Re: [Mageia-dev] [Bug 1793] System tool text needs proofreading

On 15/06/11 01:32, Barry Jackson wrote: > https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1793 > > --- Comment #5 from Barry Jackson 2011-06-15 03:32:08 > CEST --- > Comment on attachment 563 > --> https://bugs.mageia.org/attachment.cgi?id=563 > Patched English strings for Live installer > > -msgid "

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

Am Dienstag, 14. Juni 2011, 19:33:00 schrieb Jehan Pagès: > So basically what people call a "light" rolling release in this thread > is a rolling release where packages are tested and integrated? And > what you call a (non-light) rolling release is a development rolling > release (cooker, cauldron…

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:43:57PM +0200, Samuel Verschelde wrote: Le mardi 14 juin 2011 00:50:48, Michael Scherer a écrit : Or, as a mathematician would say : backport_level(R) = stormi_constant / release_frequency(R) ( please not that you are now half as famous as Planck, Faraday and Boltzma

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > 2011/6/15 Frank Griffin : >> On 06/14/2011 06:40 PM, Dexter Morgan wrote: >>> >>> Do you have gnome-control-center installed >> >> I have the same situation, and gnome-control-center is installed. > > Confirmed, same problem. > > Just swit

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3

On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 03:02:16 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote about Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3: >2011/6/15 Frank Griffin : >> On 06/14/2011 06:40 PM, Dexter Morgan wrote: >>> >>> Do you have gnome-control-center installed >> >> I have the same situation, and gnome-control-center is instal

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3

2011/6/15 Frank Griffin : > On 06/14/2011 06:40 PM, Dexter Morgan wrote: >> >> Do you have gnome-control-center installed > > I have the same situation, and gnome-control-center is installed. Confirmed, same problem. Just switched a Mageia 1 to Cauldron via urpmi, installed task-gnome, no errors.

Re: [Mageia-dev] gmane

2011/6/15 Michael Scherer : > Le mardi 14 juin 2011 à 18:17 +0200, Antoine Pitrou a écrit : >> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:09:23 +0200 >> Wolfgang Bornath >> wrote: >> > >> >  - gmane is clumsy, slow - my tests last September/October reveilled >> > that with an active list you see 2 replies in the list

[Mageia-dev] mesaglut versus freeglut in cauldron

Hi ! Wonderful job done by the team (congratulations) just some problems with some missing rpms in Mageia1 : waiting for a solution to be found to add them (in backports or updates repo?) and it will be perfect ! Talking about future (whatever the release cycle will be) : Just a reminder : O

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release taskcoach-1.2.20-1.mga2

Le mardi 14 juin 2011 à 15:44 +0200, Damien Lallement a écrit : > Le 14/06/2011 15:34, Mageia Team a écrit : > > Name: taskcoachRelocations: (not relocatable) > > Version : 1.2.20Vendor: Mageia.Org > > Release : 1.mga2

Re: [Mageia-dev] gmane

Le mardi 14 juin 2011 à 18:17 +0200, Antoine Pitrou a écrit : > On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:09:23 +0200 > Wolfgang Bornath > wrote: > > > > - gmane is clumsy, slow - my tests last September/October reveilled > > that with an active list you see 2 replies in the list before the > > initial mail is ava

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

Le mardi 14 juin 2011 à 23:20 +0200, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : > Le mardi 14 juin 2011 20:00:39, Anne nicolas a écrit : > > 2011/6/14 Wolfgang Bornath > > > > > 2011/6/14 Anne nicolas : > > > > I guess because of Mandriva policy. We did provide backports but it was > > > > explicitely said to b

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3

On 06/14/2011 06:40 PM, Dexter Morgan wrote: Do you have gnome-control-center installed I have the same situation, and gnome-control-center is installed. I think it's time for you to actually test the reproducible cases we've given you. Unless you have first-hand knowledge that your packages

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

Le mercredi 15 juin 2011 à 03:23 +0900, Jehan Pagès a écrit : > Hi, > I think it is so insane so many distributions are still with an > "update by CD" logics (even though it is partly modernized with > dropping the iso into an usb stick, or even simply mounting it > directly, I think that is still

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

Le mercredi 15 juin 2011 à 02:33 +0900, Jehan Pagès a écrit : > >> And as I said in another mail, if people want to follow arch linux and > >> do a better job, maybe they should start to explain what are the weak > >> points of the distribution and then do proposal on stuff that can be > >> done b

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3

2011/6/9 JA Magallón : > Hi all... > > I have a problem with this first big change in Cauldron... > I have a couple test boxes in which I have updated everything, and I can't > get Gnome 3 to work properly. I suppose it is still work in progress, but as > other people sent messages telling this or

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

2011/6/14 Margot : > > Forums aren't exactly 'modern' - they're just a BBS with added > graphics. You put the whole discussion into the perspective it deserves! Thx for making my day! -- wobo

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME 2.32 borked

Le 10 juin 2011 à 23:21, Christiaan Welvaart a écrit : > On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Daniel Le Berre wrote: > >> Le 10/06/2011 18:05, Frank Griffin a écrit : >>> Just updated and rebooted a system which was last rebooted Jun 7, and >>> both GDM and KDM fail to log into my GNOME DE with a greyish popup

[Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3

Hi all... I have a problem with this first big change in Cauldron... I have a couple test boxes in which I have updated everything, and I can't get Gnome 3 to work properly. I suppose it is still work in progress, but as other people sent messages telling this or that application doesn't work...

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME3 ?

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:09:44 +0200, Damien Lallement wrote: > Le 14/06/2011 16:04, Dexter Morgan a écrit : > > [...] > > do you have the logs from ~/.xsession-errors when the session fails please > > ? > > My session fails each time I try to launch an apps (even > gnome-terminal!). Here is my

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

Le mardi 14 juin 2011 00:50:48, Michael Scherer a écrit : > > Or, as a mathematician would say : > backport_level(R) = stormi_constant / release_frequency(R) > > ( please not that you are now half as famous as Planck, Faraday and > Boltzmann since there is a constant named after you, the other ha

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

> Op dinsdag 14 juni 2011 18:08:17 schreef Patricia Fraser: > > Hi, > > > > 2c from the marcomm team... > > > > > Proposal 1: > > > 6 months release cycle -> 12 months life cycle > > > ( Fedora, Ubuntu, Mandriva < 2010.1 && Mandriva != 2006.0 ) > > > > > > Proposal 2: > > > 9 months release cy

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

Le mardi 14 juin 2011 20:00:39, Anne nicolas a écrit : > 2011/6/14 Wolfgang Bornath > > > 2011/6/14 Anne nicolas : > > > I guess because of Mandriva policy. We did provide backports but it was > > > explicitely said to be unsupported. "Use it at your own risks" > > > We may have to rewrite this

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

Op dinsdag 14 juni 2011 22:35:21 schreef Margot: > On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:57:03 +0200 > > Maarten Vanraes wrote: > > Op dinsdag 14 juni 2011 16:22:42 schreef Lee Forest: > > [...] > > > > > Android mail does that by default. But that just proves my > > > other point. Half the time these replies

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:57:03 +0200 Maarten Vanraes wrote: > Op dinsdag 14 juni 2011 16:22:42 schreef Lee Forest: > [...] > > Android mail does that by default. But that just proves my > > other point. Half the time these replies complaining about top > > posting, lazyness, or 'netiquette' are bei

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

Op dinsdag 14 juni 2011 18:08:17 schreef Patricia Fraser: > Hi, > > 2c from the marcomm team... > > > Proposal 1: > > 6 months release cycle -> 12 months life cycle > > ( Fedora, Ubuntu, Mandriva < 2010.1 && Mandriva != 2006.0 ) > > > > Proposal 2: > > 9 months release cycle -> 18 months life cy

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

Op dinsdag 14 juni 2011 04:08:34 schreef Michael Scherer: > Le mardi 14 juin 2011 à 03:30 +0200, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : > > Op dinsdag 14 juni 2011 01:02:51 schreef Michael Scherer: > > > Le lundi 13 juin 2011 à 15:51 +0300, Thomas Backlund a écrit : > > > > Wolfgang Bornath skrev 13.6.2011 15:2

Re: [Mageia-dev] get-skype package for submission

Op dinsdag 14 juni 2011 17:40:56 schreef Angelo Naselli: > > I would prefer to find a better way than suggest :/ > > ( like a meta rpm pulling mgarepo, bm, the policy and rpmlint ). > > something like task-mageia-devel? > > Angelo +1

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

In data lunedì 13 giugno 2011 23:44:01, Colin Guthrie ha scritto: > read about 30 or 40 different community lists. It's much quicker for > me to have a standard UI and a standard way of operating and a standard > look and feel. > > Each project having a separate forum, with separate logins, with >

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

Op dinsdag 14 juni 2011 16:22:42 schreef Lee Forest: [...] > Android mail does that by default. But that just proves my other point. > Half the time these replies complaining about top posting, lazyness, or > 'netiquette' are being shot back instead of useful respones. In a forum > this is much les

Re: [Mageia-dev] Question about backports: calibre (bug 1659)

I > > (FWIW I've not seen the nvidia proprietary kernel module fail to > > compile in about 6-8months, and the kernel got updated many times > > during the previous Cauldron release cycle). > > Maybe he was talking about fglrx :) and not in Cauldron but in fedora not the last kernel update tho

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

2011/6/14 Jehan Pagès : > Hi, > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote: >>> and shouldn't be used >>> to bring the half of your system up to date. >> >> The word "stable release" implies "doesn't change much"; so a new >> version of vlc or wine isn't a problem, but don't put "updatin

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

On 06/14/2011 01:33 PM, Jehan Pagès wrote: Hi, This has all been discussed before. See the thread at http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.devel/924

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release taskcoach-1.2.20-1.mga2

Le 14/06/2011 15:34, Mageia Team a écrit : Name: taskcoachRelocations: (not relocatable) Version : 1.2.20Vendor: Mageia.Org Release : 1.mga2Build Date: Tue Jun 14 15:33:18 2011 Install Date: (not installed)

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

Hi, On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote: >> and shouldn't be used >> to bring the half of your system up to date. > > The word "stable release" implies "doesn't change much"; so a new > version of vlc or wine isn't a problem, but don't put "updating to > GNOME3 or KDE 4.8 in Mageia

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

On 14 June 2011 09:25, Thorsten van Lil wrote: [...] > > Backports aren't supposed to be for the averaged user I've seen this argument more than once in this thread. Why isn't backports suitable for the average user? that same average user would install an RPM package from a 3rd party repo or the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

2011/6/14 Wolfgang Bornath > 2011/6/14 Anne nicolas : > > > > I guess because of Mandriva policy. We did provide backports but it was > > explicitely said to be unsupported. "Use it at your own risks" > > We may have to rewrite this and make things clear > > Do you mean, just telling people that

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

2011/6/14 Jehan Pagès : >On the user point of view, all one should care > is knowing a newer version, which is supposed tested and approved, is > available. A BIG +1 -- wobo

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

Hi, On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:16 PM, Thorsten van Lil wrote: > Am 14.06.2011 15:43, schrieb Michael Scherer: >>> >>> Yes, but Backports are not officially supported and we wouldn't advice >>> new users >>> >  to backports normally. >> >> I am sorry, but I fail to follow your reasoning. > > What

Re: [Mageia-dev] Question about backports: calibre (bug 1659)

> Would this 'backports' repository section sound better to you if it is > renamed e.g. to 'rolling' ? (: No, backports sounds very bad, except maybe for people coming from Mandriva. They (you!) must love the concept. (Oh, maybe "trolling" instead of "rolling" :-)) Let me put it this way. Pe

Re: [Mageia-dev] Question about backports: calibre (bug 1659)

Le mardi 14 juin 2011 13:28:43, Ahmad Samir a écrit : > On 14 June 2011 15:52, Angelo Naselli wrote: > > martedì 14 giugno 2011 alle 12:00, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU ha scritto: > >> Fedora made a better judgment > > I didn't find my commoncpp2 version there, for me is blocking, they > > ship 0.7.x an

Re: [Mageia-dev] Question about backports: calibre (bug 1659)

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU wrote: Indeed, Mageia does not have the number of packagers that Fedora has. However, if Mageia's _policy_ is to rather have 6-7 months old versions in updates, I should probably realize that Mageia is not for me. This will ultimately be up to the peo

Re: [Mageia-dev] gmane

2011/6/14 Antoine Pitrou : > On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:09:23 +0200 > Wolfgang Bornath > wrote: >> >>  - gmane is clumsy, slow - my tests last September/October reveilled >> that with an active list you see 2 replies in the list before the >> initial mail is available in gmane. So, people using gmane

Re: [Mageia-dev] Question about backports: calibre (bug 1659)

On 14 June 2011 15:52, Angelo Naselli wrote: > martedì 14 giugno 2011 alle 12:00, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU ha scritto: >> Fedora made a better judgment > I didn't find my commoncpp2 version there, for me is blocking, they > ship 0.7.x and 0.8.x is out with *important* fixings! > Every time a kernel u

[Mageia-dev] gmane

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:09:23 +0200 Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > > - gmane is clumsy, slow - my tests last September/October reveilled > that with an active list you see 2 replies in the list before the > initial mail is available in gmane. So, people using gmane for posting > will always be behind

Re: [Mageia-dev] Question about backports: calibre (bug 1659)

> Release frequency never was a criteria for differentiating between > pushing something to updates and something to backports. It should be. Otherwise, we should all be using OpenOffice.org 1.0.1. -- security issues set aside. > And I see no reason why it would be in favor of doing a bug fix up

Re: [Mageia-dev] forum/mailing list project

2011/6/14 Lee Forest : > Mailing lists and forums I guess both have drawbacks and advantages. I am > sorry if I sounded biased, and was off topic. I still think some kind of > innovative new messaging/forum/blog/mailing list reimagining sounds like a > fun project. But I do understand its not a fea

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

Hi, 2c from the marcomm team... > Proposal 1: > 6 months release cycle -> 12 months life cycle > ( Fedora, Ubuntu, Mandriva < 2010.1 && Mandriva != 2006.0 ) > > Proposal 2: > 9 months release cycle -> 18 months life cycle > ( ~ opensuse and the one we used for Mageia 1 ) > > Proposal 3: >

Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox 5

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:14:02 +0200 Samuel Verschelde wrote: > > Le mardi 14 juin 2011 13:56:29, Dexter Morgan a écrit : > > Hello, > > > > do we wait firefox 5 rc or we can start to update to firefox 5 soon ? > > Mandriva now has several packages for firefox (like for chromium), following > th

[Mageia-dev] forum/mailing list project

Mailing lists and forums I guess both have drawbacks and advantages. I am sorry if I sounded biased, and was off topic. I still think some kind of innovative new messaging/forum/blog/mailing list reimagining sounds like a fun project. But I do understand its not a feasible option right now for mage

Re: [Mageia-dev] get-skype package for submission

> I would prefer to find a better way than suggest :/ > ( like a meta rpm pulling mgarepo, bm, the policy and rpmlint ). > > something like task-mageia-devel? Angelo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

2011/6/14 Anne nicolas : > > I guess because of Mandriva policy. We did provide backports but it was > explicitely said to be unsupported. "Use it at your own risks" > We may have to rewrite  this and make things clear Do you mean, just telling people that it is no risk or do you mean a change whi

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

Am 14.06.2011 17:02, schrieb Anne nicolas: I do not understand what people are saying about backports being "unsupported". IMHO we should either have backports that are supported, with fixes for security issues and important bugs, or no backports. I guess because of Mandriva policy. We did pro

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME3 ?

Le 14/06/2011 16:04, Dexter Morgan a écrit : [...] do you have the logs from ~/.xsession-errors when the session fails please ? My session fails each time I try to launch an apps (even gnome-terminal!). Here is my log: http://pastebin.mandriva.com/23048 Nothing bad in my Xorg.log Help, I'm

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

2011/6/14 Christiaan Welvaart > On Tue, 14 Jun 2011, Thorsten van Lil wrote: > > I don't want a full rolling release, because of the listed disadvantages. >> So, if you ask me what is "wrong" with Arch, I would say: >> * due to the rolling release, it's nearly vanilla. This doesn't match >> requ

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011, Thorsten van Lil wrote: I don't want a full rolling release, because of the listed disadvantages. So, if you ask me what is "wrong" with Arch, I would say: * due to the rolling release, it's nearly vanilla. This doesn't match requirements of Mageia * no innovations (becaus

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

'Twas brillig, and Lee Forest at 14/06/11 13:52 did gyre and gimble: > mailing list might work best for a couple people but is it worth > inconveniencing the rest of the word because you are a die hard mailing > list user I've posted the arguments before and I'll do it again, despite this thread g

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

On 06/14/2011 10:22 AM, Lee Forest wrote: On 06/14/2011 10:03 AM, Frank Griffin wrote: That's not caused by an ML, it's caused by people being lazy and quoting the entire message to which they're replying, which is a breach of netiquette. As is top-posting :-) Android mail does that by default

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

On 06/14/2011 10:03 AM, Frank Griffin wrote: > On 06/14/2011 09:38 AM, Lee Forest wrote: >> >> And keeping one golden rule of software development in mind, don't >> let your system do redundant tasks. Look how many times a >> conversation is repeated throughout its life time in a mailing list. >> T

Re: [Mageia-dev] Question about backports: calibre (bug 1659)

2011/6/14 Angelo Naselli > martedì 14 giugno 2011 alle 12:00, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU ha scritto: > . > > Said that every distros have problems. Mageia has no monodevelop > for me taht's blocking as well... > I will push monodevelop in svn asap (maybe this evening), for the revision of my ment

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME3 ?

On 06/14/2011 10:04 AM, Dexter Morgan wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Frank Griffin wrote: On 06/14/2011 09:27 AM, Dexter Morgan wrote: If I try to install gnome-themes-standard, I get conflicts with gnome-themes-2.32, which has been pulled in by epiphany-2.32. Removing gnome-themes-2.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 15:38, Lee Forest wrote: > And keeping one golden rule of software development in mind, don't let your > system do redundant tasks. As golden as the need to not to have redundancy: it depends. Redundancy can be very, very appreciated. But not always in a discussion (be it

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

Am 14.06.2011 15:43, schrieb Michael Scherer: Yes, but Backports are not officially supported and we wouldn't advice new users > to backports normally. I am sorry, but I fail to follow your reasoning. What I meant is: We can't tell the user to use the backports and if he runs in trouble we l

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME3 ?

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Frank Griffin wrote: > On 06/14/2011 09:27 AM, Dexter Morgan wrote: >> >> Conflicts should be fixed now. >> > > In order to separate the upgrade issues, I just did a fresh Cauldron GNOME > install in a VBox VM, and tried to log in. > > I get the flat (not striped)

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

On 06/14/2011 09:38 AM, Lee Forest wrote: And keeping one golden rule of software development in mind, don't let your system do redundant tasks. Look how many times a conversation is repeated throughout its life time in a mailing list. Thats alot of redundant data using up server traffic. T

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME3 ?

On 06/14/2011 09:27 AM, Dexter Morgan wrote: Conflicts should be fixed now. In order to separate the upgrade issues, I just did a fresh Cauldron GNOME install in a VBox VM, and tried to log in. I get the flat (not striped) blue background, probably because your dependency fix hasn't come t

Re: [Mageia-dev] Question about backports: calibre (bug 1659)

martedì 14 giugno 2011 alle 12:00, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU ha scritto: > Fedora made a better judgment I didn't find my commoncpp2 version there, for me is blocking, they ship 0.7.x and 0.8.x is out with *important* fixings! Every time a kernel update (upgrade) is pushed, we need to wait nvidia kerne

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

Le mardi 14 juin 2011 à 07:55 +0200, Thorsten van Lil a écrit : > Am Montag, 13. Juni 2011, 23:28:04 schrieb Renaud MICHEL: > > On lundi 13 juin 2011 at 23:06, Thorsten van Lil wrote : > > > A rolling release has following advantages: > > > 1. the distribution is always up to date (also hardware su

Re: [Mageia-dev] Question about backports: calibre (bug 1659)

Le mardi 14 juin 2011 à 03:00 -0700, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU a écrit : > > > So why does it have to be treated differently than the others since > > there is nothing special about this release cycle ? > > Michael, please give me an example of an application that releases on average > 5 time a mon

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

And keeping one golden rule of software development in mind, don't let your system do redundant tasks. Look how many times a conversation is repeated throughout its life time in a mailing list. Thats alot of redundant data using up server traffic. In a forum everything is more central. A lot less r

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

Lee Forest said on Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 08:52:50AM -0400: > Only a couple people so far are hooked on mailing > lists. Yes, all the ones who really work on making the distro ! And I can't take that opportunity to thank them :-) My self +1 for ML, -1 for forums. Bruno. -- Open Source & Linux P

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME3 ?

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Frank Griffin wrote: > On 06/14/2011 08:56 AM, Dexter Morgan wrote: >> >> if you can provide the urpmi logs i would be glad to fix this as >> quickly as possible > > I didn't keep the stdout, although the fact that the package is installed is > logged in /var/log/m

Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox 5

On 14 June 2011 14:30, Michael Scherer wrote: >> > do we wait firefox 5 rc or we can start to update to firefox 5 soon ? >> >> Mandriva now has several packages for firefox (like for chromium), following >> the upstream channels, maybe we could envision doing it too ? > > That's 3 times the work h

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

On 06/14/2011 09:07 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: So, IMHO this discussion is as meaningless as the famous/infamous vi vs emacs discussions of way back when. +1 Not to mention that if you don't like getting emails, you can always simply use the archives to find what interests you.

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME3 ?

On 06/14/2011 08:56 AM, Dexter Morgan wrote: if you can provide the urpmi logs i would be glad to fix this as quickly as possible I didn't keep the stdout, although the fact that the package is installed is logged in /var/log/messages, the conflict errors are not. However, the last ones I noti

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

I've been around when there were no forums, just news groups and mailing lists. And I have been posting in forums since they were invented (even in early CompuServe times). What I found out over all these years: 1. All these reasons which have been posted here and in previous threads since the beg

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME3 ?

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Frank Griffin wrote: > On 06/13/2011 06:45 PM, JA Magallón wrote: >> >> On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:33:20 -0400, Frank Griffin >>  wrote: >> >>> On 06/13/2011 04:12 PM, Frank Griffin wrote: >>> Ahh.  Correction with the latest updates: now the ID previously using >>> GN

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

I agree. Mailing lists are messy and hard to follow. And sometimes the only response you get is about how you sent the message wrong. I bet more people would use the forums. Only a couple people so far are hooked on mailing lists. Im seeing more and more comments coming in about this. forums would

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME3 ?

On 06/13/2011 06:45 PM, JA Magallón wrote: On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:33:20 -0400, Frank Griffin wrote: On 06/13/2011 04:12 PM, Frank Griffin wrote: Ahh. Correction with the latest updates: now the ID previously using GNOME 2.32 doesn't get past the blue background either. Two kind of problems:

Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox 5

On 06/14/2011 08:22 AM, Thierry Vignaud wrote: Upgrading stable firefox to firefox5rc and importing firefox-{beta,aurora} are two distinct orthogonal things IMHO. since firefox5 is near being released, I think we should update main xulrunner+firefox to 5 anyway Whatever we do, please don't put

Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox 5

14.06.2011 15:32, Frank Griffin kirjutas: On 06/14/2011 08:22 AM, Thierry Vignaud wrote: Upgrading stable firefox to firefox5rc and importing firefox-{beta,aurora} are two distinct orthogonal things IMHO. since firefox5 is near being released, I think we should update main xulrunner+firefox to

Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox 5

14.06.2011 15:30, Michael Scherer kirjutas: Le mardi 14 juin 2011 à 14:14 +0200, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le mardi 14 juin 2011 13:56:29, Dexter Morgan a écrit : Hello, do we wait firefox 5 rc or we can start to update to firefox 5 soon ? Mandriva now has several packages for firefox (like

Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox 5

Le mardi 14 juin 2011 à 14:14 +0200, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : > Le mardi 14 juin 2011 13:56:29, Dexter Morgan a écrit : > > Hello, > > > > do we wait firefox 5 rc or we can start to update to firefox 5 soon ? > > Mandriva now has several packages for firefox (like for chromium), following > t

Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox 5

On 14 June 2011 14:18, Dexter Morgan wrote: >>> do we wait firefox 5 rc or we can start to update to firefox 5 soon ? >> >> Mandriva now has several packages for firefox (like for chromium), following >> the upstream channels, maybe we could envision doing it too ? > > which mean we will provide a

Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox 5

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Samuel Verschelde wrote: > > Le mardi 14 juin 2011 13:56:29, Dexter Morgan a écrit : >> Hello, >> >> do we wait firefox 5 rc or we can start to update to firefox 5 soon ? > > Mandriva now has several packages for firefox (like for chromium), following > the upstrea

Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox 5

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Balcaen John wrote: > Le mardi 14 juin 2011 08:56:29, Dexter Morgan a écrit : > > Hello, > > > > do we wait firefox 5 rc or we can start to update to firefox 5 soon ? > > > I noticed that mandriva is now providing a -stable, -beta and -devel > version > of firefo

Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox 5

Le mardi 14 juin 2011 13:56:29, Dexter Morgan a écrit : > Hello, > > do we wait firefox 5 rc or we can start to update to firefox 5 soon ? Mandriva now has several packages for firefox (like for chromium), following the upstream channels, maybe we could envision doing it too ? Samuel

Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox 5

Le mardi 14 juin 2011 08:56:29, Dexter Morgan a écrit : > Hello, > > do we wait firefox 5 rc or we can start to update to firefox 5 soon ? > I noticed that mandriva is now providing a -stable, -beta and -devel version of firefox, maybe we can use this solution. Regards, -- Balcaen John Jabber

Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox 5

14.06.2011 14:56, Dexter Morgan kirjutas: Hello, do we wait firefox 5 rc or we can start to update to firefox 5 soon ? Will there be RC? I'm not so sure. They have now new dev cycle and 5 should be released next week. As a silent update AFAIK. -- Sander

[Mageia-dev] Firefox 5

Hello, do we wait firefox 5 rc or we can start to update to firefox 5 soon ?

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

'Twas brillig, and lebarhon at 14/06/11 11:42 did gyre and gimble: > by *roadrunner > * » > Jun 13th, '11, 22:24 > > pmithrandir wrote:BTW : I think mailing list are totally outdated > and that mageia should have a special

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

by *roadrunner * » Jun 13th, '11, 22:24 pmithrandir wrote:BTW : I think mailing list are totally outdated and that mageia should have a special section in this forum for these discussion, or maybe another forum. It'

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

by *corbintech * » Jun 13th, '11, 22:12 I quit the ML because I was not doing it right (never used a list like that before). So if I may, I will post here what somebody responded to me and write my response here. compl

[Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

Hello, I will forward in this thread the messages coming from the forum. They aren't my opinion. Lebarhon.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Question about backports: calibre (bug 1659)

> So why does it have to be treated differently than the others since > there is nothing special about this release cycle  ? Michael, please give me an example of an application that releases on average 5 time a month. Really, give me an example. And, like it or not, calibre is _THE_ applicati

Re: [Mageia-dev] Cross compile x86_64 on i586 for icecream?

'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 14/06/11 09:27 did gyre and gimble: > 'Twas brillig, and Christiaan Welvaart at 13/06/11 12:24 did gyre and > gimble: >> On Mon, 13 Jun 2011, Colin Guthrie wrote: >> >>> I'm not exactly a guru with icecream but is it possible to build a >>> toolchain that can all

Re: [Mageia-dev] Some news regarding rpm packaging rules : %clean section

Le mardi 14 juin 2011 à 10:32 +0200, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > On 13 June 2011 11:52, Colin Guthrie wrote: > > Note to other packagers: Please don't go cleaning (no pun intended) spec > > files without thinking. As with all changes to rpm specs (such as the > > infamous buildroot change of '09 :

Re: [Mageia-dev] "Job offer" : mentoring program coordinator

Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le lundi 13 juin 2011 00:52:18, andre999 a écrit : Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Hello to everyone, I'm sure there's someone among you who wants to help Mageia but hasn't found yet the good way to do it. Today is your lucky day, because there's a job that's available

Re: [Mageia-dev] Some news regarding rpm packaging rules : %clean section

On 13 June 2011 11:52, Colin Guthrie wrote: > Note to other packagers: Please don't go cleaning (no pun intended) spec > files without thinking. As with all changes to rpm specs (such as the > infamous buildroot change of '09 :D) making the specs clean for one > distro version makes it harder/impo

Re: [Mageia-dev] Cross compile x86_64 on i586 for icecream?

'Twas brillig, and Christiaan Welvaart at 13/06/11 12:24 did gyre and gimble: > On Mon, 13 Jun 2011, Colin Guthrie wrote: > >> I'm not exactly a guru with icecream but is it possible to build a >> toolchain that can allow i586 nodes to compile x86_64 code? > > If your question is about the toolch

Re: [Mageia-dev] perl 5.14.0 now available

On 11 June 2011 23:52, Pascal Terjan wrote: > Thanks for helping but > 1) Please use a better changelog message, like "Rebuild for perl > 5.14". Increase rel for rebuild is not interesting when looking at the > history of a package. we should really reject "one word" commit messages, at least on

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