[AI] Ludhiana: Many stumbling blocks in way of disability certificates

[avinash shahi]

http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/ludhiana/community/many-stumbling-blocks-in-way-of-disability-certificates/183294.html
Manav Mander

Tribune News Service

Ludhiana, January 13
 Those who want to make their disability certificates from the civil
surgeon’s office have to pass through various hurdles and have sought
to get their certificates made from home as voter cards.
Forms accepted only on Thursdays
 Arvinder Kaur, a resident from Shimlapuri who went to the civil
surgeon’s office to make her disability certificate, had to return
empty-handed and was unable to even submit her form as the forms of
the handicaps are accepted only on Thursdays.
“Despite being handicapped, I had to go all the way to the civil
surgeon’s office to submit my form. After I reached, I came to know
that I had to come again on Thursday as the forms are accepted only
on Thursdays. This is not fair, as the handicaps are already
dependent on someone. Even then the authorities want them to make the
rounds of the department,” Arvinder said.

Dependence on relatives
 Arvinder’s relative Navreet Singh said the department should start
making certificates of the disabled by visiting their homes. “The
disabled should be registered the same way as voter cards are made so
that they could get their certificates in a similar fashion,” he said.
Using internet not everyone’s cup of tea
 Harvinder Singh, another visitor at the civil surgeon’s office who
had come to make his disability certificate, said: “At first I didn’t
had access to the internet and could not download the form. I then
bought it from outside the civil surgeon’s office for Rs 20 and since
it was in English, I had to get it filled from someone by paying Rs
60. Forms should be available at the counters as everybody is not
well-versed with the internet and applications should be accepted on
all days of the week rather than only once a week as it become very
difficult to visit again,” he said.

Other formalities
 Harmeet Kaur is happy that she got her disabled certificate made but
her woes did not end here as she had to open a bank account to get
pension as well.
“I was happy that I had made my disabled certificate, but now the
department says that I will have to open a bank account also to get
pension as the money will be directly deposited in it. I have never
done such bank jobs and both my sons are working out of station and
come home on weekends when the bank is closed. I will hav

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Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU


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[AI] Invitation for radioudaan convention 2016

[Radio Udaan]

Dear All,
 With all your constant, monumental shore up, Radio Udaan feels
immense to invite you to its Second convention “Udaan Convention 2016”
which is going to be conducted on January 30th 2016. As part of
Udaan’s mission to India, this time we are going to organize the
convention at the land of 5 Rivers! The Udaan Convention 2016 is going
to be at Ludhiana Punjab. The venue and the registration procedures
are as follows.
Venue: Braille Bhawan, Jamalpur Ludhiana.
Registration: INR. 500 per Head is for those who directly appear at
the venue on January 30 2016,
Note: We have only 100 Registrations, so Registration will be on first
come first serve basis.
The Convention will be felicitated by Mr. Surjit Kumar Jyani
Department of Social Security, Health and Women and Child Development,
Mr. Ranjit Singh Dhillo Member of Legislative Assembly Ludhiana,
Virender Kaur Thandi Chairperson, Social Welfare Board Government of
Punjab, Mr. C. Ravindran Director VRTCPunjab, Mrs. Harsimrat Kaur
Badal Member of Parliament, Mr. Rakesh Kapoor Chief Executive Officer
Paramount Impex Punjab, Dr. Madhu Singal Founder Member Mitra Jyoti
Bangalore and Dr. Ramesh Kumar Sarin General Secretary Progressive
Society New Delhi.
The tentative convention agenda followed by the mode for registration
is as follows:
*   (09:30 AM) Sarasvati Vandana.
*   (09:40 AM) Inauguration Ceremony followed by welcome note.
* (10:00 Am) Honouring The Chief Guests.
*  (10:05 AM) Honouring the RJs.
*   (10:15 AM) Address by guest of Honor.
*   (10:30 AM) Press conference.
*   (11:30 AM) Tea break.
*   (11:45 AM) Stage play by Radio Udaan presenters, directed by
Danish Mahajan.
*   (12:30 PM) Presentation By RJ Divya Sharma Topic: Positive Inclusion.
*   (01:00 PM) Lunch break.
*   (02:00 PM) Presentation on the 20 years PWD act of 1995 By
Prof Dr. R.K. Sarin.
(* (2:30PM) Presentation by Dr. Madhu Singhal Topic: Education,
Employment and Matrimonial Challenges In Front Of The Visually
Impaired Female.
* (03:00PM) group activities and special game show for all.
* (04:00 PM) Validictory and Vote of Thanks by Minal Singhvi
Director Udaan Welfare Society Cum Radio Udaan.
*   (04:15 PM) Cultural evening, session will include music, singing,
orchestra, poem etc.
*   (07:30 PM) Dinner.
Mode of Registration:
Deposit the amount into the following account to fill the registration
form on our Website www.radioudaan.com .
account holder
udaan welfare society
account #
3106000100345872
i f s c code
punb0310600
punjab national bank
branch shahpur kandi,
city pathankot,
Punjab.
For details, Kindly contact the below number.
Mob, 9463668196.

Thanks And Regards,
Radio Udaan Team.


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Re: [AI] Blind can record answers

[P. Subramani]

you are absolutely right on this,  I never meant to  condemn others 
viewpoints,  my viewpoint is why not have choices and let the individual 
have the choice

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- Original Message - 
From: "George Abraham" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" 

Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind can record answers


There are different views on any subject. All may not agree with what is 
written on the list. They are free to express their views. Even the well 
settled persons also have thoughts that they are welcome to share. Such 
discussions give us perspectives.


What one takes away from a discussion depends on how one looks at life. 
All the so called well placed people in this country have also struggled 
and faced up to challenges. What largely singles them out is their 
attitude and approach and willingness to adapt and innovate. Let us not 
condemn or look down on them.


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Subject: Re: [AI] Blind can record answers

I don't understand the big fuss created on this topic, obviously
computer-users will not resort to recording answers, most will definitely
use scribes and only a few individuals as a last  option may opt for
recording,  it should be individual's choice having varous options are by 
no

means a bad thing
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From: "Vedprakash" 

To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.'" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind can record answers



Tape-recording answers is dangerous.
Firstly, the pronunciation part.
I can furnish numerous examples in Hindi, where different people 
pronounce

the same word differently due to regional considerations.
Secondly, when we record an answer, little time is left for the process 
of

thinking. Either you pause the recording frequently, or you have to speak
flawlessly and continuously.
During the recording, a shrill horn from a nearby vehicle may disturb the
recording and the checker may not get the recording correctly.
Many more such disturbances may occur resulting in a bad recording.
Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of Kakarla Nageswaraiah
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 6:30 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind can record answers

What if the tape-recorder malfunctions?  In 2002, my typewriter didn't
work when I went to DU to appear for the exams for the post of typist.
Multiple options may be given to the blind for writing exams.  At the 
same

time, teachers should prepare the students to the extent of securing good
marks on their own without expecting the scribes to compensate for the
poor preparation and/or negligence of the students.

Regards.


On 1/12/16, Vidhya Y  wrote:

what about math? tell it like a Poem?
typing would be fair instead of recording.
the Sighted write so we should type!
that way teachers can deduct marks for spelling mistakes and so on in
case of English Language.
for this, students should be introduced to assistive technology early
on, which may take time, but not impossible.
liberal evaluation/ grace marks as mentioned in the article is given
to all special Students.
which would make the blind incompetent  if practiced.
I agree that these initiatives maybe desirable for learning and
complex disabilities!
many of the policies that come up are not  well thought off in advance.
I feel the government should consult the disabled first, as these
policies are used by us and not those who make the policy.

On 1/12/16, Aravind R  wrote:

then, our recorded answers should be crisp and clear to attract
listeners who put marks. if we tell answers slowly or if we want to
change what we said, deleting old recording and inserting new will be
tedius and time consuming.
i prefer typing through screen readers else writers should continue.

On 1/12/16, raaju  wrote:

Oh my gosh! I can't speak my answer by recording. I preffer computer
writing or exam in Braille.

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Re: [AI] Invitation for radioudaan convention 2016

[avinash shahi]

Dear Radio Udaan Team, I'm not apt in doing banking transaction
online,therefore will pay the registration fee on arrival. I'll be in
the city on 30th however will not need accommodation. You are kindly
requested to reserve my registration slot confirmed. imagining forward
to meeting you all hardworking RJs and the other localites. All the
very best for the Convention.

On 1/14/16, Radio Udaan  wrote:
> Dear All,
>  With all your constant, monumental shore up, Radio Udaan feels
> immense to invite you to its Second convention “Udaan Convention 2016”
> which is going to be conducted on January 30th 2016. As part of
> Udaan’s mission to India, this time we are going to organize the
> convention at the land of 5 Rivers! The Udaan Convention 2016 is going
> to be at Ludhiana Punjab. The venue and the registration procedures
> are as follows.
> Venue: Braille Bhawan, Jamalpur Ludhiana.
> Registration: INR. 500 per Head is for those who directly appear at
> the venue on January 30 2016,
> Note: We have only 100 Registrations, so Registration will be on first
> come first serve basis.
> The Convention will be felicitated by Mr. Surjit Kumar Jyani
> Department of Social Security, Health and Women and Child Development,
> Mr. Ranjit Singh Dhillo Member of Legislative Assembly Ludhiana,
> Virender Kaur Thandi Chairperson, Social Welfare Board Government of
> Punjab, Mr. C. Ravindran Director VRTCPunjab, Mrs. Harsimrat Kaur
> Badal Member of Parliament, Mr. Rakesh Kapoor Chief Executive Officer
> Paramount Impex Punjab, Dr. Madhu Singal Founder Member Mitra Jyoti
> Bangalore and Dr. Ramesh Kumar Sarin General Secretary Progressive
> Society New Delhi.
> The tentative convention agenda followed by the mode for registration
> is as follows:
> *   (09:30 AM) Sarasvati Vandana.
> *   (09:40 AM) Inauguration Ceremony followed by welcome note.
> * (10:00 Am) Honouring The Chief Guests.
> *  (10:05 AM) Honouring the RJs.
> *   (10:15 AM) Address by guest of Honor.
> *   (10:30 AM) Press conference.
> *   (11:30 AM) Tea break.
> *   (11:45 AM) Stage play by Radio Udaan presenters, directed by
> Danish Mahajan.
> *   (12:30 PM) Presentation By RJ Divya Sharma Topic: Positive
> Inclusion.
> *   (01:00 PM) Lunch break.
> *   (02:00 PM) Presentation on the 20 years PWD act of 1995 By
> Prof Dr. R.K. Sarin.
> (* (2:30PM) Presentation by Dr. Madhu Singhal Topic: Education,
> Employment and Matrimonial Challenges In Front Of The Visually
> Impaired Female.
> * (03:00PM) group activities and special game show for all.
> * (04:00 PM) Validictory and Vote of Thanks by Minal Singhvi
> Director Udaan Welfare Society Cum Radio Udaan.
> *   (04:15 PM) Cultural evening, session will include music, singing,
> orchestra, poem etc.
> *   (07:30 PM) Dinner.
> Mode of Registration:
> Deposit the amount into the following account to fill the registration
> form on our Website www.radioudaan.com .
> account holder
> udaan welfare society
> account #
> 3106000100345872
> i f s c code
> punb0310600
> punjab national bank
> branch shahpur kandi,
> city pathankot,
> Punjab.
> For details, Kindly contact the below number.
> Mob, 9463668196.
>
> Thanks And Regards,
> Radio Udaan Team.
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Re: [AI] Railways' showcase coach a hurdle for disabled

[vivek doddamani]

Friend, where will this coach be attached I mean in between train or
as now it is at the end of train where disabled persons will find to
get any eatables on stations.

On 1/14/16, Nilesh Bendre  wrote:
> Why  so much of negligence?
>
>
>
> Railways' showcase coach a hurdle for disabled
>
>
>
> | TNN | Jan 14, 2016, 04.34 AM IST
>
> NEW DELHI: The railways has put on display a "model disabled-friendly"
> coach
> on which no mobility-impaired person can get into without help. The coach
> has no ramp or hydraulic lift to facilitate boarding and alighting.
>
>  The reason given for the omission is even more shocking, according to
> activists who visited the Safdarjung station where the coach is being
> displayed. A railway official apparently told them no such facility was
> being provided because, on one occasion, the train had left without the
> ramps being removed.
>
>  The activists, from the National Centre for Promotion of Employment for
> Disabled People in India, described the coach as an example of "further
> discrimination" against the disabled. The model rake was inspected by
> railway minister Suresh Prabhu on Monday.
>
>  The much publicized coaches have also been criticised for not having
> braille and other signages for visually and hearing impaired travellers.
>
>  Terming the changes introduced in the coach as superficial, disabled
> rights' groups said that introduction of a single such coach in a train
> further discriminated against persons with disalibilities by excluding them
> from other passegners.
>
>  In their report, the activists who visited the model coach on Tuesday said
> they were told that "only refurbishing of interiors" had been done on the
> bogie. Hence measurement wise it was the same as other coaches.
>
>  According to Javed Abidi, convener, Disabled Right's Group, the decade-old
> problem of getting inside the train on wheelchairs remained unaddressed.
> "About 95% of railway coaches are of a particular design and their doors
> are
> not wide enough for wheelchair access," he said.
>
>  "The primary issue is getting on to the coach from the platform. I have
> travelled in America, Europe, Malayasia and South Africa. They have
> portable
> hydraulic lifts, which are just platforms that can be raised to the level
> of
> the train's floor. It is a very dignified and safe way for a person with
> disabilities to board and alight from the train. Why we are not able to do
> that in India?" asked Abidi.
>
>
>
> Activists such as Abidi, paralympic athelete Pradeep Raj and Dr Satendra
> Singh, coordinator, enabling unit, University College of Medical Sciences,
> also questioned the idea of have one or two exclusive coaches for the
> disabled in a train, terming this as "apartheid" against the disabled.
>
>  The Prime Minister in Mann Ki Baat had categorically called for better
> access for the disabled. Even railway minister Suresh Prabhu had asked
> officials to look into the proposals made by NCPEDP after his meeting with
> activists on September 1, 2015.
>
>
>
> "The officials are dragging their feet," said Abidi. "This is no longer be
> acceptable to us. Why not make all coaches accessible and give the disabled
> the option travelling in various classes such as sleeper, three-tier AC,
> two-tier etc? We know all coaches cannot be made accessible overnight, but
> it can be done in a staggered manner."
>
>
>
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Railways-showcase-coach-a-hurdle-fo
> r-disabled/articleshow/50570167.cms
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AI] Mix and Match My article published in today's Hindu Business Line

[Renuka Warriar Edakkunni]

Very nice article Rekha.  Congrats.

Renuka.

On 1/14/16, avinash shahi  wrote:
> Excellent write-up. Way to go.
>
>
> On 1/13/16, REKHA REVATHY  wrote:
>> Dear All
>> Hope all are doing good. Below I am pasteing my article published in
>> today's Hindu Business Line. Hope all will like it.
>> Mix and match
>> Rekha Revathy
>> On inclusive education for the differently-able
>> The concept of inclusion is considered important in all fields
>> nowadays. Inclusive education for differently-abled children is one
>> such attempt to include children with various kinds of disabilities in
>> normal schools
>> The idea is that through inclusive education, differently-abled
>> children will get an opportunity to mingle with normal children from
>> an early age. It will help increase their confidence level, improving
>> their competency, and they will be able to boldly express their talent
>> before others. This will ultimately lead to bringing the
>> differently-abled into the mainstream at at early age
>> That said, there are many challenges in the effective implementation
>> of this programme. I was a blind learner in a normal school in Kerala.
>> I was fully unaware of my community in my childhood
>> As a blind person, I was not able to learn Braille. In many
>> situations, I ended up having to identify my issues and discuss them
>> with my parents and teachers.
>> In my case I was lucky enough to have cooperative and helpful teachers
>> when I was in elementary school. And I was also lucky enough to have a
>> little vision during that time. But not everyone is that fortunate
>> Here, the issue is that children may not be able to rightly
>> communicate their problems. And in many cases they will be hesitant to
>> express their problems.
>> A differently-abled child in a normal school requires special
>> attention on many fronts. Of course, many such issues can be avoided
>> by putting a differently-abled child in a special school. For example,
>> a blind child can learn Braille only in a special school
>> But that’s not possible for all such children. So there is a need to
>> find ways to provide for the special needs of differently-abled
>> children in a normal school itself, otherwise inclusive education
>> cannot be effective.
>> The teachers also need to be sensitised as well as trained to handle
>> mixed classes, which include the differently-abled.
>> For instance, even though I used to sit in the front row, especially
>> in mathematics classes, I usually ended up with lots of confusion and
>> doubt. When I reached the 8th standard, I started recording my classes
>> and learned by listening to themrepeatedly.
>> But teachers do not always say all the things they write on the
>> blackboard. And when I approached them with my doubts, they were also
>> confused about how they could help me.
>> There is a need for well-trained teachers, who can handle accessible
>> technology for differently-abled children and help them in tackling
>> their specific problems. Special coaching classes for
>> differently-abled children in accessible techniques should be given.
>> Special counselling should be given to parents of such children and to
>> teachers as well
>> It is important to think about providing all the facilities needed for
>> a differently-abled child in a normal school before sending them to
>> normal schools, rather than special schools.In my opinion — shared by
>> many differently-abled people — it is better to teach a
>> differently-abled child in a special school until 7th standard or so,
>> and then put them in an integrated system. If we could provide special
>> attention and facilities in a normal school itself, we can also make
>> them learn along with other children.
>> It is necessary to improve the infrastructure and quality of learning
>> and teaching in special schools because these changes can be
>> incorporated in regular schools gradually.
>> The writer is a bank employee
>>
>>
>> Thanks & Regards
>> Rekha
>>
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Re: [AI] Blind can record answers

[sanjay]

Please forget about cassette recorders and cassette players.   They are out 
of the market now. 




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[AI] accessibility of MS access

[sanjay]

Friends,
I was able to use ms access in Office xp and office 2003.  From Office 2007 
onwards, I am struggling to create tables in ms access.
If anybody is using ms access from office 2007 onwards, please guide me.
thanks.

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Re: [AI] Blind can record answers

[Misbah]

Again my dispassionate objective analyses practically speak, in terms
of taking on board all segments of VI’s, rural/urban, affluent/poor,
Dalit/Brahman: the traditional system of amanuenses has no replacement
despite its obvious limitations. I strongly argue for the same given
the actual scenario of majority blind persons in rural India.

On 1/14/16, sanjay  wrote:
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[AI] share my openion on mix and match regarding

[SHANKAR DIGUVAPALLI]

i studyed in an integrated school in venkatagiri i could mingle with
normal students. some of my normal friends learnt braille and wrote
notes in braille and helped me. there are problems in learning
mathematics i agree. but over all inclusive education gives an
opportunity to inclusive society. hope to discuss more on this topic.

On 1/13/16, REKHA REVATHY  wrote:
> Dear All
> Hope all are doing good. Below I am pasteing my article published in
> today's Hindu Business Line. Hope all will like it.
> Mix and match
> Rekha Revathy
> On inclusive education for the differently-able
> The concept of inclusion is considered important in all fields
> nowadays. Inclusive education for differently-abled children is one
> such attempt to include children with various kinds of disabilities in
> normal schools
> The idea is that through inclusive education, differently-abled
> children will get an opportunity to mingle with normal children from
> an early age. It will help increase their confidence level, improving
> their competency, and they will be able to boldly express their talent
> before others. This will ultimately lead to bringing the
> differently-abled into the mainstream at at early age
> That said, there are many challenges in the effective implementation
> of this programme. I was a blind learner in a normal school in Kerala.
> I was fully unaware of my community in my childhood
> As a blind person, I was not able to learn Braille. In many
> situations, I ended up having to identify my issues and discuss them
> with my parents and teachers.
> In my case I was lucky enough to have cooperative and helpful teachers
> when I was in elementary school. And I was also lucky enough to have a
> little vision during that time. But not everyone is that fortunate
> Here, the issue is that children may not be able to rightly
> communicate their problems. And in many cases they will be hesitant to
> express their problems.
> A differently-abled child in a normal school requires special
> attention on many fronts. Of course, many such issues can be avoided
> by putting a differently-abled child in a special school. For example,
> a blind child can learn Braille only in a special school
> But that’s not possible for all such children. So there is a need to
> find ways to provide for the special needs of differently-abled
> children in a normal school itself, otherwise inclusive education
> cannot be effective.
> The teachers also need to be sensitised as well as trained to handle
> mixed classes, which include the differently-abled.
> For instance, even though I used to sit in the front row, especially
> in mathematics classes, I usually ended up with lots of confusion and
> doubt. When I reached the 8th standard, I started recording my classes
> and learned by listening to themrepeatedly.
> But teachers do not always say all the things they write on the
> blackboard. And when I approached them with my doubts, they were also
> confused about how they could help me.
> There is a need for well-trained teachers, who can handle accessible
> technology for differently-abled children and help them in tackling
> their specific problems. Special coaching classes for
> differently-abled children in accessible techniques should be given.
> Special counselling should be given to parents of such children and to
> teachers as well
> It is important to think about providing all the facilities needed for
> a differently-abled child in a normal school before sending them to
> normal schools, rather than special schools.In my opinion — shared by
> many differently-abled people — it is better to teach a
> differently-abled child in a special school until 7th standard or so,
> and then put them in an integrated system. If we could provide special
> attention and facilities in a normal school itself, we can also make
> them learn along with other children.
> It is necessary to improve the infrastructure and quality of learning
> and teaching in special schools because these changes can be
> incorporated in regular schools gradually.
> The writer is a bank employee
>
>
> Thanks & Regards
> Rekha
>
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Re: [AI] share my openion on mix and match regarding

[bala9119]

Welll, an interesting topic which kindled me to write.
after finishing 10th standard in the special school in Tamil Medium,
I've joined Ramakrishna Mission Main Highersecondary School Chennai.
at that time, i am not aware of resource teachers and integrated
schools, just joined with sighted and pursued my 11th and 12th. in the
beginning I've enrolled myself into 11th standard Tamil Medium, later
some of my elders heard about JAWS and Computer hence told me to
change the medium of instruction to English. in Tamil Medium i had
History with Commerce and Accountancy but in English i have to choose
either Business Mathematics or Computer Science and I've opted for
Business Mathematics. that's where i learnt about life. the special
schools have turned me a strong Metal, but the integrated school only
made me a Sword. many of my teachers of the special school criticized
my intention to join in sighted school stating that the people will
psychologically abuse me, or i will not be in a position to bear the
negligence. unfortunate to their comments, my sighted friends turned
this new English learner to become the division topper in 12th
standard board exam. as a person failed in business maths in 11th
standard whent on to score school first in the board exam because of
the sighted friends who spent their Saturdays and sundays in coaching
me. apart from education, i've experienced equality in students
livelihood as i've learnt to bunk the classes. this may sound silly
but in my view every student must experience the thrill of it at least
once in their life which is rare in special schools. besides all, the
most important benefit i've gained from the integrated school is my
"right to sexual orientation." if you can be flexible with the
sighted, even Mathematics is not your problem.
cheers.
On 1/15/16, SHANKAR DIGUVAPALLI  wrote:
> i studyed in an integrated school in venkatagiri i could mingle with
> normal students. some of my normal friends learnt braille and wrote
> notes in braille and helped me. there are problems in learning
> mathematics i agree. but over all inclusive education gives an
> opportunity to inclusive society. hope to discuss more on this topic.
>
> On 1/13/16, REKHA REVATHY  wrote:
>> Dear All
>> Hope all are doing good. Below I am pasteing my article published in
>> today's Hindu Business Line. Hope all will like it.
>> Mix and match
>> Rekha Revathy
>> On inclusive education for the differently-able
>> The concept of inclusion is considered important in all fields
>> nowadays. Inclusive education for differently-abled children is one
>> such attempt to include children with various kinds of disabilities in
>> normal schools
>> The idea is that through inclusive education, differently-abled
>> children will get an opportunity to mingle with normal children from
>> an early age. It will help increase their confidence level, improving
>> their competency, and they will be able to boldly express their talent
>> before others. This will ultimately lead to bringing the
>> differently-abled into the mainstream at at early age
>> That said, there are many challenges in the effective implementation
>> of this programme. I was a blind learner in a normal school in Kerala.
>> I was fully unaware of my community in my childhood
>> As a blind person, I was not able to learn Braille. In many
>> situations, I ended up having to identify my issues and discuss them
>> with my parents and teachers.
>> In my case I was lucky enough to have cooperative and helpful teachers
>> when I was in elementary school. And I was also lucky enough to have a
>> little vision during that time. But not everyone is that fortunate
>> Here, the issue is that children may not be able to rightly
>> communicate their problems. And in many cases they will be hesitant to
>> express their problems.
>> A differently-abled child in a normal school requires special
>> attention on many fronts. Of course, many such issues can be avoided
>> by putting a differently-abled child in a special school. For example,
>> a blind child can learn Braille only in a special school
>> But that’s not possible for all such children. So there is a need to
>> find ways to provide for the special needs of differently-abled
>> children in a normal school itself, otherwise inclusive education
>> cannot be effective.
>> The teachers also need to be sensitised as well as trained to handle
>> mixed classes, which include the differently-abled.
>> For instance, even though I used to sit in the front row, especially
>> in mathematics classes, I usually ended up with lots of confusion and
>> doubt. When I reached the 8th standard, I started recording my classes
>> and learned by listening to themrepeatedly.
>> But teachers do not always say all the things they write on the
>> blackboard. And when I approached them with my doubts, they were also
>> confused about how they could help me.
>> There is a need for 

Re: [AI] share my openion on mix and match regarding

[George Abraham]

Refreshing to hear! Friends truly can be really nice and helpful!

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
SHANKAR DIGUVAPALLI
Sent: 15 January 2016 06:13
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: [AI] share my openion on mix and match regarding

i studyed in an integrated school in venkatagiri i could mingle with
normal students. some of my normal friends learnt braille and wrote
notes in braille and helped me. there are problems in learning
mathematics i agree. but over all inclusive education gives an
opportunity to inclusive society. hope to discuss more on this topic.

On 1/13/16, REKHA REVATHY  wrote:
> Dear All
> Hope all are doing good. Below I am pasteing my article published in
> today's Hindu Business Line. Hope all will like it.
> Mix and match
> Rekha Revathy
> On inclusive education for the differently-able
> The concept of inclusion is considered important in all fields
> nowadays. Inclusive education for differently-abled children is one
> such attempt to include children with various kinds of disabilities in
> normal schools
> The idea is that through inclusive education, differently-abled
> children will get an opportunity to mingle with normal children from
> an early age. It will help increase their confidence level, improving
> their competency, and they will be able to boldly express their talent
> before others. This will ultimately lead to bringing the
> differently-abled into the mainstream at at early age
> That said, there are many challenges in the effective implementation
> of this programme. I was a blind learner in a normal school in Kerala.
> I was fully unaware of my community in my childhood
> As a blind person, I was not able to learn Braille. In many
> situations, I ended up having to identify my issues and discuss them
> with my parents and teachers.
> In my case I was lucky enough to have cooperative and helpful teachers
> when I was in elementary school. And I was also lucky enough to have a
> little vision during that time. But not everyone is that fortunate
> Here, the issue is that children may not be able to rightly
> communicate their problems. And in many cases they will be hesitant to
> express their problems.
> A differently-abled child in a normal school requires special
> attention on many fronts. Of course, many such issues can be avoided
> by putting a differently-abled child in a special school. For example,
> a blind child can learn Braille only in a special school
> But that’s not possible for all such children. So there is a need to
> find ways to provide for the special needs of differently-abled
> children in a normal school itself, otherwise inclusive education
> cannot be effective.
> The teachers also need to be sensitised as well as trained to handle
> mixed classes, which include the differently-abled.
> For instance, even though I used to sit in the front row, especially
> in mathematics classes, I usually ended up with lots of confusion and
> doubt. When I reached the 8th standard, I started recording my classes
> and learned by listening to themrepeatedly.
> But teachers do not always say all the things they write on the
> blackboard. And when I approached them with my doubts, they were also
> confused about how they could help me.
> There is a need for well-trained teachers, who can handle accessible
> technology for differently-abled children and help them in tackling
> their specific problems. Special coaching classes for
> differently-abled children in accessible techniques should be given.
> Special counselling should be given to parents of such children and to
> teachers as well
> It is important to think about providing all the facilities needed for
> a differently-abled child in a normal school before sending them to
> normal schools, rather than special schools.In my opinion — shared by
> many differently-abled people — it is better to teach a
> differently-abled child in a special school until 7th standard or so,
> and then put them in an integrated system. If we could provide special
> attention and facilities in a normal school itself, we can also make
> them learn along with other children.
> It is necessary to improve the infrastructure and quality of learning
> and teaching in special schools because these changes can be
> incorporated in regular schools gradually.
> The writer is a bank employee
>
>
> Thanks & Regards
> Rekha
>
>
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Re: [AI] Invitation to witness the First T-20 Asia Cup Cricket Tournament for blind at Kochi, Kerala

[Manjunatha V]

Dear Anil Kumar,

Well. Is there going to be commentary of the matches available? I am Excited. 
All the very best team India! Jai ho!!!

With regards,
Manjunatha V...

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Anil Kumar
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 11:08 AMWill there be 
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Invitation to witness the First T-20 Asia Cup Cricket Tournament 
for blind at Kochi, Kerala

Dear All,

Greetings From Cricket Association for Blind in Kerala (CABK)

It gives us immense pleasure and pride to invite you to witness the
First T-20 Asia Cup Cricket Tournament for blind jointly organised by
Cricket Association for Blind in Kerala (CABK and Cricket Association
for the Blind in India (CABI), from 17-01-2016 to 24-01-2016 at
JawaharLal Nehru International Stadium, Kochi (Schedule is furnished
below).  Apart from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Srilanka and Nepal
would participate in this event.  This is for the first time that a
Tournament in this kind is being organized in Kerala.

The Hon’ble Chief Minister of Kerala Shri Oommen Chandy has kindly
consented to inaugurate the Opening Ceremony at 04:00PM on
17-Jan-2016.  The Hon’ble Minister for Social Justice and Empowerment
Dr. MK Muneer, Hon’ble Sports Minister Shri Thiruvanchoor
Radhakrishnan, Hon’ble Excise Minister Shri K. Babu, Shri Mahantesh
G.K. General Secretary (CABI), Shri Nagesh, President (CABI), Shri TC
Mathew, President (KCA) & VicePresident (BCCI), Shri Sultan Shah
President (World Blind Cricket Council), Officials of CABK and CABI
etc would also attend the function.

The Closing Ceremony will be held at 03:00PM on 24-Jan-2016 at JNI
Stadium Kochi in which Hon’ble Home Minister of Kerala Shri Ramesh
Chennithala, Hon’ble Power Minister Shri Aryadan Mohammed, Super Film
Star Shri Prithviraj, etc would attend.  Shri George Abraham, CEO
Score Foundation, who is founder of cricket for blind would be
felicitated in the closing ceremony.
You all are cordially invited to come and grace the occasion by
witnessing and make it a grant success.

ITINERARY OF THE FIRST EVER T-20 ASIA CUP CRICKET TOURNAMENT FOR THE
BLIND FROM 17th TO 24th JANUARY, 2016 AT JAWAHARLAL NEHRU
INTERNATIONAL STADIUM, KOCHI, KERALA, INDIA.

DateMatch No.   Match Between   Timings 
17-01-2016  Inaugural Function of T-20 Asia Cup Cricket Tournament 
for
Blind   04:00PM

18-01-2016  01  India Vs Bangladesh 09:30AM 
18-01-2016  02  Pakistan Vs Nepal   01:30PM 
19-01-2016  03  Sri Lanka Vs Bangladesh 09:30AM 
19-01-2016  04  India Vs Nepal  01:30PM 
20-01-2016  05  Sri Lanka Vs Nepal  09:30AM 
20-01-2016  06  India Vs Pakistan   01:30PM 
21-01-2016  07  Pakistan Vs Sri Lanka   09:30AM 
21-01-2016  08  Bangladesh Vs Nepal 01:30PM 
22-01-2016  09  Pakistan Vs Bangladesh  09:30AM 
22-01-2016  10  Sri Lanka Vs India  01:30PM 

23-01-2016  Rest day

24-01-2016  11  Final (Top 2 Teams of league)   11:00AM 
24-01-2016  Closing Ceremony03:00PM 

For and on behal of Cricket Association for Blind in Kerala (CABK)

(Anilkumar K.R.)
Vice-President
Cricket Association for Blind in Kerala
(Vision through Cricket)
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Email:a...@cabk.in / cabkker...@gmail.com

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[AI] Equality+20 Campaign commemorates 20 years of India's first disability rights law

[Alex Garcia]

India's India's ... Hello brothers and sisters! I want to share important
message. With my best and kind regards. Alex Garcia - Deafbllnd Brazilian.

Dear All,

We are happy to inform you of the successful completion of our Equality+20
Campaign to commemorate 20 years of India's first disability rights
legislation 'The Disability Act of 1995'. We are overwhelmed by the
unprecedented support that this Campaign received and are grateful to all
our supporters for making it such a resounding success.


The Campaign, launched in July 2015, aimed to highlight achievements
vis-a-vis disability thus far; create a renewed interest in disability
rights among the larger population; and generate public opinion towards
greater inclusion, equality and empowerment, among others This Campaign
included a logo design competition called ‘Signs of the Times’; an
Equality+20 conference; a book titled ’20 Stories of Change’; and a ‘Walk
to Freedom’.



We received over 100 entries for *Signs of the Times*, out of which Amna
Swaleh’s entry was adjudged the winner by a jury comprising Prof. S.
Balaram, Dean, D J Academy of Design; Gargi Sharma, Founder and Principal
Designer, Changing Sky; and Dr. Sruti Mohapatra, Noted Disability Activist
and Chief Executive, Swabhiman.



A two-day nationwide *Conference*, held on 1st and 2nd December, with 150
attendees on each day, was held in Delhi.  The participants included
leading thinkers and stakeholders working on disability rights, relevant
people from the Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment (Department of
Empowerment for People with Disabilities) and other Government officials,
and invitees from the Press.



Shri Thaawar Chand Gehlot, Hon’ble Minister for Social Justice and
Empowerment, formally launched the book ‘*20 Stories of Change’*. Several
of the contributors highlighted in the book were profiled in leading local
and national dailies, spreading our message across the country. Here is the
link to the book .



A symbolic '*Walk to Freedom'* with over 3500 participants was held on
3rd December
to commemorate both the occasion of World Disability Day and 20 years of
the passage of the Act.  The participants included people with
disabilities, their friends, families, and supporters. The walk also saw
Parliamentarians and other dignitaries come out to show their support
towards disability.



All events and initiatives under the Campaign aimed to not just ensure that
the disability movement in India achieves the maximum exposure possible
(and that too at an opportune time, with the Rights of Persons with
Disabilities Bill, 2014 still pending in the Parliament), they also
attempted to spread awareness about the agendas and imperatives to the
farthest reaches of the country.



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Disabled People (NCPEDP)
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Re: [AI] share my openion on mix and match regarding

[vivek doddamani]

I agree to some extent there should be special schools but when child
enters integreated schools there should be special educators who
should be knowing braille in all government & private schools
regarding this I had heard Ministry of HRD has ordered there will be
one special educators in Kendriya Vidyalaya all over india,
accordingly delhi government has started recruiting special teachers
in its schools but on contract basis, I have noticed contract teachers
do not show much interest in educating the students.

On 1/15/16, Vidhya Y  wrote:
> I think special schools should be encouraged till primary level, say
> up to 7th Standard,
> and then the student can think for her/himself, and it becomes easier
> to learn with other students as they would have acquired the Basics of
> dealing with disability in a Special environment.
> I would agree that  this may not apply to kids who have educated
> parents and can arrange for resources right from childhood.
> but majority of India doesn't belong to this category, so special
> schools too should be encouraged.
> I would also mention that being in a special school beyond High school,
> would restrict opportunities, and the student is confined to a
> restricted environment which I think is not good for further
> development of the student.
>
> On 1/15/16, bala9119  wrote:
>> Welll, an interesting topic which kindled me to write.
>> after finishing 10th standard in the special school in Tamil Medium,
>> I've joined Ramakrishna Mission Main Highersecondary School Chennai.
>> at that time, i am not aware of resource teachers and integrated
>> schools, just joined with sighted and pursued my 11th and 12th. in the
>> beginning I've enrolled myself into 11th standard Tamil Medium, later
>> some of my elders heard about JAWS and Computer hence told me to
>> change the medium of instruction to English. in Tamil Medium i had
>> History with Commerce and Accountancy but in English i have to choose
>> either Business Mathematics or Computer Science and I've opted for
>> Business Mathematics. that's where i learnt about life. the special
>> schools have turned me a strong Metal, but the integrated school only
>> made me a Sword. many of my teachers of the special school criticized
>> my intention to join in sighted school stating that the people will
>> psychologically abuse me, or i will not be in a position to bear the
>> negligence. unfortunate to their comments, my sighted friends turned
>> this new English learner to become the division topper in 12th
>> standard board exam. as a person failed in business maths in 11th
>> standard whent on to score school first in the board exam because of
>> the sighted friends who spent their Saturdays and sundays in coaching
>> me. apart from education, i've experienced equality in students
>> livelihood as i've learnt to bunk the classes. this may sound silly
>> but in my view every student must experience the thrill of it at least
>> once in their life which is rare in special schools. besides all, the
>> most important benefit i've gained from the integrated school is my
>> "right to sexual orientation." if you can be flexible with the
>> sighted, even Mathematics is not your problem.
>> cheers.
>> On 1/15/16, SHANKAR DIGUVAPALLI  wrote:
>>> i studyed in an integrated school in venkatagiri i could mingle with
>>> normal students. some of my normal friends learnt braille and wrote
>>> notes in braille and helped me. there are problems in learning
>>> mathematics i agree. but over all inclusive education gives an
>>> opportunity to inclusive society. hope to discuss more on this topic.
>>>
>>> On 1/13/16, REKHA REVATHY  wrote:
 Dear All
 Hope all are doing good. Below I am pasteing my article published in
 today's Hindu Business Line. Hope all will like it.
 Mix and match
 Rekha Revathy
 On inclusive education for the differently-able
 The concept of inclusion is considered important in all fields
 nowadays. Inclusive education for differently-abled children is one
 such attempt to include children with various kinds of disabilities in
 normal schools
 The idea is that through inclusive education, differently-abled
 children will get an opportunity to mingle with normal children from
 an early age. It will help increase their confidence level, improving
 their competency, and they will be able to boldly express their talent
 before others. This will ultimately lead to bringing the
 differently-abled into the mainstream at at early age
 That said, there are many challenges in the effective implementation
 of this programme. I was a blind learner in a normal school in Kerala.
 I was fully unaware of my community in my childhood
 As a blind person, I was not able to learn Braille. In many
 situations, I ended up having to identify my issues and discuss 

[AI] accessible reader to read indian languages on the mobile is now launched!

[mukesh jain]

hello,
Recently, Sparsh Product Dehradun has launched most awaited and highly
useful  app called ‘Accessible Reader’ providing the navigational
support to read the files of various formats like txt, doc, docs, rtf
etc.

I have used this app successfully  on my mobile Moto X 2nd generation
running the android version  6  marshmello. The best advantage of this
app is that you need not to purchase the separate tts to make use of
this software unlike Voice Dream Reader which require you to purchase
the separate tts to read the files like doc docs etc. Also so far  we
do not have any app to read our files in Indian  languages like Hindi,
Marathi etc.

This app is completely free of any adds even running in demo or full version.

Once you open the app, you have the several options presented like
open the file to browse the files located on your mobile using your
integrated file manager, open the last file without repeating the
browse file option as it remembers the file history you have worked
earlier. Multiple  Reading options for instance, read by word,
sentence, paragraph, page and so on. You need to simply tap on your
desired choice and your prefered tts reads to you. It does remember
the last  reading speed of your document, position where you closed
the file so if you open the same file again, you are at the same
position to continue further.

If you are working on larger  documents and tired of reading and if
you would like to relax for sometime, it also gives you the option to
toggle on play/pause. If you require to read the whole document
continuously, you just have to tap on read all button and this app
reads to you the entire document at one go!

Another best option I really enjoyed is that in whichever navigation
you are working with say for instance, word, paragraph etc and if you
missed out to listen, you can tap on repeat button and this app can
repeat  that same occurance  again.

To start using with this app, initially you have to choose between
the engine installed on your mobile. If you have to read the document
in Hindi, you have to select Google TTS or Vocaliser Lekha if
installed. Just make sure that the tts with which you intend to read
the file is different from the default TTS of your phone as you can
not use the default engine to read the files. So once you make the
selection of your prefered engine, you have to choose the voices i.e.
languages like Hindi, English etc depending on the file you want to
read. You need not make this selection everytime when you open this
app as these settings are saved permanently unless you require to
change the same.

Another advantage of this app is especially for beginners who are
finding difficulties reading the documents faster. So you need not go
to the tts settings all the way  to make it slower. You can reduce the
speed of your reading as per your convenience tapping on slower/faster
on the app screen itself. While reading your document, if you wish to
jump quickly on any desired page number at any time, you have to
simply tap on go to page number button and your phone keyboard pops up
at the bottom to enter the page number.

This app also let you see the status of your file informing you the
percentage of file you have red, current  page number etc.

Currently, this app does not  supports pdf file so hoping to have this
format added by them in the future.

So if you are interested to try this app, you can use the following
link to download it’s demo version. The app would work for two minutes
after which it would close. Then you would have to open it again.
The 2 minute restriction would be removed once the application is
activated.

This app is ideally suited for the students, working employees and
each one of us who love to read the documents. I have liked it’s
features very much and purchased the licence for myself. Currently
this app has  not been launched on playstore so you have to contact
it’s developers Sparsh Products personally. Now the download link:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B89WIL0ghBVhTXBPNnFlQXZkcDg/view?usp=sharing

so great initiative by Mr.  Abhinav from sparsh Products to make the
indian languages more accessible on our phone!

Thanks,


-- 
Regards,
Mukesh jain
Email:
mukesh.jai...@gmail.com
mukeshheerachandj...@ntpc.co.in
Skype: mukeshjain211
Mob: 09977165123
"Face your deficiencies and acknowledge them; but do not let them
master you. Let them teach you patience, sweetness, insight. "

Helen Keller


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Re: [AI] share my openion on mix and match regarding

[Vidhya Y]

I think special schools should be encouraged till primary level, say
up to 7th Standard,
and then the student can think for her/himself, and it becomes easier
to learn with other students as they would have acquired the Basics of
dealing with disability in a Special environment.
I would agree that  this may not apply to kids who have educated
parents and can arrange for resources right from childhood.
but majority of India doesn't belong to this category, so special
schools too should be encouraged.
I would also mention that being in a special school beyond High school,
would restrict opportunities, and the student is confined to a
restricted environment which I think is not good for further
development of the student.

On 1/15/16, bala9119  wrote:
> Welll, an interesting topic which kindled me to write.
> after finishing 10th standard in the special school in Tamil Medium,
> I've joined Ramakrishna Mission Main Highersecondary School Chennai.
> at that time, i am not aware of resource teachers and integrated
> schools, just joined with sighted and pursued my 11th and 12th. in the
> beginning I've enrolled myself into 11th standard Tamil Medium, later
> some of my elders heard about JAWS and Computer hence told me to
> change the medium of instruction to English. in Tamil Medium i had
> History with Commerce and Accountancy but in English i have to choose
> either Business Mathematics or Computer Science and I've opted for
> Business Mathematics. that's where i learnt about life. the special
> schools have turned me a strong Metal, but the integrated school only
> made me a Sword. many of my teachers of the special school criticized
> my intention to join in sighted school stating that the people will
> psychologically abuse me, or i will not be in a position to bear the
> negligence. unfortunate to their comments, my sighted friends turned
> this new English learner to become the division topper in 12th
> standard board exam. as a person failed in business maths in 11th
> standard whent on to score school first in the board exam because of
> the sighted friends who spent their Saturdays and sundays in coaching
> me. apart from education, i've experienced equality in students
> livelihood as i've learnt to bunk the classes. this may sound silly
> but in my view every student must experience the thrill of it at least
> once in their life which is rare in special schools. besides all, the
> most important benefit i've gained from the integrated school is my
> "right to sexual orientation." if you can be flexible with the
> sighted, even Mathematics is not your problem.
> cheers.
> On 1/15/16, SHANKAR DIGUVAPALLI  wrote:
>> i studyed in an integrated school in venkatagiri i could mingle with
>> normal students. some of my normal friends learnt braille and wrote
>> notes in braille and helped me. there are problems in learning
>> mathematics i agree. but over all inclusive education gives an
>> opportunity to inclusive society. hope to discuss more on this topic.
>>
>> On 1/13/16, REKHA REVATHY  wrote:
>>> Dear All
>>> Hope all are doing good. Below I am pasteing my article published in
>>> today's Hindu Business Line. Hope all will like it.
>>> Mix and match
>>> Rekha Revathy
>>> On inclusive education for the differently-able
>>> The concept of inclusion is considered important in all fields
>>> nowadays. Inclusive education for differently-abled children is one
>>> such attempt to include children with various kinds of disabilities in
>>> normal schools
>>> The idea is that through inclusive education, differently-abled
>>> children will get an opportunity to mingle with normal children from
>>> an early age. It will help increase their confidence level, improving
>>> their competency, and they will be able to boldly express their talent
>>> before others. This will ultimately lead to bringing the
>>> differently-abled into the mainstream at at early age
>>> That said, there are many challenges in the effective implementation
>>> of this programme. I was a blind learner in a normal school in Kerala.
>>> I was fully unaware of my community in my childhood
>>> As a blind person, I was not able to learn Braille. In many
>>> situations, I ended up having to identify my issues and discuss them
>>> with my parents and teachers.
>>> In my case I was lucky enough to have cooperative and helpful teachers
>>> when I was in elementary school. And I was also lucky enough to have a
>>> little vision during that time. But not everyone is that fortunate
>>> Here, the issue is that children may not be able to rightly
>>> communicate their problems. And in many cases they will be hesitant to
>>> express their problems.
>>> A differently-abled child in a normal school requires special
>>> attention on many fronts. Of course, many such issues can be avoided
>>> by putting a differently-abled child in a special school. For example,
>>> a blind 

Re: [AI] share my openion on mix and match regarding

[SHANKAR DIGUVAPALLI]

On 1/15/16, bala9119  wrote:
> Welll, an interesting topic which kindled me to write.
> after finishing 10th standard in the special school in Tamil Medium,
> I've joined Ramakrishna Mission Main Highersecondary School Chennai.
> at that time, i am not aware of resource teachers and integrated
> schools, just joined with sighted and pursued my 11th and 12th. in the
> beginning I've enrolled myself into 11th standard Tamil Medium, later
> some of my elders heard about JAWS and Computer hence told me to
> change the medium of instruction to English. in Tamil Medium i had
> History with Commerce and Accountancy but in English i have to choose
> either Business Mathematics or Computer Science and I've opted for
> Business Mathematics. that's where i learnt about life. the special
> schools have turned me a strong Metal, but the integrated school only
> made me a Sword. many of my teachers of the special school criticized
> my intention to join in sighted school stating that the people will
> psychologically abuse me, or i will not be in a position to bear the
> negligence. unfortunate to their comments, my sighted friends turned
> this new English learner to become the division topper in 12th
> standard board exam. as a person failed in business maths in 11th
> standard whent on to score school first in the board exam because of
> the sighted friends who spent their Saturdays and sundays in coaching
> me. apart from education, i've experienced equality in students
> livelihood as i've learnt to bunk the classes. this may sound silly
> but in my view every student must experience the thrill of it at least
> once in their life which is rare in special schools. besides all, the
> most important benefit i've gained from the integrated school is my
> "right to sexual orientation." if you can be flexible with the
> sighted, even Mathematics is not your problem.
> cheers.
> On 1/15/16, SHANKAR DIGUVAPALLI  wrote:
>> i studyed in an integrated school in venkatagiri i could mingle with
>> normal students. some of my normal friends learnt braille and wrote
>> notes in braille and helped me. there are problems in learning
>> mathematics i agree. but over all inclusive education gives an
>> opportunity to inclusive society. hope to discuss more on this topic.
>>
>> On 1/13/16, REKHA REVATHY  wrote:
>>> Dear All
>>> Hope all are doing good. Below I am pasteing my article published in
>>> today's Hindu Business Line. Hope all will like it.
>>> Mix and match
>>> Rekha Revathy
>>> On inclusive education for the differently-able
>>> The concept of inclusion is considered important in all fields
>>> nowadays. Inclusive education for differently-abled children is one
>>> such attempt to include children with various kinds of disabilities in
>>> normal schools
>>> The idea is that through inclusive education, differently-abled
>>> children will get an opportunity to mingle with normal children from
>>> an early age. It will help increase their confidence level, improving
>>> their competency, and they will be able to boldly express their talent
>>> before others. This will ultimately lead to bringing the
>>> differently-abled into the mainstream at at early age
>>> That said, there are many challenges in the effective implementation
>>> of this programme. I was a blind learner in a normal school in Kerala.
>>> I was fully unaware of my community in my childhood
>>> As a blind person, I was not able to learn Braille. In many
>>> situations, I ended up having to identify my issues and discuss them
>>> with my parents and teachers.
>>> In my case I was lucky enough to have cooperative and helpful teachers
>>> when I was in elementary school. And I was also lucky enough to have a
>>> little vision during that time. But not everyone is that fortunate
>>> Here, the issue is that children may not be able to rightly
>>> communicate their problems. And in many cases they will be hesitant to
>>> express their problems.
>>> A differently-abled child in a normal school requires special
>>> attention on many fronts. Of course, many such issues can be avoided
>>> by putting a differently-abled child in a special school. For example,
>>> a blind child can learn Braille only in a special school
>>> But that’s not possible for all such children. So there is a need to
>>> find ways to provide for the special needs of differently-abled
>>> children in a normal school itself, otherwise inclusive education
>>> cannot be effective.
>>> The teachers also need to be sensitised as well as trained to handle
>>> mixed classes, which include the differently-abled.
>>> For instance, even though I used to sit in the front row, especially
>>> in mathematics classes, I usually ended up with lots of confusion and
>>> doubt. When I reached the 8th standard, I started recording my classes
>>> and learned by listening to themrepeatedly.
>>> But teachers do not always say all the things 

Re: [AI] Blind can record answers

[Saurabh Gupta]

Hi Guys,

I am wondering and thinking that this problem could be easily with services
which combine Speech to text and text to speech. It would work for English
and some of the languages. And might not be very accurate but never the
less would be able to server the purpose.

I am an Android developer myself and have been working on app where one can
upload the audio file or submit audio file url to get transcribed file back
, translate transcriptions thus received to any language of choice, use
text to speech to re-read this transcriptions. Ans since now it is text to
speech, navigation becomes lot easier as app can control move by word, by
paragraph, by sentences.

If this solution could work I can definitely tailor made to suit the exam
requirements. Looking forward to feedback from everyone on this forum if it
works.


Regards

On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 9:09 AM, P. Subramani 
wrote:

> you are absolutely right on this,  I never meant to  condemn others
> viewpoints,  my viewpoint is why not have choices and let the individual
> have the choice
> E-Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com
> Mob:  9738150192
> Facebook: facebook.com/subu.subramani.16
> - Original Message - From: "George Abraham" 
> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled.'" 
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 12:34 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [AI] Blind can record answers
>
>
> There are different views on any subject. All may not agree with what is
>> written on the list. They are free to express their views. Even the well
>> settled persons also have thoughts that they are welcome to share. Such
>> discussions give us perspectives.
>>
>> What one takes away from a discussion depends on how one looks at life.
>> All the so called well placed people in this country have also struggled
>> and faced up to challenges. What largely singles them out is their attitude
>> and approach and willingness to adapt and innovate. Let us not condemn or
>> look down on them.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf Of P. Subramani
>> Sent: 14 January 2016 12:12
>> To: vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing
>> accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Blind can record answers
>>
>> I don't understand the big fuss created on this topic, obviously
>> computer-users will not resort to recording answers, most will definitely
>> use scribes and only a few individuals as a last  option may opt for
>> recording,  it should be individual's choice having varous options are by
>> no
>> means a bad thing
>> E-Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com
>> Mob:  9738150192
>> Facebook: facebook.com/subu.subramani.16
>> - Original Message - From: "Vedprakash" <
>> vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com>
>> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerningthe disabled.'" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 7:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Blind can record answers
>>
>>
>> Tape-recording answers is dangerous.
>>> Firstly, the pronunciation part.
>>> I can furnish numerous examples in Hindi, where different people
>>> pronounce
>>> the same word differently due to regional considerations.
>>> Secondly, when we record an answer, little time is left for the process
>>> of
>>> thinking. Either you pause the recording frequently, or you have to speak
>>> flawlessly and continuously.
>>> During the recording, a shrill horn from a nearby vehicle may disturb the
>>> recording and the checker may not get the recording correctly.
>>> Many more such disturbances may occur resulting in a bad recording.
>>> Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf Of Kakarla Nageswaraiah
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 6:30 PM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled. 
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Blind can record answers
>>>
>>> What if the tape-recorder malfunctions?  In 2002, my typewriter didn't
>>> work when I went to DU to appear for the exams for the post of typist.
>>> Multiple options may be given to the blind for writing exams.  At the
>>> same
>>> time, teachers should prepare the students to the extent of securing good
>>> marks on their own without expecting the scribes to compensate for the
>>> poor preparation and/or negligence of the students.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/12/16, Vidhya Y  wrote:
>>>
 what about math? tell it like a Poem?
 typing would be fair instead of recording.
 the Sighted write so we should type!
 that way teachers can deduct marks for spelling mistakes and so on in
 case of English Language.
 for this, students should be 

Re: [AI] share my openion on mix and match regarding

[bala9119]

What we need to those who haven't got the opportunity to be educated
in the integrated school is a course or training on "behavior
modification." this is a looming problem among us. when we integrate
with the sighted world, we can easily avail this. otherwise, we need
to have a course or training on that. that can only help to avoid
prejudice.

On 1/15/16, SHANKAR DIGUVAPALLI  wrote:
> On 1/15/16, bala9119  wrote:
>> Welll, an interesting topic which kindled me to write.
>> after finishing 10th standard in the special school in Tamil Medium,
>> I've joined Ramakrishna Mission Main Highersecondary School Chennai.
>> at that time, i am not aware of resource teachers and integrated
>> schools, just joined with sighted and pursued my 11th and 12th. in the
>> beginning I've enrolled myself into 11th standard Tamil Medium, later
>> some of my elders heard about JAWS and Computer hence told me to
>> change the medium of instruction to English. in Tamil Medium i had
>> History with Commerce and Accountancy but in English i have to choose
>> either Business Mathematics or Computer Science and I've opted for
>> Business Mathematics. that's where i learnt about life. the special
>> schools have turned me a strong Metal, but the integrated school only
>> made me a Sword. many of my teachers of the special school criticized
>> my intention to join in sighted school stating that the people will
>> psychologically abuse me, or i will not be in a position to bear the
>> negligence. unfortunate to their comments, my sighted friends turned
>> this new English learner to become the division topper in 12th
>> standard board exam. as a person failed in business maths in 11th
>> standard whent on to score school first in the board exam because of
>> the sighted friends who spent their Saturdays and sundays in coaching
>> me. apart from education, i've experienced equality in students
>> livelihood as i've learnt to bunk the classes. this may sound silly
>> but in my view every student must experience the thrill of it at least
>> once in their life which is rare in special schools. besides all, the
>> most important benefit i've gained from the integrated school is my
>> "right to sexual orientation." if you can be flexible with the
>> sighted, even Mathematics is not your problem.
>> cheers.
>> On 1/15/16, SHANKAR DIGUVAPALLI  wrote:
>>> i studyed in an integrated school in venkatagiri i could mingle with
>>> normal students. some of my normal friends learnt braille and wrote
>>> notes in braille and helped me. there are problems in learning
>>> mathematics i agree. but over all inclusive education gives an
>>> opportunity to inclusive society. hope to discuss more on this topic.
>>>
>>> On 1/13/16, REKHA REVATHY  wrote:
 Dear All
 Hope all are doing good. Below I am pasteing my article published in
 today's Hindu Business Line. Hope all will like it.
 Mix and match
 Rekha Revathy
 On inclusive education for the differently-able
 The concept of inclusion is considered important in all fields
 nowadays. Inclusive education for differently-abled children is one
 such attempt to include children with various kinds of disabilities in
 normal schools
 The idea is that through inclusive education, differently-abled
 children will get an opportunity to mingle with normal children from
 an early age. It will help increase their confidence level, improving
 their competency, and they will be able to boldly express their talent
 before others. This will ultimately lead to bringing the
 differently-abled into the mainstream at at early age
 That said, there are many challenges in the effective implementation
 of this programme. I was a blind learner in a normal school in Kerala.
 I was fully unaware of my community in my childhood
 As a blind person, I was not able to learn Braille. In many
 situations, I ended up having to identify my issues and discuss them
 with my parents and teachers.
 In my case I was lucky enough to have cooperative and helpful teachers
 when I was in elementary school. And I was also lucky enough to have a
 little vision during that time. But not everyone is that fortunate
 Here, the issue is that children may not be able to rightly
 communicate their problems. And in many cases they will be hesitant to
 express their problems.
 A differently-abled child in a normal school requires special
 attention on many fronts. Of course, many such issues can be avoided
 by putting a differently-abled child in a special school. For example,
 a blind child can learn Braille only in a special school
 But that’s not possible for all such children. So there is a need to
 find ways to provide for the special needs of differently-abled
 children in a normal school itself, otherwise