Hi all, been awhile! Some may be saying "not long enough" but eh.
I recently moved a mybb forum away from mysql to postgres. Along the way
I encountered a couple of things that either didn't seem to be supported
or I'm just not doing it right.
First, the server this is on is running versio
nt and missed a
value in the middle somewhere which shifted everything by one. It
was agreed that it shouldn't happen but I don't recall what else was
decided.
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> >
> >Please vote and I will tally the results.
> >
>
>
>
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I checked accepted it, but that wasn't a good enough reason for us to
support it. Until the fact that applications that were using that
syntax was causing PostgreSQL not to be used was the issue resolved.
Now I'm seeing the "but that's the way Oracle does it" excuse be
I seem to recall someone even
volunteering to write it for us.
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t and do aset nomail
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t" is most likely the command you need.)
>
> A low-tech solution would be to subscribe all your addresses and then
> set all but one to "nomail". Not sure if there's a better way.
The better way *was* loophole, but it's gone.
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link to something that disappears. If it's going to be here and not
go away again I'll be happy to add it.
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ppl subscribed to it ...
all done.
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I just yell at Marc if
something's broke.
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For the record, the voice on the MP3 isn't Bruce. It's the voice of a
professional broadcaster.
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u later today.
Then after I made it available someone else did the MP3 conversion
and I put that there as well. He caught on pretty quick! :)
>
> Jeff.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent:
one from the top.
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from the intended person? Does the filter check only the envelope from
> and not the From: line?
Don't filter, scan for viruses. McAfee finds it just fine.
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st to do ... how do you find the vscan
> stuff? do you find it slows down email noticeably?
pop4 doesn't even break a sweat and a ton of mail goes thru there every
day.
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> > > >
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> > > Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler
> > > Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ok, ok.. It does *NOW*. :)
There's probably still stuff that's broke that I haven't discovered
yet.
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On 1 Aug 2002, Rod Taylor wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-08-01 at 15:33, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> > On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Tom Lane wrote:
> >
> > > "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > ... is once more 'normal' .
;s a different user than "lowen" and we can
already restrict a user to one database, can't we? Hmmm. Just
checked and I guess not - I thought we had a record type of "user".
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On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, Lamar Owen wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 August 2002 03:29 pm, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> > Hate to complicate things more, but back to a global username, say
> > you have user "lowen" that should have access to all databases. What
> > happens if
al' users is polluting the namespace too
> much, and having none seems to be unappealing. This is why I am back to
> just the install user.
I wouldn't be in favor of that.
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ntire
issue is growing more and more complex. How about a configure item
to not even compile it in? Or better yet, a configure item to put
it there with the default off.
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Who the hell are these people and why can't they configure their
own MTA?
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n. When you included it a little
while ago I wondered what you were referring to so I read the whole
thing more carefully and realized that I missed the end.
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On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> > On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > OK, no one complained/commented on my idea of having global users have a
> > > trailing '@', so here is a patch t
On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> > On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >
> > > Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
#x27;m willing to live with that.
Going from postgres to postgres@ ??? I don't care how simple the patch
is, I'd rather it was configurable to keep it out completely. That's
not just ugly, that's coyote ugly!
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On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Tom Lane wrote:
> Vince Vielhaber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Going from postgres to postgres@ ??? I don't care how simple the patch
> > is, I'd rather it was configurable to keep it out completely. That's
> > not just ugly, th
On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Tom Lane wrote:
> Vince Vielhaber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > But it doesn't need to affect anyone, even if it's enabled. Isn't
> > the lack of an @ just as good as an @ at the end of the username?
>
> No, because there isn
;-)
Here we go again. I thought you just said that the @ wouldn't be
something a user would have to do. I understood that to be any user.
It's back to ugly again.
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vote for
putting it in contrib and letting whoever wants it apply it and use it.
The more we discuss it the worse it looks.
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On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, Tom Lane wrote:
> Vince Vielhaber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > So are you calling for a vote or just willing to ask for one? I vote for
> > putting it in contrib and letting whoever wants it apply it and use it.
>
> The trouble with putting
On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, Tom Lane wrote:
> Lee Kindness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Vince Vielhaber writes:
> >>> [ 'user@' patch ]
> >>> whim. Then again as long as 7.2.1 is stable enough for me there's
> >>> no reason to upgra
On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, Ross J. Reedstrom wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 10:21:12AM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
>
> > RPMs aren't a good enough reason to put it in. All features aren't
> > installed in an RPM, why would this need to? Besides, anything that
> &g
d global users not having the @ you shot
it down as not possible?
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is exactly the wrong way to go.
Unsophisticated users is hardly a reason. After all they do have an
@ in their email address. If they're told the username is foo@ then
their username is foo@. What's so difficult about that?
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ode is bogus anyway.
> > The overflow at INT_MIN will clobber the stack, yes, but in an absolutely
> > predetermined way; an attacker will have no opportunity to insert code
> > of his choosing.
> >
> > regards, tom lane
>
>
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put the subdividing opaque fix in later?
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g before now - it seems I was told this
back in 6.3.something.
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Here's yet another. He claims malicious code can be run on the server
with this one.
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Tom Lane wrote:
> Vince Vielhaber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Here's yet another. He claims malicious code can be run on the server
> > with this one.
>
> regression=# select repeat('xxx',1431655765);
> server closed the
And another one. Sure would be nice if shit-for-brains would mention
it to us first.
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On 20 Aug 2002, Neil Conway wrote:
> Vince Vielhaber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Here's yet another.
>
> Should someone from the core team perhaps get in contact with this guy
> and ask if he could get in contact with the development team before
> public
On 20 Aug 2002, Neil Conway wrote:
> Vince Vielhaber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > And another one.
>
> This patch should fix the problem. Doesn't include my previous patch
> for repeat(). Again, somewhat off-the-cuff, so I might have missed
> something.
> > > used 'cvs remove' to remove the files themselves, so that the old branches
> > > (ie. if we do a v7.2.2, we need it) still have access to the code ...
> > >
> > > let me know if there are any problems ...
> > >
> > >
> > > ---
On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, Tatsuo Ishii wrote:
> Also I notice an announce for release 7.2.3
> appeaing on http://www.postgresql.org.
You do? Where?
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Lamar posted the info about 7.2.2 on bugtraq. I saw it.
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7; to this fixed IP address. It may take a few days for
> the IP to completely propogate.
Looks like someone already got it. I just got back into town and am
catching up.
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> > > ODBC driver, and I've just finished moving it over and removing it from
> > > the main tree ...
> > >
> > > 2 down ... so many more to go :)
> > >
> > >
> > > ---(end of broadcast)-
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> > > ---(end of broadcast)---
> > > TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
> >
> >
>
>
> ---(end of broadcast)---
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On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> > On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >
> > > I have moved my main computer to my new house. The DNS is still being
> > > updated, but the new IP address is:
> > >
> >
On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
> ignore if you see this ...
What if we don't see it?
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On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> %ls -lt ~ftp/pub/source/v7.3beta
Is this where you're putting it this time? Last time was ~ftp/pub/beta.
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s I get this tcl tool working.
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l lists at once with the unregister command
> > (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> >
>
>
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On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> >
> > > %ls -lt ~ftp/pub/source/v7.3beta
> >
> > Is this where you're putting it this time? Last time was ~ftp
On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> > On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I will work on that this month. It is part of the advocacy project.
> >
> > Since when?
>
> Since I decide to take ov
On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> > On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >
> > > Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > >
On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> I haven't see the beta announcement on the announce list. Do we
> announce it there?
I've been expecting it but haven't seen it yet.
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ro success in getting that tcl tool to work
which is the current holdup but I do have all the updates I know of
that are needed.
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, then let's go with a Sunday night packaging, Monday announce, so that
> we have beta2 testing starting right at the beginning of the week ...
>
>
>
> ---(end of broadcast)---
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> (s
en there, done that, didn't work. Too much of a job to keep track of
that many IP blocks too.
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On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Ross J. Reedstrom wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 03:59:33AM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> > On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Gavin Sherry wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, aski
r site and think they're 100% accurate. Nothing is
final until it's announced on the announce mailing list and/or
the main website.
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ivities in Congress (re. internet broadcasting), so
I want to get the new one up asap and before things bust loose again.
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On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Justin Clift wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Oleg,
> > >
> > > It's supposed to show roughly where everyone is.
> > >
> > >
On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Justin Clift wrote:
>
above url will show the notes and what they're in relation to with
a link to that particular piece of documentation.
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Right?
Don't see what you're complaining about. I get teh 7.2.1 admin guide.
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On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
> Gee. I didn't know that existed. We are probably better off doing it
> via mailing list so we can discuss the results.
What do you mean you didn't know it existed? It's been there for the
last few releases (since 7.1). You've even submitted to it!
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> > On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Gee. I didn't know that existed. We are probably better off doing it
> > > via mailing list so we can discuss the resul
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
> to be honest ... I forgot it was there too :(
Just means I'm gonna have to do a bunch of popup ads!
** ducking and running
>
> On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Bruce Momjian wro
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Are we ready for RC1 yet?
This is Tuesday, you can only ask on Fridays :)
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On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, Thomas Lockhart wrote:
> Just a quick note to mention that I've resigned from the PostgreSQL
> steering committee. It has been a lot of fun and very rewarding to
> participate in PostgreSQL development over the last six years, but it is
> time to take a break and to move on to
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:
> > Glad you liked it. But that doesn't change the fact that it obscured the
> > release to the point that many people didn't even know it was released.
> > I found out by folks complaining about broken links.
>
> Hrm - the subject said it all,
On 29 Nov 2002, Ryan Mahoney wrote:
> Scroll down and read the rest of, it's an excellent announcement! If
> the website and mirrors made mention of the release (as of 8:19PM CST
> they don't!) and the message was sent to all the mailing lists, there
> would probably be less confusion. When I re
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Tom Lane wrote:
> Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Has there been a release? It certainly hasn't been announced in the usual
> > places that I monitor.
>
> Marc claimed he'd put out the announcement on pgsql-announce, but that
> copy of the message never arriv
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:
> > > Marc claimed he'd put out the announcement on pgsql-announce, but that
> > > copy of the message never arrived here (it did show up on pgsql-general
> > > though). Evidently you and Vince never got it either ...
> >
> > After alot of searc
xury of a large
screen 'cuze I'm reading from a remote site with horrible resolution or
just an 80x25 screen.
>
> -------
>
> Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> > On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, Justin Clift wrote:
> Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > FYI, Vince, I started reading all my email (using elm) in a special 120
> > > column wide, 38 row xterm. There wa
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Neil Conway wrote:
> > On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 23:32, Justin Clift wrote:
> > > Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes it would. But while on the subject, why did you only mention it's
> > > >
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > FYI, Vince, I started reading all my email (using elm) in a special 120
> > > column wide, 38
On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Justin Clift wrote:
>
> > > Excellent. Are there any other people involved in PostgreSQL and
> > > universities or educational institutions? If so we could put something
> > > together about experiences for the advocacy Web site.
>
On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Dave Page wrote:
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Marc G. Fournier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 03 December 2002 19:12
> > To: Bruce Momjian
> > Cc: PostgreSQL-development
> > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Global
> > Development Group Announces
On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Dave Page wrote:
>
> > I could have sworn we used to have a bunch of ftp mirrors for downloads.
> > Come to think of it I rewrote/stole a load of Vince's PHP code to allow
> > you to select one from the portal recently. Are we not u
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
>
> > > Yup, as with doing anything for the firs ttime, the press release itself
> > > had its 'bugs' ... considering how many times Josh asked for comments on
> > >
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>
> > Marc G. Fournier writes:
> >
> > > Yup, as with doing anything for the firs ttime, the press release itself
> > > had its 'bugs' ... considering how many times Josh asked for comments on
> > > it, I'm s
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>
> > Justin Clift writes:
> >
> > > Of course we are, it's just that we're also trying to direct people to
> > > the Advocacy site where there is a lot more info, in a lot more languages.
> >
> > Why don't w
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Dave Page wrote:
>
> > I'll preempt the 'this was all discussed on -advocacy, you should have
> > been there' response with yet another agreement with Vince :-) - I too
> > am getting far too much mail these days and another list is
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> >
> > > That wasn't stronger, it was fluffier. It was full of buzzwords that
> > > were masking the actual content. Are you trying to hid
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> > Marc G. Fournier writes:
> >
> > > It isn't, but those working on -advocacy were asked to help come up with a
> > > stronger release *announcement* then we've had in the past ...
> >
> > Consider that a failed experiment. Post
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Robert Treat wrote:
> Well, my previous employer uses postgresql, but they were under constant
> assault from their clients to use oracle or db2. Technically there was no
> reason to switch, but if your choice is switch databases or go out of
> business, there really isn't muc
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Brian Knox wrote:
> Speaking from the perspective of a long time postgresql user, who
> currently has several very mission critical applications using postgresql
> on the back end, at a very large company...
>
> I can say the one consequence of the problem that I have run into
On 5 Dec 2002, Robert Treat wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 03:28, Dave Page wrote:
> > www is a closed group consisting of a few of us who actually do the work
> > on the sites.
>
> This is one of the primary reasons the sites are so fractured. We have 4
> different mailing lists for website devel
On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Dave,
>
> > >
> > > BTW, we do coordinate with the Website development group
> >
> > When did that happen then? I think I must have blinked :-)
>
> Marc and Justin are periodically keeping the Advocacy group informed
> of progress on wwwdevel, and we were
On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, Justin Clift wrote:
> Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> > On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Robert Treat wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Well, my previous employer uses postgresql, but they were under constant
> >>assault from their clients to use oracle or db2. Techni
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Justin Clift wrote:
> Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> > Because of this taken from the above quoted text:
> >
> > "they were under constant assault from their clients to use oracle or db2"
> >
> > Last I looked neither Oracle or DB2 were op
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