Re: [time-nuts] 10811's

2014-11-17 Thread bownes
Is there a quick and dirty summary of which are the "good" 10811's? Otherwise, I clearly need to go through my collection and characterize them! :) I should probably do that anyway... > On Nov 17, 2014, at 21:50, Bob Camp wrote: > > Hi > > As best anybody can tell, the improved phase noise

Re: [time-nuts] GPS in the news

2014-11-18 Thread bownes
I read the article and thought it would make for an interesting crowd sourced project if the sensitivity is large enough to build a distributed sensor network with GPSDOs. > On Nov 18, 2014, at 17:15, Magnus Danielson > wrote: > > Hi Charles and Joe, > > Read this, and hopefully you get s

Re: [time-nuts] Set time on Solaris computer from HP 58503A

2014-12-14 Thread bownes
> On Dec 14, 2014, at 07:42, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) > wrote: > >> On 14 December 2014 at 11:57, Hal Murray > > That command works. > > How do you reboot - apart from of course powering the thing off? > # shutdown -y -i6 -g0 Or # reboot Or # init 6 Bob _

[time-nuts] HP Agilent 5061A Cesium Beam Frequency Standard

2015-02-17 Thread bownes
If anyone happens to be looking for a 5061A in the Bay Area this might be a good deal. Bob View item: HP Agilent 5061A Cesium Beam Frequency Standard End Time: Feb 20, 2015, 18:32:56 EST ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubs

Re: [time-nuts] Small time server for mobile use.

2015-05-13 Thread bownes
All interesting solutions. For the advocates of RPi solutions, I put about half a dozen in to support some non mission critical infrastructure about a year ago. We are using them for for logging, reading QR codes, running a vending machine, kiosk web browsers, and similar tasks. In short, noth

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 "NO GPS" - again

2015-05-29 Thread bownes
Typically the pins are two or three lengths. The longest pins are ground, the next are power, then signal pins. Quite often used for things that are hot swapped. Take a look at a USB cable for example. > On May 29, 2015, at 19:01, Chuck Harris wrote: > > Thees units were made for the pho

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt/Arduino RS232 Interface Issue

2015-06-03 Thread bownes
Swap the tx and rx lines on the Arduino. Swap back to reconnect to PC. > On Jun 3, 2015, at 10:51, Chris Albertson wrote: > > In the RS-232 world devices are either DTE or DCE. You need one of > each on each end of the line if using a normal straight cable.To > connect two like devices y

Re: [time-nuts] How did they distribute time in the old days?

2015-10-14 Thread bownes
And to tie this back to the UPS thread, at university, the Simplex clock sync signal made our Vax 11/730 TOD clock run wy fast. I never figured out if it was using line frequency zero crossings for seconds or if it was leaking as DEC fixed it not long after it was installed. (And it was mo

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-11 Thread bownes
The 8640 will lock to an external 5Mhz reference. That's what the BNC in the heatsink is for. At least that is where it is on mine. The trick is doing a good divide by two. However, that said, the 8640 tops out at ~1024MHz, which if you get interested in even the lower microwaves, is not qui

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5372A advice

2016-01-20 Thread bownes
Has anyone published a summary of the differences between the '71 & '72? > On Jan 20, 2016, at 15:11, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > In message <569fde69.2020...@rubidium.dyndns.org>, Magnus Danielson writes: > >> Good, then I have not remembered completely wrong. > > The 5371 and 5

Re: [time-nuts] Fast risetime pulse generator

2016-04-13 Thread bownes
Maybe a krytron? If you are able to get one anyway. ;) > On Apr 13, 2016, at 18:32, David wrote: > >> On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 00:03:03 -0500, you wrote: >> >> ... >> >> If you are building up something, you probably want a SRD (step >> recovery diode) or tunnel diode. But both may be hard to find

Re: [time-nuts] RG6 or LMR400 for GPS Antenna (Symmetricom 58532A and T-bolt)

2016-04-20 Thread bownes
N connectors should never need to 'lubed'. Properly assembled they are waterproof. Same goes for BNC. That's what the rubber gasket on the mating surface is for. Metrology grade Ns don't have the gasket but you shouldn't need it on your metrology bench. :) That being said, it never hurts to wr

Re: [time-nuts] Using a frequency synthesizer replacement for motherboard oscillator

2012-11-30 Thread bownes
It all depends on what clock your talking about. Any given PC probably has more than one oscillator onboard. Generally there will be one for the CPU, one for the display circuitry, and probably one for the real time clock. Presuming you are talking about the CPU clock, it should be fairly strai

Re: [time-nuts] GPS DO Alternatives

2012-12-08 Thread bownes
I've only been following this thread distantly, however, I have been playing with arduinos quite a bit of late. If you wanted to incorporate one as the processor of choice in a new design, the cost is quite low, under $4.00us for the processor in quantity one. I've used one in a new design in

Re: [time-nuts] suggestions for free samples from AD

2013-01-05 Thread bownes
You can generally get free samples of moderate cost from a vendors website. Mini-circuits and Hittite are the notable exceptions. On Jan 5, 2013, at 20:42, Lizeth Norman wrote: > Gentlemen: > My experience is that if you place an order of some substance, > assistance will be forthcoming. > Som

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A trouble

2013-01-12 Thread bownes
That is exactly what mine does when it has marginal power on the 48v input. You may find that 50-52vdc works. On Jan 13, 2013, at 0:14, Joseph Gray wrote: > After many years of faithful service, my Z3801A has stopped working. > It seems to be going through a loop at powerup. All of the LEDs bl

Re: [time-nuts] Needed: The Real Serial USB Fix

2013-01-27 Thread bownes
The problem with the Ethernet adapters is the lack of software support on the OS side. I'd have gone to that long ago if I could point any bit if software at a serial port that was actually on a terminal server out on the ip fabric. On Jan 27, 2013, at 12:30, Peter Gottlieb wrote: > At work w

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD

2013-02-08 Thread bownes
Used is definitely the way to go. My stereo zoom scope was $15! On Feb 8, 2013, at 16:12, "DaveH" wrote: > Check to see if there are any tech auctions in your area. > > Picked up a nice scope with stand and illuminator for $90 in the Seattle > area. > > Dave > >> -Original Message- >>

Re: [time-nuts] OT - DC-10 gyros

2013-03-27 Thread bownes
On Mar 27, 2013, at 22:54, Jim Lux wrote: > On 3/27/13 3:20 PM, Bob Camp wrote: > > > Of course, for the more mechanically inclined.. what about a big flywheel > driving an alternator. You might be able to rejigger a car alternator. I > don't recall how many poles they have.. A motor dri

Re: [time-nuts] apple Xcode

2013-05-20 Thread bownes
Oh, you can do it, but you really need to know what you're doing. As the prev poster said, it depends on what you are doing. Simple compiles are straightforward, autoconf if its a bit more complex, use Xcode. If you are doing work on an app that needs a GUI, Xcode makes it easy. On May 20, 2

Re: [time-nuts] Follow-up question re: microcontroller families

2013-05-26 Thread bownes
I use the Arduino as a rapid prototype development platform. I build the application and the hardware on the Arduino and then move the cpu to a standalone board. You can also use the Arduino as a programmer much like someone else suggested. Bob On May 26, 2013, at 13:19, Chris Albertson wrot

Re: [time-nuts] Follow-up question re: microcontroller families

2013-05-26 Thread bownes
For making a blinking LEDs, it is hard to beat a 74LS74. However, a PIC, is probably less expensive! :) On May 26, 2013, at 13:33, Bob Camp wrote: > Hi > > If you head over to the auction sites and do a bit of creative digging / > bidding, the Arduino clones are amazingly cheap. They easily b

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO & Crystal Aging

2014-04-11 Thread bownes
Interesting idea. It might be an interesting experiment to couple a large number of inexpensive xtals to see how it impacts effects such as sudden changes in a single xtal. With sufficient monitoring of each one, you could even tune the coupling to amplify/attenuate the results of the 'good' a

Re: [time-nuts] hp 54600a and rs-232

2014-04-22 Thread bownes
"Framing error" or "override" sounds like a parity or stop bit issues. Have you changed those at all? 7E2 often works when 8N1 is specified. > On Apr 22, 2014, at 10:34, "Collins, Graham" wrote: > > Thank you Thomas, > > I have that document but it wasn't of much help. I spent much time over

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO standard interface?

2014-06-25 Thread bownes
Well, I built one of the ve2zaz units, and it has a. Pretty well defined serial interface. On the other hand, the one I use most has a PIC and an LCD, no serial interface. > On Jun 25, 2014, at 20:10, Bob Stewart wrote: > > In an offline communication, I suddenly realized that I hadn't given

Re: [time-nuts] Time Code Units Available

2014-07-08 Thread bownes
Walter, If the two datachron units and the datum 9300 are still available, I would be most interested. Thanks! Bob > On Jul 8, 2014, at 17:08, walter shawlee 2 wrote: > > (very sorry for the first file size! Here's a smaller one) > > Since there were several requests for more details, here'

[time-nuts] MIT Flea

2014-08-16 Thread bownes
Apologies for to those not in New England or not going to the Flea. I'm heading out to the MIT Flea at oh-freaking-dark in the morning and I know there are often several time nuts who go. If you happen to see a guy wander by in a Horton Emergency Vehicles hat looking very tired, say Hi! ___

Re: [time-nuts] Oscilloquartz 3210 Cesium Standard

2014-08-28 Thread bownes
Careful Chris, it sounds like you are developing the symptoms of the Vintage strain of the time nuts infection. Next thing you know, you will be looking at tall clocks. Bob, who is debating the wisdom of non invasively synchronizing the family heirloom tall clock to the new cesium clock... >

Re: [time-nuts] 5370 processor boards available

2014-10-08 Thread bownes
At that point, why not just remove the few remaining HP parts and put them in a new enclosure? :) > On Oct 8, 2014, at 10:29, Pete Lancashire wrote: > > One future project would be to replace the front panel with a LCD/Touch > Panel > > > >> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Chuck Harris wr

Re: [time-nuts] GPS, USGS Early Earthquake Warning

2012-04-28 Thread bownes
WIWAUG (when I was an under grad), it was explained to me that the seismometers were log scale and basically don't clip. When you get into a big event, the last few decimal places just don't matter. We also used differential GPS across known fault lines to measure slip both over time and durin

Re: [time-nuts] US 5065A standby battery cell source?

2012-07-01 Thread bownes
I get my tabbed batteries from Batteries America. Decent prices and good quality. On Jul 1, 2012, at 19:41, Dan Rae wrote: > All this discussion of the excellence of these Rb units reminds me that > another cell must have died in my battery pack since the slightest glitch in > the power h

Re: [time-nuts] [OT]: HP-5061A and a dust bunny.....

2012-07-08 Thread bownes
I understand this event perfectly. Our feline owners leave us presents on an occasional basis. Usually we find them straight away, but when we can't, ninja nose wife takes over. For some reason, however, they tend to only leave the back half of the dead rabbit. My spouse says it is because the

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt mounting

2012-07-13 Thread bownes
I've oft considered bolting one to the cement wall in my basement, which is a very nice, very stable 57deg F just to see how it holds. On Jul 13, 2012, at 14:36, "Don Latham" wrote: > You can get one of these at any large truck stop :-) > Don > > Peter Gottlieb > Now I >> suppose one cou

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt mounting

2012-07-13 Thread bownes
As someone pointed out, it is dependent on where you are, as well as a number of other factors. I've got a nice chunk of concrete tied to bedrock about 10' below the surface with a thermal variation that is below the threshold of the thermometer i have there. Since I need to put something e

Re: [time-nuts] Lightsquared questionfor SFO area....

2012-07-27 Thread bownes
Interesting that they use jammers. The guys on the ambulances just wrap the antennas with the foil from burger wrappers or the like. On Jul 28, 2012, at 0:34, Jim Lux wrote: > On 7/27/12 6:42 PM, Brian, WA1ZMS wrote: >> Does anyone know if there is ANY recent active Lightsquared testing taki

Re: [time-nuts] Cables dor 10 mHz

2012-07-30 Thread bownes
Not only do i remember the frozen yellow hose, I still have my vampire tap drill/tool...now finding it may be another matter...:) On Jul 30, 2012, at 18:53, Chris Albertson wrote: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Sylvain Munaut <246...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> 10 mHz >> >> Please use MHz .

Re: [time-nuts] Modern motherboard with RS232 port

2012-08-19 Thread bownes
Why not just use a raspberry pi? Uses a whole 2w at idle. Ntp might bump that to 2.01. On Aug 19, 2012, at 13:06, Chris Albertson wrote: > This sounds like a newer version of the board I use. The thing to check > is if the CPU heat sink has a fan or not. Having no fan indicates that

Re: [time-nuts] Modern motherboard with RS232 port

2012-08-19 Thread bownes
AFIK there are no > neat counters like on a 45xx board. You also don't have a well tuned ntp > since it's LInux. > > Bob > > On Aug 19, 2012, at 1:31 PM, Chris Albertson > wrote: > >> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 10:16 AM, bownes wrote: >> >>&

Re: [time-nuts] Modern motherboard with RS232 port

2012-08-19 Thread bownes
Agreed. Just pointing out there isn't a big porting effort to get ntpd itself up and running. On Aug 19, 2012, at 22:24, Chris Albertson wrote: > On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 6:49 PM, bownes wrote: > >> It comes w ntp out of the box if you run fedora. >> >> >

Re: [time-nuts] Hi Power LED Light power supply...

2012-09-18 Thread bownes
The local sandwich shop that I frequent recently switched to LED lighting. When I walk up to the counter I can see the flicker when people's hands are moving. The same applies for LED taillights when a vehicle is moving as well as newer LED tower lighting. Bob On Sep 18, 2012, at 13:15, Hal

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer

2012-10-02 Thread bownes
Many folks. The paranoid tinfoil hat crowd Folks who are concerned that law enforcement has placed a GPS tracker on their car. Truckers avoiding log enforcement Truckers who want to sleep rather than drive. Ambulance drivers who want to sleep but claim to have been held up at hospital. Em

Re: [time-nuts] OT question about liquid cooling

2012-10-03 Thread bownes
BWIWY (back when I was young) we needed a dummy load for a supercomputer (think Cray YMP size) that drew many many kw. Our test load was about 250' of 3/4" copper tubing coiled at about 12" dia and 1" spacing. The load was varied by changing where the + and - leads were bolted onto the coil wi

[time-nuts] Tracking NTP displacement and correlation between two clients.

2012-10-04 Thread bownes
It had to happen eventually. Time Nut interest overlapped with $DAY_JOB. Due to reasons I really can't go into, a systems user is concerned with the displacement of two servers from the same pair of stratum 2 NTP servers. I'm convinced that it really isn an issue as long as the two systems i

Re: [time-nuts] Tracking NTP displacement and correlation betweentwo clients.

2012-10-05 Thread bownes
Comments inline. On Oct 5, 2012, at 18:26, Hal Murray wrote: > > bow...@gmail.com said: >> The problem is that they start in sync and over the course of a day drift >> that far apart despite having NTP running. We're not sure why NTP isn't >> correcting it along the way. Though at this point,

Re: [time-nuts] Antique 5061A option 004

2012-10-15 Thread bownes
Boy am I glad I didn't go to either! On Oct 15, 2012, at 17:30, "David I. Emery" wrote: >In a mad moment at the NEARFest flea this weekend I grabbed > a 5061A for $250. Poor thing was getting wet in the rain and needed > a home. Really really heavy to carry to the car, however... > >

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread bownes
By the way, you need not use a USB serial adapter. Several folks are doing PPS on the gpio pins. Take a look here https://github.com/davidk/adafruit-raspberrypi-linux-pps And here http://www.frambozenbier.org/index.php/raspi-community-news/4439-george-lu-on-ntp-pps On Oct 16, 2012, at 22:03

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work

2012-11-19 Thread bownes
+1 please! On Nov 19, 2012, at 16:23, mcqu...@sonic.net wrote: >> >> "MINI-TIC" for DMTD work >> >> >> Hi Everyone! >> >> I've been testing a Miniature 2 channel TIC that Bert Kehren and Juerg >> Koegel >> and Richard Mc Corkle have designed. > > > Please add my name to the list! > Thank yo

Re: [time-nuts] EIP545A 18GHz counter query

2012-11-27 Thread bownes
You can also overdrive a mmic and get good results. That is what I'm using as the oscillator for my 1.296 GHz beacon. Bob On Nov 27, 2012, at 15:45, Ed Palmer wrote: > Hi Don, > > Yes, I've heard of SRDs. I think every Rb standard uses them. I recently > purchased a YIG Multiplier that in

[time-nuts] MIT Flea & HP 5328

2016-05-14 Thread bownes
Apologies to those not in or around Boston tomorrow. You can ignore this msg. I'll be at the flea tomorrow selling off a 5328 with 10811 OXCO & 15GHz prescaler and a few other goodies. I seem to recall that there are generally a few of us in attendance. Perhaps we could have an impromptu gath

[time-nuts] Datum 105242-001 pinout

2016-06-10 Thread bownes
My Google fu is weak tonight. I'm out in the field getting ready for the ARRL VHF/UHF contest. Thought I'd bring along the bits for my 10GHz transverter and assemble it during the downtime. But I'm being thwarted. Does anyone have the pinout for the six pin Datum 10Mhz oscillators? Thank

[time-nuts] HP 4352A

2016-06-12 Thread bownes
I just asked over on the HP equipment list, but time nuts had a thread on the 4352 a while back... Has anyone got a service manual for the 4352A? The B version is out there in the wild, but the A version seems to have gone MIA. Additionally, should anyone have either a 11636B power divider

Re: [time-nuts] OT stuffing boards: was GPS interface/prototyping

2016-06-23 Thread bownes
Aside from using the toaster oven reflow controller from SparkFun? > On Jun 23, 2016, at 21:28, Jay Grizzard wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 11:28:00PM +, Mark Sims wrote: >> A usable re-flow oven can be had for $300. > > Do you (or anyone) have suggestions for usable reflow ovens in t

Re: [time-nuts] pick and place problems/design (was: OT stuffing boards)

2016-06-25 Thread bownes
And try to tell transistor A from transistor B from diode C when they are all upside down. A moving head design can be made to pick up parts off of reels on all four sides. But it takes more table space. Which is money. As someone else said, you need Z rotation, which isn't as easy as it soun

Re: [time-nuts] Good GPSDO on eBay?

2016-07-09 Thread bownes
To paraphrase a few other folks, taking on the task of building your own, even using the VE2ZAZ board as a basis is a very educational experience. It will teach you an enormous amount. There are lessons in control systems, phase and frequency locked loops, oven controllers, phase and frequency

Re: [time-nuts] The home time-lab

2016-07-25 Thread bownes
Or the current version: Large AC motor driving a LARGE flywheel with an AC (and/or -48VDC) generator on the other side feeding a very large battery plant. If mains drops more than 1/2 cycle it connects the turbine and starts it up. We had a 5MW one at $OLD_GIG for feeding our supercomputer fac

Re: [time-nuts] [LEAPSECS] Leap second to be introduced at midnight UTC December 31 this year

2016-07-25 Thread bownes
A second here or there is a very big deal to those of us in the financial and database worlds. Aside from the well known instances involving electronic trading I have customers fighting over cabinet positions and cable lengths to place processors closer to disk drives and on switch paths with

Re: [time-nuts] [LEAPSECS] Leap second to be introduced at midnight UTC December 31 this year

2016-07-25 Thread bownes
We've been dealing with speed of light issues for over 20 years in the financial world. And telecom. Someone recently built a new fiber route from Chicago to NY because it was just a touch shorter. The distances are down to hundredths of a ms. > On Jul 25, 2016, at 17:41, Bob Camp wrote: >

Re: [time-nuts] Shera revisted

2016-08-11 Thread bownes
There are also some nice cypresses semiconductor parts that are similar and have a really nice dev environment. Basically a core surrounded by programmable logic. Code in C ore close to it. > On Aug 11, 2016, at 07:06, Bob Camp wrote: > > Hi > > To your earlier point, there are a number o

Re: [time-nuts] DIY VNA design

2016-08-21 Thread bownes
Comment inline > On Aug 21, 2016, at 18:59, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) > wrote: > > I am not convinced that this is time-nuts related, although I am sure many > time-nuts either have a VNA or would like one. Such a project needs its own > forum. > v...@yahoogroups.com would be

Re: [time-nuts] Need 10 MHz for DSN space-probe hunting

2016-09-13 Thread bownes
Just shipped out three new systems for $DAY_JOB to Goldstone, Madrid and Canberra. Love it when work and time nuts intersect. > On Sep 13, 2016, at 17:35, Andy ZL3AG wrote: > > > That sounds like fun! > > Do they have a mailing list they hang out on? > > https://eyes.nasa.gov/dsn/dsn.ht

[time-nuts] IRIG-B for OS X

2016-10-29 Thread bownes
Has anyone seen an IRIG-B generator for OS X sound port? I know there is one for the PC in NTP, but thought I would ask before diving in to that asp pit. Bob ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/

Re: [time-nuts] Thinking outside the box a super reference

2016-11-04 Thread bownes
Not to mention there is not so sensitive film, sensitive film and really sensitive film. Good old orthographic film took minutes in bright light. > On Nov 4, 2016, at 20:24, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > In message , David writes: > >> Various online sources say that natural rub

Re: [time-nuts] Linux PPS clues?

2016-11-04 Thread bownes
I suspect the multitasking aspect of the OS will give you far more jitter than one could cope with. > On Nov 4, 2016, at 22:46, Casey L. Jones wrote: > > Maybe you could use something like a serial to parallel converter chip or the > serial port input of a microcontroller. You could feed in

Re: [time-nuts] RPi/ beagle bone-like computer without video

2016-11-30 Thread bownes
Fits very nicely into a 5370 in fact. :) > On Nov 30, 2016, at 17:12, Graham / KE9H wrote: > > The BeagleBone Green is a BeagleBone Black with the HDMI and video chip > removed. > > Mouser Part number *Mouser Part #: *713-102010027, $39, In stock. > > > Makes a great little headless server. >

Re: [time-nuts] Is there any Ubuntu/Linux Software for the Z3801A?

2016-12-01 Thread bownes
Walter, You can always download VirtualBox and run a Windows system in there under Linux, OS X, Solaris, or whatever you like. It's free, and it works well. Oracle VM works too, but is probably overkill. Bob > On Dec 1, 2016, at 13:07, walter shawlee 2 wrote: > > After re-working the lab I

Re: [time-nuts] [OT} audiophile outlets.....

2013-06-19 Thread bownes
And there is your product. The GPSDO derived 44.1 kHz reference! I only ask for a 10% royalty.:) On Jun 19, 2013, at 20:54, Tom Knox wrote: > I wonder what is the best way to obtain 44.1KHz from a 5-10MHz reference. > > Thomas Knox > > > >> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:14:17 -0600 >> From: ala

Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2013-12-26 Thread bownes
There are some good alternatives to krytrons. Just don't expect to be able to afford or export them. ;) > On Dec 26, 2013, at 21:26, Bob Camp wrote: > > Hi > > Unless you want run for < 1 second, that rules out a Krytron. > > Length of operation also impacts some of the other implementatio

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 89, Issue 51

2011-12-15 Thread bownes
Those bolts would be whitworth. On Dec 15, 2011, at 14:43, "Steve ." wrote: > The laboratory where i work obviously reports results using the SI metric > system. There is one exception though, and that is the energy side, > specifically calorimetry. At first glance the calorimeters appear to

Re: [time-nuts] line frequency website

2011-12-30 Thread bownes
Imagine a 3d map in which colour represents phase or frequency and Z displacement of the sample point represents voltage. Would make for a nice animation anyway. On Dec 30, 2011, at 17:47, shali...@gmail.com wrote: > The problem is that while the frequency is going to be pretty much the sam

Re: [time-nuts] Speaking of shipments from China

2011-12-30 Thread bownes
It is one of those cost/benefit calculations. The cost of sorting the real gifts from the commerce <$100 labeled as gift probably wouldn't pay for itself. It is, of course illegal. The question is are we better off changing the enforcement or the law. Not to mention the cost of the latter. Ma

Re: [time-nuts] Getting my Rockwell D200 GPS to work

2012-01-06 Thread bownes
Step one...is the antenna in a location where it can see they sky? Sorry if it is a stupid question but you already said it was plugged in. :) On Jan 6, 2012, at 19:24, "Don Lewis" wrote: > Can someone please give me some pointers (my first time with a GPS module). > > > > A little hand-ho

Re: [time-nuts] Getting my Rockwell D200 GPS to work

2012-01-06 Thread bownes
-- > > > > -Original Message- > From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On > Behalf Of bownes > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 6:49 PM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement >

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Mechanical Question

2012-01-13 Thread bownes
On Jan 13, 2012, at 17:51, Chris Albertson wrote: > > > I'm surprised that no one has built a GPIB controller from a uP. > Electrically the GPIB is simple and slow by modern standards. > Several have. That is basically what the prologix is. There is another one you see on eBay quite oft

Re: [time-nuts] nanoseconds in the news

2012-02-16 Thread bownes
There was a system in NJ with over 3000 ps2s in a supercomputer config. The financial industry's idea of high cost is a bit different than most. The price of your real time ticker feed from the exchanges is directly proportional to the associated network latency due to speed of light. Bob

Re: [time-nuts] Tek to HP conversion... Was: Re: Fwd: FE-5680A Contact FEI

2012-02-17 Thread bownes
Yup. Between the 1ghz 7000 series, the DSA602 w 1Ghz plug ins, and the 2236 portable I don't expect I'll ever need to buy another scope. On Feb 17, 2012, at 16:36, "J. Forster" wrote: > Tek went into the toilet when Danaher bought them out. > > I bought a TDS1002 and could not even get the

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A......????

2012-02-17 Thread bownes
t; > Any interest? > Make me an offer and it's yours after I get time to test is out. > > > -Brian, WA1ZMS > > On Feb 17, 2012, at 4:56 PM, bownes wrote: > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >

Re: [time-nuts] How best to exchange Large files?

2012-02-21 Thread bownes
Wow. I just save it to an nfs share on the NAS. Then I can get to it from anywhere in the house/world... Have not seen anyone use kermit or zmodem orsplit or rar or uuencode for a long long time. On Feb 21, 2012, at 18:59, Chris Albertson wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Robert

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C at MIT

2012-04-15 Thread bownes
Yup. Once a month. Good sized parking lot plus four or five floors of a parking garage. Sounds like there were enough T-N there to have had a gathering! :) I too looked at all the loran units and decided to pass. III On Apr 15, 2012, at 17:45, "Don Latham" wrote: > Oh, I can't stand it...f

Re: [time-nuts] Capacitor failures

2010-10-21 Thread bownes
A fine and accurate observation. I've been slowly replacing the loud 110v fans in my test equipment with new, higher cfm, quiet 12 vdc fans that probably won't last as long but make it possible to hear in my workshop. On Oct 21, 2010, at 11:59 PM, Perry Sandeen wrote: > Gents, > > Over the

Re: [time-nuts] Maintaining boatanchors (was Capacitor Failures)

2010-10-22 Thread bownes
Don't forget to scare up the appropriate programmer. Those are getting hard to come by too. On Oct 22, 2010, at 7:02 PM, Chuck Harris wrote: > I don't believe the parts are failing due to structural > problems, but rather are just leaking down their buried charge. > > It should be quite pos

Re: [time-nuts] Maintaining boatanchors (was Capacitor Failures)

2010-10-23 Thread bownes
If you are going to worry about things at that level, then it is not just the memory devices, you'll be worrying about all the programmable parts such as PALs, GALs, and other eplds. Then you are really looking fort some exotic programmers. Ironically, I bought a standalone programmer many man

Re: [time-nuts] Maintaining boatanchors (was Capacitor Failures)

2010-10-23 Thread bownes
Precicesly why I have a basement shelf or two dedicated to old datebooks. :) On Oct 23, 2010, at 12:44 AM, Hal Murray wrote: > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time

Re: [time-nuts] Maintaining boatanchors

2010-10-24 Thread bownes
This makes me re-think arguing with my wife about tossing the 15 linear feet of three ring binders full of systems documentation sitting in the basement. But not for long. I'll keep what I don't have electronically I guess, but the SunOS 2.2 manual set can totally go in the trash. The field e

Re: [time-nuts] Linux timekeeping / jiffy source

2010-12-02 Thread bownes
Unfortunately, there is no way to restart the kernel without going through a BIOS re initialization. Changing the run level restarts the init process but does not reload the kernel. On Dec 2, 2010, at 10:17 PM, mi...@flatsurface.com (Mike S) wrote: > Anyone familiar with Linux kernel timek

Re: [time-nuts] Linux timekeeping / jiffy source

2010-12-03 Thread bownes
Thanks for the correction/education! On Dec 3, 2010, at 2:17 AM, Christian Vogel wrote: > Hi bownes, > >> Unfortunately, there is no way to restart the kernel without going through a >> BIOS re initialization. > > actually, there is. It's called "

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency counter recommendation

2010-12-18 Thread bownes
For me, at least, the purpose is twofold, to learn, and to get a better instrument. The idea of being able to discriminate between two inputs a few ps apart is fascinating and something I'd like to learn how it is done. The VNA is a good comparison. I have a nice scalar nw but would like a VNA.

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency counter recommendation

2010-12-19 Thread bownes
That's kinda my point about using rs232. Serial to USB, serial to Ethernet adaptors will be available for a good long while. Also why I like the idea of a standalone instrument that also has a pc interface of some sort. Or a slot for a pc interface of whatever source I want. So how does o

Re: [time-nuts] Form factor

2010-12-20 Thread bownes
I love those Hammond boxes until I have to pay the bill. The one for my n2pk VNA was about $28. But one of those as the primary enclosure with input boards and output boards that plug into a main board would be feasable if a tad expensive. Some modules lend themselves to plugins on a main boa

Re: [time-nuts] Form factor

2010-12-21 Thread bownes
o three sides of the >>> PCB. >>> >>> The finished assembly should fit into any enclusre designed to hold SATA >>> disk drives. A PC case could work but there are nicer looking boxes, rack >>> mount and diesktop >>> >>> This trades a

Re: [time-nuts] Large Qty HP C-Beam Tubes available

2011-01-15 Thread bownes
Greg, I'm going to be in the area next month and might be able to pick some up and redistribute them if that is of any assistance. If I can end up with a clock somehow, I'd be interested in that too. Bob On Jan 15, 2011, at 12:33 PM, "J. Forster" wrote: > I doubt the shipping issue is rea

Re: [time-nuts] From GPS World - Lightsquared has been given the goahead

2011-02-02 Thread bownes
Of the 2 lc orgs I administer or am a member of, and the roughly 8 other lc orgs I interact with on a regular basis, only one uses lc certified gps equip. The others are all consumer grade or don't use gps. However, a slew of filings and letters from the lc community might not be a bad idea,

Re: [time-nuts] From GPS World - Lightsquared has been given the goahead

2011-02-02 Thread bownes
Sorry. Life critical. Fire, ems, law enforcement, aviation, etc. On Feb 2, 2011, at 3:37 PM, Rex wrote: > On 2/2/2011 2:29 PM, bownes wrote: >> Of the 2 lc orgs I administer or am a member of, and the roughly 8 other lc >> orgs I interact with on a regular basis, only one us

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 79, Issue 31

2011-02-10 Thread bownes
I've not seen 110v fans in 'ultraquiet'. On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:37 PM, "Rick Karlquist" wrote: > It isn't clear why you need to change to 12V fans. > Why not "modern" 120V fans? > > Rick > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >

Re: [time-nuts] Enclosure for Thunderbolt

2011-02-22 Thread bownes
James, I used an old 1 u server case and it's accompanying power supply. The back panel was already punched for a db9. All I had to do was drill some holes for BNC output and sma for the antenna connector. The big win was the 2x16 backlit LCD panel on the front which I hooked up to a monitor

Re: [time-nuts] T.I. experimenting - newbie question

2011-04-04 Thread bownes
Another interesting measurement would be to use the timebase output and external reference to compare the readings using the same timebase. Or are you already using a gpsdo? On Apr 5, 2011, at 12:08 AM, Joseph Gray wrote: > I'm keeping the "newbie question" in the subject for those who wish

Re: [time-nuts] Selecting a used HP sweep/frequency generator

2011-04-14 Thread bownes
l the advice. Another question follows in a new post, so as not to hijack this one. ;) Bob On Apr 14, 2011, at 10:07 PM, Gary Chatters wrote: > On 04/14/2011 02:03 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> In message, Bob Bownes >> wri >> tes: >> >>> The ca

Re: [time-nuts] USB and Mouse conflict persists

2011-05-11 Thread bownes
I have this problem as well. The issue is that the USB com port shows up as a different number sometimes after a reboot and thus I must go in and manually disable the 'mouse' again. Quite annoying when trying to set up a system that just boots up and works. On May 11, 2011, at 9:51, brent e

Re: [time-nuts] GPS interference and history...

2011-06-10 Thread bownes
That small hemispherical antenna could also have been 900mhz. I have one here @ home that is a combined gps/900mhz antenna from an ambulance tracking system. On Jun 10, 2011, at 22:01, Hal Murray wrote: > > li...@rtty.us said: >> There's an enormous amount of gear out there that gets timing

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread bownes
Guess I'm an oddball, I have my choice of about a dozen wrist bourn time pieces from the dresser. Hardly the best, but my favourite is a euro spec tag heurer chrono. On Jul 8, 2011, at 11:37, Pete Lancashire wrote: > I normally don't. Use to but one day it stopped working and never got >

Re: [time-nuts] Defective Z3801 and strange PS board

2011-07-09 Thread bownes
My educated guess is that they expected to sell these to telcos, who traditionally run everything in a central office on -48v and running off of ac was an afterthought. On Jul 9, 2011, at 9:43, Marco IK1ODO wrote: > Hello group, > > after many years (about 12, I think) of faithful continuo

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