Re: Struts can't "get its act together" - JavaPro

2003-06-19 Thread Ted Husted
Don Brown wrote: Rumor has it IDEA is working on a C# version :) They are at least planning one, at least if you believe the IntelliJ CTO: http://www.freeroller.net/page/gstamp/20030427 -T. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

RE: Struts can't "get its act together" - JavaPro

2003-06-13 Thread Don Brown
hing is they are > >succeeding and are getting their applications to the users faster and > >management has noticed. > > > >Glenn > > > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Chris Gerrard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Friday, June 13,

RE: Struts can't "get its act together" - JavaPro

2003-06-13 Thread David Graham
OTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:48 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: RE: Struts can't "get its act together" - JavaPro Glenn, I'm continuously unimpressed by the implicit assumption that "Developer Productivity" == "GUI construction". The blind ac

Re: Struts can't "get its act together" - JavaPro

2003-06-13 Thread Vic Cekvenich
Friday, June 13, 2003 1:48 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: RE: Struts can't "get its act together" - JavaPro Glenn, I'm continuously unimpressed by the implicit assumption that "Developer Productivity" == "GUI construction". The blind acceptance of this

RE: Struts can't "get its act together" - JavaPro

2003-06-13 Thread Chris Gerrard
ll be able to see it, understand it, and be able to explain it to the business world. Chris -Original Message- From: Chris Gerrard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:48 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: RE: Struts can't "get its act together" - J

RE: Struts can't "get its act together" - JavaPro

2003-06-13 Thread Davidson, Glenn
y, June 13, 2003 1:48 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: RE: Struts can't "get its act together" - JavaPro Glenn, I'm continuously unimpressed by the implicit assumption that "Developer Productivity" == "GUI construction". The blind acceptance of this ho

RE: Struts can't "get its act together" - JavaPro

2003-06-13 Thread Chris Gerrard
Glenn, I'm continuously unimpressed by the implicit assumption that "Developer Productivity" == "GUI construction". The blind acceptance of this hoary old chestnut has been a huge impediment to real progress in developing better systems. Given that the rapid construction of a UI is a good thin

RE: Struts can't "get its act together" - JavaPro

2003-06-12 Thread James Holmes
right direction for Java tools. -James Struts Console http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/ -Original Message- From: Igor Shabalov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 6:15 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Struts can't "get its act together"

Re: Struts can't "get its act together" - JavaPro

2003-06-12 Thread Vic Cekvenich
essage- From: Davidson, Glenn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:34 PM To: 'Struts Developers List' Subject: RE: Struts can't "get its act together" - JavaPro James, Your site is most helpful, thanks. I was wondering if you had any additional details

Re: Struts can't "get its act together" - JavaPro

2003-06-12 Thread Igor Shabalov
CTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:34 PM To: 'Struts Developers List' Subject: RE: Struts can't "get its act together" - JavaPro James, Your site is most helpful, thanks. I was wondering if you had any additional details on potential JSF developer products and/or any idea

Re: Struts can't "get its act together" - JavaPro

2003-06-12 Thread Mark Lowe
I have 2 words to say about the .NET stuff "Springfield monorail" On Wednesday, Jun 11, 2003, at 20:14 Europe/London, Davidson, Glenn wrote: Chris, I tend to agree with your assessment of JavaPro but I'd like to open this up a little. Right now we are faced with two choices for web developme

RE: Struts can't "get its act together" - JavaPro

2003-06-11 Thread James Holmes
JavaServerFaces/ -James Struts Console http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/ -Original Message- From: Davidson, Glenn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:34 PM To: 'Struts Developers List' Subject: RE: Struts can't "get its act together" - J

Re: Struts can't "get its act together" - JavaPro

2003-06-11 Thread Vic Cekvenich
Struts is MUCH more productive, and I would be glad to show you, how using Struts with OO, you can code circles around. (I also offer the training w/ money back- excuse the sales talk) I just want to show you that most of my clients choose J2EE over .NET because it is more productive and more sc

RE: Struts can't "get its act together" - JavaPro

2003-06-11 Thread Davidson, Glenn
more about. Glenn -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:19 PM To: 'Struts Developers List' Subject: RE: Struts can't "get its act together" - JavaPro I'd recommend you have a look at JavaServer Face

RE: Struts can't "get its act together" - JavaPro

2003-06-11 Thread James Holmes
ces: http://www.jamesholmes.com/JavaServerFaces/ -James Struts Console http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/ -Original Message- From: Davidson, Glenn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:15 PM To: 'Struts Developers List' Subject: RE: Struts can't "get its act

RE: Struts can't "get its act together" - JavaPro

2003-06-11 Thread Davidson, Glenn
Chris, I tend to agree with your assessment of JavaPro but I'd like to open this up a little. Right now we are faced with two choices for web development .Net or not .Net. I can over-simplify the arguments for and against .Net as the following: .NET Pluses Developer Productivity Negatives Vendor