- I want to fetch a url say http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavoj_Žižek**
- This is displayed correctly in a list field (say on line 1 of the
field)
How do I use revTalk to fetch the right value from this field so that I can:
- put url http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavoj_Žižek**
NB
I'm trying to figure out how to mix and match subdomains on DreamHost and
OnRev.
cPanel should have a simple and advanced DNS Zone Editor - but they don't
seem to be added with the OnRev account? Because of this it does not look
like you have direct access to the DNS records with OnRev (like you
2009/10/21 François Chaplais francois.chapl...@mines-paristech.fr
just a remark about all the legal stuff in this thread:
assume you have a non totally permissive license on your code, and that
somebody breaks the license, by, let us say, making a copy of the code and
commercially
Replying here: I think Peter forked this thread :)
2009/10/20 Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com
Great stuff, David. More than just a grand vision, it appears well thought
out on many levels.
One thing I don't understand with GPL'd code, though:
What if rather than contributing,
2009/10/21 François Chaplais francois.chapl...@mines-paristech.fr
Thanks for the feedback. I work in (applied) mathematics, and in this
fields patents are a no-no. You cannot patent a mathematical idea. The best
you can do is disseminate it and hope it will have a great number of
children (I
It is perfectly acceptible to release RevTalk code under the terms of the
GPL, MIT or other licenses. This has been done before, and debated
extensively over the years in other related platforms - even where the
engine itself is closed.
Purists, like to argue over the issue, and debates can get
2009/10/20 Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com
Fredrik Andersson wrote:
Sorry, but, frankly, the only thing that excited me about your message was
November launch; it is funny how information is leaked out to the
proletariat . . . :)
right? This is surely a Rev bug :)
2009/10/20 Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com
On Oct 17, 2009, at 7:02 PM, David Bovill wrote:
I checked again Trevor. It makes sense that it does not work in cases
where
the controls are not cached - where it is broken is when the controls
2009/10/20 Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com
GPL - if it touches it then it needs to be FOSS. It is a viral license
since
everything that touches it must also be GPL, by touch understand link, if
it
links (in the compiler sense) then it needs to be GPL, so I don't think it
is a good
2009/10/20 Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com
How viable is a dual license scheme if one hopes to derive revenue from
licensees? And how exactly does one go about it?
That's exactly what I've proposed Richard! It's fairly straight forwards,
I've checked it with the FOSS people in
2009/10/20 Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com
what do you propose, or need, if it's not a webspace? that was my
question.
At this stage - its just about saying you want in, the more people
interested, the more reason for RunRev to view it worth while taking the
energy to explicitly license
I'll dig it out and send it :) Maybe I'll even talk you into using GIT :)
2009/10/20 Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com
hello mr oss
oh, now i get it, i want to be a partner then. you said you'd send me some
existing jabber code, what has become of that?
mr chatrev
Just checking - thinking of coding a Space Invader type game - any pointers
/ stacks / ideas?
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Thanks Trevor - silly mistake - maybe that will fix my other problem with
scrolling - thanks! The other thing I needed to do was:
set the dgProp [animate selections] of dataGrid to false
as otherwise the automatic behavior would scroll to the first selected
record. These animate features are new
It seems that this little utility is broken for records that are scrolled
above the datagrid.
This is because when a record is scrolled completely above the datagrid it
is set to invisible and set to the top of the screen / grid or perhaps even
deleted).
What I want to do is to be able to scroll
Here are some handlers that seem to work most of the time. Could be
improved by adding shortcut for fixed height rows, and it seems like the
geometry gets a little messed up in some circumstances (maybe when adding
rows using AddData?) - but it is a start, perhaps the beginning of a feature
2009/10/17 Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com
There are some scrolling handlers that are documented:
ScrollIndexIntoView/ScrollLineIntoView
There is also an undocumented ScrollRectIntoView command you can find in
the Data Grid button. You might want to take a look at those.
Thanks -
Has anyone written any handlers / code for authentication using OAuth in
Rev?
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On Oct 17, 2009, at 11:00 AM, David Bovill wrote:
Thanks - but ScrollRectIntoView would rely on ## See dgRectOfIndex in
order to get rect of a control in the data grid. - and this is broken for
cases in which the rows are scrolled above the grid (perhaps when they go
above the screens top
I'm wandering if there is anything in the latest version or any hacks /
suggestion to animate form record additions? As the dat comes in I would
like each record to slide down from the top rather than instantly appearing
(which makes it hard to read)?
Great - will try that.
2009/10/16 Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com
set the dgProps[animate selections] of group DataGrid to true
I guess the other way to do what I am thinking is to get clever with
scrolling - add the new records to the top, but then scroll down to keep the
right
I've upgraded to the latest datagrid - fixes the add to end issue reported
earlier. So naturally that's led to another one :)
I want to allow the user to quickly select multiple lines of a form by
clicking on them - with auto select unless you hold down the command key.
I scripted a way to do
2009/10/15 Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com
It's just a single row like you get using dgDataOfIndex or the array sent to
FillInData.
OK - working except for the fact that:
put the dgDataOfindex [indexNum] of dataGrid into recordArray
-- dispatch AddData to anotherDataGrid with
I've got some grey images that are used for icons - and I want to hilite
them with a simple coloured overlay of equivalent when the mouse rolls over
the button. I'm wandering if it is possible to use some combination of inks
and button colours to achieve this effect? The only way I can see how to
Looks like I'll have to use v4 then - was staying with 3.5 due to the speed
issue I reported earlier... still got to get my hands on some of these
effects :)
2009/10/14 Sarah Reichelt sarah.reich...@gmail.com
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:02 AM, David Bovill da...@vaudevillecourt.tv
wrote:
I've
Having problems adding data using:
dispatch *AddData* to group DataGrid with theArray
as specified here:
http://revolution.screenstepslive.com/spaces/revolution_tools/manuals/datagrid/lessons/3461-Data-Grid-API.
I'm getting bad data added, so wandering what mistake I am making -
essentially
I'm wanderign if anyone has any recommendations for creating irregularly
shaped hot spots on images - equivalent to html image maps? The problem is
that if you make a polygon transparent it no longer gets any mouseUp / user
interaction like you would with a transparent button. The best I can come
Thanks everyone - lots of great suggestions. Think the noop graphic is the
way to go for this application.
NB I can get quite a nice rollover by using:
on mouseEnter
set the ink of me to blendDarken
end mouseEnter
on mouseLeave
set the ink of me to noop
end mouseLeave
in the
2009/10/2 Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@yahoo.com
Alejandro Tejada wrote:
David, i still hope that, later along the road,
RunRev add directly to the engine, svg properties
to vector graphics and create functions to
transform them.
Sure it will come - just not this week :)
Still I am
I'm looking for a handler to smooth out rev graphic curves - you fetch the
points and you interpolate a vaiable number of in between values. I've lost
the script I had to do that, and worse I've forgotten how :) The aim is to
create a general handler like
getprop graphic_SmoothedPoints
Is there a workaround to give the border of a graphic shape a colour which
is different to the colour of it's text label? Or is the only way to
position a text field over the graphic?
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2009/10/1 Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com
David Bovill wrote:
Is there a workaround to give the border of a graphic shape a colour which
is different to the colour of it's text label? Or is the only way to
position a text field over the graphic
Thanks for response - did make me smile!
2009/10/1 François Chaplais francois.chapl...@mines-paristech.fr
The drawing of the Bezier curves boils down to this:
1) you compute the matrix A
2) you invert it
3) the parameters x of the unknown cubic polynomials are given by x
=A^(-1)b
4) once
set the strokegradient[type] of graphic 1 to radial
end mouseUp
---
this works with all the graphics, admittedly it is a bit awkward.
regards
Bernd
David Bovill-3 wrote:
2009/10/1 Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com
David Bovill wrote
I used to produce a load of these things for brands back in my agency days -
got thoroughly sick of the gimmickry. Much more interesting now that it is
about community building - but Flashverts like those remind me of what not
to do ever again :)
2009/9/30 Richmond Mathewson
2009/9/29 Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com
Still, it would be nice to have a bevel effect in the engine (along with
gradients for objects other than just graphics, and few other things like
Malte's blur suggestion).
I have thought of using graphic objects instead of buttons - but
2009/9/26 Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com
Is there any trick to using customProperties[arrayNotation to access
nested array elements in an object?
No. As far as I understand it the new nested array data structure uses
arrayencode / arraydecode internally and this adds the speed
2009/9/22 Jerry Balzano gjbalz...@ucsd.edu
I hope this isn't too bizarre a request.
I want a Revlet to be able to control which of several (pre-made) Java
applets a user sees. How would one do this? Is it possible to embed a Java
applet inside a Revlet?
No - as you cant have revbrowser
I guess this is a question for you Trevor :)
In trying to debug an interface that makes asynchronous calls to update a
datagrid I tacked donw the following feature / aspect of using:
set the dgDataOfIndex [indexNum] of grp Datagrid to recordArray
And that is that it calls you user defined
Maybe it's related to the speed issue I've got with mouseMove in 4.0 - I
think it must be an engine issue and we will have to wait till it is fixed -
I guess we should bugzilla it?
2009/9/22 Sarah Reichelt sarah.reich...@gmail.com
I am working on an app that allows users to drag across a series
How about checking the epoch time on the server with date +%s ?
2009/9/20 Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com
I have a CGI which stores dates using internet date format.
In one of my CGI routines I use the convert command to reformat the date
into a more user-friendly form:
I've got a question about how commands like set the dgDataOfIndex work
under the hood, and whether there are occasions where you would get speed
increases by directly setting the value of an individual control in a record
view.
*First an introduction:*
I've got a datagrid form I'm working on in
Thanks - great to know. Will use the API calls with abandon :)
2009/9/21 Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com
On Sep 21, 2009, at 8:37 AM, David Bovill wrote:
...
*The questions:*
If I uses set the dgDataOfIndex to update the display of an individual
datagrid form record, does
Can't find protected in the dictionary :)
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Thanks :)
2009/9/20 Sarah Reichelt sarah.reich...@gmail.com
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 8:44 PM, David Bovill da...@vaudevillecourt.tv
wrote:
Can't find protected in the dictionary :)
How about:
if the password of this stack is not empty then
-- stack is protected
end if
Cheers
Lynn - its good to see there are quite a few standard formats supported by
the open source Irrlicht
backendhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irrlicht_Enginethat Franklin3D
is using:
Irrlicht supports a wealth of file formats. It will load and display 3ds Max
files, Quake 2 MD2 Models, Maya .obj
2009/9/17 Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com
Given this, you should be able to simply refer to the long name of the
substack without needing to explicitly include its mainstack:
Yes - the point is that the following give a result that is not only
unexpected but plain wrong (go on -
2009/9/18 Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com
Using the long if works with all objects, and in my experience this
easiest-to-obtain form consistently provides reliable results.
There is a case, where the long id stops working which was intoduced since
3.5 and behaviors. Though I have
2009/9/18 Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com
Very interesting bug you stumbled across there. Oddly enough, I can't
reproduce it using:
put the long id of btn id 1008 of stack b
Unfortunately not. I can't track it down - think I'll throw in an
exectutionContexts so I can figure out
I'm not sure how to file this - it is a fairly basic gotcha with object
references - I'd say it was a bug?
Put the following in the message box:
put the name of stack revLibrary into stackObject
put the long name of stack revSaving of stackObject into buggyResult --
bug as it return the main
2009/9/17 Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com
It seems like that should work as written so I think it would be worth
filing.
OK - files here and voted for.
put the name of stack revLibrary into stackObject
put stack quote revSaving quote stackObject into stackObject
put the long
2009/9/16 Yves COPPE yvesco...@skynet.be
Re,
So, there is no solution ?
Thanks for your quick reply
You can and often need to :
send yourDatagridCommand to group Datagrid 1 in 2 ticks
Hope that makes sense - its a problem that the datagrid deletes all it's
inards and recopies
In another context my mother once told me go for compatibility over beauty
any time :)
2009/9/14 Jerry J j...@jhj.com
On Sep 13, 2009, at 7:56 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
With every step Apple takes to eliminate differences between OSes, the
less forked code we need to write. As they decrease
2009/9/14 Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com
Glad you explained that. I started reading the announcement and immediately
thought to myself. Wait a minute... Sarah's now working for Jerry??. First
it was Trevor, now Sarah..., Jacque will be next, followed by Richard...
Always wandered inf tRev
Thanks for taking the time to post this Wilhelm - a wealth of useful
information there that would have taken ages to drill down through bugzilla
reports.
2009/8/26 Wilhelm Sanke sa...@hrz.uni-kassel.de
Actually you can choose between two four-liners, depending on the specific
conditions.
2009/8/27 Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com
dgHilite isn't a data grid property. It is a property of a row control.
Template Custom Properties Messages:
http://revolution.screenstepslive.com/spaces/revolution/manuals/datagrid/lessons/3462-Template-Custom-Properties-Messages
If
2009/8/27 Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com
On Aug 27, 2009, at 10:26 AM, David Bovill wrote:
Shows that when using set the dgHilitedLine both params to
selectionChanged are empty, and the dgHilitedLine is set
inconsistently?
David,
Setting the dgHilitedLine doesn't send
Should work fine - there is nothing magic happening in the datagrid - it's
just a regular group containing copies of your row template - the menupick
handler will work the same way as any group containing a menu button - so
just check your script and make sure you are editing the right one :)
From the docs
on selectionChanged pHilitedIndex, pPrevHilitedIndex
put the dgDataOfIndex [ pHilitedIndex ] of me into theSelDataA
uiViewRecordOfID theSelDataA[id]
end selectionChanged
The script in the behavior of the datagrid is:
private command _SelectionChanged
Really? Tell me more - AFAIK it's still a standard rev field - though I
haven;t dug into the colourisation script yet?
2009/8/25 Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com
The new script editor (since 3.0 i think) does not allow that. RunRev
decided to use non-rev code in a special ide-only engine for
Yep - got a developer account and merging it with the Jabber / XMPP library
I have - will be released GPL.
2009/8/25 viktoras d. vikto...@ekoinf.net
Seen this: http://wave.google.com/ ?
V.
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Hi David,
You are trying to manually update the data grid view but in so doing the
data grid has no way of knowing that you are changing the size.
LayoutControl is a handler in the template and therefore bypasses any logic
in the data grid
I'm on the fence with this one.
My definite preference would be to enable the SSL libraries on the all
versions, so that we can use proper security and access web services that
require SSL - I suspect the need for this function to grow rapidly as more
and more web services move over to tighter
Hi Bill - what's the logic for this? On the face of it one of the great
advantages of growing the user base is to increase the ability of the
community to create publicly available libraries and not leaving this up to
the central company (however well resourced). I'm guessing there must be a
2009/8/24 Ian Wood revl...@azurevision.co.uk
On 24 Aug 2009, at 10:14, David Bovill wrote:
The argument for removing the ability to password protect stacks is a good
one (thanks capellan)
So far the arguments that I've read in the thread could be summarised as
'other things are limited
2009/8/24 Jan Schenkel janschen...@yahoo.com
What Bill means is that the end-product revlet that you upload to the web
server, is protected as it is turned into a different file format - but
nothing prevents you from either putting the original stack right next to
the revlet for download by
I'm having problems with the geometry of a datagrid - I have a row template
of variable height with a disclosure toggle arrow - much like that in the
Webinar. The problem is that the row templates at the bottom of the
datagrid, when expanded do not increase the range of the vertical scrollbar
of
Thanks Yves - but that's a different problem. This is not a problem with
inaccurate formattedheight - adding a fixed number does not help. This only
affect the bottom records in that they resize fine - but the scrollbar for
the data grid does not adapt to allow you to scroll down to see the new
Hi Lynn, I'm raising some funding for a 3D app for Architects. Interested in
becoming a founder / co-investing in feature creation. Would like to know
more about the model formats that are supported - and inter-conversion
between model formats. Is it possible to send us some detail on this?
the timekeeping yourself, but you
would probably have to do that anyways.
This way you have a file that is proportional to the number of images and
not oversized due to repeated images to account for a framerate.
regards
Bernd
David Bovill-4 wrote:
The images need to have varied
Practical? Yes. Acceptable - maybe not? That is a 17MB download is in the
days of Word-of-Warcraft Patches is nothing, and you could go to the
trouble of embedding the app and installing it from Rev. Given the regular
updates, ease of install, and general usefulness of VLC - it is really
better
It's the browser that will do the https for the plugin - the plugin will
just need to pass any additional security requirements which AFAIK there
aren't any as https is basically and encrypted wrapper around a normal http
stream. My guess on this would be that there will be no major issues with
Ok - their are two things going on. First viewing a secure https page with a
plugin on the page (that is the bit the browser does), second any network
connectivity the revlet does - that's not the browsers business but down to
the capabilities of the plugin. I was just talking of the former. We'll
VLC is cross platform, and (very) controllable via the command line. It has
screen grabbing functionality, which though pretty recent works OK and is
likely to get much better over time. You can even stream the live screen
grabs. I'll be working on this over the coming months for a project in
Mark, your post prompted me to look at the technique you are using for a
project where I need to create slide shows from images. The aim is to create
a QuickTime movie or FLV, with the stills simply extended in time so as not
to render large files slowly. The images need to have varied time
Had a look, I like your hack - great to know you can embed dynamically
generated stacks using a cgi / iRev script!
2009/7/7 splash21 r...@splash21.com
Where there's a will, there's a way
This example is pretty basic and I've only tested it on Firefox/Vista.
Robert, I agree that this sort of two way communication between a RevLet and
the web page is vital. I made a few posts about this on the list to find out
what the status was. The reply I've got was that RunRev are aware of the
importance / need passing params to the player / allowing the player to
Figured the field object would take a lot of replacing and good to know it
is being steadily worked on. While like others we'd love full text features,
I'd like to make a point about the development direction which is a bit
different. It's about using HTML and revBrowser for text markup.
It is
2009/6/28 Bill Marriott w...@wjm.org
What is *not* going to be in the first version of the plug-in (e.g.: talking
with JavaScript) is something that has only recently been decided, as we
approach the betas and release. This is typical of the software development
cycle; you cut features you
Thanks Kevin, good to know XML is there, and hope you can look at
prioritizing this 2-way JavaScript communication between web page and
plugin.
The reason for this is that the world of the web-app has already moved a
long way in terms of AJAX and Flash widgets living together and talking to
web
Bill, I'm dying to get an answer to the questions I've asked - I asked
them several times now, in all the right places I believe :) Answers to
these questions would really help with meetings next week. If you have any
quick answers - would be great:
1. Will the XML built ins work in the plugin
Murry is playing Kendrick in Wimbledon - maybe that's why I can;t get on the
Webinar - or is it just too busy?
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Ah - it's GMT - so an hour behind for a bunch of us ... or should that be in
front :)
2009/6/23 William de Smet williamdes...@gmail.com
Same here!
2009/6/23 viktoras d. vikto...@ekoinf.net
Is the webinar postponed? It displays: 'waiting for Organizer' :-)
Viktoras
Heather Nagey
Seems like the plugin will work with the standard externals - so I guess
that means XML support - but how about revBrowser? Will we be able to put
web page inside the plugin like we can with a stack?
And will we be able to use JavaScript to communicate to the plugin - the way
it works with
the IDE it points to Revolution IDE folder, but for standalones it
points to working directory of standalone application (if not changed by
script).
Viktoras
David Bovill wrote:
Is there a Rev built in to find the current Rev application folder. The
best
I can do is extract this from
Is there a Rev built in to find the current Rev application folder. The best
I can do is extract this from the filename of stack Home
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the script of it to your runtime generated piece and call it. No penalty
there.
Hope this helps
andre
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 8:07 AM, David Bovill da...@architex.tv wrote:
Say we have a complex, but generally useful handler that loops through a
lot
of things, and want to call
Shameless plug for votes for this bug report:
While the xmlns issue is fixed we still can't use the common and basic name
spaces in attributes. Take this RSS example and try it in the message box:
get ?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?rss version='2.0' xmlns:atom='
and put the colons back afterwards. :-)
then you can query for xmlns-atom or xmlns-content
:P
(if your content has colons in it, then replace the namespaces)
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:56 AM, David Bovill da...@architex.tv wrote:
Shameless plug for votes for this bug report:
While
Say we have a complex, but generally useful handler that loops through a lot
of things, and want to call a function on each element found. For example it
may be a search function that loops through all objects in a stack, or a
process' function that loops through certain nodes in an XML file. Now
On Linux - I used DocBook - which is basically XSLT but rolled for you in a
standard way :)
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Great thanks everyone for the posts. Trevor, have you any pointers to
digging around with regards to the BBEdit language module? I'm interested in
tweaking and taking a look at the regular expressions :)
2009/6/15 Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Kay C Lan
Has anyone done XML validation using Rev with and XML Schema? The docs say
you can use a DTD, but mention nothing about using a schema...
I'm looking to validate XML within Rev. Looking at the docs, we can use:
Use the revXMLValidateDTD function to validate an XML tree against a DTD.
)
--- On Mon, 6/15/09, David Bovill da...@architex.tv wrote:
From: David Bovill da...@architex.tv
Subject: XML Validation:
To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 4:42 AM
Has anyone done XML validation using
Rev with and XML Schema? The docs
I'd be interested in testing - and if the features were something that would
interest / integrate with architectural modeling environments / import /
export / display then we'd be interested in becoming founders.
2009/6/9 Noel no...@nomigraphics.com
Sorry, meant that to go off list :)
-
Do I remember some people on the list using TextWrangler for editing Rev
scripts? I'm interested in developing a language plugin if noone has doen it
alreadY
-- http://www.truerwords.net/articles/bbedit/codeless_language_module.html
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How do I search for a given multi-word phrase in a script - not quite sure
how the RevIde script find works - seems to find scripts with all the words
in - not theentire string. Say I want to find all scripts in loaded stack
that contain the phrase Hello World - do I quote the phrase - use march
I'd like to know as well. A couple of related things to test out:
1. You should be able to put a normal mobile phone SIM into the USB stick
with a data-plan.
2. Vodafone are abolishing roaming charges in June
3. AFAIK (I've asked the Vodaphone tech department, but not tested) -
Any one remember the rev commands for getting lists of open and visible
stacks... there are some built ins - something like revOpenStacks() but
they are not in the docs as far as I can see. I'm not talking about the
openstacks or mainstacks, but the ones that filter out the rev ide stacks
and take
Thanks :)
2009/5/24 william humphrey b...@bluewatermaritime.com
revLoadedStacks(application) maybe?
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