On Thursday 28 May 2009, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> * the idea of renaming Site to Locus
-1.
I immediately had the same connotation as all the other German speakers. And I
am studying genetics right now as well, so I knew about locus.
Furthermore, I really do not see an advantage of renaming stuf
On Thursday 28 May 2009, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> > The SiteManagementFolder by default installed as ['default']
> > is absolutly useless and obsolate since the last refactoring.
> > It's just a container, earlier it was a kind of namespace.
>
> Yes, with Grok we've been installing directly in the
On Thursday 28 May 2009, Jim Fulton wrote:
> 3. I think the right word here is "local registry". I think the whole
> concept should be labeled as advanced and we should discourage people
> from even pondering it unless they have a strong use case, like
> wanting to host multiple web sites wi
Hey,
Roger Ineichen wrote:
[snip]
> Probably a rare use case or could become imporant if we use other
> patterns then the container traversal pattern. Do you have some
> ideas of using a contianer less traversal pattern?
Take a look at this graph:
http://startifact.com/depgraphs/zope.app.publish
Hi Martjin
> Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Site -> Locus
>
> Roger Ineichen wrote:
> [snip]
> > The site offers a SiteManagementFolder, SiteManagerContainer and a
> > LocalSiteManager.
> >
> > The SiteManagementFolder by default installed as ['defa
Hi Jim
> Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Site -> Locus
>
> A few high-level comments.
>
> 1. I admire your desire to make this clearer. :)
>
> 2. I think local configuration address use cases that most
> people don't have but introduce complexity that I bet
Fabio Tranchitella wrote:
> * 2009-05-28 13:09, Martijn Faassen wrote:
>> What do people think about:
>> * the idea of renaming Site to Locus
>
> What is the technical advantage of renaming Site to Locus? To me it looks
> just like a (not so necessary) cosmetic change.
Obviously there is no techn
Roger Ineichen wrote:
[snip]
> The site offers a SiteManagementFolder, SiteManagerContainer
> and a LocalSiteManager.
>
> The SiteManagementFolder by default installed as ['default']
> is absolutly useless and obsolate since the last refactoring.
> It's just a container, earlier it was a kind of n
A few high-level comments.
1. I admire your desire to make this clearer. :)
2. I think local configuration address use cases that most people
don't have but introduce complexity that I bet a lot of developers
trip over.
3. I think the right word here is "local registry". I think the whole
Hi Martjin
> Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Site -> Locus
I think if we really need a better naming, we should
think about how everyting will fit together.
e.g.
application, root, site, registry, local, global
component, location, container, item, etc.
I don't think locus is the ri
* 2009-05-28 13:09, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> What do people think about:
> * the idea of renaming Site to Locus
What is the technical advantage of renaming Site to Locus? To me it looks
just like a (not so necessary) cosmetic change.
Fabio.
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Hi Martjin
> Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Site -> Locus
>
> Hey,
>
> Roger Ineichen wrote:
> [snip]
> >> What do people think about:
> >>
> >> * the idea of renaming Site to Locus
> >
> > Oh my god, many -1
>
> Motivations
> One reason Locus might be a bad word is because it's easily confused
> with "Location", a concept we already have.
an other one is that in german locus is often used for a place where you sit
down and use paper to clean your back afterwards..
robert
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I don't think locus is an improvement to site. Although site is not
strictly correct, it's often the fact that it is a site. Locus doesn't
say anything, and adds another abstraction with no obvious benefit.
A longer name is better in that case. Like componentlocation or
registration
Hey,
Roger Ineichen wrote:
[snip]
>> What do people think about:
>>
>> * the idea of renaming Site to Locus
>
> Oh my god, many -1
Motivations beyond "oh my god"?
One reason Locus might be a bad word is because it's easily confused
with "Location", a concept we already have.
> What I like to
Hi Martjin, Christian
> Betreff: [Zope-dev] RFC: Site -> Locus
[...]
> The second plan is my favorite if it is possible
> dependency-wise and zope.component doesn't take on new
> dependencies. I think support for local components could very
> well be part of zope
Previously Martijn Faassen wrote:
> Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> > Previously Martijn Faassen wrote:
> >> I propose we use the word 'Locus' instead of 'Site'. This word doesn't
> >> have a lot of connotations in the web programming world, and people can
> >> guess by simply looking at the word it mi
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> Previously Martijn Faassen wrote:
>> I propose we use the word 'Locus' instead of 'Site'. This word doesn't
>> have a lot of connotations in the web programming world, and people can
>> guess by simply looking at the word it might have something to do with
>> *local* co
Matthew Wilkes wrote:
> On 28 May 2009, at 12:39, Martijn Faassen wrote:
>
>> * Hm, I wonder whether it has something to do with local utilities.
>
> I don't think I'd make this jump. I'd not be averse to a longer
> package name if it made it more explicit.
I wasn't primarily talking about a
Previously Martijn Faassen wrote:
> I propose we use the word 'Locus' instead of 'Site'. This word doesn't
> have a lot of connotations in the web programming world, and people can
> guess by simply looking at the word it might have something to do with
> *local* components. It's also short.
I
On 28 May 2009, at 12:39, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> * Hm, I wonder whether it has something to do with local utilities.
I don't think I'd make this jump. I'd not be averse to a longer
package name if it made it more explicit.
Matt
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Hey,
Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
> On May 28, 2009, at 13:08 , Martijn Faassen wrote:
>
>> What do people think about:
>>
>> * the idea of renaming Site to Locus
>
> I think that's a terrible name. While "site" at least means something
> to people, "locus" doesn't carry any meaning in the specific k
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On May 28, 2009, at 13:08 , Martijn Faassen wrote:
> What do people think about:
>
> * the idea of renaming Site to Locus
I think that's a terrible name. While "site" at least means something
to people, "locus" doesn't carry any meaning in the spe
Hi there,
We have a concept of "Site" in the Zope Toolkit, along with SiteManager
and the like. What this concept allows us to do is locally register
components. Most typically this is used for local utilities such as a
catalog.
During traversal, a thread-local is set with the current site, so
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