Re: [OSM-talk] Combined bicycle & footway

2011/8/21 Richard Fairhurst : > Tomas Straupis wrote: >> I would like such combined ways to indicate that they are >> created for BOTH cyclists and walkers (especially then this >> would include segregated ones). > > They do indicate that. That's what the blue dots mean. > > A better suggestion wou

Re: [OSM-talk] What does this symbol mean?

2011/8/6 Nathan Edgars II : >> There is 7 lift gates, one after the other, on a motorway? > > It's a ramp to a reversible lane that's only open at certain times of the > day. Look at the Bing aerial. Yes, I can understand that there is a lift gate, but 7 in a row, which you have to pass one after

Re: [OSM-talk] What does this symbol mean?

2011/8/5 Nathan Edgars II : > On 8/5/2011 5:31 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/54459361 >> What is that symbol that appears along the way? > > Never mind - I hadn't noticed that the nodes were tagged barrier=lift_gate. There is 7 lift gates, one after the ot

Re: [OSM-talk] Id stability

2011/8/2 Ian : > On Tuesday, August 2, 2011 10:14:13 AM UTC-5, Gregor Horvath wrote: >> Now if this node (point on a map) is replaced with another one by a >> fellow mapper (for whatever reason), I think it would be a progress if >> ID 1381574156 points to the new node instead of vanishing. > Who o

[OSM-talk] API misuse at Flickr, WAS: Id stability

2011/8/1 Toby Murray : > Flickr does this too, by the way: > http://code.flickr.com/blog/2009/09/28/thats-maybe-a-bit-too-dorky-even-for-us/ according to this blog entry from 2009 Flickr is using the main API to get tag information of OSM objects. Isn't this a misuse of the API which should be re

Re: [OSM-talk] Commenting and thumbs up/down feature for changesets

2011/7/28 Frederik Ramm : > > I hope that I'll soon be able to set up a prototype of this feature and then > we can all look at it together and we'll have a much better idea how it > feels in practice. depending on how the mapper structures his work it might also often be desirable to have more g

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of official names Re: shortened names

2011/7/28 Kay Drangmeister : > Yup, my favourite is Europe's most important country: > http://osm.org/go/0B2j- > covering the country name for UK, Germany, and other nearby countries :-D If you're referring to Belgium: they actually do have 3 official names. Not sure how to deal "correctly" with

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of official names Re: shortened names

2011/7/28 Joseph Reeves : >>4. although the tag name is used by Mapnik and others, please don't fulfill >> the tag "name" for the renderers > > Likewise, my favourite annoyance tagging a place name with the English and > the Arabic [1]: This is IMHO a hint where we could improve the rendering to

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of official names Re: shortened names

2011/7/28 Nathan Edgars II : > Then the process for finding the name would need to include traveling the > entire length of the road and looking at each sign. Because of sign > inconsistency, one would end up with parallel streets, some abbreviated and > some not. Because of sign inconsistency ma

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of official names Re: shortened names

2011/7/28 Colin Smale : > It sounds like there are three types of street name: > 1) Official, as decided by the Powers That Be > 2) Signed, as displayed on the signs > 3) Colloquial, as people habitually use > > So which one do we put in "name=*", and what do we do with the others? 1) should gene

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011/7/28 Richard Mann : > "name" is what is on (the majority of) the signs name is the name. Or what would be the name if the sign-majority was defined and there were 2 differing signs? nil? Or if there was 1 sign and that was spellt wrong? Signs are indices, but they contain errors and bugs lik

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

...but the point is that here the name seems to be "St Albans" so why should we be the only ones to expand it? cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011/7/27 Kay Drangmeister : > Am 27.07.2011, 12:01 Uhr, schrieb Richard Fairhurst : >> >> every native English speaker would >> pronunce St in that context as 'saint'. That, to me, is a pretty >> conclusive >> argument that we should tag "St". > > Alas, and in German "St" abbreviates "Sankt" (whic

Re: [OSM-talk] lat and lon in the db

2011/7/27 Kenneth Gonsalves : > on querying the db, I get the lat and lon of a particular place as: > lat 145921624 lon 864071554 > > but the map shows the correct figures: > lat 12.9954832  lon 77.6208684 I guess these coordinates are the same, the first are the coordinates in your projection th

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011/7/26 Richard Fairhurst : > Mind you, British English orthography is also that Martin has an "a" in it, > not a "∡". ;) Hello Rich∡rd, orthography doesn't apply to names, but Martin as my name is, has indeed no ∡ in it. I just put it there on a whim. Interestingly humans don't have a problem

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011/7/26 Robin Paulson : > does anyone here know what st albans in uk is actually called then? > > i've been told it's st albans, not saint albans as i 'corrected' it to I think it is actually written "St Albans" as stated above. cheers, Martin ___ t

Re: [OSM-talk] mapnik bug? construction bridge site (over the water)

2011/7/18 Thomas Davie : > At least in my mental model of how rendering is expected to work, layer= > should have priority over *all* other rendering order stuff. then you can file a ticket for the mapnik OSM-style. The makers of that style have decided to ignore the layer tags in some cases, e.

Re: [OSM-talk] Orphaned Relations

2011/7/18 Richard Fairhurst : > If you really care about empty relations, you are welcome to submit a patch > to P2 that automatically deletes relations when they're set to 0 members > (and undeletes them if you undo that action), of course! you could have empty relations (no own members) with ta

Re: [OSM-talk] Commenting and thumbs up/down feature for changesets

2011/7/13 Dave F. : > On 11/07/2011 22:42, Frederik Ramm wrote: >>   I just stumbled across a changeset where someone helpfully added a >> "toilet:access=customers" to 1350 pubs in the Greeater London area (thereby >> adding no information but freshening the time stamp of the objects, giving >> the

Re: [OSM-talk] Orphaned Relations

2011/7/17 Sarah Hoffmann : > Question remains what to do with the existing orphaned relations. > Is there any legimate use for them or would it be save to simply > delete them all? I would ask the last editors to verify them, and let them delete those in the case they are not needed. I suspect th

Re: [OSM-talk] Topo Pirineos - or lots of new material to trace/import in the Pyrenees

2011/7/9 Felix Hartmann : > As we're > still under CCBYSA 2.0, people can use it to trace rivers and trails to OSM > :-) while the data is still distributed under cc-by-ca you cannot enter data any more in cc-by-sa only. All current contributions most also be compatible with odbl and the ct.

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011/7/7 Jochen Topf : > On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 03:35:07PM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote: >> is there any consensus on shortening of parts of names?... >> i was under the impression consensus was to type the full word, then >> renderers would shorten where necessary? apparently some mappers >> disagr

Re: [OSM-talk] adding multiple relations (bus routes) to one road

2011/7/6 Pieren : > The alternative is to put the intersection nodes and end-nodes of the route. > This has the big advantage that ways are not split any more for some > abstract features like "routes" (and you don't have to add a 2nd relation to > rebuild the road). But it has the disadvantage tha

Re: [OSM-talk] Sister Projects

2011/7/5 Matthias Meisser : > Am Dienstag, den 05.07.2011, 19:48 +0200 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: >> Maybe we can also open a discussion about this "related projects" >> list. IMHO googlemapmaker - although having a similar approach - is >> not "related to

Re: [OSM-talk] Sister Projects

2011/7/5 Frederik Ramm : > Maybe we should simply have a link "Related Projects" pointing to > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Related_Project in this location? Maybe we can also open a discussion about this "related projects" list. IMHO googlemapmaker - although having a similar approach - is

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Emitter

While I think that this is generally not a bad idea, I'd still expect that the data has not the average positional quality OSM usually has. Martijn van Exel gave a talk at Wherecamp-EU in Berlin about the same topic (twitter to osm) and in the following discussion the consensus was towards a interm

Re: [OSM-talk] Featured mapping, parks

2011/7/4 Josh Doe : > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:21 AM, colliar wrote: >> >> Am 04.07.2011 02:09, schrieb Josh Doe: >> > >> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=38.76211&lon=-77.29749&zoom=15&layers=M >> > >> > (Burke Lake P

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple versions of same node in changeset

2011/6/25 Frederik Ramm : > If you're editing in a place where you have reason to believe that you're > not the only one, uploading often isn't too bad a habit - reduces the > likelihood of conflicts! Yes, but is there a point of doing this within the same changeset? Cheers, Martin

Re: [OSM-talk] the map on osm.org - airstrips showing only at zoom 10

2011/6/25 John Smith : > Wasn't there some discussion about that before, how important airports > such as LAX should show sooner than regional airports which should > show up sooner than grass airstrips. Yes, the discussions and proposals are endless for this. Suggestions are usually that you sho

Re: [OSM-talk] License/CT issues: Let's not punish the world's disadvantaged, pls.

2011/6/23 Tobias Knerr : > "If you distribute [...] any Derivative Works or Collective Works, You > must keep intact all copyright notices for the Work and give the > Original Author credit reasonable to the medium or means [...]. > -- Tobias Knerr I understand from this that the individual cont

Re: [OSM-talk] Can I say "yes" to the ODbL if I can't account for 100% of my data?

2011/6/17 Steve Bennett : > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:00 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer > Source is disputed? By whom? I've never heard any dispute about it? I > put a source tag on every single object I create, and try and update > it when I modify it. It is not completely useless bu

Re: [OSM-talk] Can I say "yes" to the ODbL if I can't account for 100% of my data?

2011/6/16 Toby Murray : > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 4:37 AM, Graham Stewart (GrahamS) > wrote: >> >> and that the source tag is certainly recommended, but not enforced. > > There is no such thing as an "enforced tag" in OSM. If you choose not > to use a tag then that is your choice. Not using a sour

Re: [OSM-talk] Question about contributor terms and derived contributions

2011/6/16 Andreas Perstinger : > If there is just *one* single object near your way which isn't based on a > ccbysa node/way, then you could always argue IMHO that you've measured the > location of your way from this object (JOSM has a measurement tool with you > can use for distances and angles).

Re: [OSM-talk] Issues with OSM import to postgis

2011/6/13 Zolt Egete : > C:\Users\z.egete\tmp\osm2pgsql>osm2pgsql -U postgres -S default.style -d gisa > -H 10.1.1.63 D:\planet-100127.osm osm2pgsql SVN version 0.69-21289M > I have tried with (-s, -u as well separately and have used -C 3000 at one > time but no success) > Any hint about it ? Th

Re: [OSM-talk] Issues with OSM import to postgis

the official site should work: http://planet.openstreetmap.org/ the latest is this: http://planet.openstreetmap.org/planet-latest.osm.bz2 and the md5 is here: http://planet.openstreetmap.org/planet-latest.osm.bz2.md5 cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing lis

Re: [OSM-talk] Issues with OSM import to postgis

2011/6/13 Zolt Egete : > Hello > > Thank you for the quick reply > I will give it a try without the -u option not to use the UTF-8 sanitize and > will let you know the results as soon as I have some > > As far as other map files are concerned I have downloaded a few ones but > this is the only one

Re: [OSM-talk] Issues with OSM import to postgis

2011/6/13 Zolt Egete : > Are there any alternatives to osm2pgsql maybe something that ? There are alternatives to osm2pgsql (e.g. imposm, osmosis) but they do not do the same thing so it depends what you want to do with your database (which scheme you want to have) which you should choose. Actua

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing Maps are amazing.

2011/6/13 Stephan Knauss : > needs Silverlight that is really amazing... I don't have silverlight so I only get their dumb standard map... cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering error on Mapnik

2011/6/9 Saphy Mo : > I think you are right. > What should I do? Can I avoid all shapefile and use just only information as > OSM in the database? > Or should I wait until better shapefile will be accessible? First thing would be to check the coastline, if it still has this error or was corrected

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering error on Mapnik

2011/6/9 Hendrik Oesterlin : > There is a rendering error in India > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=13.01&lon=75.31&zoom=8&layers=M > > screenshot at http://oesterlin.ile.nc/div/mapnik_error.png > > I did not figure out the reason for this. I guess this is a problem in the current coastline

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace & Co.

2011/6/7 Lester Caine : > Perfect example of something that should be possible to implement as a > completely separate database, but which can overlay any other OSM data? +1 cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.open

Re: [OSM-talk] Scholarship program to State of the Map 2011

2011/6/3 Richard Welty : > for countries in the visa waiver program (most (all?) of the EU, > Japan, South Korea, Australia, others, see link below) visas > are not required, but an ESTA (Electronic System for Travel > Authorization) is. +1, you need an electronic passport (RFID) with biometric d

Re: [OSM-talk] Better Bing imagery in Potlatch?

2011/5/30 colliar : >> Yes, that did the trick for mee too. It was on 17. > > Maybe a ticket on josm trac asking for a high default level would be useful. +1, in some urban areas the zoom goes up to level 21. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@

Re: [OSM-talk] Bridge relation on way going under?

2011/5/29 Borbus : > I think a much more useful application than those suggested already is > to identify all of the bridges that cross over a way.  It's easy to find > all of the ways that go under a way, but what use is that?  It's quite > important for waterways in general to be able to find eve

Re: [OSM-talk] Tracks and there place in society

2011/5/21 Greg Troxel : > That said, highway= implies that the object is a public or private way > (US terms, but usable by the public), except for highway=service and > highway=track. actually a highway=* is any kind of way, and access by the public might only be implied if no other access is t

Re: [OSM-talk] Unlicensed use of the logo in iPhone app?

2011/5/19 Russ Nelson : > Thomas Davie writes: >  > On 18 May 2011, at 07:04, Russ Nelson wrote: >  > > can Ken assign copyright in the logo to OSMF. >  > >  > He can, but I see no reason why he should (other than if he >  > particularly wants to).  The point of the licensing of this project >  > i

[OSM-talk] Banner for SOTM-EU on the startpage?

I wonder if it would not be nice to have a banner for SOTM-EU on the start page. As the page is already crowded, this could maybe appear only if the user is logged in (because then the infotext below the logo is not displayed). An example banner can be seen e.g. on http://www.openstreetmap.de/ (in

Re: [OSM-talk] Unlicensed use of the logo in iPhone app?

2011/5/17 Nic Roets : > I think we should also see our trademarks as an indicator of "free > content". So any product that overlays non free content onto the map > should be disallowed from using our trademarks. That should exclude > most ad supported products (as ads are typically non free), but w

Re: [OSM-talk] Unlicensed use of the logo in iPhone app?

2011/5/17 Russ Nelson : > If you don't restrict use, you don't have a trademark -1, you have a trademark when it is registered. This has nothing to do with whether you enforce restricted use or not. You can at any time restrict the use. > But all is not lost. It's still licensed CC-By-SA, so an

Re: [OSM-talk] Unlicensed use of the logo in iPhone app?

2011/5/16 Grant Slater : > On 16 May 2011 14:54, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> Is there an informal policy? If I am displaying an OSM based map, am I >> generally entitled/allowed to use the logo ("OSM inside") in my >> application / on my website? >> &

Re: [OSM-talk] Unlicensed use of the logo in iPhone app?

2011/5/16 Grant Slater : > On 16 May 2011 13:14, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> btw.: is there a text similar to the tile usage policy (logo usage >> policy)? > No, there is no formal policy document. There was discussion of > adopting http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkp

Re: [OSM-talk] Unlicensed use of the logo in iPhone app?

2011/5/15 Grant Slater : > On 14 May 2011 22:46, Yann Coupin wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Just spotted that new app which is using osm's logo as the app's icon. I'm >> pretty sure this is unlicensed use and it should be taken down but I don't >> know who should start the dialog with the dev and/or apple.

Re: [OSM-talk] Breaking up is hard to do (was New Logo in the Wiki)

2011/5/5 Peter Wendorff : > Am 05.05.2011 06:59, schrieb Mike Dupont: >> I think it would make sense to have many layers of data, each with its >> own source rules (on layer for each major import, a tiger layer for >> example) >> and also each layer would have its own license. Also you can split >>

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011/5/4 Jaak Laineste : > Regarding user interface: I would add "quick street selector" feature > to JOSM (and other editors) a workaround to improve usability would be to enable autocompletion of addr:street with the values of the name-keys of the highways. cheers, Martin https://josm.openstr

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011/5/3 Jaak Laineste : > 2011/5/3 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer : > Creating relation could be same, or even more extra work, this is > correct (but fixable in editor level). actually it will (with explicit numbers without interpolation) not be possible at the editor level to make it less wor

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011/5/3 Ed Avis : > It's one thing to say that to speed up and simplify processing, there should > be > duplicated data.  Quite another to say that every contributor, on every object > that has an address, should manually add several redundant tags. > > Let's tag the information that is needed, b

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011/5/3 Jo : > The very first I did, I did it according to 'spec': > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7595148 > > The result is a ridiculous amount of 4 relations for a street of less than > 1,5 km in length. Some of which only contain one house. And each of them > containing redund

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011/5/3 Jo : > What I do to avoid most redundancy, is to create an associatedStreet > relation. ... I add more than one street to them though, even if JOSM > complains about that. it is not just JOSM complaining about this, it is against the "spec": Members Way/nodeRoleRecurrence

Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki

2011/5/1 Ilya Zverev : > I guess, the old logo should remain for low zooms (favicons, for example). I agree and would go even further: the new "logo" is actually a clip art, nicer to have it on the website, but not really suitable as a "logo". The old one instead is more logo-like (even if it too

Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki

I am almost sure that also the original creator would make some small improvements if asked. The motivation to get into details is much higher when it is not a simple draft but you know that the result will be used millions of times in the web... I also suggest to work on a low-res version and a b

Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki

2011/4/30 Frederik Ramm : > I like the haphazard way in which things are done around here. And I'm not > saying this tongue-in-cheek, I really do. It gives me hope that we're not > yet in a situation where every improvement has to go through some sort of > complicated three-level approval process.

Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki

2011/4/30 SteveC : > You will also find discussion of this list in that meeting. If I had posted > the new logo idea here before doing anything there would have been a gigantic > discussion on it and nothing would happen. I remember a different process when the foundation got its logo, and it d

Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki

2011/4/30 Mikel Maron : > From: Simon Poole >> While I don't quite understand why the SWG has turned in to the WDWG (Web >> Design Working Group) > SWG has taken this on because the usability of the site is a the primary way > users, new and old, engage with OSM, there are definitely issues with i

[OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki

I noticed that there is a new OSM logo in the wiki. I find it strange that important things like changing the well established logo of the project are beeing changed without any discussion or notice on any of the lists, or did I miss something? Or was the site hacked? cheers, Martin _

Re: [OSM-talk] License graph

2011/4/18 Thomas Davie : > Because it will show the genuine trend – at the moment, a quick glance at the > graph would suggest that the "no" vote is expanding at the same rate, and at > the same level as the "yes" vote. until today they were indeed growing at the same rate, while since a few ho

Re: [OSM-talk] License graph

2011/4/18 Thomas Davie : > While I agree that there is a problem with the no votes disapearing if you > show the whole graph, it would be useful to show the same *range* on each > scale. > > I.e., as we are currently showing 10300 - 10900 on the yes scale, show 0 to > 600 on the no scale.  This

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data used for X-Plane 10

2011/4/18 Alex Mauer : > I just saw this blog post yesterday, saying that OSM data will be used > for showing road networks in the terrain data for the X-Plane flight > simulator in version 10. Yes, that's cool. There is also a screenshot here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page ;-) M

Re: [OSM-talk] PD tick box

2011/4/18 David Murn : > I suspect that the number of > places that have different contract laws is significantly higher than > those places that dont recognise CC-BY-SA, I think you are ignoring the fact, that the problem was not whether a country recognizes CC-BY-SA but whether CC-BY-SA is sui

Re: [OSM-talk] License graph

2011/4/18 David Murn : > If you want to represent these important figures in statistics, can you > at least use a common scale to avoid distorting peoples views of the > figures?  Using deceptive graphing methods was a trick we were taught > back in school as a child.  It doesnt make your figures l

Re: [OSM-talk] CC-BY-SA still available?

2011/4/16 Ed Avis : > By excluding contributors who don't agree with the new scheme you are wielding > a very sharp stick  It would not be a good idea to set a precedent that > the > OSMF should simply push through the 'best' answer and exclude dissenters.  One > day, you might find yourself o

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011/4/16 Kevin Peat : > ... all those people currently tracing thousands > of roads a week in the UK might as well take a break and get some fresh air. fresh air is not the worst ingredient to OSMapping. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@open

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011/4/16 David Murn : > On Fri, 2011-04-15 at 20:36 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: >> I have answered on legal-talk. > that disagree and believe the issue is of great enough importance to not > be hidden away. it is not hidden away, and you don't even have to be subscribed to legal talk to read it:

Re: [OSM-talk] question for folks working on routing engines

2011/4/15 Richard Welty : > i ask this because in NY, the default speed limit in rural areas is 55 > on all roads. > highway=unclassified > name=Mead Road > maxspeed=55 mph > surface=dirt I suggest you also add source:maxspeed=US:NY:rural or sth. similar to the roads with no explicit maxspeed sig

[OSM-talk] Mapping huge lakes as coastline

I wonder if it would not be better to map really big lakes as coastline. This is done somewhere, e.g. here http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/555716 (Baikal lake) but it is not done here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1308279 (Lake Onega) This results in bad rendering for

Re: [OSM-talk] stat pr0n

2011/4/13 Martijn van Exel : > It's not about who can do it, the question is who has actually done it. > Pascal's HDYC site is a nice example, one that I would like to see more of. > Before I put in any effort myself, it would be nice to collect things that > are already done. There is this servi

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011/4/13 David Murn : > Im not sure how legally binding it may be in some parts of the world, > but Im fairly sure that most places in the world wont allow you to ask > people to sign a contract then change the terms of that contract 100 > times without letting the other party to the contract choo

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is dying (was Re: We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities)

2011/4/12 Ed Avis : > Out of interest where do you live?  I see you are based in India but where? > I know that Germany, for example, has 'nothing left to do' in many places There is hardly any place on earth where there is "nothing left to do". There is almost everywhere (geometric) details to

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is dying (was Re: We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities)

2011/4/11 Dermot McNally : > OSM is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If > OSM is to survive at all it will be among bearded hippies too behind > the times to have discovered Waze. OSM continues to decay. Nothing > short of a cockeyed miracle could save OSM from its fate

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war, Mitrovica

2011/4/11 Besfort Guri : > Mitrovica was deleted by uboot > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7348595 , I have the data I > try to upload again but it is not working I need to get back Mitrovica > nothing more who can help me. There is a similar question here in the help system with 2

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcement: "Add-tags" a tool to connect OpenStreetMap & Wikipedia

2011/4/9 Kolossos : > Hello, > there is a new tool to bring more Wikipedia-Tags inside OSM-database and > connect so both projects more and more. It can be found here: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/RemoteControl/Add-tags Tim, this is great news! Hopefully this additions will b

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011/4/3 Elizabeth Dodd > While I'm not in the habit of collecting information from Google > StreetView, it is fair to say that if I go to the public library and in the > thousands of volumes there I find one with the assistance of the old > card catalogue and the Dewey assignment of books, then

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011/4/2 Pieren > Yes, they transform the images for panoramas. But we don't trace over these > images, we don't reuse what they added. We just look the content of the > picture. If they take a picture of your house, the house and all its > attributes (colour, shape) is not a property of Google >

Re: [OSM-talk] April fools that should have been

2011/4/3 Russ Nelson > Dave F. writes: > > Why are April fools neither witty or funny any more? > > Clearly you didn't see http://OpenWhateverMap.org/ > > > this is brilliant. Would make a nice osm.org frontpage map (if it wasn't to consume too much bandwidth on smaller servers/maps) cheers, M

Re: [OSM-talk] Aruba has flooded

2011/4/1 Milo van der Linden > I would have no problem with simplifying Aruba by defining it as > island instead of coastline... Would that be a problem? I am not to > much of a fan of the coastline rendering process and this might proof > a convenient way to bypass these issues and prevent futur

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011/3/31 Pieren > >> > I don't understand why the debat about street view is always slipping to > aerial imagery controversy which is a different case for the reasons I > already explained. > > You didn't "explain", You wrote "ToU is about "Google Maps" and their third party aerial imagery, no

Re: [OSM-talk] Aruba has flooded

2011/4/1 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer : > 2011/3/31 Toby Murray : >> Can anyone confirm >> this? > Yes, I confirm, I found several problems in the coastline > (shoreline_300) from 26th of March including Aruba, Archangelsk, > Japan, Naaryanmar (? can't read my own writing)

Re: [OSM-talk] Aruba has flooded

2011/3/31 Toby Murray : > It seems the problem persists. > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=12.516&lon=-69.943&zoom=11&layers=M > > We went from flooding of Aruba to draining the oceans. According to > the HTTP headers, the current shoreline shapefile was last updated on > the 26th of March whic

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag for true OSM data?

2011/3/31 SomeoneElse : > Sometimes it's really useful to tell the difference between those options, > though - I'd certainly appreciate source=whatever_seems_most_relevant even > if someone's made the best use of all the (non-import) sources available. I'd consider valuable to know whether the

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag for true OSM data?

2011/3/31 Jukka Rahkonen : > used for finding the real user contributed data and I will need > to preprocess OSM data somehow. you could define certain patterns you expect to be typical for imports and then elaborate through all the changesets and flag them automated or manual (you could exclude

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag for true OSM data?

2011/3/31 Martijn van Exel : > Having said that, there's the important issue of human contributors adding > value to the imports: adding metadata, removing stale data, improving > geometry. Those are real human contributions that would not have occurred if > it weren't for the import happening firs

Re: [OSM-talk] Licensing Working Group

2011/3/24 Russ Nelson : > On 24 March 2011 06:00, Richard Weait wrote: >  > ODbL gives us the real share-alike, open data license that we wish we >  > had available to us when the project started. > > Who cares about share-alike? The fact of the matter is that it's > impossible for anyone to steal

Re: [OSM-talk] Licensing Working Group

2011/3/23 Thomas Davie : > I'm not sure this is the lie though.  The lie would be "zomg, not many users > are accepting the ODbL", when what we care about is how much of the map would > survive a transition, not how many users would. I don't agree. Of course it is important how much of the dat

Re: [OSM-talk] Licensing Working Group

2011/3/23 Elizabeth Dodd : > I hope there are no errors in these figures for later correction. > From http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Stats the total number of users > is approaching 375,000. > From the LWG minutes, 163,732 users have not made any edits at > all and 9277 users have signed up to

Re: [OSM-talk] A reliable process for handling OSM license violations

2011/3/21 Frederik Ramm : > Russ Nelson wrote: >> Gert, as long as OSM is copyrighted, the OSMF will need to be in the >> business of suing OSMers. > > Certainly not under CC-BY-SA where OSMF has no legal basis for suing anyone > (because even if OSM is copyrighted, OSMF is not the copyright holder

Re: [OSM-talk] Named passages on hiking paths

2011/3/14 Steve Doerr : > On 14/03/2011 20:34, Phil Endecott wrote: > I think the OP's problem is a particular example of a more general problem, > of tagging a particular stretch of a way with a specific name which doesn't > negate the name of the way as a whole. You get that with terraces, parade

Re: [OSM-talk] layer tag issue in mapnik settings?

2011/3/14 Mike N : > On 3/13/2011 7:09 PM, Richard Mann wrote: >> >> Best advice is to turn it into a pedestrian bridge >> (highway=footway+bridge=yes+layer=1) > >  I've used highway=pedestrian+bridge=yes+layer=1 , which also seems to fit > the Wiki definition. IMHO highway=pedestrian is not corr

Re: [OSM-talk] Cost of tolls

2011/3/11 Diego Woitasen : > Hi, >  Mapping the tolls of a highway a found that there is no tag to assign the > cost of the toll. I haven't found examples in taginfo or tagwatch. Are you > using something for this? >  I know this is a little complex because the cost of the toll is different > and d

Re: [OSM-talk] What is this i don't even

2011/3/11 Ilya Zverev : > (I've sent him/her a message, but don't expect to receive an answer) have you been that harsh? ;-) cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Bike / Pedestrian directions on the MQ Open sites

2011/3/7 Nathan Edgars II : > M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> >> the wiki states for the USA http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway >> motorway = "Limited access freeway with interchanges." >> In my reading every highway which is not limited access should n

Re: [OSM-talk] georeferencing OSM

2011/3/7 Łukasz Stelmach : > Hello. > > This has been discussed[1] some time ago but the answer is somehow > unclear to me. I understand that EPSG:900913 is (may be?) a crappy > projection[2]. However, I still need a map of Poland at zoom 6-8 warped > to EPSG2180. How to use geotifcp (how to prepar

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