Re: [AI] guide dogs in India
Well, I also think it is not worth it to spend so much on a guide dog in the first place. To me, they sound luxury. We can hire an assistant/escort for a rate much cheaper than that... -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Adina Galani Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 10:15 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] guide dogs in India It is like that, not knowing about England, but in Austria, first, one does not have street dogs, and I mean it, not a single one! Busses and underground/trams/trains are assured with low step to climb, so a guide dog can manage easily. On top, communication with a dog, especially with a guide one on the road, can turn into a big issue if anything happens and the dog was distracted by someone else, which means, it is forbidden for children and/or grown ups to communicate with a guide dog on the road, unless emergency situations. Not to mention, the hygeen level a dog requiers, especially if living indoors is very very costly, by all means and I am sure this increases still when it comes to a country with a summer climate like India. Adina - Original Message - From: Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [AI] guide dogs in India Which of these problems are not faced by people using guide dogs in, say, England? On 03/09/2011, mahendra gal...@chello.at wrote: i think it is not that simple, first, one must creat right condition. second, blind people useing public transport with guide dog, will be very difficult, as it is not accesible. and dog will have to compete with so many travelers. further when dog is working, people may try and comunacate with dog. wiche may bother its work. , how it At 12:02 PM 9/3/2011, you wrote: Tell me something. Do visually impaired people in India lead as good a life as visually impaired people do in the US? They don't, right? So, in the same way, guide dogs might not work as effectively in India as they do in the US, but I don't think that is a good enough reason for not getting a guide dog. On 03/09/2011, Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com wrote: Friends: I had a guide dog for many years in the US. I can tell you that it would be next to impossible to utilize the services of a dog effectively in India for many, many reasons. Training a guide dog is not the same thing as training a police dog and the police dog trainer is correct to refuse to train her dogs as guides for blind people. Jean Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in with warm regards Mahendra Galani window's live ID mahendragal...@hotmail.com skype ID chintu3886 phone +4314943149 mobile +4369910366055, address Herbst strasse 101.16.1 Vienna Austria Europe - Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom
Re: [AI] guide dogs in India
Hello, Can you please explain, few of the reasons why you quoted these lines? I can tell you that it would be next to impossible to utilize the services of a dog effectively in India for many, many reasons. . Wanted to know just for knowledge sake. Thank you, Swati Sharma - Original Message - From: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 10:49 AM Subject: [AI] guide dogs in India Friends: I had a guide dog for many years in the US. I can tell you that it would be next to impossible to utilize the services of a dog effectively in India for many, many reasons. Training a guide dog is not the same thing as training a police dog and the police dog trainer is correct to refuse to train her dogs as guides for blind people. Jean Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4628 (20091122) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4628 (20091122) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] guide dogs in India
Hello All, Just to add up, dogs recognize blind people very fast,there is somestray dog which walks some distance with me and leaves when crossed certain territory. RGDS, Pankaj -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 4:45 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] guide dogs in India Certain misconceptions need to be cleared here: Anyone talking about clean streets, you only have to visit New York to see how rats room around streets, subway trains etc and it does not prevent blind people here from using dogs. True people do have to face situations like other people trying to pet the working dogs etc and it does creat problems for a guide dog here. Nowhere are the visually challenged people well off. I can say that it certainly includes the United States. So to emphasize my point again, none of these should be excuses to avoid taking-up this issue in India. Vetri. On 03/09/2011, anand Sharma sharmaanandan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have seen vi using guide dog in England and one can use guide dog without much difficulty at least in London for sure as I have travelled all parts of London through all means of transportation anand - Original Message - From: Adina Galani lotusflowe...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [AI] guide dogs in India It is like that, not knowing about England, but in Austria, first, one does not have street dogs, and I mean it, not a single one! Busses and underground/trams/trains are assured with low step to climb, so a guide dog can manage easily. On top, communication with a dog, especially with a guide one on the road, can turn into a big issue if anything happens and the dog was distracted by someone else, which means, it is forbidden for children and/or grown ups to communicate with a guide dog on the road, unless emergency situations. Not to mention, the hygeen level a dog requiers, especially if living indoors is very very costly, by all means and I am sure this increases still when it comes to a country with a summer climate like India. Adina - Original Message - From: Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [AI] guide dogs in India Which of these problems are not faced by people using guide dogs in, say, England? On 03/09/2011, mahendra gal...@chello.at wrote: i think it is not that simple, first, one must creat right condition. second, blind people useing public transport with guide dog, will be very difficult, as it is not accesible. and dog will have to compete with so many travelers. further when dog is working, people may try and comunacate with dog. wiche may bother its work. , how it At 12:02 PM 9/3/2011, you wrote: Tell me something. Do visually impaired people in India lead as good a life as visually impaired people do in the US? They don't, right? So, in the same way, guide dogs might not work as effectively in India as they do in the US, but I don't think that is a good enough reason for not getting a guide dog. On 03/09/2011, Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com wrote: Friends: I had a guide dog for many years in the US. I can tell you that it would be next to impossible to utilize the services of a dog effectively in India for many, many reasons. Training a guide dog is not the same thing as training a police dog and the police dog trainer is correct to refuse to train her dogs as guides for blind people. Jean Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia. org.in with warm regards Mahendra Galani window's live ID mahendragal...@hotmail.com skype ID chintu3886 phone +4314943149 mobile +4369910366055, address Herbst strasse 101.16.1 Vienna Austria Europe - Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe
Re: [AI] guide dogs in India
Tell me something. Do visually impaired people in India lead as good a life as visually impaired people do in the US? They don't, right? So, in the same way, guide dogs might not work as effectively in India as they do in the US, but I don't think that is a good enough reason for not getting a guide dog. On 03/09/2011, Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com wrote: Friends: I had a guide dog for many years in the US. I can tell you that it would be next to impossible to utilize the services of a dog effectively in India for many, many reasons. Training a guide dog is not the same thing as training a police dog and the police dog trainer is correct to refuse to train her dogs as guides for blind people. Jean Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] guide dogs in India
i think it is not that simple, first, one must creat right condition. second, blind people useing public transport with guide dog, will be very difficult, as it is not accesible. and dog will have to compete with so many travelers. further when dog is working, people may try and comunacate with dog. wiche may bother its work. , how it At 12:02 PM 9/3/2011, you wrote: Tell me something. Do visually impaired people in India lead as good a life as visually impaired people do in the US? They don't, right? So, in the same way, guide dogs might not work as effectively in India as they do in the US, but I don't think that is a good enough reason for not getting a guide dog. On 03/09/2011, Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com wrote: Friends: I had a guide dog for many years in the US. I can tell you that it would be next to impossible to utilize the services of a dog effectively in India for many, many reasons. Training a guide dog is not the same thing as training a police dog and the police dog trainer is correct to refuse to train her dogs as guides for blind people. Jean Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in with warm regards Mahendra Galani window's live ID mahendragal...@hotmail.com skype ID chintu3886 phone +4314943149 mobile +4369910366055, address Herbst strasse 101.16.1 Vienna Austria Europe - Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] guide dogs in India
Which of these problems are not faced by people using guide dogs in, say, England? On 03/09/2011, mahendra gal...@chello.at wrote: i think it is not that simple, first, one must creat right condition. second, blind people useing public transport with guide dog, will be very difficult, as it is not accesible. and dog will have to compete with so many travelers. further when dog is working, people may try and comunacate with dog. wiche may bother its work. , how it At 12:02 PM 9/3/2011, you wrote: Tell me something. Do visually impaired people in India lead as good a life as visually impaired people do in the US? They don't, right? So, in the same way, guide dogs might not work as effectively in India as they do in the US, but I don't think that is a good enough reason for not getting a guide dog. On 03/09/2011, Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com wrote: Friends: I had a guide dog for many years in the US. I can tell you that it would be next to impossible to utilize the services of a dog effectively in India for many, many reasons. Training a guide dog is not the same thing as training a police dog and the police dog trainer is correct to refuse to train her dogs as guides for blind people. Jean Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in with warm regards Mahendra Galani window's live ID mahendragal...@hotmail.com skype ID chintu3886 phone +4314943149 mobile +4369910366055, address Herbst strasse 101.16.1 Vienna Austria Europe - Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] guide dogs in India
Hi, I think Due to lack of space, neat and clean infrastructure and civilized people it is not possible to make use of guide dogs in India. Creating right condition or environment does not rest in one individual. When your neighbour deliberately park their vehicle very near the staircase of building then you can imagine the scenario outside. Regards, Anand Sharma - Original Message - From: mahendra gal...@chello.at To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [AI] guide dogs in India i think it is not that simple, first, one must creat right condition. second, blind people useing public transport with guide dog, will be very difficult, as it is not accesible. and dog will have to compete with so many travelers. further when dog is working, people may try and comunacate with dog. wiche may bother its work. , how it At 12:02 PM 9/3/2011, you wrote: Tell me something. Do visually impaired people in India lead as good a life as visually impaired people do in the US? They don't, right? So, in the same way, guide dogs might not work as effectively in India as they do in the US, but I don't think that is a good enough reason for not getting a guide dog. On 03/09/2011, Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com wrote: Friends: I had a guide dog for many years in the US. I can tell you that it would be next to impossible to utilize the services of a dog effectively in India for many, many reasons. Training a guide dog is not the same thing as training a police dog and the police dog trainer is correct to refuse to train her dogs as guides for blind people. Jean Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in with warm regards Mahendra Galani window's live ID mahendragal...@hotmail.com skype ID chintu3886 phone +4314943149 mobile +4369910366055, address Herbst strasse 101.16.1 Vienna Austria Europe - Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] guide dogs in India
It is like that, not knowing about England, but in Austria, first, one does not have street dogs, and I mean it, not a single one! Busses and underground/trams/trains are assured with low step to climb, so a guide dog can manage easily. On top, communication with a dog, especially with a guide one on the road, can turn into a big issue if anything happens and the dog was distracted by someone else, which means, it is forbidden for children and/or grown ups to communicate with a guide dog on the road, unless emergency situations. Not to mention, the hygeen level a dog requiers, especially if living indoors is very very costly, by all means and I am sure this increases still when it comes to a country with a summer climate like India. Adina - Original Message - From: Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [AI] guide dogs in India Which of these problems are not faced by people using guide dogs in, say, England? On 03/09/2011, mahendra gal...@chello.at wrote: i think it is not that simple, first, one must creat right condition. second, blind people useing public transport with guide dog, will be very difficult, as it is not accesible. and dog will have to compete with so many travelers. further when dog is working, people may try and comunacate with dog. wiche may bother its work. , how it At 12:02 PM 9/3/2011, you wrote: Tell me something. Do visually impaired people in India lead as good a life as visually impaired people do in the US? They don't, right? So, in the same way, guide dogs might not work as effectively in India as they do in the US, but I don't think that is a good enough reason for not getting a guide dog. On 03/09/2011, Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com wrote: Friends: I had a guide dog for many years in the US. I can tell you that it would be next to impossible to utilize the services of a dog effectively in India for many, many reasons. Training a guide dog is not the same thing as training a police dog and the police dog trainer is correct to refuse to train her dogs as guides for blind people. Jean Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in with warm regards Mahendra Galani window's live ID mahendragal...@hotmail.com skype ID chintu3886 phone +4314943149 mobile +4369910366055, address Herbst strasse 101.16.1 Vienna Austria Europe - Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] guide dogs in India
Hi, I have seen vi using guide dog in England and one can use guide dog without much difficulty at least in London for sure as I have travelled all parts of London through all means of transportation anand - Original Message - From: Adina Galani lotusflowe...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [AI] guide dogs in India It is like that, not knowing about England, but in Austria, first, one does not have street dogs, and I mean it, not a single one! Busses and underground/trams/trains are assured with low step to climb, so a guide dog can manage easily. On top, communication with a dog, especially with a guide one on the road, can turn into a big issue if anything happens and the dog was distracted by someone else, which means, it is forbidden for children and/or grown ups to communicate with a guide dog on the road, unless emergency situations. Not to mention, the hygeen level a dog requiers, especially if living indoors is very very costly, by all means and I am sure this increases still when it comes to a country with a summer climate like India. Adina - Original Message - From: Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [AI] guide dogs in India Which of these problems are not faced by people using guide dogs in, say, England? On 03/09/2011, mahendra gal...@chello.at wrote: i think it is not that simple, first, one must creat right condition. second, blind people useing public transport with guide dog, will be very difficult, as it is not accesible. and dog will have to compete with so many travelers. further when dog is working, people may try and comunacate with dog. wiche may bother its work. , how it At 12:02 PM 9/3/2011, you wrote: Tell me something. Do visually impaired people in India lead as good a life as visually impaired people do in the US? They don't, right? So, in the same way, guide dogs might not work as effectively in India as they do in the US, but I don't think that is a good enough reason for not getting a guide dog. On 03/09/2011, Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com wrote: Friends: I had a guide dog for many years in the US. I can tell you that it would be next to impossible to utilize the services of a dog effectively in India for many, many reasons. Training a guide dog is not the same thing as training a police dog and the police dog trainer is correct to refuse to train her dogs as guides for blind people. Jean Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in with warm regards Mahendra Galani window's live ID mahendragal...@hotmail.com skype ID chintu3886 phone +4314943149 mobile +4369910366055, address Herbst strasse 101.16.1 Vienna Austria Europe - Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode
Re: [AI] guide dogs in India
Certain misconceptions need to be cleared here: Anyone talking about clean streets, you only have to visit New York to see how rats room around streets, subway trains etc and it does not prevent blind people here from using dogs. True people do have to face situations like other people trying to pet the working dogs etc and it does creat problems for a guide dog here. Nowhere are the visually challenged people well off. I can say that it certainly includes the United States. So to emphasize my point again, none of these should be excuses to avoid taking-up this issue in India. Vetri. On 03/09/2011, anand Sharma sharmaanandan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have seen vi using guide dog in England and one can use guide dog without much difficulty at least in London for sure as I have travelled all parts of London through all means of transportation anand - Original Message - From: Adina Galani lotusflowe...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [AI] guide dogs in India It is like that, not knowing about England, but in Austria, first, one does not have street dogs, and I mean it, not a single one! Busses and underground/trams/trains are assured with low step to climb, so a guide dog can manage easily. On top, communication with a dog, especially with a guide one on the road, can turn into a big issue if anything happens and the dog was distracted by someone else, which means, it is forbidden for children and/or grown ups to communicate with a guide dog on the road, unless emergency situations. Not to mention, the hygeen level a dog requiers, especially if living indoors is very very costly, by all means and I am sure this increases still when it comes to a country with a summer climate like India. Adina - Original Message - From: Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [AI] guide dogs in India Which of these problems are not faced by people using guide dogs in, say, England? On 03/09/2011, mahendra gal...@chello.at wrote: i think it is not that simple, first, one must creat right condition. second, blind people useing public transport with guide dog, will be very difficult, as it is not accesible. and dog will have to compete with so many travelers. further when dog is working, people may try and comunacate with dog. wiche may bother its work. , how it At 12:02 PM 9/3/2011, you wrote: Tell me something. Do visually impaired people in India lead as good a life as visually impaired people do in the US? They don't, right? So, in the same way, guide dogs might not work as effectively in India as they do in the US, but I don't think that is a good enough reason for not getting a guide dog. On 03/09/2011, Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com wrote: Friends: I had a guide dog for many years in the US. I can tell you that it would be next to impossible to utilize the services of a dog effectively in India for many, many reasons. Training a guide dog is not the same thing as training a police dog and the police dog trainer is correct to refuse to train her dogs as guides for blind people. Jean Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in with warm regards Mahendra Galani window's live ID mahendragal...@hotmail.com skype ID chintu3886 phone +4314943149 mobile +4369910366055, address Herbst strasse 101.16.1 Vienna Austria Europe - Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please
Re: [AI] guide dogs in India
here in india there are lot of street dogs if a V I person goes with guide dog it will be very difficult for v i person to control his dog from street dogs. if one is having own vehicle then its fine to take a guide dog. On 9/4/11, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan vadhimoo...@gmail.com wrote: Certain misconceptions need to be cleared here: Anyone talking about clean streets, you only have to visit New York to see how rats room around streets, subway trains etc and it does not prevent blind people here from using dogs. True people do have to face situations like other people trying to pet the working dogs etc and it does creat problems for a guide dog here. Nowhere are the visually challenged people well off. I can say that it certainly includes the United States. So to emphasize my point again, none of these should be excuses to avoid taking-up this issue in India. Vetri. On 03/09/2011, anand Sharma sharmaanandan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have seen vi using guide dog in England and one can use guide dog without much difficulty at least in London for sure as I have travelled all parts of London through all means of transportation anand - Original Message - From: Adina Galani lotusflowe...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [AI] guide dogs in India It is like that, not knowing about England, but in Austria, first, one does not have street dogs, and I mean it, not a single one! Busses and underground/trams/trains are assured with low step to climb, so a guide dog can manage easily. On top, communication with a dog, especially with a guide one on the road, can turn into a big issue if anything happens and the dog was distracted by someone else, which means, it is forbidden for children and/or grown ups to communicate with a guide dog on the road, unless emergency situations. Not to mention, the hygeen level a dog requiers, especially if living indoors is very very costly, by all means and I am sure this increases still when it comes to a country with a summer climate like India. Adina - Original Message - From: Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [AI] guide dogs in India Which of these problems are not faced by people using guide dogs in, say, England? On 03/09/2011, mahendra gal...@chello.at wrote: i think it is not that simple, first, one must creat right condition. second, blind people useing public transport with guide dog, will be very difficult, as it is not accesible. and dog will have to compete with so many travelers. further when dog is working, people may try and comunacate with dog. wiche may bother its work. , how it At 12:02 PM 9/3/2011, you wrote: Tell me something. Do visually impaired people in India lead as good a life as visually impaired people do in the US? They don't, right? So, in the same way, guide dogs might not work as effectively in India as they do in the US, but I don't think that is a good enough reason for not getting a guide dog. On 03/09/2011, Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com wrote: Friends: I had a guide dog for many years in the US. I can tell you that it would be next to impossible to utilize the services of a dog effectively in India for many, many reasons. Training a guide dog is not the same thing as training a police dog and the police dog trainer is correct to refuse to train her dogs as guides for blind people. Jean Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in with warm regards Mahendra Galani window's live ID mahendragal...@hotmail.com skype ID chintu3886 phone +4314943149 mobile +4369910366055, address Herbst strasse 101.16.1 Vienna Austria Europe - Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo
