Re: [AFMUG] Any WISP on-list operating a Tier 3 DMR trunking system?

[Philip Rankin]

I have several of the uhf paging channels available for sale in Arkansas,
Kansas and Missouri if anyone is interested.

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 11:12 AM Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> Connect Plus was the first Motorola DMR true trunk system with a control
> channel and multi site. It has been superceded by the Cap Max system. All
> channels we have are FB8 of course. I aquired a bunch in our area that were
> old UHF paging licenses in an FCC auction maybe 4 or 5 years ago. It's
> nioce as they were 50Khz and MSA based so I can just slap sites in where I
> want without filing as long as I don't overlap the contour edge. The
> difference is
>
>1. Connect Plus is the old system
>   1. controller at each site
>   2. no license per repeater
>   3. slightly slower site selection
>2. Cap Max
>   1. Central controller, not per site, can be redundant
>   2. license for each repeater
>   3. XPR 4xxx and 6xxx radios won't work.
>   4. Must use XPR 5xxx and 7xxx
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 7:51 AM Kurt Fankhauser 
> wrote:
>
>> Lewis,
>>
>> So your operating either a Motorola Capacity Max or Hytera Tier 3 with
>> control channels on an FB8 license? Not a Capacity Plus system?
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 8:34 AM Lewis Bergman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes. What questions do you have?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 10:20 PM Kurt Fankhauser <
>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Is there any Wisp/2-way dealer on list here that is operating a Hytera
 or Motorola/Mototrbo Tier 3 DMR Digital Trunk system? I'm talking a full
 Trunking system with FB8 license in UHF and everything.
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Re: [AFMUG] CNmaestro on premises AP drops

[Sam Lambie]

yeah I saw that in the Cambium forums that you posted Hey Cambium! your
gear is expensive! How about a little help with your expensive gear that we
have purchased a lot of here please?

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 5:14 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:

> we see the same thing sometimes.  it seems to happen if the network
> glitches and the AP fails to reach the server 5 times then it just hangs in
> the "down" state and never tries to recover.  i've opened several forum
> posts with no answer from cambium.  we just reboot and move on which is a
> PITA
>
> -sean
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 4:46 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> Cnmaestro keeps claiming that my AP's are down even though they are
>> perfectly accessible at all times.
>> This is a local server. It drives me nuts and the only that I can see to
>> fix it is to reboot. Anyone have any insight on why this happens? Or how to
>> fix without a reboot?
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Re: [AFMUG] CNmaestro on premises AP drops

[Sean Heskett]

we see the same thing sometimes.  it seems to happen if the network
glitches and the AP fails to reach the server 5 times then it just hangs in
the "down" state and never tries to recover.  i've opened several forum
posts with no answer from cambium.  we just reboot and move on which is a
PITA

-sean


On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 4:46 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:

> Cnmaestro keeps claiming that my AP's are down even though they are
> perfectly accessible at all times.
> This is a local server. It drives me nuts and the only that I can see to
> fix it is to reboot. Anyone have any insight on why this happens? Or how to
> fix without a reboot?
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[AFMUG] CNmaestro on premises AP drops

[Sam Lambie]

Cnmaestro keeps claiming that my AP's are down even though they are
perfectly accessible at all times.
This is a local server. It drives me nuts and the only that I can see to
fix it is to reboot. Anyone have any insight on why this happens? Or how to
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Re: [AFMUG] Fiber deployment relative cost

[chuck]

Boring does not work so well in rock.  For that you need a rock saw.  If it is 
loose rock and soil, then plowing would be the best way to go.  The drill 
vendors all do demos of drilling through solid rock, but that is not reality.  
Vermeer makes some really good rock saw/trencher products.  

Aerial has the recurring cost too, so that must be factored in.  

From: Colin Stanners 
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 4:32 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber deployment relative cost

Aerial could be like 20% of the cost of underground if your utility says "you 
can go on the poles right away, just pay a few small fees" or 100% if they say 
"every pole on that road is at capacity [aka old/unsafe] so you need to pay to 
get them all replaced before you can attach".

Did you drive the path to take a look at the poles' age or capacity load? Know 
anyone at the utility who could give you hints?



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Re: [AFMUG] Fiber deployment relative cost

[Colin Stanners]

Aerial could be like 20% of the cost of underground if your utility says
"you can go on the poles right away, just pay a few small fees" or 100% if
they say "every pole on that road is at capacity [aka old/unsafe] so you
need to pay to get them all replaced before you can attach".

Did you drive the path to take a look at the poles' age or capacity load?
Know anyone at the utility who could give you hints?


On Wed, Jan 9, 2019, 8:25 AM SmarterBroadband  Need a quick relative cost of underground versus aerial deployment in a
> foothills area where there is a lot of granite so will need a high
> percentage of boring.
>
>
>
> Would aerial cost likely be 50% of underground?  40%. 30%???
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[AFMUG] Fiber deployment relative cost

[SmarterBroadband]

Need a quick relative cost of underground versus aerial deployment in a
foothills area where there is a lot of granite so will need a high
percentage of boring.

 

Would aerial cost likely be 50% of underground?  40%. 30%???

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Re: [AFMUG] Ot: new installer

[Sam Lambie]

Nice Buns


On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 3:16 AM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> May take a little time to get her tower ready and memorize 568b.
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT My 2018 Email Traffic

[Steve Jones]

his email is toast. they took his address list, probably are forwarding
copies, spam signed him up for mailing lists etc. its a real pita

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 11:08 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> I had a customer call yesterday saying he suddenly received 4000 emails in
> one day, plus 2 of his credit cards were “hacked” by which he means
> fraudulent purchases.  And somehow he is thinking this is his ISPs fault.
> I have heard lots of email problems through the years, but suddenly 4000
> emails in one day is a new one, especially if they all passed the spam
> filter.  And as far as his Best Buy credit card which he says he hasn’t
> used in 2 years and isn’t on his computer, all I can say is who has a Best
> Buy credit card?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Monday, January 7, 2019 4:56 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT My 2018 Email Traffic
>
>
>
> 17225Received
>
> 13481Sent
>
>
>
> 30706Total
>
>
>
> 14.76 emails per hour either read or written if confined to work hours
> only.
>
> Averages 1 every 4 minutes.
>
>
>
> Additionally about 9229 animal farm emails for fun.
>
>
>
> And my kids think I should also text and FB and tweet and and and
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Re: [AFMUG] OT My 2018 Email Traffic

[Chuck McCown]

I keep mine with my BlockBuster card.

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 10:07 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT My 2018 Email Traffic

I had a customer call yesterday saying he suddenly received 4000 emails in one 
day, plus 2 of his credit cards were “hacked” by which he means fraudulent 
purchases.  And somehow he is thinking this is his ISPs fault.  I have heard 
lots of email problems through the years, but suddenly 4000 emails in one day 
is a new one, especially if they all passed the spam filter.  And as far as his 
Best Buy credit card which he says he hasn’t used in 2 years and isn’t on his 
computer, all I can say is who has a Best Buy credit card?

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 4:56 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT My 2018 Email Traffic

 

17225Received

13481Sent

 

30706Total

 

14.76 emails per hour either read or written if confined to work hours only.  

Averages 1 every 4 minutes.  

 

Additionally about 9229 animal farm emails for fun.  

 

And my kids think I should also text and FB and tweet and and and




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Re: [AFMUG] Any WISP on-list operating a Tier 3 DMR trunking system?

[Lewis Bergman]

Connect Plus was the first Motorola DMR true trunk system with a control
channel and multi site. It has been superceded by the Cap Max system. All
channels we have are FB8 of course. I aquired a bunch in our area that were
old UHF paging licenses in an FCC auction maybe 4 or 5 years ago. It's
nioce as they were 50Khz and MSA based so I can just slap sites in where I
want without filing as long as I don't overlap the contour edge. The
difference is

   1. Connect Plus is the old system
  1. controller at each site
  2. no license per repeater
  3. slightly slower site selection
   2. Cap Max
  1. Central controller, not per site, can be redundant
  2. license for each repeater
  3. XPR 4xxx and 6xxx radios won't work.
  4. Must use XPR 5xxx and 7xxx


On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 7:51 AM Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> Lewis,
>
> So your operating either a Motorola Capacity Max or Hytera Tier 3 with
> control channels on an FB8 license? Not a Capacity Plus system?
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 8:34 AM Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes. What questions do you have?
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 10:20 PM Kurt Fankhauser 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there any Wisp/2-way dealer on list here that is operating a Hytera
>>> or Motorola/Mototrbo Tier 3 DMR Digital Trunk system? I'm talking a full
>>> Trunking system with FB8 license in UHF and everything.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT My 2018 Email Traffic

[Ken Hohhof]

I had a customer call yesterday saying he suddenly received 4000 emails in
one day, plus 2 of his credit cards were "hacked" by which he means
fraudulent purchases.  And somehow he is thinking this is his ISPs fault.  I
have heard lots of email problems through the years, but suddenly 4000
emails in one day is a new one, especially if they all passed the spam
filter.  And as far as his Best Buy credit card which he says he hasn't used
in 2 years and isn't on his computer, all I can say is who has a Best Buy
credit card?

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 4:56 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT My 2018 Email Traffic

 

17225Received

13481Sent

 

30706Total

 

14.76 emails per hour either read or written if confined to work hours only.


Averages 1 every 4 minutes.  

 

Additionally about 9229 animal farm emails for fun.  

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT My 2018 Email Traffic

[Joe Novak]

Shrugs, email is a easy digest for me.. I can usually make it through the
email threads in between other stuff, and there is less distraction then FB.

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 9:38 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> No idea.  Maybe someone else does.
>
> *From:* Jeff Evans
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 08, 2019 6:28 AM
> *To:* ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT My 2018 Email Traffic
>
> Hi Chuck,  I sent the message below using 'reply to list'   your list
> still does not like me.
>
> On 1/8/2019 7:53 AM, Jeff Evans wrote:
>
> Yeah,  I have no idea how some of you folks get any work done, seriously I
> don't even have time to read them all.
>
>
> On 1/7/2019 5:55 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> 17225Received
> 13481Sent
>
> 30706Total
>
> 14.76 emails per hour either read or written if confined to work hours
> only.
> Averages 1 every 4 minutes.
>
> Additionally about 9229 animal farm emails for fun.
>
> And my kids think I should also text and FB and tweet and and and
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Re: [AFMUG] OT My 2018 Email Traffic

[Chuck McCown]

No idea.  Maybe someone else does.  

From: Jeff Evans 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 6:28 AM
To: ch...@wbmfg.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT My 2018 Email Traffic

Hi Chuck,  I sent the message below using 'reply to list'   your list still 
does not like me.

On 1/8/2019 7:53 AM, Jeff Evans wrote:

  Yeah,  I have no idea how some of you folks get any work done, seriously I 
don't even have time to read them all.




  On 1/7/2019 5:55 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

17225Received
13481Sent

30706Total

14.76 emails per hour either read or written if confined to work hours 
only.  
Averages 1 every 4 minutes.  

Additionally about 9229 animal farm emails for fun.  

And my kids think I should also text and FB and tweet and and and

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Re: [AFMUG] Ot: new installer

[Steve Jones]

This is 3 and the two temp guys

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019, 7:36 AM Lewis Bergman  I am not sure what is going on here or where, but she looks comfy.
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 4:15 AM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> May take a little time to get her tower ready and memorize 568b.
>>
>> Catherine Irene
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Re: [AFMUG] "Travel Router" with USB and AC

[Timothy Steele]

https://www.wd.com/products/portable-storage/my-passport-wireless-pro.html

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 7:53 PM Paul McCall  wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
>
>
> I stumbled on this cool device, that acts like a NAS server, has a 1
> mAh battery built in, and shows up as an AP that you can pull data (stream)
> data from.  Which makes it cool when traveling to stick a USB with large
> data (Movies) on it and stream to your local device.
>
>
>
> However, this one only does 2.4 Ghz (N) and can’t keep up with some
> streaming.
>
>
>
> Anyone using something similar but has 5Ghz  (AC)?  The large battery is
> not a requirement for me, but maybe half that would be required to stream
> during a 3 hour flight.
>
>
>
> Paul
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Re: [AFMUG] Any WISP on-list operating a Tier 3 DMR trunking system?

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Lewis,

So your operating either a Motorola Capacity Max or Hytera Tier 3 with
control channels on an FB8 license? Not a Capacity Plus system?

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 8:34 AM Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> Yes. What questions do you have?
>
> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 10:20 PM Kurt Fankhauser 
> wrote:
>
>> Is there any Wisp/2-way dealer on list here that is operating a Hytera or
>> Motorola/Mototrbo Tier 3 DMR Digital Trunk system? I'm talking a full
>> Trunking system with FB8 license in UHF and everything.
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Re: [AFMUG] Ot: new installer

[Lewis Bergman]

I am not sure what is going on here or where, but she looks comfy.

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 4:15 AM Steve Jones 
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> May take a little time to get her tower ready and memorize 568b.
>
> Catherine Irene
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Re: [AFMUG] Any WISP on-list operating a Tier 3 DMR trunking system?

[Lewis Bergman]

Yes. What questions do you have?

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 10:20 PM Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> Is there any Wisp/2-way dealer on list here that is operating a Hytera or
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Re: [AFMUG] Ot: new installer

[Chuck McCown]

What’s the count now?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 8, 2019, at 3:15 AM, Steve Jones  wrote:
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> May take a little time to get her tower ready and memorize 568b.
> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Installer color code for EPMP

[Steve Jones]

i find it a fair trade off in cost. We were in process of pulling the 450
trigger when we tossed up EPMP for kicks. For the price on our size sites
with only 20 to 40 customers per AP lacking ICC and tones is a non issue.
You have to touch them all to verify firmare anyway, dumping config only
adds maybe 30 seconds

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 8:40 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> And I assume I’m not the only person who has ever tightened the screw on
> the back of a 450b hi-gain too tight and pulled the threaded insert out of
> the plastic in the feedtube?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 2, 2019 7:07 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Installer color code for EPMP
>
>
>
> It’s yet another case of Cambium completely ignoring how customers use the
> product and why the original Canopy equipment was so successful.
>
>
>
> AP proxy access to the SM, installer color code, and audio alignment allow
> an installer to install without every having to use a computer - everything
> is accessible to the CSR at the office.
>
>
>
> SM’s with snap on caps in waterproof upside down cups.Go ahead Cambium
> - keep coming up with complex and difficult to install cable entry designs.
>   How many tiny parts and things to drop does a 450b have?   Way too many.
>
>
>
> Brick power supplies with POE and data ports that look identical?   At
> least the original Canopy power supply only had one way to plug in the
> cables wrong.  Now customers can come up with even more creative ways to
> wire it wrong.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Jan 2, 2019, at 7:38 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>
>
> right the equivalent for ePMP would be a 2nd SSID that allows for
> management access only.  The unconfigured SM would have to look for that
> SSID under some condition, such as if no other SSID allowed it to connect
> or maybe if there are no preferred SSID's configured.  The AP wouldn't have
> the 2nd SSID on by default, so it only works if you intentionally enable it.
>
> I'm betting there's no reason they couldn't do it.  Maybe they don't see
> much demand for that feature.
>
> On 1/2/2019 6:04 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> Installer color code is actually something different.  It allows an
> installer to register an unconfigured SM to an AP, it won’t pass customer
> data, but someone at the office can log into it via the AP proxy and put in
> the color code.  I say “unconfigured”, but I really mean generic config,
> you need to have the frequency enabled.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF   *On Behalf
> Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 2, 2019 2:39 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Installer color code for EPMP
>
>
>
> I've had tons of issues over the years, including yesterday, where we had
> multiple Preferred APs.  Having 1 is only a disadvantage when the one AP
> goes bad with a nearby "backup" and if you're preparing for that I feel
> like you've got a lot more problems on your hand.
>
>
>
> I guess maybe it is a feature sell on the 450 =(
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 2:20 PM Josh Baird  wrote:
>
> Yep - because manually shuffling customers around after an outage is super
> annoying.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 2:15 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
> Yeah, I know... Cambium said they were looking into doing that at one
> point, but it doesn't seem like anything will every come of it... maybe
> they'll at least do it on the ePMP 3000 at some point.
>
>
>
> Ideally, if a preferred AP isn't set, it should periodically rescan for
> the strongest AP, and if a preferred AP is set, it should rescan for the
> preferred AP.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 1:00 PM Josh Baird  wrote:
>
> Only thing annoying about NOT SETTING a preferred AP is that if the AP
> reboots, customers can hop over to a non-ideal AP.
>
>
>
> Only bad thing about SETTING a preferred AP is that clients can't hop over
> to another AP if you need to take an AP offline for an extended period of
> time.
>
>
>
> If only the SM would periodically rescan when it's NOT connected to the
> preferred AP, and reconnect to the preferred AP.. but Cambium doesn't seem
> to be listening.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 1:29 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
> Yeah, we do the same. If you use the same key everywhere, and just don't
> set any preferred AP, it will connect to any AP that key is valid on.
>
>
>
> We generally never even bother setting a preferred AP, unless we have
> problems with a particular SM connecting to the wrong AP.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 12:18 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
> we just use the same key with different ESSIDs and have a dump file. We
> cant go new out of box, but nothing leaves the shop without the dump file
> and it only takes a couple minutes in the van if its not there.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 3:08 PM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> Has this