Re: [PHP-DEV] Language Auto Detection / www.php.net

2003-03-12 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> > > is there any chance that we can revert this annoying feature? > > > The translated documentation is always behind and partly lacks > > > important information from the english version. I want to read > > > the documentation in english (and I am not the only one). This > > > is only possible i

Re: [PHP-DEV] Language Auto Detection / www.php.net

2003-03-12 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> is there any chance that we can revert this annoying feature? > The translated documentation is always behind and partly lacks > important information from the english version. I want to read > the documentation in english (and I am not the only one). This > is only possible if I change the url a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Language Auto Detection / www.php.net

2003-03-10 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> > What browser denies you from setting this accept-language thing? > > You do have control over it, and it is far more general then > > having a cookie in the browser. Which is also not that flexible, > > as we would probably only store one language code. > > Gabor, the problem is that you can't

Re: [PHP-DEV] Language Auto Detection / www.php.net

2003-03-10 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> It detects upon the user-prefered language in the browser, hence > I don't have this problem as I prefer english in browser. > > But yes - if you prefer your native language in general, this can be > annoying especially since you don't have any control over it (like > with a cookie saving genera

Re: [PHP-DEV] Language Auto Detection / www.php.net

2003-03-10 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> is there any chance that we can revert this annoying feature? > The translated documentation is always behind and partly lacks > important information from the english version. I want to read > the documentation in english (and I am not the only one). This > is only possible if I change the url a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Language Auto Detection / www.php.net

2003-03-10 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> > I agree, this auto language detection is quite annoying... > > I concur, why not add a cookie which remembers the last chosen language? OK, I am not a php-dev member, so I have not read your mails. Can someone please summarize the problems or provide me with links to archived mails explaining

[PHP-DEV] Re: Apache 2.x / PHP 4.2.3 compatibility issue

2003-02-13 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> On your apache2 compatibility page you state > > "Apache 2.0 SAPI-support started with PHP 4.2.0. PHP 4.2.3 its known to > work in conjunction with Apache 2.0.39. Don't try to use this version of > PHP with any other version of Apache. We do not recommend to use PHP > 4.2.3 along with Apache

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: function.main

2003-02-13 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> > That is if I understand correctly a link in an error message. So either > > PHP needs to hide that link in error messages, or the function.main > > shortcut shuold point to somewhere on the homepage, explaining what is > > function.main > > speaking of the link feature: can't we deactiv

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: function.main

2003-02-13 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> It was fixed in that it will link to documention for include() > or require() (depending on the error) instead of main(). So, > it links to different yet more appropriate pages now. > > Not sure if/what other errors cause a link to here but I > agree we may as well create a dummy page for main

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: function.main

2003-02-12 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
what is function.main? it keeps popping up on my requires and links to = yoru site but nuthin' happens That is if I understand correctly a link in an error message. So either PHP needs to hide that link in error messages, or the function.main shortcut shuold point to somewhere on the homepage,

[PHP-DEV] Re: function.main

2003-02-12 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
what is function.main? it keeps popping up on my requires and links to = yoru site but nuthin' happens That is if I understand correctly a link in an error message. So either PHP needs to hide that link in error messages, or the function.main shortcut shuold point to somewhere on the homepage,

[PHP-DEV] Re: cvs checkout skip dir

2003-01-12 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> we could also just do a system("file $_"); or whatever to work out what kind > of file we're adding... and if it's a binary type file, then just don't > diff. Images and compressed files are not diffed. So if I update Mirrors-htdig.tgz then nobody can see what I have changed in the instructions

[PHP-DEV] Re: cvs checkout skip dir

2003-01-12 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> hmm. that is an interesting idea... hacking the dolog.pl script to publish > the diffs for large attachements instead of including them inline might not > be a bad thing (tm). Now, **no** cvs mails are sent regarding the distributions dir. It is skipped because the files are big. But diffs canno

[PHP-DEV] Re: cvs checkout skip dir

2003-01-12 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> I am actually pondering about removing distrobutions from phpweb, and moving > it to it's own cvs module, with slightly more heavier control over it. This > is to be a bit more secure over releases, and also it is usually not needed > during a checkout of phpweb. (if you're going to checkout phpw

[PHP-DEV] Re: http://www.php.net/extra/

2003-01-11 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> > Hi! > > > > Do the files hosted at $subj have any use now, or is there any point > > in hosting files from as far as 1997 or 1998? > > bindlib_w32.zip and win32build.zip are definitely still needed. Hm, it's quite interesting to see that packages from two or four years ago still work on Wind

[PHP-DEV] http://www.php.net/extra/

2003-01-11 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
Hi! Do the files hosted at $subj have any use now, or is there any point in hosting files from as far as 1997 or 1998? Thanks, Goba [php.net webmaster team] -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

[PHP-DEV] please add some more links to snaps.php.net

2002-12-17 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
Hi! It would be nice to add links to the latest aliases to the snaps.php.net main page. It seems that the aliases containing "latest" instead of the package / compile time are still in effect, so please add the links to them on the snaps page. Thanks, Goba -- PHP Development Mailing List

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Modules/Extensions not in 4.3

2002-11-30 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
Well, you raise some points ;) > Again, IMO, the madness of having no less than 3 different docu systems > (phpdoc, peardoc and peardoc2) makes very little sense; why not just use > "one system (tm)" for docs? (let's save some developer brain power for > more useful things). We talkes about this

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC]Apache 2 installation instructions

2002-10-29 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> > > As far as I can see, we should not not put into the PHP > > documentation > > > that Apache 2 is not production ready, but PHP is not > > production ready > > > for Apache 2. > > > > But it's incorrect :). By saying "Do not use Apache 2 and PHP in a > > production environment" you don't

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Apache 2 installation instructions

2002-10-29 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> > 1. It's not production ready > > Ah yes - but that will contradict greatly, to "the best version yet" marketing > trick the Apache Group is advertising on their front page. > We can mention it to users, in the bug db etc. But officially documenting, that > Apache 2 is really a beta product, do

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Apache 2 installation instructions

2002-10-28 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> The aspect people complaining about is more a version thingie, e.g. > they try to set up php 4.2.3 with apache 2.0.43 and this could not > succeed. Is it really necessary to document that apache 2.03x works > only with php 4.2.x1, php4.2.x2 and apache 2.04x only with php4.2y1 > or php4.2.y2? It s

[PHP-DEV] Apache 2 installation instructions

2002-10-26 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
Hi! We receive many complaints at [EMAIL PROTECTED] about failures in setting up PHP with Apache 2. Can somebody please update the documentation with details on Apache 2 on Linux and Windows, or provide information for the documentation team to add to the documentation. It would definitely help us

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] iconv-extension

2002-10-08 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
What php-dev guys think about this? Goba - Original Message - From: "Friedhelm Betz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 12:06 PM Subject: [PHP-DOC] iconv-extension > > Sources state iconv extensions as experimental. Is this (still) correct? >

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Error List...

2002-10-05 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> > IMHO if anyone gets on this job, general errors should > > be put somewhere to an appendix, and function specific > > errors should go to every function ;) Like what errors > > mail() can emit. This is a *huge* work as I can see. > > This sounds good, can this process be at > least parti

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV]php_error_docref

2002-08-14 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> >| Erm - good point we cannot find "pecl.function.name" automatically by > >| docref=NULL. Either pecl must be available by "function.name" or by > >| just using "name" on php.net. This is also a problem for external copies > >| of the manual. > > > >PECL, PEAR and other functions won't be avail

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV]php_error_docref

2002-08-14 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> > Then there is only the last argument not spoken about yet: > > Externally developed extensions. >and PECL extensions respectively. For external developed extensions I suggest >putting them into PECL (at least the documentation, if there are license >issues about the extension's code itself) an

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] php_error_docref

2002-08-13 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
>php_error_docref("function.fopen" TSRMLS_CC, E_WARNING, "Spongebob Square >Pants lives in a pineapple under the sea"); > >To me that should be the recommended method, as it will allow the php.ini >values for language to override everything nicely, and everyone can see >the PHP manual in their des

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Fwd: Re: [PHP-DEV] filesystem security questions

2002-06-12 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> Can someone please help out Wez? ;) I don't really know what streams are about [it's not documented ;)], so if it's a new extension, Wez can start with copy-pasting one extensions documentation (see phpdoc/en/reference/ANY_EXTENSION_NAME). The XML files are quite self descriptive, so the tags t

[PHP-DEV] Re: 4.2.1 download missing Apache2 experimental folder

2002-05-24 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
Forwarding this to php-dev. Those guys can answer your question... Goba [one [EMAIL PROTECTED]] - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 5:28 PM Subject: 4.2.1 download missing Apache2 experimental folder > Referring to... > > >

[PHP-DEV] Re: news.php.net rss requires encoding type, doesnt parse as XML in IE

2002-05-02 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> An invalid character was found in text content. Error processing > resource 'http://news.php.net/group.php?group=php.general&format=rss'. Line > 95, Position 78 > > with line 95 being > > José_león_serna > > Its the accent on the e and o's

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-EVANGELISM] RE: [PHP-DEV] The PHP Platform

2002-04-16 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> It has been mentioned before -- "what is there left to do to PHP?" -- and I > believe that we could just fix up all the bugs left, and then work on > writing add-ons in pecl or pear. Really, lets stop turning this language > into bloat-ware with all the latest plugins and gadgets (that make othe

Re: [PHP-DEV] Apache 2 news

2002-04-11 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> > Please post a notice to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are ready with > > the full Apache 2 compatibilty, and it will be available in some > > release of PHP. A new news item in this case would be nice, to > > announce a milestone in the php-apache front, especially regarding > > *security*. > > Wh

[PHP-DEV] Apache 2 news

2002-04-11 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
Hi! Please post a notice to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are ready with the full Apache 2 compatibilty, and it will be available in some release of PHP. A new news item in this case would be nice, to announce a milestone in the php-apache front, especially regarding *security*. Thanks, Goba -- P

[PHP-DEV] list of php.net sites

2002-03-23 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
Hi! It would be nice to have a list of php.net sites available online at http://php.net/sites.php linked from the uppper menu on all pages. I only know a few, and never used bonsai.php.net or lxr.php.net, as I am not part of the development team. So it would be nice from some guys, who can put u

[PHP-DEV] Fw: PHP 4.1.2 zip package [5,824Kb] - 12 March 2002

2002-03-15 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
Khm... - Original Message - From: "Preiß, Sebastian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 8:58 AM Subject: PHP 4.1.2 zip package [5,824Kb] - 12 March 2002 > Note: This File (PHP 4.1.2 zip package [5,824Kb] - 12 March 2002) seems to > include PHP/4.1.3

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.1.2 for windows

2002-03-10 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
AFAIK "Why not?" === "Why they are not required?" But regardless of this, we should either declare on the website, that they are not required, or release that version. As Zeev pointed out again, it will be available sometime in the future. Goba > As far as I see Rasmus says :"They aren't really

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.1.2 for windows

2002-03-10 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> AFAIK the problem is not afecting windows users. Because of that there is no windows binary. AFAIK it affect Windows. Forwarded letter from Zeev: - Original Message - From: "Zeev Suraski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Rasm

[PHP-DEV] PHP 4.1.2 for windows

2002-03-10 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
Hi! >From hour to hour we receive questions at [EMAIL PROTECTED] about the availability of PHP 4.1.2 for Windows. First I tried to give an estimate, but now I don't know what to say. Will there ever be a PHP 4.1.2 for windows, or a 4.1.3??? Guys are waiting for the security fix... Why to kick ou

[PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 4.1.2 installer?

2002-03-01 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> Could you direct me to where I can find the PHP 4.1.2 installer for windows > or is it not available yet? If it would be available we would have put up a download link. Please wait for the guys to compile and pack it up. Goba [one [EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- PHP Development Mailing List

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Tabs Vs Spaces (and other coding styles)

2002-02-05 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> >have we ever decided on this? in our code do we go for tabs or spaces? Is > >there a style guide anywhere on this? > Tabs, they've been used historically. As this was crossposted to phpdoc, I consider it a question for phpdoc too. We use one space for XML indentation and 4 spaces for PHP code

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: ZE repositories

2002-02-05 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> At 10:32 AM 2/5/2002, Derick Rethans wrote: > >Under which ugly licence is it now? =) I'm all for make sure these are > >compatible, so that the two repositories caan be merged. > > GPL, I believe? It's GPL. We also have a LICENSE file in the root of the phpdoc repository to make this clear fo

Re: [PHP-DEV] new php.net shortcuts

2002-02-03 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> > > On a related note, www.php.net needs a nasty popup > > > that says "Choose a mirror!!!" ;) > > > > This is for a long time on our TODO list. Actually > > a nice automatic mirror chooser, and advice box > > would be good, and not an annoying popup box IMHO. > > This will be a nice system.

Re: [PHP-DEV] new php.net shortcuts

2002-02-03 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> > $CUSTOM_SHORTCUTS = array ( > > 'ini' => 'configuration', > > 'windows' => 'install.windows', > > 'install' => 'installation' > > How about starting an archive of terms posted into > the php.net search box. This will make for some > good data which will eventually provide info to >

[PHP-DEV] diff style bug update headers

2002-02-03 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
Hi! I would like to propose a diff like bug update header style, so to use ID: 15357 Updated by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Status: Open +Status: Closed Bug Type: Documentation problem Operating System: Win XP PHP

[PHP-DEV] new php.net shortcuts

2002-02-03 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
Hi! As all you know, we have php.net shortcuts for manual pages, so php.net/exit go to the exit() function page, etc. As one of the php.net webmasters I realized, that we also give php.net webpage addresses so often to people like php.net/downloads.php, php.net/links.php or php.net/support.php.

[PHP-DEV] config options / php.ini settings

2002-01-15 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
Hi! We just noticed a major problem in the docs, and so we would like to invent a new name for php.ini settings. Now look at http://www.php.net/manual/en/install.configure.php and http://www.php.net/manual/en/configuration.php pages I am sure that it is confusing for people, to have two complet

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] superglobals and bc

2002-01-13 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> > The question is to check for $_GET [isset($_GET)] or phpversion() > > > 4.1.0 [version_compare() is the function for that thing :)]. > > > > Well, you are right, that if we are < 4.1.0, you can do: > > > > fake.php?_GET[a]=b&_GET[c]=d > > > > so my idea may not be that good :) > > Yep

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] superglobals and bc

2002-01-13 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> > > > I mean, you could check php_version() and stick in some extract() calls > > > > for older versions wherever you use the superglobals, but that seems > > > > rather ugly. > > > > > > Some really want it, let's define the most efficient/least ugly types of > > > hacks :) For example with ge

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] superglobals and bc

2002-01-13 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> > session_start(); > if(ini_get('register_globals') AND !isset($session_global_var)){ > $session_global_var = array(); > } > > session_register('session_global_var'); > > if(ini_get('register_globals')){ > $SESSION =& $session_global_var; > }else{ > $SESSION =& $HTTP_SESSION_VARS['session_gl

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] superglobals and bc

2002-01-13 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> > I mean, you could check php_version() and stick in some extract() calls > > for older versions wherever you use the superglobals, but that seems > > rather ugly. > > Some really want it, let's define the most efficient/least ugly types of > hacks :) For example with get, checking phpversion,

[PHP-DEV] PHP 4.1.1 for win

2002-01-03 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
Hi! As the new year is over now, can someone be so kind to compile and release a PHP 4.1.1 for windows? Please also make the windows file names reflect the "standards". Thanks, Goba -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] [IMPORTANT] wishes for php ...

2001-12-30 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> Ah, and btw, that's what we've the documentation team for, no? Well, no php-dev people is engaged to know DocBook XML, the doc building process, or translation related things. No phpdoc people engaged to know C, some know very few C, or have no experience with C at all. I have seen a note

[PHP-DEV] Fw: php downloads

2001-12-27 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
Hi! Forwarding this request to php-dev, where people make the packages :) Goba [one [EMAIL PROTECTED]] - Original Message - From: "Alexei Saveliev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:13 PM Subject: php downloads > Hello Webmaster, > > I

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Fw: Typos?

2001-12-27 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> > At phpdoc, we have an automation, putting () after every function > > tag we use, so eg echo will print out echo() > > and not echo. This is one handy customization of the style sheets > > we use. We'll on the machine, where that zend stuff was developed, > > this customization was not there.

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Fw: Typos?

2001-12-27 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> > Anyway, this is a doc problem. Forwarded to PHP-DOC. > > Are you sure? Are the official ZendAPI docs suddenly in the > /phpdoc cvs tree? Couldn't find them there ... IMHO they're > still at zend.com and beside me no one hasn't updated them > for a while. At phpdoc, we have an

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Please read. session.xml

2001-12-15 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> Does anyone mind if I update session.xml? > I would like to prevent flood of bug reports. > Thank you. Update as you see fit. Goba -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact th

[PHP-DEV] Re: phpweb / downloads.php

2001-12-12 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> + - 12 > > + - 12 Are there any plans to make the windows binary file names standard... So eg. php-4.1.0-installer.exe sor something alike. It would be really nice :) Thanks, Goba -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additi

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: right path on WinXP to document

2001-11-11 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> > > > > Nope... at least, that's not what I've heard. > > > > > Windows 2000 uses c:\winnt (for php.ini) and c:\winnt\system32 (for > > > > > php4ts.dll) > > > > > Windows XP uses c:\windows and c:\windows\system32 > > > > > > > > Hm, this may well be, since I 'just' updated the system from Wi

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: right path on WinXP to document

2001-11-11 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
> > > Nope... at least, that's not what I've heard. > > > Windows 2000 uses c:\winnt (for php.ini) and c:\winnt\system32 (for > > > php4ts.dll) > > > Windows XP uses c:\windows and c:\windows\system32 > > > > Hm, this may well be, since I 'just' updated the system from Windows > > 2000 to Wind

[PHP-DEV] right path on WinXP to document

2001-11-11 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
Hi! As written in the PHP weekly summary on zend.com: | Sebastian Bergmann has confirmed that he can successfully | compile and install PHP on his Windows XP setup. As of | this week, XP will be added to the list of platforms that | PHP works on. As noone added it to the manual till now, I am j