Re: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up
All, Some one provided 8121281212 as universal number for railway complaint. But as per my knowledge, It is for SCR only. Once I made a complaint on this number and I got a feedback that your complaint does not pertain in the jurisdiction of SCR and has been forwarded to central railway mumbai. -Original Message- From: Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:48 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up How can we find the complaint numbers of all railway zones? Is there any universal number? -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shona Man Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 6:06 PM To: surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up Hi friends before cupple of weeks I was traveling from my place to Delhi with my cousin. My waiting list ticket couldn't be confirmed in AC chair car therefore we decided to board handicapped coach. But when we reached at the end of the train we saw that handicapped coach was full of nondisabled as usual. We tried to seek help from guard in adjacent compartment, he was very busy in his personal business while talking on telephone, after our repeated demand he turned to us and asked the problem, we asked him to vacate the handicapped coach, but he outrightly refused and showed his inability to do so. Then I asked a RPF personal standing nearby, but he also refused to do any thing unless guard gives him note of doing so. I asked the guard that I am going to complain regarding it and your inability. At the same time I did complained with the train number and station where it was standing to number 9717630982. I dont know what happened with in 5 minute, guard called RPF personal and said to him that I am giving note to u and vacate the coach. Then that RPF jawan with in 5 minute vacated the coach using force, surprisingly there was only 1 PH sitting in the coach. Friends now what happened at the next station that guard came to us and asked me my certificate and ticket, I gave him and he took it to his compartment. He did not returned it untill we reached Delhi, when I approached him to take my certificate then he very strongly said to me that it is not our duty to vacate the coach and in future never complain. I said to him that I know it is under your jurisdiction, if it is not why you are caring of the complaint? I said, let me follow my own process if it is not ur duty then why u r worried? I left him with this hot discussion and warned him that I am very well aware of my rights. This complaint number is of Delhi, may be in other circle other number working. On 12/11/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote: In this conection I want to share something: 10111/10112 konkan kanya express does not have handicap compartment, but the same train becomes 10103/10104 mandvi express morning train, it has handicap compartment, why? Secondly: sometime it comes on back, sometime in front, why? Thirdly security questions are as it is, nothing is changed. So railway person please: pay attention... Thank you good luck! Surendra Salgaonkar Phones. :+919867645933, +912226473918 Emails: surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com Skype: salgaonkarconcerns, salgaonkarskype -Original message- From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula Sent: 10.12.2012, 4.50 pm To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up Dear all, I remember, there was a huge discussion on this earlier. Wondering, if any of you know updated information. Additionally, wanted to share an incident I have noticed recently. Howrah - Chennai Superfast mail has two such coaches one at the front and another towards the end of train. When a couple of passengers with disabilites went to front side coach, it was crowded with all non-disabled users and couple of policemen standing there told that it's not their responsibility to get them vacated and the second coach which is just before the guards coach gets such support and those two folks had to walk all the way to end of the train. Yes, the guard was supervising the coach and was not allowing any passenger who does not have a disability. I was shocked, when there are two coaches, why they do not offer necessary support. Since that was a station where train halts almost 20 minutes, those folks were able to walk all over the train, but what could have happened if train halts only for a minute or two or if they are mobility impaired? Do you all think, taking up this issue with CCPD office would help? Best, -Srini -- Regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/VasuTweets Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://www.learnaccessibility.org Let's create an inclusive web! Register at
Re: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up
hello, just last week, one of my friend was travelling from mumbai to nagpur. while she was in her handicapped coach in which she was all most alone initially but after some station, few people boarded in that compartment. since she was visually challenged person, she had warned the arriving passendgers about this coach and not to travael if they are not handicapped. on this warning, some people replied that they are handicapped as they have got some injuries in their legs but do not have any certificate. she could not argue with them much since she was alone and thought to make her journey with no hassels. everything was fine till few stations but suddently on one station, one stranger came to sit next to her seat. from his talking and the smell, she could make out that he is drunker. so after sometime, he started conversing with her and began to react to touch her. seeing this, she had changed her seat but that didn't worked well for her as he followed her. here she could not take any other passenger's help since distance to next station was very far from there. she imediately sms me her coach number, problem description in short. reacting to her problem imediately, i had sent the sms to the number 9717630182 and also used my personal contacts with some rail officials and requested them to take the action quickly failing which i had also informed that i should be forced to take this issue with press and police. to my surprise, before reaching the train at the next station,i and my friend received the call from some ticket collectors of that train who were in other compartment and informed me and her not to worry and asured their full cooperation. don't know how before the train reached to next station, how we have received couple of calls from railway may be certainly because of complaints which they had also mentioned in their call but from the ticket collector this information had been reached so quickly which was not at all expected. on the next station, some railway official took that person in their custody and took him somewhere which we are not aware and my friend had been given other alternate accomodation in the sleeper class with reserved seat. so really hats off to the complaint system of railway due to which she could make safe journey! but this is how sometime it becomes risky in travelling handicapped coach which is not connected from inside with other compartments if it would be so, she could easily approach other passengers imediately. this was our experience. thanks, mukesh. On 12/13/12, Rohiet A. Patil patil_ro...@dataone.in wrote: All, Some one provided 8121281212 as universal number for railway complaint. But as per my knowledge, It is for SCR only. Once I made a complaint on this number and I got a feedback that your complaint does not pertain in the jurisdiction of SCR and has been forwarded to central railway mumbai. -Original Message- From: Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:48 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up How can we find the complaint numbers of all railway zones? Is there any universal number? -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shona Man Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 6:06 PM To: surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up Hi friends before cupple of weeks I was traveling from my place to Delhi with my cousin. My waiting list ticket couldn't be confirmed in AC chair car therefore we decided to board handicapped coach. But when we reached at the end of the train we saw that handicapped coach was full of nondisabled as usual. We tried to seek help from guard in adjacent compartment, he was very busy in his personal business while talking on telephone, after our repeated demand he turned to us and asked the problem, we asked him to vacate the handicapped coach, but he outrightly refused and showed his inability to do so. Then I asked a RPF personal standing nearby, but he also refused to do any thing unless guard gives him note of doing so. I asked the guard that I am going to complain regarding it and your inability. At the same time I did complained with the train number and station where it was standing to number 9717630982. I dont know what happened with in 5 minute, guard called RPF personal and said to him that I am giving note to u and vacate the coach. Then that RPF jawan with in 5 minute vacated the coach using force, surprisingly there was only 1 PH sitting in the coach. Friends now what happened at the next station that guard came to us and asked me my certificate and ticket, I gave him and he took it to his compartment. He did not returned it untill we reached Delhi, when I approached him to take my certificate then he very strongly
Re: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways -a follow-up
yes the universal complaint No. is 8121281212. - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways -a follow-up How can we find the complaint numbers of all railway zones? Is there any universal number? -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shona Man Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 6:06 PM To: surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up Hi friends before cupple of weeks I was traveling from my place to Delhi with my cousin. My waiting list ticket couldn't be confirmed in AC chair car therefore we decided to board handicapped coach. But when we reached at the end of the train we saw that handicapped coach was full of nondisabled as usual. We tried to seek help from guard in adjacent compartment, he was very busy in his personal business while talking on telephone, after our repeated demand he turned to us and asked the problem, we asked him to vacate the handicapped coach, but he outrightly refused and showed his inability to do so. Then I asked a RPF personal standing nearby, but he also refused to do any thing unless guard gives him note of doing so. I asked the guard that I am going to complain regarding it and your inability. At the same time I did complained with the train number and station where it was standing to number 9717630982. I dont know what happened with in 5 minute, guard called RPF personal and said to him that I am giving note to u and vacate the coach. Then that RPF jawan with in 5 minute vacated the coach using force, surprisingly there was only 1 PH sitting in the coach. Friends now what happened at the next station that guard came to us and asked me my certificate and ticket, I gave him and he took it to his compartment. He did not returned it untill we reached Delhi, when I approached him to take my certificate then he very strongly said to me that it is not our duty to vacate the coach and in future never complain. I said to him that I know it is under your jurisdiction, if it is not why you are caring of the complaint? I said, let me follow my own process if it is not ur duty then why u r worried? I left him with this hot discussion and warned him that I am very well aware of my rights. This complaint number is of Delhi, may be in other circle other number working. On 12/11/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote: In this conection I want to share something: 10111/10112 konkan kanya express does not have handicap compartment, but the same train becomes 10103/10104 mandvi express morning train, it has handicap compartment, why? Secondly: sometime it comes on back, sometime in front, why? Thirdly security questions are as it is, nothing is changed. So railway person please: pay attention... Thank you good luck! Surendra Salgaonkar Phones. :+919867645933, +912226473918 Emails: surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com Skype: salgaonkarconcerns, salgaonkarskype -Original message- From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula Sent: 10.12.2012, 4.50 pm To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up Dear all, I remember, there was a huge discussion on this earlier. Wondering, if any of you know updated information. Additionally, wanted to share an incident I have noticed recently. Howrah - Chennai Superfast mail has two such coaches one at the front and another towards the end of train. When a couple of passengers with disabilites went to front side coach, it was crowded with all non-disabled users and couple of policemen standing there told that it's not their responsibility to get them vacated and the second coach which is just before the guards coach gets such support and those two folks had to walk all the way to end of the train. Yes, the guard was supervising the coach and was not allowing any passenger who does not have a disability. I was shocked, when there are two coaches, why they do not offer necessary support. Since that was a station where train halts almost 20 minutes, those folks were able to walk all over the train, but what could have happened if train halts only for a minute or two or if they are mobility impaired? Do you all think, taking up this issue with CCPD office would help? Best, -Srini -- Regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/VasuTweets Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://www.learnaccessibility.org Let's create an inclusive web! Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at:
Re: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up
Hi friends before cupple of weeks I was traveling from my place to Delhi with my cousin. My waiting list ticket couldn't be confirmed in AC chair car therefore we decided to board handicapped coach. But when we reached at the end of the train we saw that handicapped coach was full of nondisabled as usual. We tried to seek help from guard in adjacent compartment, he was very busy in his personal business while talking on telephone, after our repeated demand he turned to us and asked the problem, we asked him to vacate the handicapped coach, but he outrightly refused and showed his inability to do so. Then I asked a RPF personal standing nearby, but he also refused to do any thing unless guard gives him note of doing so. I asked the guard that I am going to complain regarding it and your inability. At the same time I did complained with the train number and station where it was standing to number 9717630982. I dont know what happened with in 5 minute, guard called RPF personal and said to him that I am giving note to u and vacate the coach. Then that RPF jawan with in 5 minute vacated the coach using force, surprisingly there was only 1 PH sitting in the coach. Friends now what happened at the next station that guard came to us and asked me my certificate and ticket, I gave him and he took it to his compartment. He did not returned it untill we reached Delhi, when I approached him to take my certificate then he very strongly said to me that it is not our duty to vacate the coach and in future never complain. I said to him that I know it is under your jurisdiction, if it is not why you are caring of the complaint? I said, let me follow my own process if it is not ur duty then why u r worried? I left him with this hot discussion and warned him that I am very well aware of my rights. This complaint number is of Delhi, may be in other circle other number working. On 12/11/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote: In this conection I want to share something: 10111/10112 konkan kanya express does not have handicap compartment, but the same train becomes 10103/10104 mandvi express morning train, it has handicap compartment, why? Secondly: sometime it comes on back, sometime in front, why? Thirdly security questions are as it is, nothing is changed. So railway person please: pay attention... Thank you good luck! Surendra Salgaonkar Phones. :+919867645933, +912226473918 Emails: surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com Skype: salgaonkarconcerns, salgaonkarskype -Original message- From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula Sent: 10.12.2012, 4.50 pm To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up Dear all, I remember, there was a huge discussion on this earlier. Wondering, if any of you know updated information. Additionally, wanted to share an incident I have noticed recently. Howrah - Chennai Superfast mail has two such coaches one at the front and another towards the end of train. When a couple of passengers with disabilites went to front side coach, it was crowded with all non-disabled users and couple of policemen standing there told that it's not their responsibility to get them vacated and the second coach which is just before the guards coach gets such support and those two folks had to walk all the way to end of the train. Yes, the guard was supervising the coach and was not allowing any passenger who does not have a disability. I was shocked, when there are two coaches, why they do not offer necessary support. Since that was a station where train halts almost 20 minutes, those folks were able to walk all over the train, but what could have happened if train halts only for a minute or two or if they are mobility impaired? Do you all think, taking up this issue with CCPD office would help? Best, -Srini -- Regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/VasuTweets Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://www.learnaccessibility.org Let's create an inclusive web! Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message
Re: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up
How can we find the complaint numbers of all railway zones? Is there any universal number? -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shona Man Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 6:06 PM To: surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up Hi friends before cupple of weeks I was traveling from my place to Delhi with my cousin. My waiting list ticket couldn't be confirmed in AC chair car therefore we decided to board handicapped coach. But when we reached at the end of the train we saw that handicapped coach was full of nondisabled as usual. We tried to seek help from guard in adjacent compartment, he was very busy in his personal business while talking on telephone, after our repeated demand he turned to us and asked the problem, we asked him to vacate the handicapped coach, but he outrightly refused and showed his inability to do so. Then I asked a RPF personal standing nearby, but he also refused to do any thing unless guard gives him note of doing so. I asked the guard that I am going to complain regarding it and your inability. At the same time I did complained with the train number and station where it was standing to number 9717630982. I dont know what happened with in 5 minute, guard called RPF personal and said to him that I am giving note to u and vacate the coach. Then that RPF jawan with in 5 minute vacated the coach using force, surprisingly there was only 1 PH sitting in the coach. Friends now what happened at the next station that guard came to us and asked me my certificate and ticket, I gave him and he took it to his compartment. He did not returned it untill we reached Delhi, when I approached him to take my certificate then he very strongly said to me that it is not our duty to vacate the coach and in future never complain. I said to him that I know it is under your jurisdiction, if it is not why you are caring of the complaint? I said, let me follow my own process if it is not ur duty then why u r worried? I left him with this hot discussion and warned him that I am very well aware of my rights. This complaint number is of Delhi, may be in other circle other number working. On 12/11/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote: In this conection I want to share something: 10111/10112 konkan kanya express does not have handicap compartment, but the same train becomes 10103/10104 mandvi express morning train, it has handicap compartment, why? Secondly: sometime it comes on back, sometime in front, why? Thirdly security questions are as it is, nothing is changed. So railway person please: pay attention... Thank you good luck! Surendra Salgaonkar Phones. :+919867645933, +912226473918 Emails: surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com Skype: salgaonkarconcerns, salgaonkarskype -Original message- From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula Sent: 10.12.2012, 4.50 pm To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up Dear all, I remember, there was a huge discussion on this earlier. Wondering, if any of you know updated information. Additionally, wanted to share an incident I have noticed recently. Howrah - Chennai Superfast mail has two such coaches one at the front and another towards the end of train. When a couple of passengers with disabilites went to front side coach, it was crowded with all non-disabled users and couple of policemen standing there told that it's not their responsibility to get them vacated and the second coach which is just before the guards coach gets such support and those two folks had to walk all the way to end of the train. Yes, the guard was supervising the coach and was not allowing any passenger who does not have a disability. I was shocked, when there are two coaches, why they do not offer necessary support. Since that was a station where train halts almost 20 minutes, those folks were able to walk all over the train, but what could have happened if train halts only for a minute or two or if they are mobility impaired? Do you all think, taking up this issue with CCPD office would help? Best, -Srini -- Regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/VasuTweets Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://www.learnaccessibility.org Let's create an inclusive web! Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home
Re: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up
further, take note not to approach to the guard or driver, make complaint directly to the authority. your name and mobile number will not be disclosed to the RPF personnel, who will approach to the coach. however, at the time of closing the complaint the rail authority will ask your name and about your satisfaction. On 12/12/12, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: How can we find the complaint numbers of all railway zones? Is there any universal number? -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shona Man Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 6:06 PM To: surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up Hi friends before cupple of weeks I was traveling from my place to Delhi with my cousin. My waiting list ticket couldn't be confirmed in AC chair car therefore we decided to board handicapped coach. But when we reached at the end of the train we saw that handicapped coach was full of nondisabled as usual. We tried to seek help from guard in adjacent compartment, he was very busy in his personal business while talking on telephone, after our repeated demand he turned to us and asked the problem, we asked him to vacate the handicapped coach, but he outrightly refused and showed his inability to do so. Then I asked a RPF personal standing nearby, but he also refused to do any thing unless guard gives him note of doing so. I asked the guard that I am going to complain regarding it and your inability. At the same time I did complained with the train number and station where it was standing to number 9717630982. I dont know what happened with in 5 minute, guard called RPF personal and said to him that I am giving note to u and vacate the coach. Then that RPF jawan with in 5 minute vacated the coach using force, surprisingly there was only 1 PH sitting in the coach. Friends now what happened at the next station that guard came to us and asked me my certificate and ticket, I gave him and he took it to his compartment. He did not returned it untill we reached Delhi, when I approached him to take my certificate then he very strongly said to me that it is not our duty to vacate the coach and in future never complain. I said to him that I know it is under your jurisdiction, if it is not why you are caring of the complaint? I said, let me follow my own process if it is not ur duty then why u r worried? I left him with this hot discussion and warned him that I am very well aware of my rights. This complaint number is of Delhi, may be in other circle other number working. On 12/11/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote: In this conection I want to share something: 10111/10112 konkan kanya express does not have handicap compartment, but the same train becomes 10103/10104 mandvi express morning train, it has handicap compartment, why? Secondly: sometime it comes on back, sometime in front, why? Thirdly security questions are as it is, nothing is changed. So railway person please: pay attention... Thank you good luck! Surendra Salgaonkar Phones. :+919867645933, +912226473918 Emails: surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com Skype: salgaonkarconcerns, salgaonkarskype -Original message- From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula Sent: 10.12.2012, 4.50 pm To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up Dear all, I remember, there was a huge discussion on this earlier. Wondering, if any of you know updated information. Additionally, wanted to share an incident I have noticed recently. Howrah - Chennai Superfast mail has two such coaches one at the front and another towards the end of train. When a couple of passengers with disabilites went to front side coach, it was crowded with all non-disabled users and couple of policemen standing there told that it's not their responsibility to get them vacated and the second coach which is just before the guards coach gets such support and those two folks had to walk all the way to end of the train. Yes, the guard was supervising the coach and was not allowing any passenger who does not have a disability. I was shocked, when there are two coaches, why they do not offer necessary support. Since that was a station where train halts almost 20 minutes, those folks were able to walk all over the train, but what could have happened if train halts only for a minute or two or if they are mobility impaired? Do you all think, taking up this issue with CCPD office would help? Best, -Srini -- Regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/VasuTweets Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://www.learnaccessibility.org Let's create an inclusive web! Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
Re: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up
can anybody supply complain numbers of all rail zones or is there a common number? On 12/12/12, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: further, take note not to approach to the guard or driver, make complaint directly to the authority. your name and mobile number will not be disclosed to the RPF personnel, who will approach to the coach. however, at the time of closing the complaint the rail authority will ask your name and about your satisfaction. On 12/12/12, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: How can we find the complaint numbers of all railway zones? Is there any universal number? -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shona Man Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 6:06 PM To: surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up Hi friends before cupple of weeks I was traveling from my place to Delhi with my cousin. My waiting list ticket couldn't be confirmed in AC chair car therefore we decided to board handicapped coach. But when we reached at the end of the train we saw that handicapped coach was full of nondisabled as usual. We tried to seek help from guard in adjacent compartment, he was very busy in his personal business while talking on telephone, after our repeated demand he turned to us and asked the problem, we asked him to vacate the handicapped coach, but he outrightly refused and showed his inability to do so. Then I asked a RPF personal standing nearby, but he also refused to do any thing unless guard gives him note of doing so. I asked the guard that I am going to complain regarding it and your inability. At the same time I did complained with the train number and station where it was standing to number 9717630982. I dont know what happened with in 5 minute, guard called RPF personal and said to him that I am giving note to u and vacate the coach. Then that RPF jawan with in 5 minute vacated the coach using force, surprisingly there was only 1 PH sitting in the coach. Friends now what happened at the next station that guard came to us and asked me my certificate and ticket, I gave him and he took it to his compartment. He did not returned it untill we reached Delhi, when I approached him to take my certificate then he very strongly said to me that it is not our duty to vacate the coach and in future never complain. I said to him that I know it is under your jurisdiction, if it is not why you are caring of the complaint? I said, let me follow my own process if it is not ur duty then why u r worried? I left him with this hot discussion and warned him that I am very well aware of my rights. This complaint number is of Delhi, may be in other circle other number working. On 12/11/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote: In this conection I want to share something: 10111/10112 konkan kanya express does not have handicap compartment, but the same train becomes 10103/10104 mandvi express morning train, it has handicap compartment, why? Secondly: sometime it comes on back, sometime in front, why? Thirdly security questions are as it is, nothing is changed. So railway person please: pay attention... Thank you good luck! Surendra Salgaonkar Phones. :+919867645933, +912226473918 Emails: surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com Skype: salgaonkarconcerns, salgaonkarskype -Original message- From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula Sent: 10.12.2012, 4.50 pm To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up Dear all, I remember, there was a huge discussion on this earlier. Wondering, if any of you know updated information. Additionally, wanted to share an incident I have noticed recently. Howrah - Chennai Superfast mail has two such coaches one at the front and another towards the end of train. When a couple of passengers with disabilites went to front side coach, it was crowded with all non-disabled users and couple of policemen standing there told that it's not their responsibility to get them vacated and the second coach which is just before the guards coach gets such support and those two folks had to walk all the way to end of the train. Yes, the guard was supervising the coach and was not allowing any passenger who does not have a disability. I was shocked, when there are two coaches, why they do not offer necessary support. Since that was a station where train halts almost 20 minutes, those folks were able to walk all over the train, but what could have happened if train halts only for a minute or two or if they are mobility impaired? Do you all think, taking up this issue with CCPD office would help? Best, -Srini -- Regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/VasuTweets Website:
[AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up
Dear all, I remember, there was a huge discussion on this earlier. Wondering, if any of you know updated information. Additionally, wanted to share an incident I have noticed recently. Howrah - Chennai Superfast mail has two such coaches one at the front and another towards the end of train. When a couple of passengers with disabilites went to front side coach, it was crowded with all non-disabled users and couple of policemen standing there told that it's not their responsibility to get them vacated and the second coach which is just before the guards coach gets such support and those two folks had to walk all the way to end of the train. Yes, the guard was supervising the coach and was not allowing any passenger who does not have a disability. I was shocked, when there are two coaches, why they do not offer necessary support. Since that was a station where train halts almost 20 minutes, those folks were able to walk all over the train, but what could have happened if train halts only for a minute or two or if they are mobility impaired? Do you all think, taking up this issue with CCPD office would help? Best, -Srini -- Regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/VasuTweets Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://www.learnaccessibility.org Let's create an inclusive web! Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up
One disabled coach for disabled, and another for non-disabled! Smile. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srinivasu Chakravarthula Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 4:51 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up Dear all, I remember, there was a huge discussion on this earlier. Wondering, if any of you know updated information. Additionally, wanted to share an incident I have noticed recently. Howrah - Chennai Superfast mail has two such coaches one at the front and another towards the end of train. When a couple of passengers with disabilites went to front side coach, it was crowded with all non-disabled users and couple of policemen standing there told that it's not their responsibility to get them vacated and the second coach which is just before the guards coach gets such support and those two folks had to walk all the way to end of the train. Yes, the guard was supervising the coach and was not allowing any passenger who does not have a disability. I was shocked, when there are two coaches, why they do not offer necessary support. Since that was a station where train halts almost 20 minutes, those folks were able to walk all over the train, but what could have happened if train halts only for a minute or two or if they are mobility impaired? Do you all think, taking up this issue with CCPD office would help? Best, -Srini -- Regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/VasuTweets Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://www.learnaccessibility.org Let's create an inclusive web! Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Caution: The Reserve Bank of India never sends mails, smses or makes calls asking for personal information like your bank account details, passwords, etc. It never keeps or offers funds to anyone. Please do not respond in any manner to such offers, however official or attractive they may look. Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up
I think, the complaint numbers of railway, which we halve already discussed, would be helpful. With regards, Jaison Bellarmine-Original message- From: Asudani, Rajesh Sent: 10/12/2012, 5:39 pm To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up One disabled coach for disabled, and another for non-disabled! Smile. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srinivasu Chakravarthula Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 4:51 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up Dear all, I remember, there was a huge discussion on this earlier. Wondering, if any of you know updated information. Additionally, wanted to share an incident I have noticed recently. Howrah - Chennai Superfast mail has two such coaches one at the front and another towards the end of train. When a couple of passengers with disabilites went to front side coach, it was crowded with all non-disabled users and couple of policemen standing there told that it's not their responsibility to get them vacated and the second coach which is just before the guards coach gets such support and those two folks had to walk all the way to end of the train. Yes, the guard was supervising the coach and was not allowing any passenger who does not have a disability. I was shocked, when there are two coaches, why they do not offer necessary support. Since that was a station where train halts almost 20 minutes, those folks were able to walk all over the train, but what could have happened if train halts only for a minute or two or if they are mobility impaired? Do you all think, taking up this issue with CCPD office would help? Best, -Srini -- Regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/VasuTweets Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://www.learnaccessibility.org Let's create an inclusive web! Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Caution: The Reserve Bank of India never sends mails, smses or makes calls asking for personal information like your bank account details, passwords, etc. It never keeps or offers funds to anyone. Please do not respond in any manner to such offers, however official or attractive they may look. Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up
srinivasu, I also think that the issue must be brought before CCPD. he may give a comprehensive guidelines. Umesha - Original Message - From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula li...@srinivasu.org To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, 10 December, 2012 4:50 PM Subject: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up Dear all, I remember, there was a huge discussion on this earlier. Wondering, if any of you know updated information. Additionally, wanted to share an incident I have noticed recently. Howrah - Chennai Superfast mail has two such coaches one at the front and another towards the end of train. When a couple of passengers with disabilites went to front side coach, it was crowded with all non-disabled users and couple of policemen standing there told that it's not their responsibility to get them vacated and the second coach which is just before the guards coach gets such support and those two folks had to walk all the way to end of the train. Yes, the guard was supervising the coach and was not allowing any passenger who does not have a disability. I was shocked, when there are two coaches, why they do not offer necessary support. Since that was a station where train halts almost 20 minutes, those folks were able to walk all over the train, but what could have happened if train halts only for a minute or two or if they are mobility impaired? Do you all think, taking up this issue with CCPD office would help? Best, -Srini -- Regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/VasuTweets Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://www.learnaccessibility.org Let's create an inclusive web! Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up
In this conection I want to share something: 10111/10112 konkan kanya express does not have handicap compartment, but the same train becomes 10103/10104 mandvi express morning train, it has handicap compartment, why? Secondly: sometime it comes on back, sometime in front, why? Thirdly security questions are as it is, nothing is changed. So railway person please: pay attention... Thank you good luck! Surendra Salgaonkar Phones. :+919867645933, +912226473918 Emails: surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com Skype: salgaonkarconcerns, salgaonkarskype -Original message- From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula Sent: 10.12.2012, 4.50 pm To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a follow-up Dear all, I remember, there was a huge discussion on this earlier. Wondering, if any of you know updated information. Additionally, wanted to share an incident I have noticed recently. Howrah - Chennai Superfast mail has two such coaches one at the front and another towards the end of train. When a couple of passengers with disabilites went to front side coach, it was crowded with all non-disabled users and couple of policemen standing there told that it's not their responsibility to get them vacated and the second coach which is just before the guards coach gets such support and those two folks had to walk all the way to end of the train. Yes, the guard was supervising the coach and was not allowing any passenger who does not have a disability. I was shocked, when there are two coaches, why they do not offer necessary support. Since that was a station where train halts almost 20 minutes, those folks were able to walk all over the train, but what could have happened if train halts only for a minute or two or if they are mobility impaired? Do you all think, taking up this issue with CCPD office would help? Best, -Srini -- Regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/VasuTweets Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://www.learnaccessibility.org Let's create an inclusive web! Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
