping LPAR's)
>
> On 14.06.2012 15:35, Lizette Koehler wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> Is it possible to change IEASYMxx via op
If using one IEASYM member on different LPARs is the question:
You can make different sections in IEASYM, depending on LPARname and
HWAREname as defined in the HCD.
Effectively each LPAR you has its own IEASYM member(section).
Will this do?
Kees.
"Miklos Szigetvari" wrote in
message news:<4fd9e
> >
> >So again my question is, is it possible to identify the very large PTFs
> >somewhere to order them seperately?
> >
>
> No. But "The Usual Suspects" are Java, Java & Java (HJV(A/B)500,
HJV(A/B)60(0/1) &
> HJV(A/B)700.
>
And I would include Websphere/MQ in this list as well.
Are you doing
Hi
I would like to use at one IPL IEASYMxx and IEASYMyy at the next ,
without changing the LOAD member.
I thought I could say SYM=xx or SYM=yy, but it is not the case.
(Swapping LPAR's)
On 14.06.2012 15:35, Lizette Koehler wrote:
Hi
Is it possible to change IEASYMxx via operator reply at I
>
> Hi
>
> Is it possible to change IEASYMxx via operator reply at IPL ?
What specifically are you trying to solve. IBM has SYMUPDTE which can
dynamically change the IEASYMxx entries (Static Symbols only) after an IPL.
Obj Deck for this is in SYS1.SAMPLIB.
If you need more details on SYMUJPDTE
I was going to mention this but decided to keep my reply simple.
Yes, if the input contains an EBCDIC SUB (3F) the "at least one SUB output"
flag is still set. I think you could argue either way whether it should be
set in that case. The flag is documented as
CUNBCPRM_Substitution
Indicates to th
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:44:10 +0200, Dr. Stephen Fedtke wrote:
>we do not find any documentation on that in ibm's literature:
It is not an IBM abend code. What is SVC 213 on your system?
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If you know it is a dataspace creation, could you post the source code that
you believe got this error?
Thanks
Lizette
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> Alvaro Guirao Lopez
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 2:50 AM
>
timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com (Timothy Sipples) writes:
> 2. Average costs versus marginal costs. If you simply take the total
> expense and divide that up into chargebacks, you've got a problem. That'll
> cause very bad behavior as users try to flee what they see as high costs
> (average costs) which
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:46:52 +0530, Jake anderson wrote:
>We have IEFACTRT exit routine installed in our shop which shows the Job
>condition code and the CPU value.
Ok, that shows the amount of CPU time that the the job required.
>Here one of our Application developer is
>interested to know the
On 6/13/2012 12:54 PM, Richards, Robert B. wrote:
Either:
1) Open a SR. I had a latch issue and LVL2 provided me with a SLIP. Contention
was with DFHSM. It was diagnosed to be a timing issue and they are working on a
fix.
2) Try IEBCOPY to a pre-allocated dataset.
Bob
Or don't use PDSE an
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