d McCann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 7:46 PM
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Subject: Re: t-and-f: believe it or not
The sport has changed with professionalization. In large part is reflects
the different reasons why sprinters and distance runners
compete. Sprinters are i
, August 30, 2001 7:23 AM
To: Gerald Woodward; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: t-and-f: believe it or not
Gerald wrote:
>
> Obea's problem was that he got mixed up with the wrong crowd, and they
> messed up his mind. He also got hurt for the first time and did not
At 09:09 PM 8/30/2001 -0400, malmo wrote:
>Distance runners time investment versus that of sprinters? Distance
>running, of all events in track, requires the LEAST amount of time
>investment. Few sports besides running, if any, can one become one of
>the best in the world on just two hours a day.
set their
> WRs: Viren,
> Rono, Aouita, ElG, Morcelli, Cram, Coe, Geb, Komen (he was 21
> I believe!),
> Kimombwa.
>
> Richard McCann
> >Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:06:02 -0600 (MDT)
> >From: "P.F.Talbot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: t-and-f: b
At 04:45 PM 8/30/01 -0700, Richard McCann wrote:
>BTW, if you look at the average of past distance world record holders, I
>think you'll find that at least after 1960 (the true modern era), they
>have been much younger than you might think. I'm skating without data
>here, but I think the fol
following folks were under 25 when they set their WRs: Viren,
Rono, Aouita, ElG, Morcelli, Cram, Coe, Geb, Komen (he was 21 I believe!),
Kimombwa.
Richard McCann
>Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:06:02 -0600 (MDT)
>From: "P.F.Talbot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: t-and-f: b
<<< Also, Shorter was 24 when he won Olympic Gold in the marathon correct
(and
was 5th in the Olympic 10,000m)? He arguably improved little if any after
that time (though he did dominate the sport for years at his peak).
>>>
Well ... nobody can argue with that ... that proves it. Distance runne
Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: t-and-f: believe it or not
In a message dated Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:18:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
"Mcewen, Brian T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Distance running and sprinting are different sports,
Also, Shorter was 24 when he won Olympic Gold in the marathon correct (and
was 5th in the Olympic 10,000m)? He arguably improved little if any after
that time (though he did dominate the sport for years at his peak).
On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, Ed & Dana Parrot wrote:
> > Hmm, let's see. 30-year-old C
In a message dated Thu, 30 Aug 2001 1:43:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Mcewen, Brian
T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> A: "historical avg" would stretch back farther than 15 years.>>
actually, it wouldn't, becuase the nature of the sport has changed so drastically in
that period of time. Befo
> Hmm, let's see. 30-year-old Carl Lewis set his first record in the 100,
was succceeded by 27-year-old Leroy Burrell who was suceeded by 28-year-old
Donovan Bailey. MJ set the 200 record at 28, the 400 record (finally) at 30.
>
> Meanwhile, Geb holds the 5K and 10K marks set when he was 25.
And
In a message dated Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:18:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Mcewen, Brian
T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Distance running and sprinting are different sports, not just different
> events. Check the historical average of distance record holders and sprint
> rec. holders .>>
Hmm, le
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>Subject: Re: t-and-f: believe it or not
>Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 07:23:08 -0700
>
>Gerald wrote:
>
> >
> > Obea's problem was that he got mixed up with the wrong crowd, and they
> > messed up his mind. H
Gerald wrote:
>
> Obea's problem was that he got mixed up with the wrong crowd, and they
> messed up his mind. He also got hurt for the first time and did not know
> how to deal with a serious injury. He tried to come back too soon and
> reinjured himself. His confidence has been destroyed. I
>From: "Mcewen, Brian T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Obea Moore? Brendan Christian? Bill Miller?
>The 400m? The vault?
>
>You guys know better. For Chrissakes David, YOU ARE a distance runner!
>
>Saying that lots of legitimate 16-year-olds or 19-year-olds were able >to
>run XX.XX or jump XX.XX in
ckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 5:59 PM
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Subject: Re: t-and-f: believe it or not
gh wrote:
> Brian McEwen writes:
>>Tell me that you believe a 16 year old can run 8:19 or 27:43 (as the
records would have you believe) and I will sh
s, don't forget that running at
such a young age while you are still growing may affect the body in a more
beneficial way than starting at 14 or 15.
M
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>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: t-and-f: believe it or no
Obviously some, if not many, of the African Juniors of the past 15 years have not been
juniors. Moses Kiptanui was definitely not 19 back in '91. There was NO WAY that Addis
Abebe was 19 back in '89. Dude had a receding hairline (Okay, so did the Mastalir's in
high school, but that's different)
gh wrote:
> Brian McEwen writes:
>>Tell me that you believe a 16 year old can run 8:19 or 27:43 (as the
records would have you believe) and I will shut >> up.
>No, i don't believe it. But then, I don't believe anybody of any age can
run 12:39 or 26:22 either!
>
> How do you think the rest of the
GH,
I was there when Obea ran it! I also followed his career from Age Group T&F
through his high school years. He ran and my nephew competed in a lot of
the same meets, except that my nephew is a few years older than Obea. I
also know Obea's mother very well. We sat and talked at many of Obea
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