Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-09-15 Thread Dominique Chabord
Le 15/09/2011 19:02, Cuong Hoang Bui a écrit : > Hi All, > > OpenERP Medical project is now migrated to Tryton :( It's really > regretful. I think the main reason is related to license recently. AFAIK, the decision to migrate from openerp to tryton was made by medical project before any discusi

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-09-15 Thread Raphael Valyi
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Stefan Rijnhart wrote: > On 15-09-11 19:02, Cuong Hoang Bui wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> OpenERP Medical project is now migrated to Tryton :( It's really >> regretful. I think the main reason is related to license recently. >> >> > Hi, > > the reasons cited for Medic

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-09-15 Thread Stefan Rijnhart
On 15-09-11 19:02, Cuong Hoang Bui wrote: Hi All, OpenERP Medical project is now migrated to Tryton :( It's really regretful. I think the main reason is related to license recently. Hi, the reasons cited for Medical supporting Tryton were: 1 support multiple frameworks for better continui

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-09-15 Thread Cuong Hoang Bui
Hi All, OpenERP Medical project is now migrated to Tryton :( It's really regretful. I think the main reason is related to license recently. So far there's no information or conclusion about this issue. Fabien, could you please tell something about the future of OpenERP. -- ***

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-08-03 Thread Phong Nguyen
regards, Phong. > >From: Albert Cervera i Areny >To: openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net >Cc: Fabien Pinckaers >Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 4:31 PM >Subject: Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP > > >A Divendres, 29 de

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-08-03 Thread Ovnicraft
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Albert Cervera i Areny wrote: > ** > > A Divendres, 29 de juliol de 2011 17:38:53, Fabien Pinckaers va escriure: > > > Albert, > > > > > > I was not talking about nan in my email. I have a lot of respect for nan > > > which is a very good company and that share a go

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-08-03 Thread Albert Cervera i Areny
A Divendres, 29 de juliol de 2011 17:38:53, Fabien Pinckaers va escriure: > Albert, > > I was not talking about nan in my email. I have a lot of respect for nan > which is a very good company and that share a good open source vision. > > > So, guys, don't be confused by what's being said; some ac

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-07-29 Thread Raphael Valyi
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Fabien Pinckaers wrote: > Hello, > > > I even have a very personal question: > > > > did you guys at OpenERP SA anticipated those 2 issues: > > 1) incompatibility between AGPL modules and private modules? > > No, we missed that point. When we understood we missed

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-07-29 Thread Fabien Pinckaers
Hello, > I even have a very personal question: > > did you guys at OpenERP SA anticipated those 2 issues: > 1) incompatibility between AGPL modules and private modules? No, we missed that point. When we understood we missed that point, we updated the FAQ within 2 days. > 2) how private module p

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-07-29 Thread Raphael Valyi
Fabien, sorry, to comment again: > Yes, may be I should explain this mistake of mine. > > When I announced this, we found a solution that: > - is compatible with AGPL > Sorry, but I think you are playing on words here: private modules are not compatibles with many strict AGPL modules we have i

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-07-29 Thread Fabien Pinckaers
Albert, I was not talking about nan in my email. I have a lot of respect for nan which is a very good company and that share a good open source vision. > So, guys, don't be confused by what's being said; some activists are > motivated by something else than creating a strong product and communit

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-07-29 Thread Raphael Valyi
Hello community, I'm unfortunately very busy right now, so here at Akretion we need to discuss internally about that and give our position and suggestions. Already I can tell that I'm very happy to see Fabien making such a proposal to add some extra SaaS protective clause in license exception. Ind

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP Foundation

2011-07-29 Thread Maxime Chambreuil
+1 for a contributor agreement for OpenERP Foundation. -- Maxime Chambreuil - Mail original - Hi Fabien, thank you again for your effort to display your commitment to free and There is already such a section in the FLA to this purpose [1], which states KDE e.V. shall only exercis

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-07-29 Thread Stefan Rijnhart
Hi Fabien, thank you again for your effort to display your commitment to free and open source software, especially in the following line: we can put a clause on the contributor agreement: if one day, something developed by openerp is not open source (under one of the gnu licenses) the copyr

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-07-28 Thread Sharoon Thomas
Hello Fabien, Well, now that you have personally mentioned my name, I am required to clarify our (me and Openlabs) stand on your remarks. On Jul 28, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Fabien Pinckaers wrote: > Hello, > > It's a pity that some lost their trust on OpenERP, especially because these > fears and d

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-07-28 Thread Albert Cervera i Areny
A Dijous, 28 de juliol de 2011 19:12:29, Fabien Pinckaers va escriure: > It's a pity that some lost their trust on OpenERP, especially because these > fears and doubts have been highly motivated by tryton guys that tried to > create frustrations, unfair critics and war against OpenERP. We used to >

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-07-28 Thread Fabien Pinckaers
Leonardo, > - on one side, some people, especially tryton supporters, are > behaving in a way I don't agree with. We all make our choices, > any of us is free work on OpenERP, Tryton, SAP, OpenBravo, a > bakery shop or whatever, but that doesn't entitle us to tweet > #openerp #fail and similar FUD

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-07-28 Thread Leonardo Pistone
Fabien, I think there are two sides on this discussion: - on one side, some people, especially tryton supporters, are behaving in a way I don't agree with. We all make our choices, any of us is free work on OpenERP, Tryton, SAP, OpenBravo, a bakery shop or whatever, but that doesn't entitle us

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-07-28 Thread Fabien Pinckaers
Hello, It's a pity that some lost their trust on OpenERP, especially because these fears and doubts have been highly motivated by tryton guys that tried to create frustrations, unfair critics and war against OpenERP. We used to never answer to these unfair attacks as creating a war and motivate

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-07-28 Thread Davide Corio
Il 28/07/2011 01:59, Ana Juaristi ha scritto: It's really a pity that Nan is moving to Triton and several others are thinking about it. I think OpenERP doesn't know the value is loosing if they let Nan go. It's my opinion. Exactly, i don't care about the stupid war between tryton and openerp,

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-07-27 Thread Ana Juaristi
Raphaël named the enterprises in Spain that built spanish localization modules. They were Nan, Zikzakmedia, Pexego and so many people not only partners but also community people who contributed and they are still contributing. Thanks to them it's possible today installing and implementing OpenERP i

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-07-27 Thread Albert Cervera i Areny
A Dimecres, 27 de juliol de 2011 17:58:04, Raphael Valyi va escriure: > Okay, believe me the situation is just as annoying for us too. So I hope > you will start providing enough contractual guarantees about the SaaS and > may be make the exception only an additional option that is not something >

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-07-27 Thread Raphael Valyi
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Fabien Pinckaers wrote: > Hello, > > We just follow the recommandation of the Free Software Foundation: > - http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#AssignCopyright > > Most of the good open source software publishers does this. As an > example, here is the one

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-07-27 Thread Jan Verlaan - Veritos
Dear Stefan, thank you bringing up this topic. Thank you Fabian for answering the questions raised. The main question for me is still not asked and answered. Despite all communication done already from the start of the announcement in this dual license issue. To start with a side issue, where

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-07-26 Thread Ovnicraft
IMHO add in changelog file for each component the name of contributors is ok, i see that in many open source projects. Regards, On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Fabien Pinckaers wrote: > Hello Stefan, > > Thank you for your feedback. > > > thank you for your passionate reaction. I believe that

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-07-26 Thread Fabien Pinckaers
Hello Stefan, Thank you for your feedback. > thank you for your passionate reaction. I believe that you share the same > passion for Open Source software and the OpenERP products in particular as we > do. Yes, and I take this opportunity to also thank you for the great contrib you did too.

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-07-26 Thread Stefan Rijnhart
On 26-07-11 09:31, Alan Lord (Gmail) wrote: Might be an idea to take a look at the output of Project Harmony[1] for contributor agreements. These are community (inc. Canonical) developed agreements with a number of options to suit most requirements: [1] http://harmonyagreements.org/ Al Hi

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-07-26 Thread Stefan Rijnhart
Hi Fabien, thank you for your passionate reaction. I believe that you share the same passion for Open Source software and the OpenERP products in particular as we do. We agree with you that OpenERP SA is 'not just a commercial entity' and it has been doing a wonderful job building great open

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-07-26 Thread Alan Lord (Gmail)
Might be an idea to take a look at the output of Project Harmony[1] for contributor agreements. These are community (inc. Canonical) developed agreements with a number of options to suit most requirements: [1] http://harmonyagreements.org/ Al On 26/07/11 02:12, Fabien Pinckaers wrote: Hell

Re: [Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-07-25 Thread Fabien Pinckaers
Hello, We just follow the recommandation of the Free Software Foundation: - http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#AssignCopyright Most of the good open source software publishers does this. As an example, here is the one of Canonical (Ubuntu): - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonical%27s_c

[Openerp-community] Towards a contributor agreement for OpenERP

2011-07-25 Thread Stefan Rijnhart
Hi, In the forum topic on dual license community modules [1] we, like others before us pointed out that OpenERP SA was not entitled to relicense code from outside contributors. We were contacted afterwards by Olivier Dony who asked us whether we would be willing to assign copyright of our con