Re: [AFMUG] Looking for feedback on the Airspan LTE in 3ghz

[Matt Corcoran]

My Airspan experience was with Wimax.  Maybe its less relevant now.

The Good:
-There Netspan software for management was great because it provides useful 
statistical graphs of average noise levels and system efficiency(modulation 
frame useage).  (In comparison Bailcells doesn’t have that.)
-The airsynergy hardware was solid,  Although years afterwards we had to re-up 
our support because the GPS epoch was not handled a few years ago.
-Spoke good English

The Bad
-Some of the features present in Netspan were not actually implemented.  For 
instance when you choose an AP for the customers, it doesn’t actively keep them 
on it.
-The Air4G hardware never worked reliably.
-Support could never really fix any problems except for the GPS epoch issue.
Matt Corcoran

Stratos Networks


From: AF  on behalf of Brandon Yuchasz 

Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 1:09 PM
To: "af@af.afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] Looking for feedback on the Airspan LTE in 3ghz

I was off the list for a few months so I apologize if this was discussed 
recently and I missed it.
Looking for feedback from WISPs using the Airspan LTE in 3ghz ideally from 
WISPs that were / are 900mhz and 2.4ghz in tree covered environments. We  
evolved out of FSK 900 into 2.4 ePMP and 450i 900mhz and have grown 
substantially and can continue to grow using these platforms but are looking 
for something we can deploy 25/3 on and use for additional growth where we have 
exhausted the available spectrum in the other frequencies.  I would also be 
interested in hearing how you handle tech support calls on the LTE. We have in 
house support and CnMaestro has been a good solution for first level to check 
basic connectivity and signal levels before digging in deeper to the issues. I 
suspect the LTE interface won’t be quite as easy and will have a learning curve.
Thanks,
Brandon

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Re: [AFMUG] Electrical engineer

[Matt Corcoran]

My grandpa use to take me to radio shack for my birthday each year and I would 
go pick out new chips and transistors and stuff I had not played with yet.


From: AF  on behalf of Jaime Solorza 

Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Friday, December 11, 2020 at 11:20 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Electrical engineer

My grandson Noah, an EE in training will help you in about 8 years if you can 
wait .
Has his own Fluke meters grandpa bought him for birthday!

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 5:29 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
What is the project?
Sent from my iPhone


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Anyone in the group an electrical engineer or know someone who we can pay a 
consulting fee?

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Emergency Vehicle LEDs

[Matt Corcoran]

My pet peeve is those flashing bicycle LED headlights that are pointed in your 
face and brighter than a car.  You can’t even see the road or tell they are a 
bicycle until you flash your high beams and get past them.


From: AF  on behalf of Carl Peterson 

Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 1:43 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Emergency Vehicle LEDs

My pet peeve is people who replace standard headlight bulbs with LED bulbs but 
leave the standard reflectors.  It really should be treated like the reckless 
endangerment it is and result in jail time.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 10:53 AM Ken Hohhof 
mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
It was part of a long list of tests that vendors had to actually perform before 
they could sell them equipment.  Temperature, humidity, vibration, earthquake, 
etc.  I seem to remember there was a UPS test where the packaged equipment had 
to survive a drop from 6 feet on each side and corner.

But where exactly the 50 feet came from, I don’t know.  Maybe that’s the 
average distance from a car window to a repeater housing in the ROW.

I find it interesting that I rarely see pockmarked stop signs on rural roads 
anymore.  Maybe it’s more fun now to play COD on the Playstation.


From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 10:36 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Emergency Vehicle LEDs

thats oddly specific

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 10:35 AM Ken Hohhof 
mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
There’s a reason Bell System specs for outdoor equipment had a requirement to 
withstand a blast from a 12 gauge shotgun at 50 feet.


From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 10:01 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Emergency Vehicle LEDs

im suspecting people with rifles is whats causing the wind turbine blades 
around here to break off. rural customers are a different type

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 9:53 AM Ken Hohhof 
mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
Maybe it’s an FAA recommendation not a regulation.

I can also say we’re a tenant on a commercial tower that must have had a 
problem with the photocell because for several months it was stuck in white 
strobe mode.  We had several neighbors call us to complain about it as a 
nuisance, and we had to tell them we’d pass the information along to the tower 
owner but we did not control the lighting system.  If it was my tower, I 
wouldn’t want people with rifles to take things into their own hands.


From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cameron Crum
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 9:26 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Emergency Vehicle LEDs

I had to refile about 200 towers with the FAA and FCC for Sprint back in the 
90's. As far as I know, there is no requirement for towers with white strobes 
to change to red at night. They can if they want to, but there is no regulation 
requiring it. That being said, I agree it is difficult to see much other than 
the emergency lights when approaching them at night.

On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 6:50 PM Ken Hohhof 
mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
Maybe tell them how tower lights are white strobes during the day but are 
required to change to lower intensity red at night.

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Matt Hoppes
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 6:35 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Emergency Vehicle LEDs

Yup. Often approaching an accident all I can see are the cop car lights. Can’t 
see the cop directing traffic or literally anything going on.

Extremely unsafe.

The problem is they have no intensity setting. It’s day mode all the time

On Dec 1, 2020, at 7:24 PM, Steve Jones 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
crazy dangerous. The worst are the snowplows. it used to be in bad snowstorms 
was a godsend to get behind a plow where you could follow their lights. now you 
will die because youre blinded if youre within a mile of it. There is no 
additional "safety" for emergency services ove the prior existing lights that 
actually had science behind the color, cadence and brightness,

On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 6:13 PM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] 
mailto:j...@brazoswifi.com>> wrote:
I agree.
I brought this up at a fire department meeting and they acted as if I had 
proposed removing all lights.

I was just pointing out that at some point, it becomes dangerous to bystanders.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
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From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Nate Burke
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 6:06 PM
To: Animal Farm mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Emergency Vehicle LEDs

Am I the only

Re: [AFMUG] Dhcp-relay into ospf

[Matt Corcoran]

We summarize the ospf routes and use microtik filters.   So the routes still 
get advertised via OSPF,   just not for each individual customer dhcp lease.

From: AF  on behalf of Dennis Burgess via AF 

Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 8:39 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Dennis Burgess 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dhcp-relay into ospf

They should be static routes, so you should not have to distribute connected.


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From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 6:15 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dhcp-relay into ospf

you want a dhcp client interface to by dynamically added to the routes?
youre gonna get yelled at for distributing connected routes
i think youd have to have an all interface defines and a 
0.0.0.0/0 network if you dont know the subnet that will be 
assigned if this is part of your osfp  routing network
otherwise distribute connected routes should propagate

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 6:02 PM Matt Hoppes 
mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> 
wrote:
Anyone here successfully setup dhcp-relay with ospf so that when the relay adds 
an address to the pool that address goes out through ospf?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT

[Matt Corcoran]

More like,  The game was won by 8 points, however the opposing team though it 
would be a good idea to allow footballs to be mailed to the endzone, then after 
everyone had left the stadium,   footballs just kept arriving.Oh and 
referees relabeled as judgmental bigots.

My only point here is: who screwed up football? .The Left



On 11/20/20, 10:35 AM, "AF on behalf of Bill Prince"  wrote:

More like:

The game was lost by 8 points.  We're heading home in traffic. Joe Buck 
comes on the radio announcing the losing team wants a review of the last 
5 plays.


bp


On 11/19/2020 10:06 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> Analogy: 2 seconds left in the game.   Down by 8 points. Trump.  Onside 
kick.  Did not go 10 yards.  Time to fight traffic leaving the stadium.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [AFMUG] FW: OT windows update issues

[Matt Corcoran]

Ok, so  I understand the difference between the Trash and Junk folders now.
But what exactly happens when I put mail in the “Recycle Bin”? ha ha



From: AF  on behalf of Adam Moffett 

Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 at 3:21 PM
To: "af@af.afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FW: OT windows update issues


This reminds me of something that came up on the mailop.org mailing list a few 
months ago.

In Microsoft world (Hotmail, MSN, live.com, etc) there's a "Junk" button which 
moves messages to the "Junk" folder.  It also initiates feedback loop reports 
and can get senders blacklisted.

Well, in the USA there's a historical colloquial understanding that "junk" mail 
means unsolicited advertising.  If you're a young person who didn't grow up 
with Junk mail and Junk faxes, or if you're in another country looking at a 
translated view of the software, then what exactly is the difference between 
"Junk" and "Trash"?   As you might have guessed at this point, it's been found 
that some Microsoft mail users are using "Junk" as the delete button and 
thereby reporting every message as spam.


On 11/18/2020 1:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
It used to be the fix for AOL was to sign up for their “feedback loop”.  
Basically they send you every message from your mailserver that some AOL 
customer clicked on “Report as Spam” and you are supposed to review them, in 
return they don’t blacklist you.  (is there a new non offensive term for 
blacklist?)

I’m not sure it’s still active.

Part of the problem is that AOL users aren’t the sharpest knives in the drawer, 
and many think the way to unsubscribe from a list is to click on “Report as 
Spam”.  I would say when we were reviewing supposed spam from the AOL feedback 
loop, at least 95% of it was not spam.  For example, we hosted mail for several 
churches.  New members or visitors would sign in with their contact info 
including an AOL email address, and the church would start sending them weekly 
newsletters.  And they would click on “Report as Spam”.  On the other hand, 
when an email customer got their credentials compromised and used to send spam, 
AOL would often be an early warning system.  But our mailserver throttles 
outgoing mail at 100 in an hour per account and notifies us, and that serves as 
an early warning system.

Customers with malware on their computers harvesting their email password is an 
ongoing problem.  Sometimes we are changing email passwords every 2-3 weeks for 
the same customer until they disinfect all their devices.  The usual advice use 
a complex password is useless if it is being harvested with something like a 
keylogger.


From: AF <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of 
Matt Corcoran
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:31 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FW: OT windows update issues

AOL has its own problems.Only AOL customers cannot receive our email 
invoices and billing alerts.  I can’t get them to fix it.   People don’t like 
me telling them to change email addresses.   But if the mail man regularly 
chucks your mail out the window, you need to talk to the postal service or 
switch to UPS.

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf of 
Nate Burke mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>>
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 at 10:43 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FW: OT windows update issues

Running the mail server is easy.  Continually managing the server is hard.  
Hacked customer accounts, SMTP Relays, It's always 'YOUR' fault that they 
either cannot receive an email from a friend, or cannot send an email to that 
friend.  And the dreaded walking a customer through setting up their email 
client.

I.E. AOL randomly just dumps mail from me, their servers accept it, but never 
deliver it.  I have no idea why, or any rhyme or reason to it.  But it's MY 
fault when a customer can't send to their friend at AOL.  And now I'm spending 
time looking through logs etc.  That time all adds up.
On 11/18/2020 9:34 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
I don't know why people think it's difficult.


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Re: [AFMUG] FW: OT windows update issues

[Matt Corcoran]

AOL has its own problems.Only AOL customers cannot receive our email 
invoices and billing alerts.  I can’t get them to fix it.   People don’t like 
me telling them to change email addresses.   But if the mail man regularly 
chucks your mail out the window, you need to talk to the postal service or 
switch to UPS.
From: AF  on behalf of Nate Burke 
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 at 10:43 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FW: OT windows update issues

Running the mail server is easy.  Continually managing the server is hard.  
Hacked customer accounts, SMTP Relays, It's always 'YOUR' fault that they 
either cannot receive an email from a friend, or cannot send an email to that 
friend.  And the dreaded walking a customer through setting up their email 
client.

I.E. AOL randomly just dumps mail from me, their servers accept it, but never 
deliver it.  I have no idea why, or any rhyme or reason to it.  But it's MY 
fault when a customer can't send to their friend at AOL.  And now I'm spending 
time looking through logs etc.  That time all adds up.
On 11/18/2020 9:34 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
I don't know why people think it's difficult.


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From: "Lewis Bergman" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 1:10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FW: OT windows update issues
Or so he thinks. I hope it works out that way. it always seemed really cheap to 
run a mail server, until you had to do it right. Then it came to be very 
expensive. I surrendered and went to GMail. To each his own though. I know you 
likely have a lot smarter people than me around so they will likely handle it 
with no issue.

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 12:40 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
Cost.  We have lots of accounts on it and lists and all kinds of other things.  
We put in our own email server concurrent with a new domain.  So it will save a 
significant amount of money for us.

From: Darin Steffl 
[mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:31 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Cc: Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FW: OT windows update issues

Why are you leaving Gmail? There's nothing better unless you need to live in 
the Microsoft ecosystem then you have office 365.

We love Google apps for business and I use it for personal email too. They 
never let me down.

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 11:59 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
On top of all of this, we are migrating away from gmail today.  PITA

From: Chuck McCown [mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 10:46 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: OT windows update issues

So, today it appears that my Windows Live Mail database is corrupt.  Can only 
see headers.  So switching to outlook but that is painful.
I rolled back the windows update that happened last night but still dead WLM… 
sob…

Have resisted outlook for years.  Few times it would be nice.  When someone 
sends a meeting or contact at least I can read it without having to use a text 
editor and parsing through the complex crap…
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Re: [AFMUG] FW: OT windows update issues

[Matt Corcoran]

This was my experience 12 years ago:   Has it changed?

The upkeep is when someone’s email triggers your domain to get added to a spam 
list and your customers call you because they can no longer receive any emails 
from  allpeo...@populardomain.com. Then you finally reach the right 
department at populardomain.com and open a ticket to get unblocked.   Then 
repeat procedure each month with a new domain.  Then keep up with that 
latest security protocols and spam lists to try to prevent that from happening. 
Oh an make sure someone doesn’t hack your server.


From: AF  on behalf of Bill Prince 

Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 2:36 PM
To: "af@af.afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FW: OT windows update issues


I think you're right Lewis. The cost of the machine(s) and software is minor. 
It's the monthly upkeep that will tip the scales. But hey, we all have our 
opinions, and what's the harm in giving it a shot?



bp


On 11/17/2020 11:10 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
Or so he thinks. I hope it works out that way. it always seemed really cheap to 
run a mail server, until you had to do it right. Then it came to be very 
expensive. I surrendered and went to GMail. To each his own though. I know you 
likely have a lot smarter people than me around so they will likely handle it 
with no issue.

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 12:40 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
Cost.  We have lots of accounts on it and lists and all kinds of other things.  
We put in our own email server concurrent with a new domain.  So it will save a 
significant amount of money for us.

From: Darin Steffl 
[mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:31 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Cc: Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FW: OT windows update issues

Why are you leaving Gmail? There's nothing better unless you need to live in 
the Microsoft ecosystem then you have office 365.

We love Google apps for business and I use it for personal email too. They 
never let me down.

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 11:59 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
On top of all of this, we are migrating away from gmail today.  PITA

From: Chuck McCown [mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 10:46 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: OT windows update issues

So, today it appears that my Windows Live Mail database is corrupt.  Can only 
see headers.  So switching to outlook but that is painful.
I rolled back the windows update that happened last night but still dead WLM… 
sob…

Have resisted outlook for years.  Few times it would be nice.  When someone 
sends a meeting or contact at least I can read it without having to use a text 
editor and parsing through the complex crap…
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Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update issues

[Matt Corcoran]

-People that need help using desktop email programs should be using gmail 
instead.
-People who understand how to simply setup an imap account should use a desktop 
client for many advantages:  speed, offline cache, low data use, offline 
searchability, os integration, drag and drop, easy reorganization, attachment 
cache,   read/delete/send before you can get online. (Especially 
considering many of our customer locations have sketchy cell service.)

For Windows users here is 1 more reason…. Some idiot decided that the backspace 
button in your browser should dump the current webpage with your 90% complete 
email and go back to the previous webpage.

I’ve been using IMAP since macOS9 / AOL days.I haven’t used POP since 
Netscape navigator.  I use osx and ios Mail for gmail and Outlook for work.



From: AF  on behalf of Darin Steffl 

Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 1:29 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update issues

Can I ask why anyone likes using desktop email programs? Ever since I was a 
kid, I've dreaded helping people with outlook, live mail, or thunderbird 
because of issues like you're describing.

Also people who didn't set up IMAP so their emails disappeared off their email 
server and only existed on their computer. Then they didn't back things up so 
when their computer crashed, bye bye to all their emails. Or if they bought a 
new computer and need to migrate, it takes an hour or two to backup and move 
the outlook file.

Holy crap I shiver when I think about desktop email.

Gmail.com and then move on with life. Forget about database issues, new 
computers, spam filtering, multiple devices per account, backups, etc.

You couldn't convince me to ever use desktop email. That's so 2001 haha

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 12:05 PM Adam Moffett 
mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

EM Client can read the Outlook calendar invites.  It's free for 1 account.  
Paid version if you need to check multiple accounts. Mainly it's fast, even 
with a large Inbox.  Highly recommend.

It also syncs with my GMail Calendar.

Thunderbird performance seems inversely proportional to how much mail I have.  
Haven't used Outlook since the 2003 version.


On 11/17/2020 12:45 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
So, today it appears that my Windows Live Mail database is corrupt.  Can only 
see headers.  So switching to outlook but that is painful.
I rolled back the windows update that happened last night but still dead WLM… 
sob…

Have resisted outlook for years.  Few times it would be nice.  When someone 
sends a meeting or contact at least I can read it without having to use a text 
editor and parsing through the complex crap…


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[AFMUG] CBRS Google CPI Certificate via Coursera

[Matt Corcoran]

According to Coursera, Google's CBRS CPI Certificate (required for CBRS 
operation) remains unavailable since at least early October.

Has anyone successfully taken the Google CPI Certificate exam in the last month?

I had completed the training and sat down during my scheduled time with 
ProctorU but the exam would not load properly and I was told there is a known 
issue/technical problem.After 12 email runarounds asking if the issue was 
fixed, Coursera refunded the coarse.   Google said the course in only 
available via Coursera and they have been "looking into this" for the last two 
weeks.


My gut feeling is that Coursera just doesn't have anyone available or competent 
to respond.   Maybe it actually works now,  but I sure hate to waste another 
day only to find out the exam is still broken.

Just curious if anyone else has experienced this?

Matt
Web Developer and Network/RF Engineer









 (Coursera Learner Support)

#  ###

Hello Matthew,

Thank you for reaching out to us!

I am deeply sorry to let you know that this issue hasn't been fixed and we 
truly apologize for the hassle you have been experiencing with the Quiz of the 
Course Become a CBRS Certified Professional Installer by 
Google and my sincere 
apologies for the delay that our Engineering team is having on fixing the issue 
as we understand that this is affecting you at your work.

I’ve refunded the one-time payment you made towards this Course. You will see 
your funds returned to your original form of payment in 3-5 business days, 
depending on the processing speed of your bank.


Once again, my sincere apologies for this!

If you have any other questions or need further assistance, please feel free to 
let me know.

Happy learning,
Coursera Learner Services


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Re: [AFMUG] Time on Analog Phones

[Matt Corcoran]

I had the same problem 10 years with several customers all at once.   It turned 
out the ntp server referenced in the sip’s configuration was no longer 
available.  It was messing up the time on everyones caller IDs because the sip 
didn’t have any kind of backup clock.   I fixed a few Superas then decided to 
just override the DNS entry.


From: AF  on behalf of Mike Hammett 
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Friday, November 6, 2020 at 8:33 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Time on Analog Phones

I thought we had talked about this recently (and I thought it was Nate), but I 
can't find the conversation to figure out what's going on.

We recently have moved a couple customers off of Frontier to dialtone derived 
from our ONTs that are having problems. The only problem is that the time 
displayed on their phone is now no longer correct. They set the time and it 
stays for a bit, but then resets to something not correct. I guess when they 
were on Frontier, it worked correctly all of the time.

Would Frontier have had some kind of service setup on their POTS lines that 
provided time? I've never heard of such a thing.

I would think it was just a failing phone system, but to have multiple 
customers converted in a month all have the same problem? Seems fishy.


I'm assuming it's some kind of key system, but I don't know what as I haven't 
seen it.


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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Get Rich, Via FAX!

[Matt Corcoran]

Maybe someone has a backdoor/hack into some companies efax system/number.



From: AF  on behalf of Nate Burke 
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 9:43 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Get Rich, Via FAX!

I got a fax through that I just inherited $100,000,000.  It's the same
text you'd expect in an email, but formatted into a 8x11 and faxed.

Interesting that the Caller ID that the fax came from is the same number
that he says to fax back to in the fax (South Africa number).  Did
someone actually spend money for a phone line for this scam, not just
spamming out with free email accounts.

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Re: [AFMUG] MT DynaDish throughput

[Matt Corcoran]

Are you using the built in microtik speed test or are you testing through from 
an external device? If using the microtik speed test what are  TCP,  UDP,  
Up-only,  Down-only test results?  Externally I use iperf so I can try 
with multiple streams and know how exactly many streams the test is using.  
What is latency?   Maybe we can get a better ideas whats going on.



From: AF  on behalf of Adam Moffett 

Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 2:01 PM
To: "af@af.afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MT DynaDish throughput


This is in the back woods. SNR is reported as 39db.  Whether we believe that's 
accurate is possibly up for debate, but the physical rate stays pretty 
consistently at 390Mbps and CCQ stays above 90%.

I'm not sure what wall I'm hitting on real throughput though.  CPU only gets to 
25% or so during the test.  The Ethernet interfaces are gig.  I can get 
200Mbps+ testing to the near end of the link, but 90-97 testing through it 
one-way.




On 9/10/2020 1:55 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
80Mhz wide? No interference? What's your SNR?

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 11:52 AM Adam Moffett 
mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I don't normally do Mikrotik Wireless, but I inherited a DynaDish 5
link.  It's at -66 RSSI on each end, 80mhz channel size.

The physical rate is shown as 390Mbps in both directions, but actual
downstream throughput seems to vary from 90-97Mbps.  Is this normal for
the product?  Is there some known optimal config for a Mikrotik PTP?

I fiddled with using 802.11 vs nstream vs nv2, and I got that 90+Mbps
result on nstream.  The other modes seemed to be worse. I'd hate to
spend any more time fiddling if this is the expected outcome with this
product.



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Re: [AFMUG] a basic question

[Matt Corcoran]

On windows I used netsetman for while to switch between configurations, but the 
bigger issue was I could never get Windows to run DHCP and a static ip at the 
same time.If you don’t run DHCP and statics at the same time,  you can’t 
access the cpe while also having access to your network or VPN unless you 
manually choose the correct gateway.   On top of that, every WindowsOS after XP 
takes several extra seconds to report that the port is up,  which is just a 
pain when you first just want to verify that layer2 is working.   Supposedly 
you can turn off all the extra automatic network detection.

Then I switched to macos and linux.  On MacOS I just add another instance of 
the Ethernet port with one set to DHCP and the other set with my statics.   
There is a built in location manager that lets you save and switch between 
network configurations but I a rarely need to use it. I have an “installer” 
location  and an “Automatic” configuration. Can definitely be done on linux 
as well.

but now days, I just run NAT on a unifi, add the extra static addresses there, 
then connect to it via wifi.  (installed in a box with battery pack)


From: AF  on behalf of "ch...@wbmfg.com" 

Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 12:20 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] a basic question

Yeah... screw that... I will just recreate all my scripts.

From: Jaime Solorza
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 9:52 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] a basic question

Multiple NICs

On Wed, Aug 26, 2020, 9:42 AM Craig Baird  wrote:
Multiple NICs? Maybe get a USB ethernet dongle for the laptop. Also, if you can 
access your internal networks via WiFi, that would fix that issue. Of course, 
this all assumes that your various IP subnets don't conflict or overlap in any 
way.

Craig


On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 9:35 AM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]  
wrote:
We use a program called NetSetMan.  It’s inexpensive for commercial use.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
http://www.brazoswifi.com

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 10:25 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] a basic question

I feel silly asking this but I honestly don’t know if there is a better way.
Willing to risk the embarrassment of a simple answer.

Frequently plugging a laptop into a management port or something.  192.168.1.1  
So I need to set the laptop IP manually to 192.168.1.11 or some such thing.
Then I find I immediately need to connect to some DHCP device and right back to 
the management port.  And then to perhaps check email I need to go to a 
10.x.x.x or a 172 subnet internally.

Once upon a time I wrote some scripts and associated them with icons to 
reconfig the ethernet IPV4 settings to various things I need to access from 
time to time.
Is there a better way where I will never have to change configs?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT odd data connection

[Matt Corcoran]

Not quite related,  but I just found out that Microtik(linux) has built in 
drivers for common Arduino serial chips.  I setup an Arduino to monitor 4 
different voltages at our solar site.  Our NMS just SSHs to the 
microtik(special login) to pull the average voltages and graph them.I was 
happy to not add any more equipment other than the power sipping Arduino.



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From: AF  on behalf of dave 
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 at 4:19 PM
To: "af@af.afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT odd data connection

Ive done alot with Modbus on arduino products interfacing with anything that 
speaks modbus.
I have a server I que or add each thing I want to monitor or review.
Temps, Humidity power levels or presence of are the main ones.


[cid:image002.jpg@01D67661.4C1DE060]
On 8/19/20 11:26 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
On one of my large portable air compressors, there is a data port.  They sell 
an adapter cable for about $200  It adapts it to USB.  The program that you use 
to talk to it makes reference to modbus.

The data port has 4 pins.  RJ-10 4p4c connector.
+5 with enough current to light an incandescent light bulb.
+5 low current
+5 low current
Ground

This sounds like USB host to me.  One of my sons think it is RS-485

I don’t think USB would be happy on a RJ-10 and utp wire.  Maybe it would.  
Maybe I am just buying a piece of wire with two connectors on the ends.

The controller it plugs into is $2000 so I don’t want to experiment on that.  
Be interesting to see the adapter cable when it gets here.  See if there are 
any active components.  I would have probably just wired it up to a USB and 
tried it if my son had not made the modbus/RS485 comment.

Any guesses?




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Re: [AFMUG] no, metal strip in mask is not 5G antenna to kill you

[Matt Corcoran]

I think my customers would be more concerned with:


Does the metal strip attract lightning?




From: AF  on behalf of Mathew Howard 

Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 11:42 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] no, metal strip in mask is not 5G antenna to kill you

Lies! it's obviously only safe to wear masks without metal strips...

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 8:40 AM Ken Hohhof 
mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-metal-strip-medical-masks-5/fact-check-metal-strip-in-medical-masks-is-not-a-5g-antenna-idUSKBN24A2O1



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Re: [AFMUG] CBRS reliable now?

[Matt Corcoran]

From: AF  on behalf of Mark Radabaugh 
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 11:12 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CBRS reliable now?

It will be interesting to see what happens.

There has been a lot of discussion within WinnForum over coordination in GAA, 
and there is little consensus even in WinnForum over how GAA should be managed. 
  Lots of camps.   Some of the SAS operators feel they are responsible for 
efficient use of GAA spectrum (which the FCC said) but the FCC also, in the 
same report and order, said that it’s ‘like unlicensed’ and it’s up to the 
operators to work out.

The compromise is the idea of ’single frequency groups’ where you can match 
timing settings, the idea being to avoid assigning the same or overlapping 
frequencies to operators on different timing schemes.  Unfortunately support 
for this varies between SAS’s, and last I saw Google was doing very little to 
even check what was already in use before accepting a GAA request.   Federated 
does a little more, and I don’t know where the rest of the SAS’s are.

For better or worse - I’m willing to bet the Cambium gear suffers far less from 
the noise than the LTE gear.   It’s going to suck for everyone when there is 
contention.   It will be interesting to see if the telco’s give up first or 
just keep blasting away.

Mark


On May 21, 2020, at 8:59 AM, dave 
mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote:

Well SNR goes  to crap on every sub where you and the celco overlap.
So none of the spectrum they are on can be used. Which is aproximately 3550-3640
we found 2 panels facing our direction side by side look like using 40mhz x2



On 5/20/20 1:12 PM, Peter Kranz via AF wrote:
Hi Dave, can you expand on this:

“We are seeing a celco fire up some of its gear though almost like a wall block 
into the metro portion of our coverage."

I’m San Francisco, so totally metro.. what is the impact of the celco firing up 
its gear on you?

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com

From: AF  On Behalf Of 
dave
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 7:32 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CBRS reliable now?

I am fully deployed with about 800 subs and 40 Aps with pmp450/450i/450m.
I have seen some great numbers since moving to CBRS with total confidence with 
google.
Loving the new move to 30Mhz channels and 20mhz sizes.
We are seeing a celco fire up some of its gear though almost like a wall block 
into the metro portion of our coverage.









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Re: [AFMUG] google earth printing and grouping

[Matt Corcoran]

The skyview is the bottom layer,  so if you create an opaque polygon overtop of 
the entire area and set it to the bottom layer you will only see roads/names 
and your pins/polygons.

Matt

From: AF  on behalf of Steve Jones 

Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Monday, November 18, 2019 at 12:55 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] google earth printing and grouping

this is what we did then took a paper cleaver to tape it together manually.
turns out GE is not god for this project, we needed the roads and not the 
terrain
I cant find any way to get GE to just do the roads and not satellite imagery
We exported to Google Maps, which does it nice (labels dont show)
even lets me do a square lasso, but doesnt let me do anything with multiples


On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:30 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> 
wrote:
I have made some really large high res images from GE but it was not easy.

  *   You to make sure you have the tilt set so you are looking straight down.
  *   Make sure you have a zoom that will work to stitch together all the 
images.
  *   Zoom too much and you have too many images to stitch.
  *   Zoom out too far you you lose the detail you want.
  *   Check all the resolution and other options in the “Save Image” feature of 
GE.
  *   Save the image and note some landmark.
  *   Use the arrow buttons to move things around keeping the landmark still in 
view on the edge.
  *   Save the next and pick a new landmark etc etc.
  *   Make sure there is decent overlap in each image using landmarks.
  *   Then use the image composite editor to stitch them all together.

Took me quite a bit of bit of trial and error to get the individual images 
overlapping and such that ICE could stitch them.
If  you touch the zoom or tilt, you will have to start over.  If you change 
resolutions you will have to start over.
Also there are a couple of options in ICE you need to choose.
Don’t recall what they are at the moment but seems like “scan” was one of them. 
 It flattens the perspective I belive.

From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 9:20 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] google earth printing and grouping


IMO Google Earth is super weird about things like this.

In the current version you can ctrl+click to select multiple objects in the 
left hand pane.but for many years you would have had to move one point to a 
folder at a time.   They added a circle tool at some point, but that's another 
one that was inexplicably missing for years.

You still can't make multiple selections from the map view.  Not by ctrl+click 
or shift+click and not by dragging a box around objects.

It's possibly the most convenient tool for viewing GIS data (within it's 
performance limits), but it's awkward at manipulating or creating it.

-Adam


On 11/18/2019 11:06 AM, Louis Arsenault wrote:
Create a folder for each region.
Put all your pins for that region in the folder.
Right click on the folder and select properties.
Select Style, Color tab.
Under Icon select the the Color you want and it will change all pins to that 
color.


On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 8:58 PM Steve Jones  wrote:
manually or is there a lasso tool im missing?

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 4:23 PM Cameron Crum  wrote:
You can select the ones you want in a group and change their color. That would 
be a simple way to do it.

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019, 4:14 PM Steve Jones  wrote:
we ended up going to the zoom level we want and drawing a grid. saved an image 
of each grid and are trimming the 30 page prints to tape back together for a 
paper map.
would still like to group

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 4:08 PM Cameron Crum  wrote:
I can probably help you with it next week.

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019, 2:32 PM Steve Jones  wrote:
we have 150 customers to swap out, we have them in GE and are trying to get the 
schedule organized, we want to do them geographically. Is there a way to
A. print google earth map with the pins(and labels), even if its a bunch of 
pages taped together
B regionate and group the pins in each region

I assume if we had a right proper GIS this would be a snap, but im lost.




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Re: [AFMUG] the Internet ate my homework

[Matt Corcoran]

“My computer crashed”


From: AF  on behalf of dave via AF 
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Friday, October 11, 2019 at 8:55 AM
To: "af@af.afmug.com" 
Cc: dave 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the Internet ate my homework

LOL +1000 Likes

[cid:image001.jpg@01D58018.D548B4E0]
On 10/10/19 8:31 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:





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Re: [AFMUG] email client

[Matt Corcoran]

Apple Mail work fine for gmail on desktop, laptop and iphone.   It connects via 
IMAP (NOT POP!).   So I can use webmail and google stuff when I want, but most 
of the time I access via Apple Mail.

My email client needs to load instantly and be searchable whether I am online, 
NOT online, or on a crappy hotspot.So I need a cashed client.   It works 
fine with office365 as well, but that came with outlook anyway which also has 
good offline/caching mode and searchability.




From: AF  on behalf of Ken Hohhof 
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 8:38 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] email client

I assume Appleheads will use Apple Mail.

From: AF  On Behalf Of Mike Meluskey
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 3:41 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] email client


for my Apple MacBook I use MailMate
https://freron.com/


On 17 Sep 2019, at 21:52, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Do any of you have an email client you recommend to people who don’t buy 
Outlook?  I checked out the Mail app in Windows 10, and IMHO, it really sucks, 
I wouldn’t recommend it to anybody.

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Re: [AFMUG] MTU settings on CFIP Lumina FODU - v2.71.07

[Matt Corcoran]

Careful!  While the Lumina does support Jumbo and baby Jumbo frames, it only 
supports them when the interface is running in 1000BaseT.   If your Ethernet or 
fiber switches to 100BaseT for any reason the MTU limit is around 1514.So 
if you use Jumbo frames,  you have to lock the interface to 1000baseT 
negotiation or else a minor cable problem can cause a major MTU mismatch issue.




On 9/9/19, 11:11 PM, "AF on behalf of George Skorup"  wrote:

I'm logged into a Lumina and don't see anything special. I don't think
there are any settings, because it's just a managed switch with a
stated max frame size.

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 9:34 PM Paul McCall  wrote:
>
> Natively, without  any settings?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of George Skorup
> Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 10:32 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MTU settings on CFIP Lumina FODU - v2.71.07
>
> I believe the Lumina supports 9600-byte jumbo frames.
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 8:55 PM Paul McCall  wrote:
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> > We have some SAF CFIP Lumina FODU - v2.71.07 that I am wanting to 
verify the MTU settings on.  Looking to make sure that the MTU is 2000 or 
better.
> >
> >
> >
> > Not seeing an option for it in the firmware.  I know this is probably 
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> >
> >
> >
> > Anybody have insight as to their MTU settings?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Email Etiquette

[Matt Corcoran]

You think writing Etiquette is bad.   How about reading Etiquette. I find 
when you send a clean point by point list via email.  Half the time people only 
respond to the first point and dump the rest.

Some people think email is just another way to text.


From: AF  on behalf of Lewis Bergman 

Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Monday, July 1, 2019 at 10:45 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Email Etiquette

It's funny. Many people are hyper sensative about privacy, but when their 
internet breaks, they believe you should be able to read their minds, know 
everything about their issue, and be able to devine anything else that might 
have happened in or around their property that might have caused the issue.

I also find the older people get, the less they seem to remember that whoever 
they are communicting with, no matter the method, may not have any context for 
the conversation. Many times, the conversation they were having was in their 
own head.

Before my father died I remember an email he sent to a model airplane supplier 
he purchased a lot of product from. It basically went something like this:
"I got this order in late and some stuff was missing and another thing was 
broken. Can you make this right? Thanks". He probably ordered 5 times a month 
from this company. There is no way they could have been anything but confused.

My dad was well spoken and intelligent and wrote email like he was a drunken 
toddler.

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 8:50 AM Bill Prince 
mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I think there are a couple of issues. First, people who attempt to use
email on their phone with some crappy email interface can barely
actually send the email, let alone leave any identifiable information.

Second is people who are not even slightly technical who just don't know
how to use email. E.g.: We have a neighbor with whom we share a private
road. He will dig up an email string from 3 years ago and "reply all",
even though the subject line is 3 years old and has nothing to do with
what he's talking about today.

IOW, I don't think it's so much etiquette as it is ignorance.


bp


On 7/1/2019 4:08 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
> So I've noticed a slide recently of what I would consider 'Email
> Etiquette'  Customers send an email with no subject line.  Or reply to
> an old email, with a new topic.  EG: our billing system sends out
> automated invoices.  A customer will just reply to one of those
> emails, weeks later, with a service issue.  Doesn't bother to change
> the subject line or anything.  Another common email is just an email
> with the text "my internet is down"  No name/address/phone, anything
> else identifiable.  sometimes the email they use is in our system and
> we can find it that way, other times not.
>
> At some point I must have learned how to use email, I'm guessing
> people no longer learn that.
>
> And don't get me started on the people that text the main office
> number.  I mean, we do get the SMS messages, but again, usually it's
> just a text like 'Internet is not working'  With nothing else to know
> who it is.
>

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Re: [AFMUG] Mandatory OT

[Matt Corcoran]

With a 4 day work week, It sounds ‘especially reasonable’ to ask them to work 
on a ‘Friday’ with short notice. (written in the work contract)
Then an occasional Saturday is understandable, in which case you would have 
seen that coming and already given a few days advance notice that it may be 
necessary.
If you need them to work on a Sunday, you screwed up and need to apologize to 
your client.(network breakdowns are an exception.)

From: AF  on behalf of "ch...@wbmfg.com" 

Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Friday, June 7, 2019 at 12:15 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mandatory OT

The notice is the thing.  We work 4 x 10 hour days but if we are behind it is 
common to ask them to come in on Friday.  So we are not really giving them much 
notice at all.

From: Joshua Samuels
Sent: Friday, June 7, 2019 10:13 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mandatory OT

I'd give extra bonuses to the ones that actually showed up as required. 
Reiterate that mandatory OT is required per job hiring/employee handbook. Make 
everyone sign a note/policy moving forward.

Also make sure you give them sufficient notice if possible in the future moving 
forward so they have no excuse...at least 48 - 36 hours.

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019, 12:06 PM  wrote:
I think we will put this verbiage in the employee handbook.

From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, June 7, 2019 9:43 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mandatory OT

Maybe a company-wide e-mail reaffirming that you occasionally have OT to meet 
production demands? Full staff is expected on those days to meet deadlines, but 
that you understand that there may be prior obligations that can't be mitigated 
on a short notice. Accurately stating that you can't come in due to prior 
obligations is highly appreciated. Continual inability to meet emergency OT 
requirements may result in disciplinary action. Abuse of the prior obligation 
caveat may result in disciplinary action.


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From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Sent: Friday, June 7, 2019 10:37:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mandatory OT
Not sure.  As tight as the job market is I would be reluctant to let them go.  
But normally I would let them go.  Service industries have mandatory OT at 
times.  It was made known to them at the time of hire.

If they were told the day before that the next day is OT, that is the time for 
them to say they have something planned.  But faking sick (if indeed they are 
faking) is not going to work for me.  Just not sure what the proper response 
should be so for now I am just grumbling to you guys.

From: Carl Peterson
Sent: Friday, June 7, 2019 9:30 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mandatory OT

What if rather then calling in sick they just told you no?  Would you prefer 
that?

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 10:26 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
Some people have a second job or classes.  Or a tightly choreographed schedule 
around a working spouse and childcare.  Occasionally it’s a religious issue 
about working certain days.

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, June 7, 2019 10:19 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Mandatory OT

We had a situation where we needed everyone to show up on an off day to push 
through a project.  Mandatory OT.

Half the crew called in sick.  These young folks want more money, here I am 
offering them 10 hours of time and a half, and they would rather try to 
convince me they are on death’s door?

Not sure where to draw the line.  If they are truly sick, OK fine, sorry, hope 
you feel better soon.
Grumble
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Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

[Matt Corcoran]

I have about 20+ of the smaller yagi’s new in box. 900mz.   Make an offer.


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From: AF  on behalf of David Hannum 

Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Monday, April 29, 2019 at 4:15 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

We used to use the little short 11dBi yagi's instead of the stingers.  Small 
profile - much better penetration . . . .

Dave H.

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 3:50 PM Adam Moffett 
mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
What about the second hand market?  Somebody like SWG might have them.  
swginc.com<http://swginc.com>
Relay Networks is another one.
I'm sure there are others.

On 4/29/2019 3:42 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
does anyone know where i can get a 900mhz HPOL stinger or super stinger? i 
can't find any vendor that stocks them anymore



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Re: [AFMUG] Customer signal issues: UBNT versus KP Performance 2.4 omni's

[Matt Corcoran]

The omni radiation patterns are not perfectly round.Maybe the Ubiquiti 
antenna was pointed optimally at them while the  new antenna is not, or is 
better rounded.
Also the gain varies within the frequency range.  Old antenna might have been 
target more towards wifi,  while the other might be targeted more for 
2.5/2.6ghz BRS/EBS LTE.

Both should have graphs so you can see the differences.

Matt


From: AF  on behalf of Jay Weekley 

Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Friday, April 26, 2019 at 12:12 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Customer signal issues: UBNT versus KP Performance 2.4 omni's


After a storm we noticed that customer signal levels dropped a lot on a 2.4 GHz 
omni. Especially the received signals on the AP. Water had gotten in so we 
replaced the omni, radio and the connectors and the signal levels were better 
but didn't return to their original levels and are still about 5 db lower than 
they were before the storm. The original omni was a Ubiquiti AMO-2G13 and was 
replaced with a 13 dBi KPPA-2GHZ-DPOMA-WC-2.

The Ubiquiti antenna has 2 degrees of downtilt versus 1 with the KP Performance 
antenna. Would this be enough difference to cause the problem? What else could 
it be?

Here are the antenna data sheets:
KP Performance antenna.
https://streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/amo_ds_20170106.pdf

Ubiquiti antenna
https://www.streakwave.com/…/KPPA-2GHZ-DPOMA-WC-2_datasheet…
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Re: [AFMUG] Airspan GPS epoch

[Matt Corcoran]

I’d be ok with 20 years.   Considering its only 5 years old, I guess they only 
expected it to last 5 years.  It’s not even a hardware problem which simply 
provides sync. It’s the license verification software.

The basestation thinks its  Aug,26 2099It thinks someone is running 
Wimax in 2099!   That must be the year they expect CBRS to be available.



From: AF  on behalf of Bill Prince 

Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 11:33 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Airspan GPS epoch


Are you saying we can't expect equipment to last more than 20 years (or 19.69 
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On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 8:28 AM Mike Hammett 
mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
GPS date rolls every 1024 weeks.


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From: "Bill Prince" mailto:part15...@gmail.com>>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 10:24:20 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Airspan GPS epoch

Is the EPOCH thing a bug or a feature? It is built into the system, and you 
would expect stations to have a plan to deal with it.

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On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 6:31 AM Ken Hohhof 
mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
Yeah, even Cisco, which is one of the most obnoxious companies about 
maintenance contracts to get software updates, will often give you a free 
update in the case of a major bug.

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 8:21 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Airspan GPS epoch

GPS can be tricky like that.

Sucks that Airspan won't just give you newer firmware.


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From: "Matt Corcoran" mailto:m...@stratospeed.com>>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:24:22 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Airspan GPS epoch
Our Airspan gear is failing permanently upon reboot due to the GPS epoch 
causing a wrong date in the basestation which invalidates the operation license 
certificate on bootup. Airspan wants us to pay for a firmware update to fix 
the problem.   Our firmware is 4 years old.Does anyone have any Airspan 
gear that is still working running with a more recent firmware?  I don’t 
want to pay for a support agreement just to find they can’t fix it again.



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Re: [AFMUG] DC/DC converter question

[Matt Corcoran]

I am accustom to:  

Red +48
Black GND
White -48

But you can never trust installations to be correct.


I propose a new standard.
+V   purple/grey stripe
gnd   yellow pokadot



On 4/10/19, 4:18 PM, "AF on behalf of Ken Hohhof"  wrote:

I have a couple sites where I used purple or blue for -48, but I have spools
of red/black zipcord that I use a lot, and I assign red to voltage
independent of polarity, so that black is ground.  Then even if I use single
wires, I make red voltage and black return in order to be consistent.

I think it would be even more confusing to have red be ground and black
be-48V.  Especially at mixed voltage sites that also have +24V.


-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 3:08 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC/DC converter question

Some people use red for negative on -48V systems.
I've got a -48V Alvarion Wimax thingamabob with a red and black pigtail
coming out the back and the red is clearly labeled negative.

So yeah, can't go by color unless you put that color there.


On 4/8/2019 3:31 PM, Christopher Tyler wrote:
> Turns out the whole shelter's bus was wired backwards when we got it. Red
is negative and black is positive. Not sure what the ground is relative to,
not sure it really matters at this point but I'll check that out when I go
out there later myself.
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[AFMUG] Airspan GPS epoch

[Matt Corcoran]

Our Airspan gear is failing permanently upon reboot due to the GPS epoch 
causing a wrong date in the basestation which invalidates the operation license 
certificate on bootup. Airspan wants us to pay for a firmware update to fix 
the problem.   Our firmware is 4 years old.Does anyone have any Airspan 
gear that is still working running with a more recent firmware?  I don’t 
want to pay for a support agreement just to find they can’t fix it again.



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Re: [AFMUG] Indoor HDTV Antenna

[Matt Corcoran]

If that’s an amplified antenna that might be the problem.  When channels 
went to digital,  something about my old amplifier was not compatible.   I 
bypassed the amplifier, then my outdoor antenna worked great again. I also 
had a Radio Shack indoor antenna just like that but couldn’t get more than 1 
digital channel so I tossed it out.   I got better results with a bare bones 
rabbit ears with digital.


From: AF  on behalf of Nate Burke 
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 6:53 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] Indoor HDTV Antenna

I'm looking to get an indoor HDTV Antenna.  Any better or worse than others?  
Chicago Transmitters are about 35 miles away over lake Michigan (Antenna will 
be used in Indiana).  It looks like on Amazon they're listed by mile range, is 
that accurate?  Do amplified antennas really work better, or is it just a 
gimmick?  I'm using an ancient radio shack antenna now that has a hoop and 
rabbit ears and an unmarked dial of some purpose.  I can pickup about 3 
channels out of Chicago if it's set at just the right place, and you stand on 
one leg, with one arm extended.
[adioShack   UHF/VHF/FM Amplified Indoor Antenna Cat. No. 15-1838]

Would a new antenna do any better than this one?

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[AFMUG] Wind Farm Experiences

[Matt Corcoran]

A township within our wireless coverage area is in the public 
hearing/permitting/approval stage for the construction of a new large windfarm.

What are your experiences providing service in the vicinity of Wind farms?
Source of Problems?  Opportunity? I am currently checking to see if it will 
interfere with any of our ptp links.   I’m unsure if reflections off these big 
monopoles will cause any problems.   Naturally, tall hills are an asset to the 
wind farms and Wisps alike.   Has anyone ever used a wind turbine monopole as a 
transmit location?.


Matt Corcoran
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Stratos Networks

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