Re: [libreoffice-website] Wiki Discussion (Reboot)

2010-10-11 Thread Keith Williams
Hi, I'm Keith. I saw a post on the Drupal website that said libreoffice was looking for a new website / wiki. I'm curious as to what you are considering. I read this email and see that your looking at Wiki. I work with a lot of different systems (Drupal, Wordpress, Joomla, MediaWiki) and may b

Re: [libreoffice-website] Wiki Discussion (Reboot)

2010-10-11 Thread Keith Williams
, if asked. On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Christoph Noack < christoph.no...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > Hi Keith! > > Am Montag, den 11.10.2010, 13:10 -0400 schrieb Keith Williams: > > Anyway, I just thought i'd toss this out there and maybe it would > >

Re: [libreoffice-website] Wiki Discussion (Reboot)

2010-10-11 Thread Keith Williams
get the others paid jobs mostly. Anyway, if there is something that I can do like setting up a demo or answering questions let me know. On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote: > Keith: > > On Oct 11, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Keith Williams wrote: > > > I jus

Re: [libreoffice-website] OpenID

2010-10-11 Thread Keith Williams
All stuff the Big D has either built in or a relatively good module for (facebook connect) On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote: > > On Oct 11, 2010, at 4:22 PM, Per Eriksson wrote: > > Some of the pros of OpenID are: > > > > * No need to register additional accounts. Only the n

Re: [libreoffice-website] CMS requirements / suitability testing

2010-10-11 Thread Keith Williams
I really think you need to do some side by side comparisons. You can dress Drupal up in any kind of clothes you want, so I don't think visual appeal should be a factor. I would set out some tasks that the CMS will need to facilitate and judge from that. I also think that you will find that using

Re: [libreoffice-website] CMS requirements / suitability testing

2010-10-12 Thread Keith Williams
ow to use some of the major features. I'd like you to show me silverstripe in return though. On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Christian Lohmaier < lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com >wrote: > Hi Keith, > > On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Keith Williams > wrote: > > [.

Re: [libreoffice-website] CMS requirements / suitability testing

2010-10-12 Thread Keith Williams
le using web conferencing, if someone has access to that. On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Keith Williams < kwilli...@thoughtfarmproductions.com> wrote: > I'd set up a demo, if you send me what the requirements are. I can > probably do this in a day or two. > > You seem to

Re: [libreoffice-website] CMS requirements / suitability testing

2010-10-12 Thread Keith Williams
Yes. I'll put this together by midnight tomorrow. I have a lot of projects but can carve out sometime between 9:30-12 tomorrow to do this. It's not going to be themed, but I can put the content in and maybe add something that demonstrates Drupal's community features. On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 2:2

Re: [libreoffice-website] CMS requirements / suitability testing

2010-10-12 Thread Keith Williams
another 2 cents on the Drupal... I'm not a developer for open document although who knows... Drupal is a rocking repository for information because of SOLR+Taxonomy functionality and views. Building functionality to publish documents into drupal along the line of sharepoint would be awesome. Usi

Re: [libreoffice-website] Website and wiki design

2010-10-12 Thread Keith Williams
Content Drives Traffic and Traffic is People and People are users and volunteers and supporters. I believe tight integration between content and community is the key to building a community. On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Bernhard Dippold < bernh...@familie-dippold.at> wrote: > Hi Per, all, >

Re: [libreoffice-website] Website and wiki design

2010-10-13 Thread Keith Williams
t grow. Let me know what you think... On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Keith Williams < kwilli...@thoughtfarmproductions.com> wrote: > Content Drives Traffic and Traffic is People and People are users and > volunteers and supporters. I believe tight integration between content and

Re: [libreoffice-website] Website and wiki design

2010-10-13 Thread Keith Williams
I like your concept and suggest proceeding as planned. One question, first: > what do you think about using OpenAtrium for us? The project management > capabilities could be very compelling for LibO! > > Ben > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 13, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Keith Williams

Re: [libreoffice-website] CMS requirements / suitability testing

2010-10-15 Thread Keith Williams
give you SFTP access and a database. On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote: > Keith, > > On Oct 12, 2010, at 2:38 PM, Keith Williams wrote: > > > Yes. I'll put this together by midnight tomorrow. I have a lot of > projects > > but can carve out so

Re: [libreoffice-website] CMS requirements / suitability testing

2010-10-15 Thread Keith Williams
P.S. I would stick with Drupal 6 now, Drupal 7 isn't out and some of the stuff isn't all done yet for the needed contributed modules. ALlthough we can see what is working for 7 and make a judgement, i'm not sure what the state of views is for 7. On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 4:26 PM,

Re: [libreoffice-website] Website and wiki design

2010-10-16 Thread Keith Williams
The cracking Drupal book is about how to write secure code and secure your website. I actually think having a book that identifies security issues and resolutions is good. Every piece of software has security issues and many have books or at least chapters on securing them. I think your claim th

Re: [libreoffice-website] CMS requirements / suitability testing

2010-10-16 Thread Keith Williams
t from http://www.io1.biz/. > > When are you planning to launch the website? > > On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Keith Williams < > kwilli...@thoughtfarmproductions.com> wrote: > > > P.S. I would stick with Drupal 6 now, Drupal 7 isn't out and some of the > >

Re: Decision about CMS - a different perspective ( was Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS)

2010-10-18 Thread Keith Williams
At the moment I'm super busy with projects for the next 2 weeks, but i'm interested in helping. I setup a Drupal install for Ben. If anyone knows how to Drupal and can help him I'd provide the login / password for the install to that person. I would be willing to do a webinar to demo Drupal feat

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-18 Thread Keith Williams
not even in a superficial > way. I, myself, has tested Silverstripe as I didn't know it, but simple > there is nothing like drush+cck+views. > > Benjamin Horst, Keith Williams and maybe Andrea Pescetti has already > started > to build a demo site, please wait for them. I can

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-18 Thread Keith Williams
erstripe.org it seems to have modules. It just doesn't have CCK and Views and these are what I will show you. On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Christian Lohmaier < lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com >wrote: > Hi Keith, *, > > On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Keith Williams &

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-18 Thread Keith Williams
My opinion... Basically the only person that seems to want silverstripe is Christian. I think there are 3-4 people here that like Drupal in this group. The couple people interested in Drupal are working on a demo on my server. I wish I had time to put in this week to this, but I literally am doi

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-18 Thread Keith Williams
tware to work and will depend on the community that makes it to support it. I think a big energetic passionate community is an asset. 2010/10/18 Keith Williams > My opinion... > > Basically the only person that seems to want silverstripe is Christian. I > think there are 3-4 peop

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-18 Thread Keith Williams
The demo is at: http://www.mywebclass.org/~bhorst This isn't themed, it is just for a feature demo On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Erich Christian wrote: > Hi, > > Am 19.10.2010 02:51, schrieb Keith Williams: > > So i spent about 45 minutes on the demo site... Any

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-18 Thread Keith Williams
te an online community that is accessible to people and manageable by volunteers then you want Drupal. On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Erich Christian wrote: > Hi, > > Am 19.10.2010 02:51, schrieb Keith Williams: > > So i spent about 45 minutes on the demo site... Anything a

Re: Decision about CMS - a different perspective ( was Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS)

2010-10-18 Thread Keith Williams
Well... I'd be willing to help with drupal and I have 4+ years of theme and module development and site configuration experience. I just really started doing commercial projects about 18-24 months ago. I released a website for an association of all libraries in new jersey that was very complicat

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-19 Thread Keith Williams
Good luck with silver stripe We grow beautiful ideas On Oct 19, 2010, at 8:57 AM, Graham Lauder wrote: > On Tuesday 19 Oct 2010 12:39:56 Keith Williams wrote: >> My opinion... >> >> Basically the only person that seems to want silverstripe is Christian. I >> thin

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-19 Thread Keith Williams
Ok. You win, go with Silverstripe, it appears that you already have made that decision and I don't have the time to devote to this discussion, since I will not be working with Silverstripe. I really did look into Silverstripe and the reason you find it clear is that it doesn't do much and I didn

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-19 Thread Keith Williams
Good luck with silver stripe. We grow beautiful ideas On Oct 19, 2010, at 9:21 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > Hi Keith, > > 2010/10/19 Keith Williams : >> >> So i spent about 45 minutes on the demo site... >> [...] >> The site has groups, polls per group

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-19 Thread Keith Williams
I'll be taking site down by the end of the day. We grow beautiful ideas On Oct 19, 2010, at 9:21 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > Hi Keith, > > 2010/10/19 Keith Williams : >> >> So i spent about 45 minutes on the demo site... >> [...] >> The site h

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-19 Thread Keith Williams
7;s no way to make a good technical decision. > > On Oct 19, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Keith Williams wrote: > > > Ok. You win, go with Silverstripe, it appears that you already have > > made that decision and I don't have the time to devote to this > > discussion, since I wil

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-19 Thread Keith Williams
gt; On Oct 19, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Keith Williams wrote: > > > I'll be taking site down by the end of the day. > > > > We grow beautiful ideas > > > > On Oct 19, 2010, at 9:21 AM, Christian Lohmaier > > > > wrote: > > > >> Hi Keith, &

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-19 Thread Keith Williams
rote: > Hi Keith, > > I apologize beforehand, since the following might sound very > condescending. Please don't take it as such. > > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Keith Williams > wrote: > > [...] > > I have been dealing with web based systems for 15 years. I

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-19 Thread Keith Williams
in the other at the top. On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Erich Christian wrote: > Hi, > > Am 19.10.2010 01:39, schrieb Keith Williams: > > My opinion... > > Basically the only person that seems to want silverstripe is Christian. > > wrong > > > > I think the

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-19 Thread Keith Williams
http://www.mywebclass.org/~bhorst testuser/testuser$1234 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Keith Williams < kwilli...@thoughtfarmproductions.com> wrote: > I updated the Drupal demo with a WYSIWYG editor and you can now create > pages. > > Go to create content on left nav menu

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-19 Thread Keith Williams
g a million times, that feature sucks and seems to indicate that tehy are hiding bad performance. On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Keith Williams < kwilli...@thoughtfarmproductions.com> wrote: > http://www.mywebclass.org/~bhorst > testuser/testuser$1234 > > > On Tue, Oct 19,

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-19 Thread Keith Williams
The wysiwyg editor's buttons are set at admin by checking off a box. The requirements you list are going to make a very boring website. I'll fix this later We grow beautiful ideas On Oct 19, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > Hi Keith, > > On Tue, Oct 19, 201

Re: [libreoffice-website] Fwd: Libreoffice and Drupal Security

2010-10-19 Thread Keith Williams
nswers. There, in fact you did indeed tell me > > what I was curious to know. I read through your report, too. I've been > > monitoring the discussions on the list... Keith Williams, notably, is > > arguing hard for Drupal. Me, I'm simply an observer of this > > discu

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-19 Thread Keith Williams
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Evaluation_of_CMS_Platforms Is the above spec the actual spec you're trying to meet?? It actually says Drupal groups and Drupal has integration with SVN/GIT/CVS so you can see bugs issues and patches on the web. It works great. On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-19 Thread Keith Williams
u can do with a cms. We grow beautiful ideas On Oct 19, 2010, at 4:19 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote: > > On Oct 19, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Keith Williams wrote: > >> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Evaluation_of_CMS_Platforms >> >> Is the above spec the actual spec

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-19 Thread Keith Williams
lts. This is a great so that pages, wiki pages, forum posts, etc... all come back in their own categories, which can then be filtered with other criteria like author, date, etc... On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2010-10-19 16:16, Keith Williams a écri

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-19 Thread Keith Williams
Just login to the site, you don't have admin rights, your just a user with some perms. admin/bhorst$1234 is password. 9, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Graham Lauder wrote: > > > On Tuesday 19 Oct 2010 12:39:56 Keith Williams wrote: > > >> My opinion... > > >> > >

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-19 Thread Keith Williams
If you want to drive the site you can login with admin root: admin/bhorst$1234 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Keith Williams < kwilli...@thoughtfarmproductions.com> wrote: > Just login to the site, you don't have admin rights, your just a user with > some perms. >

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-19 Thread Keith Williams
If you want to see another take on Drupal. I'm making a site to do project management with it. Http://www.mywebclass.org login brendan/brendan$1234 All the forms and views of data were generated using the query builder (views) and the content creator (CCK) In Drupal you can define field in the

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-20 Thread Keith Williams
I just want to reiterate the points made above are basically what I've been trying to explain. Silverstripe is really a dead end, it isn't even the same class as Drupal and the only way you would know that is to spend some time with it Drupal, or to have a live demo done by an experienced user. I

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-20 Thread Keith Williams
Oh, I also think that integrating LibO software (open office) with Drupal will be the equivalent of the sharepoint/ms office integration that a lot of companies like. Gaining experience with Drupal could prove to be a strategic advantage / market builder for this project. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-20 Thread Keith Williams
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2010-10-20 10:40, Keith Williams a écrit : > > Oh, >> >> I also think that integrating LibO software (open office) with Drupal will >> be the equivalent of the sharepoint/ms office integration that a lot of

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-20 Thread Keith Williams
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Christian Lohmaier < lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com >wrote: > Hi Keith, > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Keith Williams > wrote: > > If you want to see another take on Drupal. I'm making a site to do > project >

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-20 Thread Keith Williams
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Christian Lohmaier < lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com >wrote: > Hi Andrea, *, > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Andrea Pescetti > wrote: > > Marc Paré wrote: > > > > A proper discussion would not fit the deadlines and tools the Document > > Foundation has now

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-20 Thread Keith Williams
Please excuse me with this whole inline posting thing. I don't use mailing lists. I just post stuff on the web or use IRC. Marc asked me to repost this i'm not sure if this is where he wanted it. No. Silverstripe is a traditional CMS that would require significant development to add features u

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-20 Thread Keith Williams
allow you to differentiate between pages, file downloads, books, or other types of content. Everything isn't just a page. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2010-10-20 14:12, Keith Williams a écrit : > >> Please excuse me with this whole inline posting th

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-20 Thread Keith Williams
omeone please >> create this as proof that it can be done? I'll take a look at it >> although I am more adept at the Zikula packages. Also, in all fairness, >> Christian, you should log into the Drupal site and attempt to create >> these documents to see how they compare t

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-20 Thread Keith Williams
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Andreas Mantke wrote: > Hi all, > > sorry because i jump in the thread here, but i hadvenot the time to read > every of the > - felt - two thausend posts about this topic on the list. I think, we are > lost in a > nice discussion about features and posibilities of

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-20 Thread Keith Williams
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2010-10-20 16:38, Marc Paré a écrit : > > Le 2010-10-20 16:13, Keith Williams a écrit : >> >> >>> One other nice feature that Drupal has is that it is easy to admin >>> multiple >>> sites. O

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-20 Thread Keith Williams
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Christian Lohmaier < lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com >wrote: > Hi Marc, > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Marc Paré wrote: > > Le 2010-10-20 11:52, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : > >> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Benjamin Horst wrote: > On Tue, Oct 19

Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

2010-10-20 Thread Keith Williams
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Christian Lohmaier < lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com >wrote: > Hi Benjamin, *, > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Benjamin Horst wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote: > >>> On Oct 18, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: >