Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-27 Thread Allan Streib
Brian Toscano writes: > Thanks for the suggestion. Looks like heater supply, heater return, > upper radiator, and lower radiator hoses will set me back about $110 > plus shipping and tax. I'm not sure what Rusty could do. Check rockauto.com. Not to take anything away from Rusty; I certainly w

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-27 Thread Rich Thomas
The coefficient of expansion for water is 207E-6/degC at 20C. Not really sure that your proposed reason/guess is correct. Actually, I am sure it is incorrect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_expansion --R On 5/26/12 10:16 PM, Fmiser wrote: Brian Toscano wrote: Wouldn't that support t

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-26 Thread Fmiser
> Brian Toscano wrote: > Wouldn't that support the theory that the return hose should > be larger? > > The return hose is 5/8 and the supply is 11/16. Oh. Uh. I can read. I guess just not very well. U. Because the water will have been cooled, and so is more dense? -- Philip, now just

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-26 Thread Peter Frederick
The supply is hotter and less dense, the water shrinks going through the heater core. Peter On May 26, 2012, at 8:31 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Wouldn't that support the theory that the return hose should be larger? The return hose is 5/8 and the supply is 11/16. On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 7

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-26 Thread Brian Toscano
Wouldn't that support the theory that the return hose should be larger? The return hose is 5/8 and the supply is 11/16. On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Fmiser wrote: > > Brian Toscano wrote: > > > I tried using a length of Gates heater hose, but because of > > the bends, the hose either kinks

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-26 Thread Fmiser
> Brian Toscano wrote: > I tried using a length of Gates heater hose, but because of > the bends, the hose either kinks or narrows by the heater > core. I could plumb in a 45 degree fitting, I but found the > dealer part numbers for these hoses. I will just pay for the > dealer hoses and elimina

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-26 Thread Peter Frederick
Yup, but that was almost a year ago. Could have been from Napa or AutoZone, too, as I said, I didn't buy them, just helped my buddy install them. peter On May 26, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: O'Reilly's is where I stopped today. They normally carry Gates hoses. They did not ha

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-26 Thread Brian Toscano
O'Reilly's is where I stopped today. They normally carry Gates hoses. They did not have the heater hoses I was looking for in stock. Did the heater supply and return lines that you installed fit perfectly? Thanks, Brian On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: > O'Reillys had t

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-26 Thread Peter Frederick
O'Reillys had them last summer, on the shelf. I didn't buy them, though, so they might have come from somewhere else, but they were not special order. Peter On May 26, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Peter, Where did you get the hoses? I'm doing this as preventative maintenance.

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-26 Thread Brian Toscano
Peter, Where did you get the hoses? I'm doing this as preventative maintenance. John, I don't know where you can get Goodyear hoses? Craig, Thanks for the suggestion. Looks like heater supply, heater return, upper radiator, and lower radiator hoses will set me back about $110 plus shipping a

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-26 Thread John Reames
I've had better luck with Goodyear hoses; they fit MUCH better than the gates ones, and look spot-on compared to dealer hoses. Gates pre-formed hoses for some applications were off even 20 years ago (IIRC, upper radiator hose for an 82 Ford LTD (midsize, not fullsize), 3800 V6.) -- John W Rea

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-26 Thread Craig
On Sat, 26 May 2012 15:54:38 -0600 Brian Toscano wrote: > I tried using a length of Gates heater hose, but because of the bends, > the hose either kinks or narrows by the heater core. I could plumb in > a 45 degree fitting, I but found the dealer part numbers for these > hoses. Call Rusty at 1-

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-26 Thread Peter Frederick
I'm glad I replaced my buddy's hoses last year. He blew an upper hose, and I suggested he do all of them, and they were all going. 98 Cherokee, looked original, so that's not too bad, but if he'd waited we'd have been in your position. Peter On May 26, 2012, at 4:54 PM, Brian Toscano wro

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-26 Thread Brian Toscano
I tried using a length of Gates heater hose, but because of the bends, the hose either kinks or narrows by the heater core. I could plumb in a 45 degree fitting, I but found the dealer part numbers for these hoses. I will just pay for the dealer hoses and eliminate the extra fitting. I also noti

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-07 Thread Brian Toscano
So 15 years with Prestone Green and 45-75 years with MB coolant? On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: > With the modern coolants, a long time. With green crap a few years. > > Same as a Benz. > > > Peter > > On May 7, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: > > How long do co

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-07 Thread Peter Frederick
With the modern coolants, a long time. With green crap a few years. Same as a Benz. Peter On May 7, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: How long do cooling system hoses last on American cars? On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Russ Williams wrote: Better be they supply most of the ho

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-07 Thread Brian Toscano
How long do cooling system hoses last on American cars? On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Russ Williams wrote: > Better be they supply most of the hoses for the US manufactures. > According the my guy at the Local FAPS. > > > > On 5/7/2012 16:14, Brian Toscano wrote: > >> Thanks for another idea.

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-07 Thread Russ Williams
Better be they supply most of the hoses for the US manufactures. According the my guy at the Local FAPS. On 5/7/2012 16:14, Brian Toscano wrote: Thanks for another idea. Is Goodyear hose any good? On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Russ Williams wrote: Brian Try Rock Auto, is this the one y

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-07 Thread Brian Toscano
Thanks for another idea. Is Goodyear hose any good? On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Russ Williams wrote: > Brian > Try Rock Auto, is this the one you need? > http://www.rockauto.com/**catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=**1333823 > > Russ W. > > >

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-07 Thread Russ Williams
Brian Try Rock Auto, is this the one you need? http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1333823 Russ W. On 5/6/2012 21:47, Brian Toscano wrote: Quadratec and others only have the upper and lower radiator hoses (which are also still available from the dealer). Its the lines to/from the h

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-07 Thread Brian Toscano
Talk about ugly! On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Alex Chamberlain wrote: > > What's needed is generic hose premolded with a variety of bends at >> different angles, and standardized fittings to join one piece to >> another, kind of like exhaust or PVC pipe. >> > > I believ

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Alex Chamberlain wrote: What's needed is generic hose premolded with a variety of bends at different angles, and standardized fittings to join one piece to another, kind of like exhaust or PVC pipe. I believe that all you need are 45/90/180 degree bends, straight hose, and a handful of hose b

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-07 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 5:17 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > I suspect they don't offer molded hoses because every FLAPS carries heater > hose... > But in so many modern cars where the engine is a tight squeeze under the hood (and in a lot of older cars too) the typical generic hose that comes off a b

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-07 Thread Brian Toscano
ed hoses because every FLAPS carries heater > hose... > > My local FLAPS will cut to length for me, they sell heater hose by the > inch. > > -Curt > > > Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 22:38:25 -0400 > From: Walt Zarnoch > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: R

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-07 Thread Curt Raymond
I suspect they don't offer molded hoses because every FLAPS carries heater hose... My local FLAPS will cut to length for me, they sell heater hose by the inch. -Curt Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 22:38:25 -0400 From: Walt Zarnoch To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep h

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-07 Thread Dan Penoff
You can find pretty much anything you want as far as size/length/flexible/molded at NAPA. Just be sure to go to one that has a lot of delivery trucks. That means the bulk of their business is commercial. Dan On May 6, 2012, at 10:38 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: > Mcparts is fine, i have a 8 foot l

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-06 Thread Brian Toscano
Quadratec and others only have the upper and lower radiator hoses (which are also still available from the dealer). Its the lines to/from the heater core that I'm having trouble finding. 2001 Jeep Cherokee (XJ). On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: > What model Jeep? > > Try

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-06 Thread Peter Frederick
What model Jeep? Try some of the aftermarket custom houses, they are more likely than McParts to have them. Quadtrack is good, there are others. Peter On May 6, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Hey all, Since domestic car manufacturers don't continue to support their vehicles as

Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-06 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Mcparts is fine, i have a 8 foot length of their fuel line serving as a power steering return line on my other car, and the heater hose holds up to green death just fine. Walt On May 6, 2012 10:32 PM, "Brian Toscano" wrote: > Hey all, > > Since domestic car manufacturers don't continue to suppor

[MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

2012-05-06 Thread Brian Toscano
Hey all, Since domestic car manufacturers don't continue to support their vehicles as well as Mercedes, it is not surprising to me the that molded heater hoses that go between the thermostat housing/water pump and heater core of my Jeep are NLA. It looks like the replacement is standard heater ho