machine without a mouse.
It’s all attitude.
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On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Tuesday, 29 March 2016 6:55 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone else disappointed with the "big" apple event
As
Sent: Tuesday, 29 March 2016 5:00 AM
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Android has made improvements but it’s definitely not there. Then again that
makes me a bad person for saying that especially on the eyes free list.:)
As much as I think iOS is on the whole superior to android, especially for
blind users, it is nonetheless true that android has a huge share of the phone
market worldwide. Therefore, I am not sure that your sample of two tells us
much of anything. Surely, in all those places where they have all
Hello.
Today, I was leaving London after seeing my mother. Although she is asian and
can’t use computers or phones, someone had bought her an Android phone which
she had not mastered. Lots of people have shown her how to use it but she
can’t do it. So she begged me not to sell my I phone six
Android has made improvements but it’s definitely not there. Then again that
makes me a bad person for saying that especially on the eyes free list.:) I’m
a user of both, both have their place but for real work it’s IOS for me hands
down, at least so far. I like you will not stick with Apple
Quite right: stability is king. I can count on my two hands the number of
features since, say, iOS 6 or OS X Snow Leopard that are actually relevant and
necessary and that could have been engineered to perfection by now. The rest
of it is so much trash. Sadly, yeah, Apple is always about “Pus
Compared with android it also works. Android is a train wreck when it comes to
accessibility. Tell me what good is an operating system with accessibility
features where the web is useless?
Features are good, I’d rather have my features work. Apple n needs to stick to
the just works attitude
Hello,
Another way of looking at it is that our behaviour in our choices. Are what
Apple are responding to in the products that they offer. Many of these messages
on these lists state that they are sent from an iPhone or such other mobile
device. We just don’t want to go into our offices and si
That would be the same Steve Jobs who brought us mobile me and antenna gate? No
one is perfect. You can't live in the past. And compared with android, it's
still way simpler.
Mary
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 26, 2016, at 9:35 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
>
> With the intro of another iPad Pro and
With the intro of another iPad Pro and re-intro of 4" iPhone SE. This was
in addition to the other hardware SKUs that seem to be added with each
hardware intro event.
This is almost dé·jà vu of when Pepsi CEO had every pro/consumer hardware
SKUs under the planet that utterly confused and overhwelm
Not sure I would call it a Mac issue. The rate of growth of Mac sales
have slowed from last year in Q4 (2.8% up) but that's better than the
overall PC market which shrank (8.3% down). Might just be an indication
of overall market trends. That said, PCs (in the generic sense) tend to
be more dur
I’d watch it. The bits you’re interested in are at the start, where Apple talk
about recycling, and the end, where Apple proclaim that it’s “Really sad” that
people are using PCs that are five years old.
Me? Cynical? Never! :)
I think the Mac is dead, anyway. Well, if you disagree, cool bea
6-8010 Extension 401.
- Original Message -
From: Ryan Mann
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: Anyone else disappointed with the "big" apple event
If that's what this person is saying, it is not accurate. Windows is s
h 23, 2016 6:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Anyone else disappointed with the "big" apple event
>
> Hello,
>
> No there’s no new watch. The Mac isn’t dead it’s the Windows desktop machine
> that is dead.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gena
>
>> On 23 Mar 2016, at 21:31,
List
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 6:08 PM
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Hello,
No there’s no new watch. The Mac isn’t dead it’s the Windows desktop machine
that is dead.
Regards,
Gena
On 23 Mar 2016, at 21:31, Kawal G
Hello,
No there’s no new watch. The Mac isn’t dead it’s the Windows desktop machine
that is dead.
Regards,
Gena
> On 23 Mar 2016, at 21:31, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>
> I haven’t heard the event yet. Is there a new watch coming out yet?
>> On 23 Mar 2016, at 18:47, Sabahattin Gucukoglu >
aries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone else disappointed with the "big" apple event
Simon, why don’t you run a Unix variant on your servers and just be done with
it. Much greater stability, great remote access and to say it’s tested and
true for decades is an understatement.
OSX server is j
Yeah, OS X Server is lots of fun from the command line, although I’d take Linux
for that since you still can’t update it without control over the GUI. The
server package does include more than the front-facing app from the Mac App
Store, though; some of the pieces of the server like the databas
Good question. Software-wise, short-term I’m thinking Windows with Linux as a
VM guest. This gets you an accessible app ecosystem but you don’t have to lose
access to a productive working environment like the Unix CLI. I’d pick Windows
8.1 plus Classic Shell because I know it works, and will
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone else disappointed with the "big" apple event
It’s really not in apple’s culture to listen to consumers. Remember their
attitude is they come up with great products we can’t live with out.:)
Remember the antenna issue. It wasn’t
So let me ask you since I have no idea the answer to this. If the Mac goes
away and I agree with you that’s pretty likely. What kind of laptop / desktop
should I be using? Am I to go to Linux? What about on the hardware side?
What do you think your moves will be. I value your opinion so wou
Yeah. I’ve been a pretty consistent Apple advocate since about 2007 with the
Mac. Back then there was a lot to write home about. Now I’m just not sure.
The change is palpable. I wasn’t totally behind Steve the autocratic
ringmaster but at least he had the good sense to put the consumers fir
server.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Thursday, 24 March 2016 1:32 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Anyone else disappointed with the "b
I’m surprised about your feelings about the watch but then again that’s exactly
what I thought before I used / owned one. I’m not sure what I would do with it
if it ran separate from the phone. The fact it joins my WiFi and has such good
bluetooth range means I can leave my phone any where in
No, total disappointment, no new watch and no new watch OS. But hey there’s a
new nylon watch band, that’s worth having a press conference right?
> On Mar 23, 2016, at 5:31 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>
> I haven’t heard the event yet. Is there a new watch coming out yet?
>> On 23 Mar 2016, a
Makes me want to short Apple but I know to many who have lost on that bet
before. It is sad but I hope this is something that will change or maybe it’s
just me. This 4 inch phone sounds like it’s going to be a bigger deal and
maybe that’s ok. I just miss the old Apple. Here’s hoping we’re ju
-
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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Thursday, 24 March 2016 1:32 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone else disappointed with the "big" apple event
Well look it’s not entirely Microsoft’s fault.
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Thursday, 24 March 2016 1:22 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone else disappointed with the "big" apple event
You make a good point, I did like Tim Cook’s open
Hello everyone,
My thoughts on the Apple keynote are positive. I like how the CEO did not
spend very much time discussing the company's position concerning the
recent debate over iOS security and the Government of the USA. I like how
his point was clear and succinct. The only thing I was intere
I haven’t heard the event yet. Is there a new watch coming out yet?
> On 23 Mar 2016, at 18:47, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
>
> I was downgrading my main Mac to Yosemite at the time of the event, and had
> to catch up using the Apple Keynotes podcast. There were exactly two things
> I got out
I just took a quick look on the web and did not see any reference to
the iPad Pro replacing the Mac. What Tim Cook may have suggested was
that the new iPad Pro would do in Windows. Sounds like typical
competition to me.
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ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that
Hi!
I totally agree with you.
You know this is just human nature i think. We are borned vain and thats how it
gonna be until judgement day.
/A
> 22 mars 2016 kl. 16:42 skrev Jenine Stanley :
>
> I really think in terms of these presentaitons that we consumers are our own
> worst enemy. We now *e
HI!
I believe the apple car when i see it.
/A
> 22 mars 2016 kl. 16:17 skrev E.T. :
>
> Would the Apple Cart not be blazing new trails? (smiles)
>
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
>
> On 3/22/2
I was downgrading my main Mac to Yosemite at the time of the event, and had to
catch up using the Apple Keynotes podcast. There were exactly two things I got
out of the address:
1. The Mac is dead. The iPad Pro is clearly set to kill it, and Apple wants
to be in the driver’s seat when that h
This gets tricky. Sure consumers can provide lots of useful feedback for
things that should work but have bugs or tweaks to an existing product.
For something revolutionary I won't know I like it until it actually
exists and I can try it. Who knew a touch screen UI could be so useful?
I was ple
nesday, 23 March 2016 7:34 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone else disappointed with the "big" apple event
In all of this I wonder if consumers are not voices what they would like Apple
to develop directly to Apple. How can a product be developed without a demand
It sounds like a lot more people were interested in the 4 inch phone than I
thought.
Not sure it needed a full on event to roll out but maybe Apple will have a hit
on it’s hands based on the response.
> On Mar 23, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>
> Hi!
> The only new thing to me was
Hi!
The only new thing to me was the Iphone SE or what its called.
I always wanted a 4 inch iphone with the same processor as the 6s.
/A
> On 22 Mar 2016, at 13:32, Scott Granados wrote:
>
> Wonder if anyone else felt the way I did. The event seemed to be a total
> waste of time. Watch bands,
ranados
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2016 7:37 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Anyone else disappointed with the "big" apple event
>
> It’s really not in apple’s culture to listen to consumers. Remember their
> attitude is they come up with grea
t;
> Otherwise,
> I've got no concerns for watch straps.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2016 1:33 AM
> To: MacVisionaries 'Chr
The only problem with that is you’re running windows. Nothing turns a brand
new laptop in to last years model faster than installing windows.:)
> On Mar 22, 2016, at 2:59 PM, jeff `greene wrote:
>
> Hi, I too was disappointed! I wanted to see new macbooks! Like the
> article aI saw on digitalt
or us?
They always leave it up to the third parties.
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2016 7:37 AM
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esday, 23 March 2016 7:34 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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In all of this I wonder if consumers are not voices what they would like Apple
to develop directly to Apple. How can a product be developed without a demand?
Vau
: Anyone else disappointed with the "big" apple event
I think people have to put this into perspective. There hasn’t been any
significant innovations by any company that has been earth shattering. I think
there is an expectation that people have that Apple is going to release an
actual ti
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone else disappointed with the "big" apple event
And I love the idea of just having an unlocked phone.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Mar 22, 2016, at 8:36 AM, Scott Davert wrote:
>
> They did announce the smaller iPad and the smaller iPhone
disappointed with the "big" apple event
here is a better question. does this mean no september event since tim said
the next event will be held in their new place in 2017???
> On Mar 22, 2016, at 6:03 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>
> Right or an Apple TV, something, anything, giv
, 23 March 2016 1:59 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone else disappointed with the "big" apple event
There was not anything unexpected. I am interested in the smaller iPad Pro.
However, a big presentation did not seem necessary. And, too many such will
weaken the
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2016 1:33 AM
To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via
Subject: Anyone else disappointed with the "big" apple event
Wonder if anyone else felt the way I did. The event seemed to be a total waste
of time. Watch bands, real
Hi, I too was disappointed! I wanted to see new macbooks! Like the
article aI saw on digitaltrends.com says: apple's macbooks are
dusty,too slow and over priced. Or, something like that. I think Apple
needs to keep up with the pc market which has been shipping skylake
intel laptops since september
It’s really not in apple’s culture to listen to consumers. Remember their
attitude is they come up with great products we can’t live with out.:)
Remember the antenna issue. It wasn’t a flaw in the design it was the user
holding the phone the wrong way according to apple.
You hav ea good poin
In all of this I wonder if consumers are not voices what they would
like Apple to develop directly to Apple. How can a product be
developed without a demand?
Vaughn
On 3/22/16, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
wrote:
> Another perspective is that most people don't know a great thing until
> ther
Another perspective is that most people don't know a great thing until
there are a few years of hindsight. I remember one of my co-workers got
one of the very first iPhones and I couldn't figure out why. It was a
battery hog, heavy and my little folding phone made calls just as well.
Who knew t
We are indeed our own worst enemies. We have such unrealistically
high expectations that we collapse with disappointment when Apple does
not deliver.
My iPhone 5 is over 3 years old. What can a new phone possibly give
me? When the 5 bites the dust then I run down to the store and get a n
The phone definitely carries them, but I think the iPad will sell. Frankly,
though, I don’t know how much more you can do with tablet technology at this
point.
Yeah, all we’re seeing is upgrades to memory and processors at this point.
At least, that’s all I’ve read about. Sometimes, thos
I wasn't too disappointed myself with the event. They delivered the products I
had heard were coming, and yes there was some pomp, but I find that some is
warranted, to acknowledge the teams that worked on said products. The only
thing I see missing from the Jobs days are the "One more thing"seg
They will sell new iPhones, the iPad is arguable at best. Sales have almost
tanked on iPads and let’s face it, the phone carries Apple when you consider
just how much of it’s cash flow is on the phone exclusively.
And you m are good points but I counter with where has been anything in the
last
I think people have to put this into perspective. There hasn’t been any
significant innovations by any company that has been earth shattering. I think
there is an expectation that people have that Apple is going to release an
actual time machine or a version of SIRI that will do your laundry o
I think in many cases large organizations fail do to their own success. They
get to that point where they become so large and so monstrous they just can’t
create any more. IBM is another example. They are doing interesting things
but nothing earth shattering any more and they just aren’t inno
Offline dictation is only available on the 6 and up.
God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh, IOS and Windows Trainer
Canadian Phone: 519-962-9140
U.S. phone: 573-401-1018
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> On Mar 22, 2016, at 13:00, Rod Skene wrote
It works on my iPhone 6s Plus but not my old iPhone 5s. I did not have to
enable anything. After the update, put your phone in airplane mode and find an
edit field To try it out.
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse any errors.
> On Mar 22, 2016, at 11:41 AM, venky...@gmai
I think this seems to be a problem with society in general it's just more
noticeable with Apple because of the number of innovations in the past. But I
don't see how Windows or Android or anything else is really doing anything that
anyone would call progressive. It seems to me we're just stuck i
So I’ll ask, anyone answer this one too, what do you expect from Apple in
future?
What constitutes new and innovative? Maybe it’s something you never even
thought of but once hearing it, *need* it.
I’m just curious as to what you think should be coming from this company?
At what point does
Off-line dictation on the iPhone? I missed it. Does it work on the iPhone 6? Do
I have to enable anything?
Thank you.
Regards,
Venkatesh Potluri
Http://www.venkateshpotluri.me
Sent from my iPhone
> On 22-Mar-2016, at 10:08 PM, Rod Skene wrote:
>
> I liked it. Very impressed with the update to
You make nice points. Yes, Apple seriously need to tone down its spring event
or rather not have it.
Thank you.
Regards,
Venkatesh Potluri
Http://www.venkateshpotluri.me
Sent from my iPhone
> On 22-Mar-2016, at 9:12 PM, Jenine Stanley wrote:
>
> I really think in terms of these presentaitons
I liked it. Very impressed with the update to Apple TV. Folders, dictation,
and Bluetooth keyboard are all very big for me.
I really like the new iPhone. May try to find a way to switch from my 6S plus
to the new smaller four-inch phone.
Finally, off-line dictation on my iPhone is really big fo
Your points would make more sense if we were 2 or 3 years post Steve Jobs but
we’re many years now. My opinion is that Tim Cook may be a very good
operations guy but he’s no innovator nor does he inspire innovation. Steve
Jobs may have been a not in many regards but whether we like it or not t
I really think in terms of these presentaitons that we consumers are our own
worst enemy. We now *expect* big things, in March, in June from WWDC and then
again in September/October.
I’m reeling a bit just thinking about iPhone 7 possibly this fall. I just got a
6s. I know that the new phone p
I seriously hope it does. With companies like tesla braking ground, Apple has
to come up with a very, very! Different and innovative consept.
Thank you.
Regards,
Venkatesh Potluri
Http://www.venkateshpotluri.me
Sent from my iPhone
> On 22-Mar-2016, at 8:47 PM, E.T. wrote:
>
> Would the Apple
I didn’t take time out of my day to monitor the event, but I am kinda glad I
didn’t hold off on buying the Apple Watch back at Christmas, when the
predictions were that a new version would be released this spring.
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Would the Apple Cart not be blazing new trails? (smiles)
From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?
On 3/22/2016 7:23 AM, Rich Ring wrote:
I couldn’t agree more! Apple has set amazing standards, but they are
I couldn’t agree more! Apple has set amazing standards, but they are not
blazing new trails any longer.
> On Mar 22, 2016, at 7:32 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>
> Wonder if anyone else felt the way I did. The event seemed to be a total
> waste of time. Watch bands, really? You wanted time out
I’m very disappointed too.
To start off, there was nothing surprising about the event. everything (the
iPhone, the iPad pro and one of the watch bands) were expected. They announced
“folders” as a new feature in the event… seriously? it would have been ok if
they demoed how entering passwords u
Well remember WWDC they usually have in SF and the iPhone usually gets released
at the Flint Center or museum of fine art.
I was wondering the same thing though, I heard that comment as well.
> On Mar 22, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Basioli George wrote:
>
> here is a better question. does this mean no
I think he was saying it was the last time they would do an event in
that particular space. They can, and probably will, have other events in
other venues. He seemed be waxing nostalgic over the number of major
announcements that had been made there over the years.
CB
On 3/22/16 9:25 AM, Basi
Yep, I'm with you there, Scott. :)
Cheers,
Donna
> On Mar 22, 2016, at 8:36 AM, Scott Davert wrote:
>
> They did announce the smaller iPad and the smaller iPhone. I kind of
> wish I hadn't gotten a 6S, since the se has all the specs of the 6S
> but with no 3D touch, which I almost never use anywa
And I love the idea of just having an unlocked phone.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Mar 22, 2016, at 8:36 AM, Scott Davert wrote:
>
> They did announce the smaller iPad and the smaller iPhone. I kind of
> wish I hadn't gotten a 6S, since the se has all the specs of the 6S
> but with no 3D touch, which I alm
I was very disappointed in the Watch portion of the event. New bands? Wow…
Yeah, someone can buy me the Milanese Loop Space Black for being a decent
person, but … OK, so I did buy one of the new nylon ones but I was hoping for
more detail on Watch OS2.2. OK, so I can pair 2 watches with 1 phone
They did announce the smaller iPad and the smaller iPhone. I kind of
wish I hadn't gotten a 6S, since the se has all the specs of the 6S
but with no 3D touch, which I almost never use anyway.
Scott
On 3/22/16, Basioli George wrote:
> here is a better question. does this mean no september event
here is a better question. does this mean no september event since tim said
the next event will be held in their new place in 2017???
> On Mar 22, 2016, at 6:03 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>
> Right or an Apple TV, something, anything, give me some Apple jar openers,
> Apple socks, something new
Right or an Apple TV, something, anything, give me some Apple jar openers,
Apple socks, something new. The watch is good but you need to give me more
than bands. I like bands but I like new features better.
A self driving car would be fantastic. I like the apple design, the car doesn’t
have w
There was not anything unexpected. I am interested in the smaller iPad Pro.
However, a big presentation did not seem necessary. And, too many such will
weaken the hype for the future.
Now, if Apple were to announce an iPad Pro / MacBook combo device, or a MacBook
with a touch screen, I would be
Wonder if anyone else felt the way I did. The event seemed to be a total waste
of time. Watch bands, really? You wanted time out of my afternoon for watch
bands?
In my professional opinion it was serious weak sauce. Wonder what others
thought, is it just me?
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