Re: [AI] JAWS 10 and hindi

[Sandeep Singh]

Dear Amiyo sir,
Does lekha also read text in the word and other files besides reading 
newspapers on the internet?

And can you kindly load it somewhere?
Regards,
Sandeep Singh

At 07:42 AM 1/30/2010, you wrote:

Hello,

If you have already Lekha installed on your pc, you can try these steps:

1. First, use ctrl+insert+s for the voice profile dialogue box.

2. Select Sapi5 using arow keys and press enter on it.

3. It will make Sapi5 the active voice for jaws. Now go to the jaws 
window and select Options menu, Voices submenu, Global submenu.


4. Inside the new dialogue box, select Lekha as your synthesiser.

Just give it a try and you will definitely find out. It reads Hindi 
newspapers online. I have tested it.

Best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 91-9433464329

- Original Message - From: "Swati Sinha" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] JAWS 10 and hindi



Hello Sir,
Kindly explain me, how Lekha works with JAWS 10. Even I want to try Lekha.
With regards,
Swati Sinha


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amiyo Biswas
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 11:59 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] JAWS 10 and hindi

Hello,
I have Lekha and it's pretty good for Hindi. I don't know if it is free or
not. It never asks for license key or anything like that. Moreover, once
installed, it works with both Jaws and NVDA. I believe, it's free. Write to
me privately if you want me to upload it. If it is not free, please let me
know.

With Best regards,
Amiyo Biswas.
Cell: 91-9433464329

- Original Message - From: "Rohith P" 
To: ; 
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] JAWS 10 and hindi



hi
is lekha a free software? where do i get it from?
thanks
rohith


On 1/28/10, Swati Sinha  wrote:

Install lekha.
Hope this helps.
With regards,
Swati Sinha


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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
Rajesh
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:18 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] JAWS 10 and hindi

Friends
I have jaws 10 installed on PC without JAWS 9.
Now, how can I make it read Hindi?
Rajesh


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Re: [AI] Can a blind person become an insurance agent?

[George Abraham]

yes, certainly.  There are more than two or three persons that we know who 
are insurance agents.  For details, you can call us on Monday at 011 
46070380.

Regards,

George
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Score Foundation
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New Delhi 110016
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Telefax: 91 11 26852559
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Re: [AI] Can a blind person become an insurance agent?

[amarnath de]

hi friend,
as far my knowledge, one of my friend Mr. Mrinal Saha, who is a member of 
Blind Person's association, is an agent of L.I.C. and he is successfully 
performing his duty. as I am in Delhi, I could not be able to provide more 
details about the fact. Amiyo Biswas can, I think, can help you more in this 
regard.


your friend,
Amarnath De.,

--
From: "Vamshi. G" 
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 7:25 PM
To: "accessindia" 
Subject: [AI]  Can a blind person become an insurance agent?


Hi friends,

One of my colleagues in SBI has applied for the CIF exam , Certified
Insurance Facilitator, which is the required qualification to sell SBI
life policies through Bancasurance.  But his application has been
rejected on the ground that he is blind.
I came to know this when I contacted the SBI life divisional office at 
Tirupati.


Then I enquired with other CIFs(insurance agents) in SBI about the
exact role of an employee selling insurance policies.  They said it is
the responsibility of the concerned employee to verify the
authenticity of the documents submitted by the customer, which a blind
person can't do.

So, I would like to know from you
1.  Are there any blind persons working as insurance agents?
2. Is there any legal document restraining a blind person from writing the 
exam?


I personally feel, if a blind person can't perform a certain duty,
there is no point in writing an exam.

--
G. Vamshi
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Mobile: +91 9949349497
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Re: [AI] JAWS 10 and hindi

[Amiyo Biswas]

Hello,

If you have already Lekha installed on your pc, you can try these steps:

1. First, use ctrl+insert+s for the voice profile dialogue box.

2. Select Sapi5 using arow keys and press enter on it.

3. It will make Sapi5 the active voice for jaws. Now go to the jaws window 
and select Options menu, Voices submenu, Global submenu.


4. Inside the new dialogue box, select Lekha as your synthesiser.

Just give it a try and you will definitely find out. It reads Hindi 
newspapers online. I have tested it.

Best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 91-9433464329

- Original Message - 
From: "Swati Sinha" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] JAWS 10 and hindi



Hello Sir,
Kindly explain me, how Lekha works with JAWS 10. Even I want to try Lekha.
With regards,
Swati Sinha


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amiyo Biswas
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 11:59 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] JAWS 10 and hindi

Hello,
I have Lekha and it's pretty good for Hindi. I don't know if it is free or
not. It never asks for license key or anything like that. Moreover, once
installed, it works with both Jaws and NVDA. I believe, it's free. Write 
to

me privately if you want me to upload it. If it is not free, please let me
know.

With Best regards,
Amiyo Biswas.
Cell: 91-9433464329

- Original Message - 
From: "Rohith P" 

To: ; 
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] JAWS 10 and hindi



hi
is lekha a free software? where do i get it from?
thanks
rohith


On 1/28/10, Swati Sinha  wrote:

Install lekha.
Hope this helps.
With regards,
Swati Sinha


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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
Rajesh
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:18 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] JAWS 10 and hindi

Friends
I have jaws 10 installed on PC without JAWS 9.
Now, how can I make it read Hindi?
Rajesh


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[AI] (no subject)

[LEGAL AID CELL FOR PHYSICALLY CHALLENGED]

Dear Pavan,

With reference to e-book matter i am herebelow producing links related to 
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2. http://www.ebook.com/

with regards,

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[AI] Regarding Demate Account

[Shyam Sundar Singh]

Hello friends,
can a blind person, who put Thumb Impression, open Demate Acount? If any of you 
have circular regarding this, please send it on my ID. Your assistance will be 
highly appreciated.




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Re: [AI] Moderator: Hi! E63 and N79 are fully talks supported now.

[Vetrivel Adhimoolam]

Hi Harish and others,

This email draws my attention to another crucial issue: There are some 
individuals among visually challenged community who are cashing-in pirated 
software by utilizing the desperate situation of some les knowledgeable 
visually challenged persons. I an not sure about other states, but this is 
particularly happening in Tamilnadu. I would like to warm that if I happen to 
stumble up on such individuals with proper evidence, I would not hesitate to 
report him/her to the concern authorities. This is indeed exploitation and such 
individuals should actually be ashamed!
Regards,

Vetri.


Sent from my Nokia N82 via T-mobile internet using a screen reader for S60 
phones.

-original message-
Subject: [AI] Moderator:   Hi! E63 and N79 are fully talks supported now.
From: "Kotian, H P" 
Date: 01/29/2010 5:35 AM

Hello all

This thread is closed for all traffic. The offending member is dealt strictly.
Harish Kotian
Moderator

From: "Pradip Chandra Sikdar" 
To: Access India 
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:26:46 +0530
Subject: [AI] Hi! E63 and N79 are fully talks supported now.
Hi access Indians!
I'm Pradip Chandra Sikdar from Kolkata.
Some days ago, some of you wanted to know whether E63 and N79 fully talks 
supported or not.


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[AI] halp regarding sound card

[nitesh thakur]

Dear list members, I’m facing a strange problem with my sound card,
Sum time while working,
 It got meut;
 And for continuing work I have to logoff my computer or restart it
Knead of your valuable guidance.
Regards



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[AI] Special Drive for PWD candidates in CPCL Jan2010

[Pradeep banakar]

Chennai Petroleum Corporation Limited (CPCL)
(A Group Company of Indian Oil)
Regd.Office: 536, Anna Salai, Teynampet, Chennai - 600018

Special recruitment drive for Persons with Disabilities (PWDs)

CPCL invites applications from Persons with Disabilities of Indian Nationality 
for the following Supervisory and Non-supervisory positions  :

Senior Officer (R&D) : 01 post 
Engineer-Chemical : 03 posts 
Engineer-Mechanical : 01 post 
Engineer-Electrical : 01 post 
Assistant Chemist : 02 posts 
Hindi Translator : 01 post 
Steno-Typist : 01 post 
Refinery Technician-Mech. : 01 post 
Refinery Technician-Elect. : 01 post


How to Apply : Applications complete in all respects should be sent in an 
envelope by ordinary post only, superscribing on the envelope - "Name of the 
Post with Code No.", to The Senior Manager (Personnel), Chennai Petroleum 
Corporation Limited, Post Box No. 1, Manali, Chennai - 600068, so as to reach 
latest by 27/02/2010.

Kindly visit
http://www.cpcl.co.in/career2.htm for detailed information and application form.


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[AI] need few EBooks

[l pavan]

hello list members!
in the past many members of this butiful home helped me in various
issues. of which providing the books i need was unforgetable.
i said "unforgetable" because they have helped   me to a great extent.
in acheving good percentages which enabled me to compete equally with
sighted people.
and now iam in to my final sem.
in which i have to do a main project along with that i need to prepare
for 3 subjects also.
therefore i request you that
  if any one have the EBooks mentioned below please let me know.
digital image processing by(rafeal c. gonzalez, richard e. woods,
second edition pearson education/ph/).
the essential guide to user interface, design,wilbert o galitz,wiley
dreama tech.
regards
-- 
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Re: [AI] JAWS 10 and hindi

[Swati Sinha]

Hello Sir, 
Kindly explain me, how Lekha works with JAWS 10. Even I want to try Lekha. 
With regards, 
Swati Sinha


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amiyo Biswas
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 11:59 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] JAWS 10 and hindi

Hello,
I have Lekha and it's pretty good for Hindi. I don't know if it is free or 
not. It never asks for license key or anything like that. Moreover, once 
installed, it works with both Jaws and NVDA. I believe, it's free. Write to 
me privately if you want me to upload it. If it is not free, please let me 
know.

With Best regards,
Amiyo Biswas.
Cell: 91-9433464329

- Original Message - 
From: "Rohith P" 
To: ; 
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] JAWS 10 and hindi


> hi
> is lekha a free software? where do i get it from?
> thanks
> rohith
>
>
> On 1/28/10, Swati Sinha  wrote:
>> Install lekha.
>> Hope this helps.
>> With regards,
>> Swati Sinha
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, 
>> Rajesh
>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:18 PM
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: [AI] JAWS 10 and hindi
>>
>> Friends
>> I have jaws 10 installed on PC without JAWS 9.
>> Now, how can I make it read Hindi?
>> Rajesh
>>
>> 
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Re: [AI] FW: AdapTech Insider - Volume 22: Mobilespeak 4 vs The iPhone

[Mukesh Sharma]

Hello,
Mobile speak 4 is available in india and is available with A-Z Accessibility
Solutions.
Contact at azaccessibil...@gmail.com for price details
Thanks
Mukesh
 

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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 8:10 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] FW: AdapTech Insider - Volume 22: Mobilespeak 4 vs The iPhone

Folks: 
 
Would like to know if Mobilespeak 4 is available in India and if so what is
the cost? 
 
Subramani 
 
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Flying Blind, LLC
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 12:32 PM
To: Subramani L
Subject: AdapTech Insider - Volume 22: Mobilespeak 4 vs The iPhone
 
 
 
 
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RELEASED: January 29, 2010

 
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Flying Blind, LLC is pleased to kick off 2010 with a double header of
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Many of you know that I've been an avid user and strong proponent of the
Mobilespeak Screenreader Software developed by Code Factory
(http://www.codefactory.es/
 ). This company's innovative approach to
providing access to hundreds of mobile solutions has changed the lives
of thousands of us who are vision impaired, and their latest product
offering, Mobilespeak 4, does not disappoint.
 
In EyePod Technocast 9A, we focus on the enhanced text to speech
capabilities present in Mobilespeak 4 and illustrate how MobileSpeak 4's
forward thinking regarding these functionalities solidifies its position
with competitors who use familiar, but dated, status quo software.
 
In EyePod Technocast 9B, we shift gears and compare Mobilespeak 4's
newly implemented access to mobile handsets with touch screens, and the
innovative approach that Apple has taken in providing access to the
iPhone. We discuss both the accessibility and limitations of each
approach.
 
If you have questions about any of the material covered in either
podcast, please feel free to contact me. I hope you will find this
information both useful and informative as we continue to work together
to provide those of us who are vision impaired with the most
comprehensive access available.
 
You may click on, or forward, any of the following links to download
these audio podcasts:
 
EyePod TechnoCast Volume 9A: An Exploration of the Enhanced Text to
Speech capabilities present in Mobilespeak 4
 
MP3 Format: http://www.flying-blind.com/ept/EyePodTechnoCast9A.mp3

(12.3 MB @ 9

[AI] FW: AdapTech Insider - Volume 22: Mobilespeak 4 vs The iPhone

[Subramani L]

Folks: 
 
Would like to know if Mobilespeak 4 is available in India and if so what
is the cost? 
 
Subramani 
 
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Of Flying Blind, LLC
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 12:32 PM
To: Subramani L
Subject: AdapTech Insider - Volume 22: Mobilespeak 4 vs The iPhone
 
 
 
 
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please add en...@flying-blind.com to your address book.
 
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NEWS:
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And So Much More!
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EyePod Technocasts.
 
Many of you know that I've been an avid user and strong proponent of the
Mobilespeak Screenreader Software developed by Code Factory
(http://www.codefactory.es/
 ). This company's innovative approach to
providing access to hundreds of mobile solutions has changed the lives
of thousands of us who are vision impaired, and their latest product
offering, Mobilespeak 4, does not disappoint.
 
In EyePod Technocast 9A, we focus on the enhanced text to speech
capabilities present in Mobilespeak 4 and illustrate how MobileSpeak 4's
forward thinking regarding these functionalities solidifies its position
with competitors who use familiar, but dated, status quo software.
 
In EyePod Technocast 9B, we shift gears and compare Mobilespeak 4's
newly implemented access to mobile handsets with touch screens, and the
innovative approach that Apple has taken in providing access to the
iPhone. We discuss both the accessibility and limitations of each
approach.
 
If you have questions about any of the material covered in either
podcast, please feel free to contact me. I hope you will find this
information both useful and informative as we continue to work together
to provide those of us who are vision impaired with the most
comprehensive access available.
 
You may click on, or forward, any of the following links to download
these audio podcasts:
 
EyePod TechnoCast Volume 9A: An Exploration of the Enhanced Text to
Speech capabilities present in Mobilespeak 4
 
MP3 Format: http://www.flying-blind.com/ept/EyePodTechnoCast9A.mp3

(12.3 MB @ 96Kbps)
ZIP Format: http://www.flying-blind.com/ept/EyePodTechnoCast9A.zip

(12.2 MB @ 96Kbps)
 
EyePod TechnoCast Volume 9B: Mobilespeak 4 vs The iPhone: Which Offers
Greater Accessibility?
 
MP3 Format: http://www.flying-blind.com/ept/EyePodTech

[AI] Can a blind person become an insurance agent?

[Vamshi. G]

Hi friends,

One of my colleagues in SBI has applied for the CIF exam , Certified
Insurance Facilitator, which is the required qualification to sell SBI
life policies through Bancasurance.  But his application has been
rejected on the ground that he is blind.
I came to know this when I contacted the SBI life divisional office at Tirupati.

Then I enquired with other CIFs(insurance agents) in SBI about the
exact role of an employee selling insurance policies.  They said it is
the responsibility of the concerned employee to verify the
authenticity of the documents submitted by the customer, which a blind
person can't do.

So, I would like to know from you
1.  Are there any blind persons working as insurance agents?
2. Is there any legal document restraining a blind person from writing the exam?

I personally feel, if a blind person can't perform a certain duty,
there is no point in writing an exam.

-- 
G. Vamshi
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Mobile: +91 9949349497
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Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

[Sandeep Singh]

Well said, sir. I fully agree with your views.
Regards,
Sandeep

At 12:08 AM 1/29/2010, you wrote:

Hi Rahul

We are really moving towards an off-topic cenerio. The details can 
be taken off- the list.


In my view disability should not be the corner stone of a political 
movement. It should be in the spirit of inclusiveness and empaphy.


That would mean throwing out all the reservation out of the window 
and create a environment where reservation would not be required.


That is basically what we want to achieve, right? Forget about the 
able bodied, do you expect mass support of disbandoning reservation 
by the disabled themselves if an enabling environment is created?


We hate discrimination when it does not suit us and we walk an extra 
mile to fight for discrimination when it suits us. When it comes to 
things like IT benefits, we want to be labeled as disabled and those 
moments we don't think of equal wages for equal work.


Agreed at this moment we don't have an inclusive environment. Even 
if we did, we would still be asking for concessions and exemptions.


By this movement perhaps, we make a few leaders who would eventually 
think of their petty needs and wants and as usual the masses would 
be left astray to fight their own battles.


In abscence of a strong conviction, a compelling philosophy I don't 
think any realistic change would turn out this way.


What would our leaders give, some lolly pops, some more percentage 
in reservations and more holidays to be considered on duty?


A strong ism like the socialistic movement could move the people on 
the strength of its principles. Now, we have tasted what such ism's 
really mean.


We don't have a convincing political case nor a business case then 
who would fund this venture?


Political option is one of the option and by no means the only 
option. let us back that horse which has some possibility of getting 
some results.


On a lighter note, On this line imagine what fun it would be to see 
TB party, HIV positive party and  Diabetes party?


I am afraid I am not sounding optimistic which is contrary to my 
natural disposition and forcing myself a smile.


These are my personal thoughts on the subject and surely is not the 
official view of the list.


Harish.
- Original Message - From: "rahul cherian" 


To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled



Hi Subramani,

I like the name. How do we go about this? Harish can we discuss this
initiative here in detail?

Best regards,

Rahul

2010/1/28 Subramani L 


If we ever do so, we must ccall it People for the Merit and Enablement
Party (PMEP).

Subramani



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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rahul
cherian
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:32 PM
To: vinod; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

I agree with Vinod

2010/1/27 vinod 

> it is the need of the hour that we should think seriously about the
> empowerment of the disabled in th politicale field. If parties give us
our
> due it isalright. Otherwise we must unite and start our own party. How
long
> we will remain silent?
>
> - Original Message - From: "l pavan" 
> To: "accessindia" 
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:59 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled
>
>
>  hello list members!
>> to some extent i have followed the discurtion on above mentioned
issue.
>>  as one of you said blind may not have a vote bank.
>> but it should not deprive us from getting in to politics.
>> as of now we may not establish a new party.
>> but we may slowly buildup confidence in people by actively involving
>> in various activities that benifit people.
>> in this regards i personally we may think of approaching dr jaya
>> prakash narayan.
>> who started loksatta(with new politics for new generation)this is my
>> personal feeling iam sorry if i hurt
>> --
>> l.pavan("help ever & hurt never")
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] For the Blind, digital misgivings

[Vamshi. G]

Hi

I think we had a very long discussion on this an year ago.

Personally, I'm not able to read and write only for the past 2 or 3
years.  Hence I haven't learnt Braille yet.  But since I started
relying on Jaws for reading, I for got the spellings of many words.
So, I think that's the main advantage Braille has over screen readers.

But the main advantage of screen readers over Braille is speed at
which we can read.  I set the reading speed of Kurzweil at 300 words
per minute which helps me to cover good ground while reading.  I doubt
how helpful Braille would be in this.

I think organisations shouldn't encourage Braille only for the sake of
it's existence.  If screen readers are really advantageous over
Braille to blind people, it's better to let Braille extinct and become
a script in history.  I'm sorry if this hurts any Braille lovers, but
what I mean is that we should not rub something on someone when there
something more useful than it.

-- 
G. Vamshi
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Mobile: +91 9949349497
E-mail ID:
gvamsh...@gmail.com
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On 1/19/10, Suman Kumar Bhokray  wrote:
> hi sir
> my self i dont know brail
> i dont thing that its going to help us a lot
> in my point of viue if i take some thing on brail only i can understand it
> no one with site can read it
> it was inportement  in those days when computers and other devises r not
> accessbal
> but now its very esey to handel this things
> we should take it for granted that computers and other accessbal devises r
> the only things witch helps a blind to interact with peabl have hearing
> problum i meen deff
> any ways its my feeling only
>
> Suman Kumar Bhokray
> mobile: +91 9912746392
> US number: +1 3608122369
> skype: sbhokray
> windows live: ad...@bhokray.com
> yahoo: sumankumarbhokray
> Gtalk: ad...@bhokray.com
> sip phone: 17476589...@proxy01.sipphone.com
> gizmo: sbhokray
> orkut: ad...@bhokray.com
> face book: sumankumarbhok...@yahoo.com
> - Original Message -
> From: "Subramani L" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] For the Blind, digital misgivings
>
>
>> Sorry for raking up an old discussion. I have certain questions which I
>> thought I can put across to the group for consideration.
>>
>> First of all, despite agreeing to the view that Braille is the most
>> important aspect of communication for the blind (particularly for
>> reading and writing), should we regard Braille as something sacred? My
>> appologies if this question sounds politically incorrect, but my
>> objective in asking this question is to know if we are failing to accept
>> the fact that Braille  is indeed losing its relevance today or at least
>> is trying to rediscover its relevance.
>>
>> Another seeming anomaly in our approach is that besides insisting on
>> Braille's importance, we don't seem to do anything to actively promote
>> Braille. I don't know if surveys are done in this regard, but if we were
>> to do a survey amongst the 20 and below age group (blind persons) today,
>> surely the number of them who are proficiency in Braille will be very
>> less.
>>
>> So, instead of regarding Braille as something sacred, we need to
>> understand that its role in the coming decades will be reduced as
>> technology starts to replace it in many aspects of a blind person's
>> life. It is after all a vehicle of communication and not a monumental
>> edifice.
>>
>> What do you folks think?
>>
>> Subramani
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vetrivel
>> Adhimoolam
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:15 PM
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] For the Blind, digital misgivings
>>
>> It is an excellent article except that it fails to mention the attitude
>> of
>> western world in general and the United States in particular towards
>> brail
>> literacy which considers teaching brail to visually challenged students
>> is
>> undesirable. No wonder, 90% of the American visually challenged lack the
>>
>> ability to read and write in brail. This attitude does get tied to the
>> general tendency of considering brail script as hierarchically inferior
>> to
>> the normal script. Just to illustrate this, I met people at the NFB
>> convention who were forced to learn normal script despite the fact that
>> their vision was not enough to retain it. In fact it was so bad that
>> many
>> actually ended-up loosing little vision they had because of the constant
>>
>> exposure to CC TV and other similar tools.
>>
>> Vetri.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "SC Vashishth" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 3:09 AM
>> Subject: [AI] For the Blind, digital misgivings
>>
>>
>> FYI from mydigitalfc
>> For the blind, digital misgivings
>>
>> By RACHEL AVIV Jan 03 2010
>> At 4 o'clock each morning, Laura J. Sloate begins her daily reading. She
>> calls a phon

Re: [AI] in response to queries on jaws, window eyes, NVDA and system access to go

[Ravi Paul]

Hello, the link you have provided for NVDA tutorial actually leeds to
GW micro's website where window eyes is discussed. Or am I missing
something. You had provided the following link for NVDA:
http://www.gwmicro.com/Audio_Video_Archive/Window-Eyes_Tutorials/
Do correct me if I am wrong.
As far as I know, NVDA's official website has documentation, whose link is:
http://www.nvda-project.org/wiki/Documentation
There are various sections hear, so, one can have a look at it. Blind
Cool Tech (
 http://www.blindcooltech.com/ ) also has some useful audio
walkthroughs/reviews.
Regards, Ravi Paul

On 1/29/10, prateek aggarwal  wrote:
> hey dude,
> thanks for appreciation, but we can  talk these personal questions off the
> list.
> it's better not to clutter more then 1000 of folks for our personal
> communications.
> i'll answer your questions in just a while on your e-mail ID.
>
> Regards,
> Prateek agarwal.
> Skype:
> Prateek_agarwal32
> Wanna see inside me? My blog is the telescope:
> http://www.myfriendprateek.blogspot.com
> website:
> http://www.prateekagarwal.webs.com
>
> the best way to accomplish your softwares/websites development needs.
> You tell, I'll build.
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Srikanth Bolla" 
> To: 
> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:56:12 -0500
> Subject: Re: [AI] in response to queries on jaws, window eyes, NVDA
> and system access to go
> Hi this is Srikanth. I am very happy to read your blog and website. I
> appreciate for your contribution to the world of blind. If people like you
> can do like this then I am shore we can fight for our rights. I am just 18
> but I am greatly motivated by your efforts. Thank you for providing useful
> information in your website. By the way do you mind letting me know wither
> your birth blind or not. I did not understand your information. If you don't
> feel like sharing then no problem. Thanks again for great work. Regards,
>   Srikanth
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of prateek
> aggarwal
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 2:16 AM
> To: accessindia
> Subject: [AI] in response to queries on jaws, windoweyes, NVDA and system
> access to go
>
> hello everyone,
> Recently, I had been addressed for some queries on jaws, windoweyes,
> NVDA, and system access to go.
> MS shilpa has asked about tutorials of all of these softwares, and
> wanted to know details of system access to go.
> Two e-mails have been sent in this regards. Since the topic is pretty
> much the same, here's my response combining both the e-mails.
>
> Jaws:
> A nice tutorial on jaws can be found at
> http://atto.buffalo.edu/registered/Tutorials/jaws/index.php
> in adition, The official website of freedomscientific provides a
> number of tutorials and documentation about JFW (jaws for windows).
> Here are some old, but nice audio ttutorial found on freedomscientific
> website:
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_downloads/jawsdemo_audio.asp
>
> windoweyes:
> the GW micro offers nice audio tutorials to describe the
> functionalities of windoweyes.
> These can either be downloaded or heard online  at
> http://www.gwmicro.com/Audio_Video_Archive/Window-Eyes_Tutorials/
>
> NVDA:
> Here's a nice article in tutorial form that describes key features of
> NVDA specially in a perspective of new users.
> http://www.gwmicro.com/Audio_Video_Archive/Window-Eyes_Tutorials/
> though documentations on official website of NVDA too are  amazing enough.
>
> System access to go:
> As akhil has perhaps described  it pretty well, system access to go is
> a screen reader that's free, and aims to provide access of internet
> and else on the fly.
> One can start using the same by loging in  to
> www.satogo.com
> there you ffind a link called "begin", which will show a dialogue
> similar to download dialogue box.
> Tutorial on same can be found on
> www.satogo.com
>
> hope it helps.
> Regards,
> Prateek agarwal.
> Skype:
> Prateek_agarwal32
> Wanna see inside me? My blog is the telescope:
> http://www.myfriendprateek.blogspot.com
> website:
> http://www.prateekagarwal.webs.com
>
> the best way to accomplish your softwares/websites development needs.
> You tell, I'll build.
>
>
>
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Re: [AI] in response to queries on jaws, window eyes, NVDA and system access to go

[Srikanth Bolla]

Thank you for your positive reply. I am sending this email to you only.
Regards,

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of prateek
aggarwal
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 7:11 AM
To: accessindia
Subject: Re: [AI] in response to queries on jaws, window eyes, NVDA and
system access to go

hey dude,
thanks for appreciation, but we can  talk these personal questions off the
list.
it's better not to clutter more then 1000 of folks for our personal
communications.
i'll answer your questions in just a while on your e-mail ID.

Regards,
Prateek agarwal.
Skype:
Prateek_agarwal32
Wanna see inside me? My blog is the telescope:
http://www.myfriendprateek.blogspot.com
website:
http://www.prateekagarwal.webs.com

the best way to accomplish your softwares/websites development needs.
You tell, I'll build.

-- Original message --
From: "Srikanth Bolla" 
To: 
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:56:12 -0500
Subject: Re: [AI] in response to queries on jaws, window eyes, NVDA
and system access to go
Hi this is Srikanth. I am very happy to read your blog and website. I
appreciate for your contribution to the world of blind. If people like you
can do like this then I am shore we can fight for our rights. I am just 18
but I am greatly motivated by your efforts. Thank you for providing useful
information in your website. By the way do you mind letting me know wither
your birth blind or not. I did not understand your information. If you don't
feel like sharing then no problem. Thanks again for great work. Regards,
  Srikanth

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of prateek
aggarwal
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 2:16 AM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] in response to queries on jaws, windoweyes, NVDA and system
access to go

hello everyone,
Recently, I had been addressed for some queries on jaws, windoweyes,
NVDA, and system access to go.
MS shilpa has asked about tutorials of all of these softwares, and
wanted to know details of system access to go.
Two e-mails have been sent in this regards. Since the topic is pretty
much the same, here's my response combining both the e-mails.

Jaws:
A nice tutorial on jaws can be found at
http://atto.buffalo.edu/registered/Tutorials/jaws/index.php
in adition, The official website of freedomscientific provides a
number of tutorials and documentation about JFW (jaws for windows).
Here are some old, but nice audio ttutorial found on freedomscientific
website:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_downloads/jawsdemo_audio.asp

windoweyes:
the GW micro offers nice audio tutorials to describe the
functionalities of windoweyes.
These can either be downloaded or heard online  at
http://www.gwmicro.com/Audio_Video_Archive/Window-Eyes_Tutorials/

NVDA:
Here's a nice article in tutorial form that describes key features of
NVDA specially in a perspective of new users.
http://www.gwmicro.com/Audio_Video_Archive/Window-Eyes_Tutorials/
though documentations on official website of NVDA too are  amazing enough.

System access to go:
As akhil has perhaps described  it pretty well, system access to go is
a screen reader that's free, and aims to provide access of internet
and else on the fly.
One can start using the same by loging in  to
www.satogo.com
there you ffind a link called "begin", which will show a dialogue
similar to download dialogue box.
Tutorial on same can be found on
www.satogo.com

hope it helps.
Regards,
Prateek agarwal.
Skype:
Prateek_agarwal32
Wanna see inside me? My blog is the telescope:
http://www.myfriendprateek.blogspot.com
website:
http://www.prateekagarwal.webs.com

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Re: [AI] in response to queries on jaws, window eyes, NVDA and system access to go

[prateek aggarwal]

hey dude,
thanks for appreciation, but we can  talk these personal questions off the list.
it's better not to clutter more then 1000 of folks for our personal
communications.
i'll answer your questions in just a while on your e-mail ID.

Regards,
Prateek agarwal.
Skype:
Prateek_agarwal32
Wanna see inside me? My blog is the telescope:
http://www.myfriendprateek.blogspot.com
website:
http://www.prateekagarwal.webs.com

the best way to accomplish your softwares/websites development needs.
You tell, I'll build.

-- Original message --
From: "Srikanth Bolla" 
To: 
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:56:12 -0500
Subject: Re: [AI] in response to queries on jaws, window eyes, NVDA
and system access to go
Hi this is Srikanth. I am very happy to read your blog and website. I
appreciate for your contribution to the world of blind. If people like you
can do like this then I am shore we can fight for our rights. I am just 18
but I am greatly motivated by your efforts. Thank you for providing useful
information in your website. By the way do you mind letting me know wither
your birth blind or not. I did not understand your information. If you don't
feel like sharing then no problem. Thanks again for great work. Regards,
  Srikanth

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of prateek
aggarwal
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 2:16 AM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] in response to queries on jaws, windoweyes, NVDA and system
access to go

hello everyone,
Recently, I had been addressed for some queries on jaws, windoweyes,
NVDA, and system access to go.
MS shilpa has asked about tutorials of all of these softwares, and
wanted to know details of system access to go.
Two e-mails have been sent in this regards. Since the topic is pretty
much the same, here's my response combining both the e-mails.

Jaws:
A nice tutorial on jaws can be found at
http://atto.buffalo.edu/registered/Tutorials/jaws/index.php
in adition, The official website of freedomscientific provides a
number of tutorials and documentation about JFW (jaws for windows).
Here are some old, but nice audio ttutorial found on freedomscientific
website:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_downloads/jawsdemo_audio.asp

windoweyes:
the GW micro offers nice audio tutorials to describe the
functionalities of windoweyes.
These can either be downloaded or heard online  at
http://www.gwmicro.com/Audio_Video_Archive/Window-Eyes_Tutorials/

NVDA:
Here's a nice article in tutorial form that describes key features of
NVDA specially in a perspective of new users.
http://www.gwmicro.com/Audio_Video_Archive/Window-Eyes_Tutorials/
though documentations on official website of NVDA too are  amazing enough.

System access to go:
As akhil has perhaps described  it pretty well, system access to go is
a screen reader that's free, and aims to provide access of internet
and else on the fly.
One can start using the same by loging in  to
www.satogo.com
there you ffind a link called "begin", which will show a dialogue
similar to download dialogue box.
Tutorial on same can be found on
www.satogo.com

hope it helps.
Regards,
Prateek agarwal.
Skype:
Prateek_agarwal32
Wanna see inside me? My blog is the telescope:
http://www.myfriendprateek.blogspot.com
website:
http://www.prateekagarwal.webs.com

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Re: [AI] Banking again!

[Srikanth Bolla]

Well! Lets hope for a good day.

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Himanshu Sahu
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 6:39 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Banking again!

Well, in my opinion, there are some tasks and specializations, which
we can not perform and that's why we are called "Disable".
I haven't seen anybody facing 100% Vision Impairment and signing or
writing anything without the assistance of sighted people.
It's something like aspiring to see the colours of Rambo, Shiny light
of Sun and Milky smooth moonlight.  But the truth is we can only feel
it, imagine it and can describe it according to our sense and
perception.
As far as ATM is concerned, to build a completely accessible
infrastructure across the country, it requires a huge expenditure and
effort.
Fortunately, SBI has taken the initiative but still it is only in the
form of announcement or on the paper.
Let's hope that the day will come when we would be able to use ATM
without any assistance.

And please don't take my comment otherwise regarding our limitations.

On 1/29/10, Srikanth Bolla  wrote:
> Hi this is Srikanth. I agree with all the rules and rights. I am wondering
> how we have to use A T M machines with touch screen? How we have to write
> checks? How we have to fill forms, slips? regards
> ,
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Himanshu Sahu
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 1:12 AM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Banking again!
>
> Hi Satguru,
> Here is the guideline issued from Judiciary,Finance Ministry and RBI,
> which allows us to use most of the banking services.  Hope it would
> help to understand our rights and limitations.
>
>
> "Banking Facilities to the Visually Impaired Persons"
> In compliance with the directives from the Court of Chief Commissioner
> of Persons with Disabilities
> and at the instance of Ministry of Finance, Govt. of India and Reserve
> Bank of India, the Indian
> Banks' Association (IBA) has framed procedural guidelines, as detailed
> hereinafter, for the member
> banks for providing banking facilities to visually impaired persons.
> It has been decided by the Bank to implement the procedural
> guidelines, as aforesaid, for providing
> banking facilities to visually impaired persons in respect of the
> banking services offered by the Bank.
> Procedural Guidelines for Providing
> Banking Facilities to Visually Impaired Persons
> 1.0 General Instructions
> i) Banking facilities for visually impaired persons should be offered
> by all branches of banks.
> ii) Banks should not equate visually impaired customers with
> illiterate customers.
> iii) All banks must provide the same facilities to a visually impaired
> customer/ prospective
> customer as it would do so for any other customer. But at the same
> time, the customers
> should be made aware of the risk associated with some of the
> facilities, which may be
> higher than that for a normal customer.
> iv) Additional facilities like reading and filling up forms, slips,
> cheques should be provided to a
> visually impaired customer, if required.
> v) Banks should not deny any services to visually impaired customers
> including those who
> use their thumb impression for operating the bank account.
> vi) A visually impaired customer must not be forced to operate the
> bank account jointly with
> any person or in the presence of any person.
> vii) Visually impaired customers may be allowed to appoint a person/
> persons as their Power
> of Attorney or Mandate Holder to operate their bank account, if they so
> desire.
> 1.1 Opening of Bank Accounts
> i) All banking products offered by a bank should be made available to
> visually impaired
> persons.
> ii) A bank must follow the same procedure for opening the account of a
> visually impaired
> person as it does for its other customers.
> iii) A visually impaired person must be allowed to open the account
> either singly or jointly
> with others.
> iv) A bank must allow the visually impaired customer to open a joint
> account with anybody
> that he/ she chooses, including person(s) who is/ are visually impaired.
> v) The Officer/Manager of the branch should read out the rules of
> business and other terms
> and conditions in the presence of a witness, if required by the customer.
> vi) The Branch Manager must inform a visually impaired customer/
> prospective customer of
> his/ her rights and liabilities before opening the account.
> 2
> vii) The documentation requirements of a visually impaired customer
> must be the same as
> applicable to any other customer.
> viii)The account has to be clearly marked as "The account holder is
> visually impaired".
> 1.2 Withdrawal of cash / cheque book facility
> i) Facilities for withdrawal of cash, as provided to all custome

Re: [AI] in response to queries on jaws, window eyes, NVDA and system access to go

[Srikanth Bolla]

Hi this is Srikanth. I am very happy to read your blog and website. I
appreciate for your contribution to the world of blind. If people like you
can do like this then I am shore we can fight for our rights. I am just 18
but I am greatly motivated by your efforts. Thank you for providing useful
information in your website. By the way do you mind letting me know wither
your birth blind or not. I did not understand your information. If you don't
feel like sharing then no problem. Thanks again for great work. Regards,
   Srikanth

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of prateek
aggarwal
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 2:16 AM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] in response to queries on jaws, windoweyes, NVDA and system
access to go

hello everyone,
Recently, I had been addressed for some queries on jaws, windoweyes,
NVDA, and system access to go.
MS shilpa has asked about tutorials of all of these softwares, and
wanted to know details of system access to go.
Two e-mails have been sent in this regards. Since the topic is pretty
much the same, here's my response combining both the e-mails.

Jaws:
A nice tutorial on jaws can be found at
http://atto.buffalo.edu/registered/Tutorials/jaws/index.php
in adition, The official website of freedomscientific provides a
number of tutorials and documentation about JFW (jaws for windows).
Here are some old, but nice audio ttutorial found on freedomscientific
website:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_downloads/jawsdemo_audio.asp

windoweyes:
the GW micro offers nice audio tutorials to describe the
functionalities of windoweyes.
These can either be downloaded or heard online  at
http://www.gwmicro.com/Audio_Video_Archive/Window-Eyes_Tutorials/

NVDA:
Here's a nice article in tutorial form that describes key features of
NVDA specially in a perspective of new users.
http://www.gwmicro.com/Audio_Video_Archive/Window-Eyes_Tutorials/
though documentations on official website of NVDA too are  amazing enough.

System access to go:
As akhil has perhaps described  it pretty well, system access to go is
a screen reader that's free, and aims to provide access of internet
and else on the fly.
One can start using the same by loging in  to
www.satogo.com
there you ffind a link called "begin", which will show a dialogue
similar to download dialogue box.
Tutorial on same can be found on
www.satogo.com

hope it helps.
Regards,
Prateek agarwal.
Skype:
Prateek_agarwal32
Wanna see inside me? My blog is the telescope:
http://www.myfriendprateek.blogspot.com
website:
http://www.prateekagarwal.webs.com

the best way to accomplish your softwares/websites development needs.
You tell, I'll build.



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Re: [AI] Banking again!

[Himanshu Sahu]

Well, in my opinion, there are some tasks and specializations, which
we can not perform and that's why we are called "Disable".
I haven't seen anybody facing 100% Vision Impairment and signing or
writing anything without the assistance of sighted people.
It’s something like aspiring to see the colours of Rambo, Shiny light
of Sun and Milky smooth moonlight.  But the truth is we can only feel
it, imagine it and can describe it according to our sense and
perception.
As far as ATM is concerned, to build a completely accessible
infrastructure across the country, it requires a huge expenditure and
effort.
Fortunately, SBI has taken the initiative but still it is only in the
form of announcement or on the paper.
Let's hope that the day will come when we would be able to use ATM
without any assistance.

And please don't take my comment otherwise regarding our limitations.

On 1/29/10, Srikanth Bolla  wrote:
> Hi this is Srikanth. I agree with all the rules and rights. I am wondering
> how we have to use A T M machines with touch screen? How we have to write
> checks? How we have to fill forms, slips? regards
> ,
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Himanshu Sahu
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 1:12 AM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Banking again!
>
> Hi Satguru,
> Here is the guideline issued from Judiciary,Finance Ministry and RBI,
> which allows us to use most of the banking services.  Hope it would
> help to understand our rights and limitations.
>
>
> "Banking Facilities to the Visually Impaired Persons"
> In compliance with the directives from the Court of Chief Commissioner
> of Persons with Disabilities
> and at the instance of Ministry of Finance, Govt. of India and Reserve
> Bank of India, the Indian
> Banks' Association (IBA) has framed procedural guidelines, as detailed
> hereinafter, for the member
> banks for providing banking facilities to visually impaired persons.
> It has been decided by the Bank to implement the procedural
> guidelines, as aforesaid, for providing
> banking facilities to visually impaired persons in respect of the
> banking services offered by the Bank.
> Procedural Guidelines for Providing
> Banking Facilities to Visually Impaired Persons
> 1.0 General Instructions
> i) Banking facilities for visually impaired persons should be offered
> by all branches of banks.
> ii) Banks should not equate visually impaired customers with
> illiterate customers.
> iii) All banks must provide the same facilities to a visually impaired
> customer/ prospective
> customer as it would do so for any other customer. But at the same
> time, the customers
> should be made aware of the risk associated with some of the
> facilities, which may be
> higher than that for a normal customer.
> iv) Additional facilities like reading and filling up forms, slips,
> cheques should be provided to a
> visually impaired customer, if required.
> v) Banks should not deny any services to visually impaired customers
> including those who
> use their thumb impression for operating the bank account.
> vi) A visually impaired customer must not be forced to operate the
> bank account jointly with
> any person or in the presence of any person.
> vii) Visually impaired customers may be allowed to appoint a person/
> persons as their Power
> of Attorney or Mandate Holder to operate their bank account, if they so
> desire.
> 1.1 Opening of Bank Accounts
> i) All banking products offered by a bank should be made available to
> visually impaired
> persons.
> ii) A bank must follow the same procedure for opening the account of a
> visually impaired
> person as it does for its other customers.
> iii) A visually impaired person must be allowed to open the account
> either singly or jointly
> with others.
> iv) A bank must allow the visually impaired customer to open a joint
> account with anybody
> that he/ she chooses, including person(s) who is/ are visually impaired.
> v) The Officer/Manager of the branch should read out the rules of
> business and other terms
> and conditions in the presence of a witness, if required by the customer.
> vi) The Branch Manager must inform a visually impaired customer/
> prospective customer of
> his/ her rights and liabilities before opening the account.
> 2
> vii) The documentation requirements of a visually impaired customer
> must be the same as
> applicable to any other customer.
> viii)The account has to be clearly marked as "The account holder is
> visually impaired".
> 1.2 Withdrawal of cash / cheque book facility
> i) Facilities for withdrawal of cash, as provided to all customers
> regarding cash payments,
> must be provided to visually impaired customers.
> ii) In case a visually impaired customer makes cash withdrawals at the
> bank then the
> payment must be made in the presence of another bank employee/
> officer. No outside
> witnesses are required unless

Re: [AI] Banking again!

[Srikanth Bolla]

Hi this is Srikanth. I agree with all the rules and rights. I am wondering
how we have to use A T M machines with touch screen? How we have to write
checks? How we have to fill forms, slips? regards
,
-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Himanshu Sahu
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 1:12 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Banking again!

Hi Satguru,
Here is the guideline issued from Judiciary,Finance Ministry and RBI,
which allows us to use most of the banking services.  Hope it would
help to understand our rights and limitations.


"Banking Facilities to the Visually Impaired Persons"
In compliance with the directives from the Court of Chief Commissioner
of Persons with Disabilities
and at the instance of Ministry of Finance, Govt. of India and Reserve
Bank of India, the Indian
Banks' Association (IBA) has framed procedural guidelines, as detailed
hereinafter, for the member
banks for providing banking facilities to visually impaired persons.
It has been decided by the Bank to implement the procedural
guidelines, as aforesaid, for providing
banking facilities to visually impaired persons in respect of the
banking services offered by the Bank.
Procedural Guidelines for Providing
Banking Facilities to Visually Impaired Persons
1.0 General Instructions
i) Banking facilities for visually impaired persons should be offered
by all branches of banks.
ii) Banks should not equate visually impaired customers with
illiterate customers.
iii) All banks must provide the same facilities to a visually impaired
customer/ prospective
customer as it would do so for any other customer. But at the same
time, the customers
should be made aware of the risk associated with some of the
facilities, which may be
higher than that for a normal customer.
iv) Additional facilities like reading and filling up forms, slips,
cheques should be provided to a
visually impaired customer, if required.
v) Banks should not deny any services to visually impaired customers
including those who
use their thumb impression for operating the bank account.
vi) A visually impaired customer must not be forced to operate the
bank account jointly with
any person or in the presence of any person.
vii) Visually impaired customers may be allowed to appoint a person/
persons as their Power
of Attorney or Mandate Holder to operate their bank account, if they so
desire.
1.1 Opening of Bank Accounts
i) All banking products offered by a bank should be made available to
visually impaired
persons.
ii) A bank must follow the same procedure for opening the account of a
visually impaired
person as it does for its other customers.
iii) A visually impaired person must be allowed to open the account
either singly or jointly
with others.
iv) A bank must allow the visually impaired customer to open a joint
account with anybody
that he/ she chooses, including person(s) who is/ are visually impaired.
v) The Officer/Manager of the branch should read out the rules of
business and other terms
and conditions in the presence of a witness, if required by the customer.
vi) The Branch Manager must inform a visually impaired customer/
prospective customer of
his/ her rights and liabilities before opening the account.
2
vii) The documentation requirements of a visually impaired customer
must be the same as
applicable to any other customer.
viii)The account has to be clearly marked as "The account holder is
visually impaired".
1.2 Withdrawal of cash / cheque book facility
i) Facilities for withdrawal of cash, as provided to all customers
regarding cash payments,
must be provided to visually impaired customers.
ii) In case a visually impaired customer makes cash withdrawals at the
bank then the
payment must be made in the presence of another bank employee/
officer. No outside
witnesses are required unless the visually impaired customer requests
that such witness be
present.
iii) Operations should not be restricted to self withdrawals.
iv) Cheque book facility should not be denied to visually impaired person.
v) All procedures pertaining to the use of such cheque books by
visually impaired customers
must be in accordance with that followed in respect of other customers.
vi) Cheques issued by visually impaired persons to third parties
should be honoured, if
otherwise in order.
1.3 Credit Cards/Debit Cards
i) Visually impaired customers must be issued Credit Cards/ Debit
Cards on request.
ii) All rules and regulations regarding credit/ debit card must be
available on the web-site
of the respective banks in accessible format. These should be read out
to visually
impaired persons and perceived risk factors explained to them.
iii) Banks may consider issuing Credit/ Debit card with Photograph.
This Photograph will work
as an identification/ verification.
1.4 ATM/Debit Cards
i) Visually impaired customers must be permitted to avail of ATM facilities.
ii) Banks should ensure that the

Re: [AI] Hi! E63 and N79 are fully talks supported now.

[Amiyo Biswas]

Hello,

If he paid Rs. 199 for license, it must be legal. Perhaps there is some sort 
of concession or discount. Why should we call it a crack when we have to pay 
for it? I think, he inadvertently used the word crack in this case.


I don't know this fello personally. As far as I know, he is a student and 
very good at computer and mobile phones. In case, you consider it offensive, 
he should be warned.


With Best regards,
Amiyo Biswas.
Cell: 91-9433464329


- Original Message - 
From: "prateek aggarwal" 

To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Hi! E63 and N79 are fully talks supported now.


Gosh,
Someone  please save me from this inane!
Moderator, where are you, please look at this  disgusting mail on the list.
Mr. pratap, even though I’ve seen a number of mails here  who talks
about cracks, but this is perhaps the most forthright message I’ve
ever seen on accessindia list.
Amazingly, the expression of helping people with crack softwares was
pretty open.
The list is not made for your illegal actions, so
Of course, you’re gone from the list in just a while, I would have
banned the given mobile number as well if I could.
Regards,
Prateek agarwal.
Skype:
Prateek_agarwal32
Wanna see inside me? My blog is the telescope:
http://www.myfriendprateek.blogspot.com
website:
http://www.prateekagarwal.webs.com

the best way to accomplish your softwares/websites development needs.
You tell, I’ll build.


-- Original  message --
From: "Pradip Chandra Sikdar" 
To: Access India 
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:26:46 +0530
Subject: [AI] Hi! E63 and N79 are fully talks supported now.
Hi access Indians!
I'm Pradip Chandra Sikdar from Kolkata.
Some days ago, some of you wanted to know whether E63 and N79 fully
talks supported or not.
The answer is yes.
I've personally installed in 1 N79 and 2 E63 handsets and it works.
But if you like to buy E63 then, you must have to installed
nuance talks v4.11.3 in it.
Keep it in mind that, if you like to use a crack version,
you have to hack your device or signed your software 1st.
Nokia devices belong to s60 3rd platform do not support unsigned 
application.

So if you ever fall in trouble to sign your app,
I'll try to help you.
Though, signing app is not totally free.
It costs at least rs 199.
Still, it is chiefer than the original version.
So, don't hesited to buy a new handset.
If any of you like to use mobile speak, I'll try to help you also.
With regards,
Pradip :-)
MO 9836057407



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[AI] Moderator: Hi! E63 and N79 are fully talks supported now.

[Kotian, H P]

Hello all

This thread is closed for all traffic. The offending member is dealt strictly.
Harish Kotian
Moderator

From: "Pradip Chandra Sikdar" 
To: Access India 
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:26:46 +0530
Subject: [AI] Hi! E63 and N79 are fully talks supported now.
Hi access Indians!
I'm Pradip Chandra Sikdar from Kolkata.
Some days ago, some of you wanted to know whether E63 and N79 fully talks 
supported or not.


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Re: [AI] For the Blind, digital misgivings

[Srikanth Bolla]

Hi,
   I agree with you.

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sanjay
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 4:37 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] For the Blind, digital misgivings

I still remember comments made by print readers when Amazon released its
Kindle Book reader.  I was taken aback when many print readers said they
enjoy holding and reading a book, the smell of a book, and some of them also
admired the tactile affection which they get from a printed material.  Even
turning pages while reading is a pleasing experience for book lovers
including sighted and blind folks.  I feel no need to mention here the
tactile intimacy which we derive from Braille books.
   As an avid Braille reader, I am also using computer as a reading machine
less by choice more by compulsion.  The need of the hour is to design an
affordable Braille display for Braille users of third world countries.  If
blind teachers are qualified enough to generate interest in Braille and
impart proper Braille skills to blind children, the future of Braille will
always be bright.  There is no way to read/study in  noisy places like
trains, buses, public gatherings etc other than Braille.  I also admire the
efforts of some organisations which are promoting Braille.  Perhaps
bulkiness of books and high cost of production also made braille unpopular.








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Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME

[Subramani L]

By compassion I mean viewing a person in entirety with his/her abilities
and limitations. This applies not just to persons with disability, but
to virtually any human being, including those who confuse seeing with
sight.  

Subramani 


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rahul
cherian
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 10:44 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME

I think we are talking about different things here. I believe that a
person
can be said to have a fulfilling life if he or she has tried to do the
best
he or she can. The results are not really relevant. This is the same
whether
a person is disabled or not. But if we are talking about changing the
perception of society towards people with disability then we need to
compete
in mainstream society and excel. I feel that a "compassionate" view of
achievements of a person with disability only reinforces the stereotype.
And
by the way, I am enjoying this discussion because it is not often that I
get
the opportunity to think about this kind of stuff and also get to know
how
other people perceive this very important issue.

Rahul

2010/1/28 Subramani L 

> Again I don't question the accuracy of your argument, but if someone
is
> limited in some ways by his/her disability they overcome it either
> through other's support or by their own extraordinary efforts. You
can't
> say Beethoven has not lead a fulfilling life because he was unable to
> experience the beauty of his own compositions. Or for that matter, you
> can't dismiss Eric Vihenmire (forgive the spelling), for not having
> enjoyed the breathtaking view standing on top of Mt Everest. These are
> ways of overcoming disability too, though not in the way it is
normally
> perceived. If we keep putting disability in front of them, as if it is
> an insurmountable barrier (or at least that is how the argument would
> sound to someone desperate to prove those who doubt his abilities),
are
> we not guilty of breaking whatever little confidence they may have?
> Don't you think that we need to take a compassionate view of a
person's
> accomplishment rather than taking the "right" view? (hey Rajesh I am
> trying to raise questions in order to keep the argument healthier, am
> sorry if you think this is offensive in any way. Also believe this is
> not deemed off topic or excessive, since these viewpoints clarify how
as
> persons with disabilities we regard ourselves).
> Subramani
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
> Rajesh
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:26 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME
>
> Well Subramani,
> I am not objecting calling excellent as excellent, but disability is
> overcome when either a person does something which that particular
> disability prevents her from doing, or when she/he leads a fulfilling
> life in the general parlance.
> Spade may be called spade and not a saw.
> So, we may say that an autistic person is a memory wizard or something
> else, however, saying that he has overcome his disability connotes
that
> his life is fulfilling according to generally accepted yardstics,
which
> more often than not, is not the case.
> Let me hasten to add that a fulfilling life, though a subjective
concept
> does include some essential experiences and pleasures without which it
> may justly be said to be lopsided or unfulfilling.
>
>
> Regards
>
> "Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create
> Him."
>
>--Arthur C. Clarke
>
> (Rajesh Asudani)
>
> Assistant General Manager,
> Reserve Bank of India
> Nagpur
> 09420397185
> O: 0712 2806676
> Res: 0712 2591349
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani
L
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:23 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME
>
> Sorry Rajesh. I always approved your comments on many topics, but here
I
> guess there is no harm in saying a person is excellent if he/she is
> indeed excellent.Considering the odds the person is against, the
> accomplishment is great. The scientific facts that you have given is
> beyond question, but if you go by that standard you can not call
Albert
> Einstein a great scientist since he seems to have had very different
> brain formation and also is an autistic person.
>
> Subramani
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
> Rajesh
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:10 AM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME
>
> Okay, these may surely inspire some, but 

Re: [AI] JAWS 10 and hindi

[Asudani, Rajesh]

Hi Suman kumar
It does work and I have done it.
However, I like Lekha much beeter than this espeak voice, for the fact that 
pronunciations of lekha are slightly better and also not less for the fact that 
it is a female voice.
Thanks anyway


Regards

"Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him."

--Arthur C. Clarke

(Rajesh Asudani)

Assistant General Manager,
Reserve Bank of India
Nagpur
09420397185
O: 0712 2806676
Res: 0712 2591349



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of suman bhokray
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 12:59 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] JAWS 10 and hindi

hi download the file from
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3694147/espeak-1.42.30-win/espeak-1.42.30-win/setup_espeak.exe
now open it and click next
click next again
at this stage you need to enter voice codes
first 2 boxes r all reddy entered
go to the emty box and type
hi+f7
it should be the same
click next
now click instal
the setup starts
when dun uncheck readme and click feenish
thats! it!
now tell jaws to use this hindi voice
open jaws
go to options menu
go to voices sub menu
click global voices
click sapy5 at sinthasizer box
click hindi at language box
enjoy hindi jaws for free
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On 1/29/10, Amiyo Biswas  wrote:
> Hello,
> I have Lekha and it's pretty good for Hindi. I don't know if it is free or
> not. It never asks for license key or anything like that. Moreover, once
> installed, it works with both Jaws and NVDA. I believe, it's free. Write to
> me privately if you want me to upload it. If it is not free, please let me
> know.
>
> With Best regards,
> Amiyo Biswas.
> Cell: 91-9433464329
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rohith P" 
> To: ; 
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 7:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] JAWS 10 and hindi
>
>
>> hi
>> is lekha a free software? where do i get it from?
>> thanks
>> rohith
>>
>>
>> On 1/28/10, Swati Sinha  wrote:
>>> Install lekha.
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> With regards,
>>> Swati Sinha
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
>>> Rajesh
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:18 PM
>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> Subject: [AI] JAWS 10 and hindi
>>>
>>> Friends
>>> I have jaws 10 installed on PC without JAWS 9.
>>> Now, how can I make it read Hindi?
>>> Rajesh
>>>
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Re: [AI] info on availability of braille embossers in india.

[surya narayana]

Hi sir,
you can contact Karishma enterprises mumbai. they are available.
Yours,
Surya.

On 1/29/10, solomon s  wrote:
> Hello access indians! Greetings to you all! A resource teacher with a school
> is looking for cost effective brail embosser. Could somebody in this list
> provide contact information of NGO/enterprise?  What about  webel
> mediatronics, kolkata? Your valuable suggestions/help is urgent. Hoping to
> hearing from you soon. With warm regards solomon. teachs...@gmail.com
>
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