Re: [AFMUG] No escape!!

[Adam Moffett]

That is literally the funniest graffiti I've ever seen.

On 8/29/2019 9:27 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Lol



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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment

[Mike Hammett]

Yes, 60 GHz is unlicensed. 




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Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 10:34:41 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. 
for New Equipment 




Is this unlicensed? 




From: Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:16 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. 
for New Equipment 



Test reports shows you the light baby! WiGig chipset FTW! 

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Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. 
for New Equipment 



I am not going to comment on new products, but I will remind everyone that we 
came from Motorola, not Cambium! 



On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 9:22 AM Colin Stanners < cstann...@gmail.com > wrote: 




Unfortunately the AirFiber 60 FCC submission does not urrently include the user 
guide, so there's many things that are still unknown about it, but some notes 
from my quick view: 



-The Ubiquiti Early Access store lists it for $300. At that low price I'd be 
quite surprised if it was based on FPGA or Ubnt's proprietay silicon - it's 
likely Wi-Fi chipset based. This would be the first member of the AirFiber 
family that is Wi-Fi chipset based, in which case I'd have questions about its 
performance, especially in number of PPS, and software stability. (Currently 
the AirFiber line is what I consider Ubiquiti's best products - kind of 
expected since the ex-Cambium team was involved). 



-I'm surprised of the manufacturers (Ubnt and MT) that use a grid dish at 
60Ghz; at that wavelengthand considering their experience in using solid 
dishes, I would think it would be easier and cheaper to use a solid dish. 






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Subject: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New 
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FCC ID Application Processed For Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment. 
FCC ID SWX-AF60 
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[AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment

[Colin Stanners]

Unfortunately the AirFiber 60 FCC submission does not urrently include the
user guide, so there's many things that are still unknown about it, but
some notes from my quick view:

-The Ubiquiti Early Access store lists it for $300. At that low price I'd
be quite surprised if it was based on FPGA or Ubnt's proprietay silicon -
it's likely Wi-Fi chipset based. This would be the first member of the
AirFiber family that is Wi-Fi chipset based, in which case I'd have
questions about its performance, especially in number of PPS, and software
stability. (Currently the AirFiber line is what I consider Ubiquiti's best
products - kind of expected since the ex-Cambium team was involved).

-I'm surprised of the manufacturers (Ubnt and MT) that use a grid dish at
60Ghz; at that wavelengthand considering their experience in using solid
dishes, I would think it would be easier and cheaper to use a solid dish.


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Date: Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 8:38 AM
Subject: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New
Equipment
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FCC ID Application Processed For Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment.
FCC ID SWX-AF60

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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment

[Mike Hammett]

The new band goes all the way up to 71 GHz. 




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- Original Message -

From: "Mathew Howard"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 10:25:43 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. 
for New Equipment 



Yeah, I know. Ignitenet has been saying for months that they'll have channel 5 
available any day... I'm assuming they're just waiting for the FCC. 



The MikroTik radios are already capable of going up to 66ghz, but they haven't 
been certified yet, as far as I know. 



On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 10:09 AM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Only Siklu and Ceragon have anything certified beyond 64.8 GHz. Ceragon only 
goes to 65.975 GHz and Siklu only goes to 69.875 GHz. 




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From: "Mathew Howard" < mhoward...@gmail.com > 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > 
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:53:45 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. 
for New Equipment 



I would be surprised if it's not just 802.11ad based (which does make it odd 
that they put the airFiber name on it). I suspect that it's pretty much the 
same radio as the other 60ghz radios they were making (which seem to have 
completely disappeared from their website now...), just with a dish attached to 
it. 



It's interesting to note that it only goes up to 64.8ghz, which seems odd for a 
new product, considering everybody's been screaming at the other 60ghz 
manufacturers to hurry up and get their products updated for the higher 
channels... I guess that could just be the FCC dragging their feet on getting 
certifications through for that part of the band though. 



On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 9:40 AM Adam Moffett < dmmoff...@gmail.com > wrote: 


Remember Motorola used to sell Canopy with an FPGA and custom silicon 
for $220 in bulk packs. $300 isn't crazy.but you're right to keep 
an eye on it. 

-Adam 


On 8/30/2019 10:21 AM, Colin Stanners wrote: 
> 
> -The Ubiquiti Early Access store lists it for $300. At that low price 
> I'd be quite surprised if it was based on FPGA or Ubnt's proprietay 
> silicon - it's likely Wi-Fi chipset based. This would be the first 
> member of the AirFiber family that is Wi-Fi chipset based, in which 
> case I'd have questions about its performance, especially in number of 
> PPS, and software stability. (Currently the AirFiber line is what I 
> consider Ubiquiti's best products - kind of expected since the 
> ex-Cambium team was involved). 
> 
> -I'm surprised of the manufacturers (Ubnt and MT) that use a grid dish 
> at 60Ghz; at that wavelengthand considering their experience in using 
> solid dishes, I would think it would be easier and cheaper to use a 
> solid dish. 


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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment

[Mathew Howard]

Well, that confirms what we already thought... but the real question is, is
it 802.11ad or 802.11ay based?

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 10:17 AM Gino A. Villarini 
wrote:

> Test reports shows you the light baby! WiGig chipset FTW!
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> *Gino*
> *Villarini *Founder/President
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> ch...@macenski.com>
> *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Date: *Friday, August 30, 2019 at 10:52 AM
> *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed :
> Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment
>
>
>
> I am not going to comment on new products, but I will remind everyone that
> we came from Motorola, not Cambium!
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 9:22 AM Colin Stanners 
> wrote:
>
> Unfortunately the AirFiber 60 FCC submission does not urrently include the
> user guide, so there's many things that are still unknown about it, but
> some notes from my quick view:
>
>
>
> -The Ubiquiti Early Access store lists it for $300. At that low price I'd
> be quite surprised if it was based on FPGA or Ubnt's proprietay silicon -
> it's likely Wi-Fi chipset based. This would be the first member of the
> AirFiber family that is Wi-Fi chipset based, in which case I'd have
> questions about its performance, especially in number of PPS, and software
> stability. (Currently the AirFiber line is what I consider Ubiquiti's best
> products - kind of expected since the ex-Cambium team was involved).
>
>
>
> -I'm surprised of the manufacturers (Ubnt and MT) that use a grid dish at
> 60Ghz; at that wavelengthand considering their experience in using solid
> dishes, I would think it would be easier and cheaper to use a solid dish.
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message -
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> Date: Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 8:38 AM
> Subject: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New
> Equipment
> To: 
>
>
>
> FCC ID Application Processed For Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment.
> FCC ID SWX-AF60
> 
> Equipment: airFiber 60
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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment

[castarritt .]

No, you need to wait for 802.11ow

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 10:49 AM  wrote:

> I wonder if you could amp one up and turn it into an “active denial”
> product...
>
> *From:* Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Friday, August 30, 2019 9:42 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed :
> Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment
>
> Yes, 60 GHz is unlicensed.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
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> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Friday, August 30, 2019 10:34:41 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed :
> Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment
>
> Is this unlicensed?
>
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Friday, August 30, 2019 9:16 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed :
> Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment
>
>
> Test reports shows you the light baby! WiGig chipset FTW!
>
>
>
> [image: A screenshot of a cell phone Description automatically generated]
>
>
>
> *Gino*
> *Villarini *Founder/President
> @gvillarini
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> *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Date: *Friday, August 30, 2019 at 10:52 AM
> *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed :
> Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment
>
>
>
> I am not going to comment on new products, but I will remind everyone that
> we came from Motorola, not Cambium!
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 9:22 AM Colin Stanners 
> wrote:
>
> Unfortunately the AirFiber 60 FCC submission does not urrently include the
> user guide, so there's many things that are still unknown about it, but
> some notes from my quick view:
>
>
>
> -The Ubiquiti Early Access store lists it for $300. At that low price I'd
> be quite surprised if it was based on FPGA or Ubnt's proprietay silicon -
> it's likely Wi-Fi chipset based. This would be the first member of the
> AirFiber family that is Wi-Fi chipset based, in which case I'd have
> questions about its performance, especially in number of PPS, and software
> stability. (Currently the AirFiber line is what I consider Ubiquiti's best
> products - kind of expected since the ex-Cambium team was involved).
>
>
>
> -I'm surprised of the manufacturers (Ubnt and MT) that use a grid dish at
> 60Ghz; at that wavelengthand considering their experience in using solid
> dishes, I would think it would be easier and cheaper to use a solid dish.
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message -
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> Date: Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 8:38 AM
> Subject: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New
> Equipment
> To: 
>
>
>
> FCC ID Application Processed For Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment.
> FCC ID SWX-AF60
> 
> Equipment: airFiber 60
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Re: [AFMUG] No escape!!

[Mathew Howard]

That is awesome!

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 7:15 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> That is literally the funniest graffiti I've ever seen.
>
> On 8/29/2019 9:27 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> Lol
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment

[Mike Hammett]

Only Siklu and Ceragon have anything certified beyond 64.8 GHz. Ceragon only 
goes to 65.975 GHz and Siklu only goes to 69.875 GHz. 




- 
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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Mathew Howard"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:53:45 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. 
for New Equipment 



I would be surprised if it's not just 802.11ad based (which does make it odd 
that they put the airFiber name on it). I suspect that it's pretty much the 
same radio as the other 60ghz radios they were making (which seem to have 
completely disappeared from their website now...), just with a dish attached to 
it. 



It's interesting to note that it only goes up to 64.8ghz, which seems odd for a 
new product, considering everybody's been screaming at the other 60ghz 
manufacturers to hurry up and get their products updated for the higher 
channels... I guess that could just be the FCC dragging their feet on getting 
certifications through for that part of the band though. 



On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 9:40 AM Adam Moffett < dmmoff...@gmail.com > wrote: 


Remember Motorola used to sell Canopy with an FPGA and custom silicon 
for $220 in bulk packs. $300 isn't crazy.but you're right to keep 
an eye on it. 

-Adam 


On 8/30/2019 10:21 AM, Colin Stanners wrote: 
> 
> -The Ubiquiti Early Access store lists it for $300. At that low price 
> I'd be quite surprised if it was based on FPGA or Ubnt's proprietay 
> silicon - it's likely Wi-Fi chipset based. This would be the first 
> member of the AirFiber family that is Wi-Fi chipset based, in which 
> case I'd have questions about its performance, especially in number of 
> PPS, and software stability. (Currently the AirFiber line is what I 
> consider Ubiquiti's best products - kind of expected since the 
> ex-Cambium team was involved). 
> 
> -I'm surprised of the manufacturers (Ubnt and MT) that use a grid dish 
> at 60Ghz; at that wavelengthand considering their experience in using 
> solid dishes, I would think it would be easier and cheaper to use a 
> solid dish. 


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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment

[Gino A. Villarini]

Test reports shows you the light baby! WiGig chipset FTW!

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Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Friday, August 30, 2019 at 10:52 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. 
for New Equipment

I am not going to comment on new products, but I will remind everyone that we 
came from Motorola, not Cambium!

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 9:22 AM Colin Stanners 
mailto:cstann...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Unfortunately the AirFiber 60 FCC submission does not urrently include the user 
guide, so there's many things that are still unknown about it, but some notes 
from my quick view:

-The Ubiquiti Early Access store lists it for $300. At that low price I'd be 
quite surprised if it was based on FPGA or Ubnt's proprietay silicon - it's 
likely Wi-Fi chipset based. This would be the first member of the AirFiber 
family that is Wi-Fi chipset based, in which case I'd have questions about its 
performance, especially in number of PPS, and software stability. (Currently 
the AirFiber line is what I consider Ubiquiti's best products - kind of 
expected since the ex-Cambium team was involved).

-I'm surprised of the manufacturers (Ubnt and MT) that use a grid dish at 
60Ghz; at that wavelengthand considering their experience in using solid 
dishes, I would think it would be easier and cheaper to use a solid dish.


-- Forwarded message -
From: FCC ID Alert mailto:ale...@fccid.io>>
Date: Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 8:38 AM
Subject: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment
To: mailto:cstann...@gmail.com>>


FCC ID Application Processed For Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment.
FCC ID 
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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment

[Chuck Macenski]

I am not going to comment on new products, but I will remind everyone that
we came from Motorola, not Cambium!

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 9:22 AM Colin Stanners  wrote:

> Unfortunately the AirFiber 60 FCC submission does not urrently include the
> user guide, so there's many things that are still unknown about it, but
> some notes from my quick view:
>
> -The Ubiquiti Early Access store lists it for $300. At that low price I'd
> be quite surprised if it was based on FPGA or Ubnt's proprietay silicon -
> it's likely Wi-Fi chipset based. This would be the first member of the
> AirFiber family that is Wi-Fi chipset based, in which case I'd have
> questions about its performance, especially in number of PPS, and software
> stability. (Currently the AirFiber line is what I consider Ubiquiti's best
> products - kind of expected since the ex-Cambium team was involved).
>
> -I'm surprised of the manufacturers (Ubnt and MT) that use a grid dish at
> 60Ghz; at that wavelengthand considering their experience in using solid
> dishes, I would think it would be easier and cheaper to use a solid dish.
>
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: FCC ID Alert 
> Date: Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 8:38 AM
> Subject: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New
> Equipment
> To: 
>
>
> FCC ID Application Processed For Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment.
> FCC ID SWX-AF60
> 
> Equipment: airFiber 60
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Re: [AFMUG] Using Surge Suppressors at CPE? Who does it?

[dave via AF]

The Bottom line is if its too difficult to ground an SS outdoors at the 
bare minimal place an inline protector at the router.
We do all of the above where it makes sense to otherwise inline is where 
its at.

They have saved us tons of routers from being blown.


On 8/29/19 1:43 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:
We install a one at the entry on every 450 install.  End up grounding 
to a hose bib or conduit into the ground at the back of the house half 
the time.  Service grounds in the city are generally long gone/built 
over and impossible to find.



On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 12:06 PM Sam Lambie > wrote:


I am wondering how many of you install either a Cambium SS,
McCowntech SS or Ubiquiti SS at a customers house.
We have been doing it since day one by placing inside at the
antenna cable ingress location. Makes for a great coupler to
change the cable from outdoor to indoor as well.
Since Cambiums SS's have gotten stupidly pricey, we have switched
to Ubiquiti, but they suck to mount cleanly and quickly. And to be
honest, Mccowntech are expensive as well.
My question is this, who thinks it's worth it to do every home all
the time?

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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment

[Mathew Howard]

Yeah, I know. Ignitenet has been saying for months that they'll have
channel 5 available any day... I'm assuming they're just waiting for the
FCC.

The MikroTik radios are already capable of going up to 66ghz, but they
haven't been certified yet, as far as I know.

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 10:09 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Only Siklu and Ceragon have anything certified beyond 64.8 GHz. Ceragon
> only goes to 65.975 GHz and Siklu only goes to 69.875 GHz.
>
>
>
> -
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> 
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> 
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> 
> 
> 
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> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Friday, August 30, 2019 9:53:45 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed :
> Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment
>
> I would be surprised if it's not just 802.11ad based (which does make it
> odd that they put the airFiber name on it). I suspect that it's pretty much
> the same radio as the other 60ghz radios they were making (which seem to
> have completely disappeared from their website now...), just with a dish
> attached to it.
>
> It's interesting to note that it only goes up to 64.8ghz, which seems odd
> for a new product, considering everybody's been screaming at the other
> 60ghz manufacturers to hurry up and get their products updated for the
> higher channels... I guess that could just be the FCC dragging their feet
> on getting certifications through for that part of the band though.
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 9:40 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> Remember Motorola used to sell Canopy with an FPGA and custom silicon
>> for $220 in bulk packs.  $300 isn't crazy.but you're right to keep
>> an eye on it.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>>
>> On 8/30/2019 10:21 AM, Colin Stanners wrote:
>> >
>> > -The Ubiquiti Early Access store lists it for $300. At that low price
>> > I'd be quite surprised if it was based on FPGA or Ubnt's proprietay
>> > silicon - it's likely Wi-Fi chipset based. This would be the first
>> > member of the AirFiber family that is Wi-Fi chipset based, in which
>> > case I'd have questions about its performance, especially in number of
>> > PPS, and software stability. (Currently the AirFiber line is what I
>> > consider Ubiquiti's best products - kind of expected since the
>> > ex-Cambium team was involved).
>> >
>> > -I'm surprised of the manufacturers (Ubnt and MT) that use a grid dish
>> > at 60Ghz; at that wavelengthand considering their experience in using
>> > solid dishes, I would think it would be easier and cheaper to use a
>> > solid dish.
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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment

[chuck]

Is this unlicensed?

From: Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:16 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. 
for New Equipment

Test reports shows you the light baby! WiGig chipset FTW! 

 



 

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From: AF  on behalf of Chuck Macenski 

Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Friday, August 30, 2019 at 10:52 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. 
for New Equipment

 

I am not going to comment on new products, but I will remind everyone that we 
came from Motorola, not Cambium! 

 

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 9:22 AM Colin Stanners  wrote:

  Unfortunately the AirFiber 60 FCC submission does not urrently include the 
user guide, so there's many things that are still unknown about it, but some 
notes from my quick view:

   

  -The Ubiquiti Early Access store lists it for $300. At that low price I'd be 
quite surprised if it was based on FPGA or Ubnt's proprietay silicon - it's 
likely Wi-Fi chipset based. This would be the first member of the AirFiber 
family that is Wi-Fi chipset based, in which case I'd have questions about its 
performance, especially in number of PPS, and software stability. (Currently 
the AirFiber line is what I consider Ubiquiti's best products - kind of 
expected since the ex-Cambium team was involved).

   

  -I'm surprised of the manufacturers (Ubnt and MT) that use a grid dish at 
60Ghz; at that wavelengthand considering their experience in using solid 
dishes, I would think it would be easier and cheaper to use a solid dish.

   

   

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  FCC ID Application Processed For Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment.
  FCC ID SWX-AF60 
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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment

[Colin Stanners]

The Cambium PMP450 SMs with FPGAs that still sell for around $230 are a bit
different - economies of scale when selling 1000 to 100 000 to a customers,
and 100mbit Ethernet only.

For the AF5X(HD), having the faster FPGA or proprietary chipset, Gigabit
performance etc, I don't think that Ubiquiti is making a big profit selling
the AF5XHD for under $400 USD. As such I can't imagine that they could sell
a smaller-market radio with higher performance / using hardware for a more
rare frequency, with an FPGA/proprietary chipset, for only $300.


On Fri, Aug 30, 2019, 9:40 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> Remember Motorola used to sell Canopy with an FPGA and custom silicon
> for $220 in bulk packs.  $300 isn't crazy.but you're right to keep
> an eye on it.
>
> -Adam
>
>
> On 8/30/2019 10:21 AM, Colin Stanners wrote:
> >
> > -The Ubiquiti Early Access store lists it for $300. At that low price
> > I'd be quite surprised if it was based on FPGA or Ubnt's proprietay
> > silicon - it's likely Wi-Fi chipset based. This would be the first
> > member of the AirFiber family that is Wi-Fi chipset based, in which
> > case I'd have questions about its performance, especially in number of
> > PPS, and software stability. (Currently the AirFiber line is what I
> > consider Ubiquiti's best products - kind of expected since the
> > ex-Cambium team was involved).
> >
> > -I'm surprised of the manufacturers (Ubnt and MT) that use a grid dish
> > at 60Ghz; at that wavelengthand considering their experience in using
> > solid dishes, I would think it would be easier and cheaper to use a
> > solid dish.
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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment

[Adam Moffett]

Remember Motorola used to sell Canopy with an FPGA and custom silicon 
for $220 in bulk packs.  $300 isn't crazy.but you're right to keep 
an eye on it.


-Adam


On 8/30/2019 10:21 AM, Colin Stanners wrote:


-The Ubiquiti Early Access store lists it for $300. At that low price 
I'd be quite surprised if it was based on FPGA or Ubnt's proprietay 
silicon - it's likely Wi-Fi chipset based. This would be the first 
member of the AirFiber family that is Wi-Fi chipset based, in which 
case I'd have questions about its performance, especially in number of 
PPS, and software stability. (Currently the AirFiber line is what I 
consider Ubiquiti's best products - kind of expected since the 
ex-Cambium team was involved).


-I'm surprised of the manufacturers (Ubnt and MT) that use a grid dish 
at 60Ghz; at that wavelengthand considering their experience in using 
solid dishes, I would think it would be easier and cheaper to use a 
solid dish.



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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment

[Mathew Howard]

I would be surprised if it's not just 802.11ad based (which does make it
odd that they put the airFiber name on it). I suspect that it's pretty much
the same radio as the other 60ghz radios they were making (which seem to
have completely disappeared from their website now...), just with a dish
attached to it.

It's interesting to note that it only goes up to 64.8ghz, which seems odd
for a new product, considering everybody's been screaming at the other
60ghz manufacturers to hurry up and get their products updated for the
higher channels... I guess that could just be the FCC dragging their feet
on getting certifications through for that part of the band though.

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 9:40 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> Remember Motorola used to sell Canopy with an FPGA and custom silicon
> for $220 in bulk packs.  $300 isn't crazy.but you're right to keep
> an eye on it.
>
> -Adam
>
>
> On 8/30/2019 10:21 AM, Colin Stanners wrote:
> >
> > -The Ubiquiti Early Access store lists it for $300. At that low price
> > I'd be quite surprised if it was based on FPGA or Ubnt's proprietay
> > silicon - it's likely Wi-Fi chipset based. This would be the first
> > member of the AirFiber family that is Wi-Fi chipset based, in which
> > case I'd have questions about its performance, especially in number of
> > PPS, and software stability. (Currently the AirFiber line is what I
> > consider Ubiquiti's best products - kind of expected since the
> > ex-Cambium team was involved).
> >
> > -I'm surprised of the manufacturers (Ubnt and MT) that use a grid dish
> > at 60Ghz; at that wavelengthand considering their experience in using
> > solid dishes, I would think it would be easier and cheaper to use a
> > solid dish.
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment

[Adam Moffett]

Why not?  As the authority on the topic yours is the voice I'd want to 
hear most of all.



On 8/30/2019 10:51 AM, Chuck Macenski wrote:
I am not going to comment on new products, but I will remind everyone 
that we came from Motorola, not Cambium!


On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 9:22 AM Colin Stanners > wrote:


Unfortunately the AirFiber 60 FCC submission does not urrently
include the user guide, so there's many things that are still
unknown about it, but some notes from my quick view:

-The Ubiquiti Early Access store lists it for $300. At that low
price I'd be quite surprised if it was based on FPGA or Ubnt's
proprietay silicon - it's likely Wi-Fi chipset based. This would
be the first member of the AirFiber family that is Wi-Fi chipset
based, in which case I'd have questions about its performance,
especially in number of PPS, and software stability. (Currently
the AirFiber line is what I consider Ubiquiti's best products -
kind of expected since the ex-Cambium team was involved).

-I'm surprised of the manufacturers (Ubnt and MT) that use a grid
dish at 60Ghz; at that wavelengthand considering their experience
in using solid dishes, I would think it would be easier and
cheaper to use a solid dish.


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Date: Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 8:38 AM
Subject: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for
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To: mailto:cstann...@gmail.com>>


FCC ID Application Processed For Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment.
FCC ID SWX-AF60



Equipment: airFiber 60

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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment

[Adam Moffett]

So is this definitely 802.11ad then?


On 8/30/2019 11:16 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:


Test reports shows you the light baby! WiGig chipset FTW!

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Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment


I am not going to comment on new products, but I will remind everyone 
that we came from Motorola, not Cambium!


On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 9:22 AM Colin Stanners > wrote:


Unfortunately the AirFiber 60 FCC submission does not urrently
include the user guide, so there's many things that are still
unknown about it, but some notes from my quick view:

-The Ubiquiti Early Access store lists it for $300. At that low
price I'd be quite surprised if it was based on FPGA or Ubnt's
proprietay silicon - it's likely Wi-Fi chipset based. This would
be the first member of the AirFiber family that is Wi-Fi chipset
based, in which case I'd have questions about its performance,
especially in number of PPS, and software stability. (Currently
the AirFiber line is what I consider Ubiquiti's best products -
kind of expected since the ex-Cambium team was involved).

-I'm surprised of the manufacturers (Ubnt and MT) that use a grid
dish at 60Ghz; at that wavelengthand considering their experience
in using solid dishes, I would think it would be easier and
cheaper to use a solid dish.

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Date: Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 8:38 AM
Subject: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for
New Equipment
To: mailto:cstann...@gmail.com>>



FCC ID Application Processed For Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment.
FCC ID SWX-AF60



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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment

[Mike Hammett]

There's nothing as consistent as Ubiquiti inconsistency. 




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- Original Message -

From: "Gino A. Villarini"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 10:16:55 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. 
for New Equipment 



Test reports shows you the light baby! WiGig chipset FTW! 

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From: AF  on behalf of Chuck Macenski 
 
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
Date: Friday, August 30, 2019 at 10:52 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. 
for New Equipment 



I am not going to comment on new products, but I will remind everyone that we 
came from Motorola, not Cambium! 



On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 9:22 AM Colin Stanners < cstann...@gmail.com > wrote: 




Unfortunately the AirFiber 60 FCC submission does not urrently include the user 
guide, so there's many things that are still unknown about it, but some notes 
from my quick view: 



-The Ubiquiti Early Access store lists it for $300. At that low price I'd be 
quite surprised if it was based on FPGA or Ubnt's proprietay silicon - it's 
likely Wi-Fi chipset based. This would be the first member of the AirFiber 
family that is Wi-Fi chipset based, in which case I'd have questions about its 
performance, especially in number of PPS, and software stability. (Currently 
the AirFiber line is what I consider Ubiquiti's best products - kind of 
expected since the ex-Cambium team was involved). 



-I'm surprised of the manufacturers (Ubnt and MT) that use a grid dish at 
60Ghz; at that wavelengthand considering their experience in using solid 
dishes, I would think it would be easier and cheaper to use a solid dish. 






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Subject: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New 
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FCC ID Application Processed For Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment. 
FCC ID SWX-AF60 
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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment

[chuck]

I wonder if you could amp one up and turn it into an “active denial” product...

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:42 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. 
for New Equipment

Yes, 60 GHz is unlicensed.




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From: ch...@wbmfg.com
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Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 10:34:41 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. 
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Is this unlicensed?

From: Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:16 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. 
for New Equipment

Test reports shows you the light baby! WiGig chipset FTW! 







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Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Friday, August 30, 2019 at 10:52 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. 
for New Equipment



I am not going to comment on new products, but I will remind everyone that we 
came from Motorola, not Cambium! 



On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 9:22 AM Colin Stanners  wrote:

  Unfortunately the AirFiber 60 FCC submission does not urrently include the 
user guide, so there's many things that are still unknown about it, but some 
notes from my quick view:



  -The Ubiquiti Early Access store lists it for $300. At that low price I'd be 
quite surprised if it was based on FPGA or Ubnt's proprietay silicon - it's 
likely Wi-Fi chipset based. This would be the first member of the AirFiber 
family that is Wi-Fi chipset based, in which case I'd have questions about its 
performance, especially in number of PPS, and software stability. (Currently 
the AirFiber line is what I consider Ubiquiti's best products - kind of 
expected since the ex-Cambium team was involved).



  -I'm surprised of the manufacturers (Ubnt and MT) that use a grid dish at 
60Ghz; at that wavelengthand considering their experience in using solid 
dishes, I would think it would be easier and cheaper to use a solid dish.





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[AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

[chuck]

Supervising the use of a large Vermeer Rock Wheel yesterday, heard a noise from 
the street, looked over and saw a minivan airborne.  Rotating in all possible 
axes (axes is the proper plural of axis, I actually looked it up).Watching 
for people to come flying out of the vehicle, I was dialing 911 while trying to 
cross a very busy street.  Van came to a rest on its side.  A man and his 
daughter came climbing out the back window.  

Superficial scratches.  Shaken up, but largely unharmed.  They had mounted the 
curb and hit a fire hydrant.  The hydrant came to rest half way from where it 
was originally and where the car came to rest.  

Quite a scene normally seen in movies.  End over end, spinning and rolling.  It 
must have been 6’ off the ground when I first saw it.  
I feared the worst.  For a time I was an EMT when I was young.  Glad to have 
had the training, did not like being an EMT.

I would say seat belts saved them from certain critical injury and most likely 
death.  

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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment

[Matt Hoppes]

So a USB dongle in front of an aluminum pie shield?

On 8/30/19 2:27 PM, Dan Spitler wrote:
Based on my poking around on the UniFi Building Bridge, these are 
probably Peraso-based 802.11ad i.e. the same hardware as found in 
IgniteNet's products.


On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 8:59 AM castarritt . > wrote:


No, you need to wait for 802.11ow

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 10:49 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

I wonder if you could amp one up and turn it into an “active
denial” product...
*From:* Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Friday, August 30, 2019 9:42 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application
Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment
Yes, 60 GHz is unlicensed.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 


Midwest Internet Exchange 


The Brothers WISP 





*From: *ch...@wbmfg.com 
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Sent: *Friday, August 30, 2019 10:34:41 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application
Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment

Is this unlicensed?
*From:* Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Friday, August 30, 2019 9:16 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application
Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment

Test reports shows you the light baby! WiGig chipset FTW!

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*From: *AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf of Chuck Macenski
mailto:ch...@macenski.com>>
*Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Date: *Friday, August 30, 2019 at 10:52 AM
*To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application
Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment

I am not going to comment on new products, but I will remind
everyone that we came from Motorola, not Cambium!

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 9:22 AM Colin Stanners
 wrote:

Unfortunately the AirFiber 60 FCC submission does not
urrently include the user guide, so there's many things that
are still unknown about it, but some notes from my quick view:

-The Ubiquiti Early Access store lists it for $300. At that
low price I'd be quite surprised if it was based on FPGA or
Ubnt's proprietay silicon - it's likely Wi-Fi chipset based.
This would be the first member of the AirFiber family that
is Wi-Fi chipset based, in which case I'd have questions
about its performance, especially in number of PPS, and
software stability. (Currently the AirFiber line is what I
consider Ubiquiti's best products - kind of expected since
the ex-Cambium team was involved).

-I'm surprised of the manufacturers (Ubnt and MT) that use a
grid dish at 60Ghz; at that wavelengthand considering their
experience in using solid dishes, I would think it would be
easier and cheaper to use a solid dish.

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From: *FCC ID Alert* 
Date: Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 8:38 AM
Subject: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti
Inc. 

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment

[Gino A. Villarini]

From the pics, doesn’t look like… the front has the waveguide/heatsink 60 ghz 
thingy..


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From: AF  on behalf of Matt Hoppes 

Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Friday, August 30, 2019 at 2:31 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group , Dan Spitler 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. 
for New Equipment

So a USB dongle in front of an aluminum pie shield?

On 8/30/19 2:27 PM, Dan Spitler wrote:
> Based on my poking around on the UniFi Building Bridge, these are
> probably Peraso-based 802.11ad i.e. the same hardware as found in
> IgniteNet's products.
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 8:59 AM castarritt .  > wrote:
>
> No, you need to wait for 802.11ow
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 10:49 AM  > wrote:
>
> I wonder if you could amp one up and turn it into an “active
> denial” product...
> *From:* Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Friday, August 30, 2019 9:42 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application
> Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment
> Yes, 60 GHz is unlicensed.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> >
> >>>>
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> >
> >>>
> The Brothers WISP 
> >
> >
>
>
> >
> 
> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com 
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  >
> *Sent: *Friday, August 30, 2019 10:34:41 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application
> Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment
>
> Is this unlicensed?
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Friday, August 30, 2019 9:16 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application
> Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment
>
> Test reports shows you the light baby! WiGig chipset FTW!
>
> A screenshot of a cell phone Description automatically generated
>
> *GinoVillarini
> *Founder/President
> @gvillarini
> t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204
> m:
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> *From: *AF  > on behalf of Chuck Macenski
> 

Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

[chuck]

I developed the habit when I was first learning to fly when I was 17 years old. 
 
I feel naked if I don’t click that seat belt.  

From: Sterling Jacobson 
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 10:51 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

Wow.

 

My kids get on my case if I’m not wearing mine, so we’re good here, but man 
that is scary.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:58 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

 

Supervising the use of a large Vermeer Rock Wheel yesterday, heard a noise from 
the street, looked over and saw a minivan airborne.  Rotating in all possible 
axes (axes is the proper plural of axis, I actually looked it up).Watching 
for people to come flying out of the vehicle, I was dialing 911 while trying to 
cross a very busy street.  Van came to a rest on its side.  A man and his 
daughter came climbing out the back window.  

 

Superficial scratches.  Shaken up, but largely unharmed.  They had mounted the 
curb and hit a fire hydrant.  The hydrant came to rest half way from where it 
was originally and where the car came to rest.  

 

Quite a scene normally seen in movies.  End over end, spinning and rolling.  It 
must have been 6’ off the ground when I first saw it.  

I feared the worst.  For a time I was an EMT when I was young.  Glad to have 
had the training, did not like being an EMT.

 

I would say seat belts saved them from certain critical injury and most likely 
death.  

 

Hope everyone always wears their seat belts.  

My wife is still with me due to wearing hers.  




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Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

[dave via AF]

+100%


On 8/30/19 11:56 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I developed the habit when I was first learning to fly when I was 17 
years old.

I feel naked if I don’t click that seat belt.
*From:* Sterling Jacobson
*Sent:* Friday, August 30, 2019 10:51 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

Wow.

My kids get on my case if I’m not wearing mine, so we’re good here, 
but man that is scary.


*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Friday, August 30, 2019 9:58 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

Supervising the use of a large Vermeer Rock Wheel yesterday, heard a 
noise from the street, looked over and saw a minivan airborne.  
Rotating in all possible axes (axes is the proper plural of axis, I 
actually looked it up).    Watching for people to come flying out of 
the vehicle, I was dialing 911 while trying to cross a very busy 
street.  Van came to a rest on its side.  A man and his daughter came 
climbing out the back window.


Superficial scratches.  Shaken up, but largely unharmed.  They had 
mounted the curb and hit a fire hydrant.  The hydrant came to rest 
half way from where it was originally and where the car came to rest.


Quite a scene normally seen in movies.  End over end, spinning and 
rolling.  It must have been 6’ off the ground when I first saw it.


I feared the worst.  For a time I was an EMT when I was young.  Glad 
to have had the training, did not like being an EMT.


I would say seat belts saved them from certain critical injury and 
most likely death.


Hope everyone always wears their seat belts.

My wife is still with me due to wearing hers.


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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment

[Dan Spitler]

Based on my poking around on the UniFi Building Bridge, these are probably
Peraso-based 802.11ad i.e. the same hardware as found in IgniteNet's
products.

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 8:59 AM castarritt .  wrote:

> No, you need to wait for 802.11ow
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 10:49 AM  wrote:
>
>> I wonder if you could amp one up and turn it into an “active denial”
>> product...
>>
>> *From:* Mike Hammett
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 30, 2019 9:42 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed :
>> Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment
>>
>> Yes, 60 GHz is unlicensed.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Friday, August 30, 2019 10:34:41 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed :
>> Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment
>>
>> Is this unlicensed?
>>
>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 30, 2019 9:16 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed :
>> Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment
>>
>>
>> Test reports shows you the light baby! WiGig chipset FTW!
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: A screenshot of a cell phone Description automatically generated]
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino*
>> *Villarini *Founder/President
>> @gvillarini
>> t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204
>> m:
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>>  [image: fb-logo]
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>> 
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>>
>> *From: *AF  on behalf of Chuck Macenski <
>> ch...@macenski.com>
>> *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Date: *Friday, August 30, 2019 at 10:52 AM
>> *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed :
>> Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment
>>
>>
>>
>> I am not going to comment on new products, but I will remind everyone
>> that we came from Motorola, not Cambium!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 9:22 AM Colin Stanners 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately the AirFiber 60 FCC submission does not urrently include
>> the user guide, so there's many things that are still unknown about it, but
>> some notes from my quick view:
>>
>>
>>
>> -The Ubiquiti Early Access store lists it for $300. At that low price I'd
>> be quite surprised if it was based on FPGA or Ubnt's proprietay silicon -
>> it's likely Wi-Fi chipset based. This would be the first member of the
>> AirFiber family that is Wi-Fi chipset based, in which case I'd have
>> questions about its performance, especially in number of PPS, and software
>> stability. (Currently the AirFiber line is what I consider Ubiquiti's best
>> products - kind of expected since the ex-Cambium team was involved).
>>
>>
>>
>> -I'm surprised of the manufacturers (Ubnt and MT) that use a grid dish at
>> 60Ghz; at that wavelengthand considering their experience in using solid
>> dishes, I would think it would be easier and cheaper to use a solid dish.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: *FCC ID Alert* 
>> Date: Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 8:38 AM
>> Subject: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New
>> Equipment
>> To: 
>>
>>
>>
>> FCC ID Application Processed For Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment.
>> FCC ID SWX-AF60
>> 
>> Equipment: airFiber 60
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Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

[Sterling Jacobson]

Wow.

My kids get on my case if I’m not wearing mine, so we’re good here, but man 
that is scary.

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:58 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

Supervising the use of a large Vermeer Rock Wheel yesterday, heard a noise from 
the street, looked over and saw a minivan airborne.  Rotating in all possible 
axes (axes is the proper plural of axis, I actually looked it up).Watching 
for people to come flying out of the vehicle, I was dialing 911 while trying to 
cross a very busy street.  Van came to a rest on its side.  A man and his 
daughter came climbing out the back window.

Superficial scratches.  Shaken up, but largely unharmed.  They had mounted the 
curb and hit a fire hydrant.  The hydrant came to rest half way from where it 
was originally and where the car came to rest.

Quite a scene normally seen in movies.  End over end, spinning and rolling.  It 
must have been 6’ off the ground when I first saw it.
I feared the worst.  For a time I was an EMT when I was young.  Glad to have 
had the training, did not like being an EMT.

I would say seat belts saved them from certain critical injury and most likely 
death.

Hope everyone always wears their seat belts.
My wife is still with me due to wearing hers.
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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment

[chuck]

snap

From: Chuck Macenski 
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 8:51 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. 
for New Equipment

I am not going to comment on new products, but I will remind everyone that we 
came from Motorola, not Cambium! 

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 9:22 AM Colin Stanners  wrote:

  Unfortunately the AirFiber 60 FCC submission does not urrently include the 
user guide, so there's many things that are still unknown about it, but some 
notes from my quick view:

  -The Ubiquiti Early Access store lists it for $300. At that low price I'd be 
quite surprised if it was based on FPGA or Ubnt's proprietay silicon - it's 
likely Wi-Fi chipset based. This would be the first member of the AirFiber 
family that is Wi-Fi chipset based, in which case I'd have questions about its 
performance, especially in number of PPS, and software stability. (Currently 
the AirFiber line is what I consider Ubiquiti's best products - kind of 
expected since the ex-Cambium team was involved).


  -I'm surprised of the manufacturers (Ubnt and MT) that use a grid dish at 
60Ghz; at that wavelengthand considering their experience in using solid 
dishes, I would think it would be easier and cheaper to use a solid dish.


  -- Forwarded message -
  From: FCC ID Alert 
  Date: Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 8:38 AM
  Subject: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New 
Equipment
  To: 



  FCC ID Application Processed For Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment.
  FCC ID SWX-AF60 
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Re: [AFMUG] No escape!!

[dave via AF]

My tech put that on one of our towers yesterday LOL!


On 8/30/19 9:32 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

That is awesome!

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 7:15 AM Adam Moffett > wrote:


That is literally the funniest graffiti I've ever seen.

On 8/29/2019 9:27 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Lol



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Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

[Craig Baird]

Came across a similar thing last Sunday.  Drove past a wreck where a pickup
truck was upside-down about 100 feet off the highway.  Later found out that
there were three vehicles in a line.  Second vehicle was a U-Haul.  Last
vehicle was this pickup.  The pickup pulled out to pass.  While it was
along-side the U-Haul, the U-Haul pulled out to pass as well.  Guessing the
driver didn't check his mirror.  The pickup veered off the road to avoid
the U-Haul hitting it.  Problem was the shoulder was about three feet wide,
and then a 30 foot embankment.  The pickup flipped a number of times and
ended up on the roof.  There were five people in the pickup.  Two in front,
and three in back.  All three in the back seat were without seat belts.
All three were ejected.  Two were life-flighted and the third was killed.
Front seat occupants were wearing seat belts and walked away with just
bumps and scratches.  Didn't even go to the hospital.  It's odd that back
when I was a kid, and they were talking about making a mandatory seat belt
law, there were lots of people up in arms over it.  One of the common
reasons I heard was "If you're in a rollover, you're better off being
ejected."  Ummm... no.

People who don't wear seat belts are either stupid or suicidal.

Incidentally, they're still looking for the U-Haul driver, who didn't even
stop.  They're assuming he was unaware of what was going on to the side and
behind him.  In addition to wearing your seat belt, always be sure to check
your mirror before you pull out to pass.

Craig


On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:55 AM dave via AF  wrote:

> +100%
>
>
> On 8/30/19 11:56 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> I developed the habit when I was first learning to fly when I was 17 years
> old.
> I feel naked if I don’t click that seat belt.
>
> *From:* Sterling Jacobson
> *Sent:* Friday, August 30, 2019 10:51 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday
>
>
> Wow.
>
>
>
> My kids get on my case if I’m not wearing mine, so we’re good here, but
> man that is scary.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF   *On Behalf
> Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Friday, August 30, 2019 9:58 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday
>
>
>
> Supervising the use of a large Vermeer Rock Wheel yesterday, heard a noise
> from the street, looked over and saw a minivan airborne.  Rotating in all
> possible axes (axes is the proper plural of axis, I actually looked it
> up).Watching for people to come flying out of the vehicle, I was
> dialing 911 while trying to cross a very busy street.  Van came to a rest
> on its side.  A man and his daughter came climbing out the back window.
>
>
>
> Superficial scratches.  Shaken up, but largely unharmed.  They had mounted
> the curb and hit a fire hydrant.  The hydrant came to rest half way from
> where it was originally and where the car came to rest.
>
>
>
> Quite a scene normally seen in movies.  End over end, spinning and
> rolling.  It must have been 6’ off the ground when I first saw it.
>
> I feared the worst.  For a time I was an EMT when I was young.  Glad to
> have had the training, did not like being an EMT.
>
>
>
> I would say seat belts saved them from certain critical injury and most
> likely death.
>
>
>
> Hope everyone always wears their seat belts.
>
> My wife is still with me due to wearing hers.
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

[Chuck McCown]

Saw that in the paper.  Yeah, I remember the whole seat belt arguments.  We 
will get trapped in a burning car.  One of the best ones were that said they 
might need to bail out if the car was going over a cliff.  I always look to see 
if fatal wrecks involve ejection,  they frequently do.  No way to take 
advantage of a century of auto safety improvements if you don’t stay inside the 
fricken car.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Craig Baird  wrote:
> 
> Came across a similar thing last Sunday.  Drove past a wreck where a pickup 
> truck was upside-down about 100 feet off the highway.  Later found out that 
> there were three vehicles in a line.  Second vehicle was a U-Haul.  Last 
> vehicle was this pickup.  The pickup pulled out to pass.  While it was 
> along-side the U-Haul, the U-Haul pulled out to pass as well.  Guessing the 
> driver didn't check his mirror.  The pickup veered off the road to avoid the 
> U-Haul hitting it.  Problem was the shoulder was about three feet wide, and 
> then a 30 foot embankment.  The pickup flipped a number of times and ended up 
> on the roof.  There were five people in the pickup.  Two in front, and three 
> in back.  All three in the back seat were without seat belts.  All three were 
> ejected.  Two were life-flighted and the third was killed.  Front seat 
> occupants were wearing seat belts and walked away with just bumps and 
> scratches.  Didn't even go to the hospital.  It's odd that back when I was a 
> kid, and they were talking about making a mandatory seat belt law, there were 
> lots of people up in arms over it.  One of the common reasons I heard was "If 
> you're in a rollover, you're better off being ejected."  Ummm... no.
> 
> People who don't wear seat belts are either stupid or suicidal.
> 
> Incidentally, they're still looking for the U-Haul driver, who didn't even 
> stop.  They're assuming he was unaware of what was going on to the side and 
> behind him.  In addition to wearing your seat belt, always be sure to check 
> your mirror before you pull out to pass.
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:55 AM dave via AF  wrote:
>> +100%
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/30/19 11:56 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>> I developed the habit when I was first learning to fly when I was 17 years 
>>> old. 
>>> I feel naked if I don’t click that seat belt. 
>>>  
>>> From: Sterling Jacobson
>>> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 10:51 AM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday
>>>  
>>> Wow.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> My kids get on my case if I’m not wearing mine, so we’re good here, but man 
>>> that is scary.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
>>> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:58 AM
>>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Supervising the use of a large Vermeer Rock Wheel yesterday, heard a noise 
>>> from the street, looked over and saw a minivan airborne.  Rotating in all 
>>> possible axes (axes is the proper plural of axis, I actually looked it up). 
>>>Watching for people to come flying out of the vehicle, I was dialing 911 
>>> while trying to cross a very busy street.  Van came to a rest on its side.  
>>> A man and his daughter came climbing out the back window. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Superficial scratches.  Shaken up, but largely unharmed.  They had mounted 
>>> the curb and hit a fire hydrant.  The hydrant came to rest half way from 
>>> where it was originally and where the car came to rest. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Quite a scene normally seen in movies.  End over end, spinning and rolling. 
>>>  It must have been 6’ off the ground when I first saw it. 
>>> 
>>> I feared the worst.  For a time I was an EMT when I was young.  Glad to 
>>> have had the training, did not like being an EMT.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I would say seat belts saved them from certain critical injury and most 
>>> likely death.  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Hope everyone always wears their seat belts. 
>>> 
>>> My wife is still with me due to wearing hers. 
>>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

[Brandon Yuchasz]

Yep that sounds more serious. Mine never knocked me that bad just got tight and 
sore sometimes locked up a little. 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 4:35 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

 

I have lost weight.  Did strength training.  But when simply sitting down at a 
hotel conference room table makes me an invalid for a week I am anxious for a 
permanent cure.  Happens at least once a year anymore.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 30, 2019, at 3:27 PM, Brandon Yuchasz  wrote:

Chuck,

I was recently listening to a podcast about back problems they brought up that 
lots of people are walking around with herniated disks but don’t always suffer 
symptoms. 

Not saying not to take it serious because you should but maybe with a grain of 
salt or two.

I can tell you from personal experience that losing 10 pounds and changing my 
diet fixed my “weak” back.

 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 4:10 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

 

Had a foster daughter get ejected and died at the scene.  Her BF was belted in. 
 No injuries.  She drove like a bat out of hell and never wore a belt unless 
she was rinding with me, and even then it was a psychological battle of the 
wills to enforcement.  So it is a personal crusade of mine.

 

In other news has my first MRI today.  Was not expecting to get so hot.  They 
gave me a disk of images.  Looks like I have 3 herniated disks.  Official news 
to come.  I hear most radiology is done in India these days.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Saw that in the paper.  Yeah, I remember the whole seat belt arguments.  We 
will get trapped in a burning car.  One of the best ones were that said they 
might need to bail out if the car was going over a cliff.  I always look to see 
if fatal wrecks involve ejection,  they frequently do.  No way to take 
advantage of a century of auto safety improvements if you don’t stay inside the 
fricken car.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Craig Baird  wrote:

Came across a similar thing last Sunday.  Drove past a wreck where a pickup 
truck was upside-down about 100 feet off the highway.  Later found out that 
there were three vehicles in a line.  Second vehicle was a U-Haul.  Last 
vehicle was this pickup.  The pickup pulled out to pass.  While it was 
along-side the U-Haul, the U-Haul pulled out to pass as well.  Guessing the 
driver didn't check his mirror.  The pickup veered off the road to avoid the 
U-Haul hitting it.  Problem was the shoulder was about three feet wide, and 
then a 30 foot embankment.  The pickup flipped a number of times and ended up 
on the roof.  There were five people in the pickup.  Two in front, and three in 
back.  All three in the back seat were without seat belts.  All three were 
ejected.  Two were life-flighted and the third was killed.  Front seat 
occupants were wearing seat belts and walked away with just bumps and 
scratches.  Didn't even go to the hospital.  It's odd that back when I was a 
kid, and they were talking about making a mandatory seat belt law, there were 
lots of people up in arms over it.  One of the common reasons I heard was "If 
you're in a rollover, you're better off being ejected."  Ummm... no.

 

People who don't wear seat belts are either stupid or suicidal.

 

Incidentally, they're still looking for the U-Haul driver, who didn't even 
stop.  They're assuming he was unaware of what was going on to the side and 
behind him.  In addition to wearing your seat belt, always be sure to check 
your mirror before you pull out to pass.

 

Craig

 

 

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:55 AM dave via AF  wrote:

+100%




On 8/30/19 11:56 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I developed the habit when I was first learning to fly when I was 17 years old. 
 

I feel naked if I don’t click that seat belt.  

 

From: Sterling Jacobson 

Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 10:51 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

 

Wow.

 

My kids get on my case if I’m not wearing mine, so we’re good here, but man 
that is scary.

 

From: AF    On Behalf 
Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:58 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

 

Supervising the use of a large Vermeer Rock Wheel yesterday, heard a noise from 
the street, looked over and saw a minivan airborne.  Rotating in all possible 
axes (axes is the proper plural of axis, I actually looked it up).Watching 
for people to come flying out of the vehicle, I was dialing 911 while trying to 
cross a very busy street.  Van came to a rest on its side.  A man and his 
daughter came climbing out the back window.  

 

Superficial scratches.  Shaken up, but 

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment

[Mathew Howard]

I'm guessing it's probably pretty similar to the MikroTiks, mechanically.

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 2:38 PM Gino A. Villarini  wrote:

> From the pics, doesn’t look like… the front has the waveguide/heatsink 60
> ghz thingy..
>
>
>
> *Gino*
> *Villarini *Founder/President
> @gvillarini
> t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204
> m:
> [image: aeronet-logo]  [image: inc500]
>  [image: fb-logo]
>   [image: insta-logo]
>   [image: in-logo]
>   [image:
> tw-logo]
> 
>   [image: yt-logo]
> 
> www.aeronetpr.com | Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968
>
> *From: *AF  on behalf of Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
> *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Date: *Friday, August 30, 2019 at 2:31 PM
> *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group , Dan Spitler <
> d...@common.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed :
> Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment
>
>
>
> So a USB dongle in front of an aluminum pie shield?
>
> On 8/30/19 2:27 PM, Dan Spitler wrote:
> > Based on my poking around on the UniFi Building Bridge, these are
> > probably Peraso-based 802.11ad i.e. the same hardware as found in
> > IgniteNet's products.
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 8:59 AM castarritt .  > > wrote:
> >
> > No, you need to wait for 802.11ow
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 10:49 AM  > > wrote:
> >
> > I wonder if you could amp one up and turn it into an “active
> > denial” product...
> > *From:* Mike Hammett
> > *Sent:* Friday, August 30, 2019 9:42 AM
> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application
> > Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment
> > Yes, 60 GHz is unlicensed.
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> > <
> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><
> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><
> https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> > Midwest Internet Exchange 
> > <
> https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><
> https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> > The Brothers WISP 
> > 
> >
> >
> > 
> > 
> > *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com 
> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  > >
> > *Sent: *Friday, August 30, 2019 10:34:41 AM
> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application
> > Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment
> >
> > Is this unlicensed?
> > *From:* Gino A. Villarini
> > *Sent:* Friday, August 30, 2019 9:16 AM
> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application
> > Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment
> >
> > Test reports shows you the light baby! WiGig chipset FTW!
> >
> > A screenshot of a cell phone Description automatically generated
> >
> > *GinoVillarini
> > *Founder/President
> > @gvillarini
> > t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204
> > m:
> >
> > aeronet-logo  inc500
> >  fb-logo
> >  insta-logo
> >  in-logo
> > 
> > tw-logo
> > <
> https://twitter.com/AeroNetPR?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
> >
> > yt-logo
> > 
> >
> > www.aeronetpr.com | Metro Office Park
> > #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968
> >
> > *From: *AF  > > on behalf of Chuck Macenski
> > mailto:ch...@macenski.com>>
> > *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  > >
> > *Date: *Friday, August 30, 2019 at 10:52 AM
> > *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  > >
> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application
> > Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment
> >
> > I am not going to comment on new products, but I will remind
> > everyone that we came from Motorola, not Cambium!
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 9:22 AM Colin Stanners
> >  wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately the AirFiber 60 FCC submission does not
> > urrently include the user guide, so there's many things that
> > are still unknown about it, but some notes from my quick view:
> >
> > -The Ubiquiti 

Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

[Brandon Yuchasz]

Chuck,

I was recently listening to a podcast about back problems they brought up that 
lots of people are walking around with herniated disks but don’t always suffer 
symptoms. 

Not saying not to take it serious because you should but maybe with a grain of 
salt or two.

I can tell you from personal experience that losing 10 pounds and changing my 
diet fixed my “weak” back.

 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 4:10 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

 

Had a foster daughter get ejected and died at the scene.  Her BF was belted in. 
 No injuries.  She drove like a bat out of hell and never wore a belt unless 
she was rinding with me, and even then it was a psychological battle of the 
wills to enforcement.  So it is a personal crusade of mine.

 

In other news has my first MRI today.  Was not expecting to get so hot.  They 
gave me a disk of images.  Looks like I have 3 herniated disks.  Official news 
to come.  I hear most radiology is done in India these days.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Saw that in the paper.  Yeah, I remember the whole seat belt arguments.  We 
will get trapped in a burning car.  One of the best ones were that said they 
might need to bail out if the car was going over a cliff.  I always look to see 
if fatal wrecks involve ejection,  they frequently do.  No way to take 
advantage of a century of auto safety improvements if you don’t stay inside the 
fricken car.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Craig Baird  wrote:

Came across a similar thing last Sunday.  Drove past a wreck where a pickup 
truck was upside-down about 100 feet off the highway.  Later found out that 
there were three vehicles in a line.  Second vehicle was a U-Haul.  Last 
vehicle was this pickup.  The pickup pulled out to pass.  While it was 
along-side the U-Haul, the U-Haul pulled out to pass as well.  Guessing the 
driver didn't check his mirror.  The pickup veered off the road to avoid the 
U-Haul hitting it.  Problem was the shoulder was about three feet wide, and 
then a 30 foot embankment.  The pickup flipped a number of times and ended up 
on the roof.  There were five people in the pickup.  Two in front, and three in 
back.  All three in the back seat were without seat belts.  All three were 
ejected.  Two were life-flighted and the third was killed.  Front seat 
occupants were wearing seat belts and walked away with just bumps and 
scratches.  Didn't even go to the hospital.  It's odd that back when I was a 
kid, and they were talking about making a mandatory seat belt law, there were 
lots of people up in arms over it.  One of the common reasons I heard was "If 
you're in a rollover, you're better off being ejected."  Ummm... no.

 

People who don't wear seat belts are either stupid or suicidal.

 

Incidentally, they're still looking for the U-Haul driver, who didn't even 
stop.  They're assuming he was unaware of what was going on to the side and 
behind him.  In addition to wearing your seat belt, always be sure to check 
your mirror before you pull out to pass.

 

Craig

 

 

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:55 AM dave via AF  wrote:

+100%



On 8/30/19 11:56 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I developed the habit when I was first learning to fly when I was 17 years old. 
 

I feel naked if I don’t click that seat belt.  

 

From: Sterling Jacobson 

Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 10:51 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

 

Wow.

 

My kids get on my case if I’m not wearing mine, so we’re good here, but man 
that is scary.

 

From: AF    On Behalf 
Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:58 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

 

Supervising the use of a large Vermeer Rock Wheel yesterday, heard a noise from 
the street, looked over and saw a minivan airborne.  Rotating in all possible 
axes (axes is the proper plural of axis, I actually looked it up).Watching 
for people to come flying out of the vehicle, I was dialing 911 while trying to 
cross a very busy street.  Van came to a rest on its side.  A man and his 
daughter came climbing out the back window.  

 

Superficial scratches.  Shaken up, but largely unharmed.  They had mounted the 
curb and hit a fire hydrant.  The hydrant came to rest half way from where it 
was originally and where the car came to rest.  

 

Quite a scene normally seen in movies.  End over end, spinning and rolling.  It 
must have been 6’ off the ground when I first saw it.  

I feared the worst.  For a time I was an EMT when I was young.  Glad to have 
had the training, did not like being an EMT.

 

I would say seat belts saved them from certain critical injury and most likely 
death.  

 

Hope everyone always wears their seat belts.  

My wife is still with me 

Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

[Seth Mattinen]

On 8/30/19 1:34 PM, Craig Baird wrote:
One of the common reasons I heard was "If you're in a rollover, you're 
better off being ejected."  Ummm... no.



I still hear that today.

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[AFMUG] OT movie review

[Chuck McCown]

“Ready or Not”

Somewhat amusing horror flick.  In the same vein as “Get out”

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Re: [AFMUG] Using Surge Suppressors at CPE? Who does it?

[Sam Lambie]

What we normally do is place an SS at the inside junction, and then add a
ground wire with ring terminal to the ground prong of a power strip plug,
or go directly to the electrical plug. Sometimes, I feel like it's PPP,
(Purely Psychological Protection) since we can't tell how many times they
have done their job.

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 10:13 AM dave via AF  wrote:

> The Bottom line is if its too difficult to ground an SS outdoors at the
> bare minimal place an inline protector at the router.
> We do all of the above where it makes sense to otherwise inline is where
> its at.
> They have saved us tons of routers from being blown.
>
>
> On 8/29/19 1:43 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:
>
> We install a one at the entry on every 450 install.  End up grounding to a
> hose bib or conduit into the ground at the back of the house half the
> time.  Service grounds in the city are generally long gone/built over and
> impossible to find.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 12:06 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> I am wondering how many of you install either a Cambium SS, McCowntech SS
>> or Ubiquiti SS at a customers house.
>> We have been doing it since day one by placing inside at the antenna
>> cable ingress location. Makes for a great coupler to change the cable from
>> outdoor to indoor as well.
>> Since Cambiums SS's have gotten stupidly pricey, we have switched to
>> Ubiquiti, but they suck to mount cleanly and quickly. And to be honest,
>> Mccowntech are expensive as well.
>> My question is this, who thinks it's worth it to do every home all the
>> time?
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

[Chuck McCown]

I have lost weight.  Did strength training.  But when simply sitting down at a 
hotel conference room table makes me an invalid for a week I am anxious for a 
permanent cure.  Happens at least once a year anymore.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 30, 2019, at 3:27 PM, Brandon Yuchasz  wrote:
> 
> Chuck,
> I was recently listening to a podcast about back problems they brought up 
> that lots of people are walking around with herniated disks but don’t always 
> suffer symptoms.
> Not saying not to take it serious because you should but maybe with a grain 
> of salt or two.
> I can tell you from personal experience that losing 10 pounds and changing my 
> diet fixed my “weak” back.
>  
>  
> From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 4:10 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday
>  
> Had a foster daughter get ejected and died at the scene.  Her BF was belted 
> in.  No injuries.  She drove like a bat out of hell and never wore a belt 
> unless she was rinding with me, and even then it was a psychological battle 
> of the wills to enforcement.  So it is a personal crusade of mine.
>  
> In other news has my first MRI today.  Was not expecting to get so hot.  They 
> gave me a disk of images.  Looks like I have 3 herniated disks.  Official 
> news to come.  I hear most radiology is done in India these days.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> 
> Saw that in the paper.  Yeah, I remember the whole seat belt arguments.  We 
> will get trapped in a burning car.  One of the best ones were that said they 
> might need to bail out if the car was going over a cliff.  I always look to 
> see if fatal wrecks involve ejection,  they frequently do.  No way to take 
> advantage of a century of auto safety improvements if you don’t stay inside 
> the fricken car.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Craig Baird  wrote:
> 
> Came across a similar thing last Sunday.  Drove past a wreck where a pickup 
> truck was upside-down about 100 feet off the highway.  Later found out that 
> there were three vehicles in a line.  Second vehicle was a U-Haul.  Last 
> vehicle was this pickup.  The pickup pulled out to pass.  While it was 
> along-side the U-Haul, the U-Haul pulled out to pass as well.  Guessing the 
> driver didn't check his mirror.  The pickup veered off the road to avoid the 
> U-Haul hitting it.  Problem was the shoulder was about three feet wide, and 
> then a 30 foot embankment.  The pickup flipped a number of times and ended up 
> on the roof.  There were five people in the pickup.  Two in front, and three 
> in back.  All three in the back seat were without seat belts.  All three were 
> ejected.  Two were life-flighted and the third was killed.  Front seat 
> occupants were wearing seat belts and walked away with just bumps and 
> scratches.  Didn't even go to the hospital.  It's odd that back when I was a 
> kid, and they were talking about making a mandatory seat belt law, there were 
> lots of people up in arms over it.  One of the common reasons I heard was "If 
> you're in a rollover, you're better off being ejected."  Ummm... no.
>  
> People who don't wear seat belts are either stupid or suicidal.
>  
> Incidentally, they're still looking for the U-Haul driver, who didn't even 
> stop.  They're assuming he was unaware of what was going on to the side and 
> behind him.  In addition to wearing your seat belt, always be sure to check 
> your mirror before you pull out to pass.
>  
> Craig
>  
>  
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:55 AM dave via AF  wrote:
> +100%
> 
> 
> On 8/30/19 11:56 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> I developed the habit when I was first learning to fly when I was 17 years 
> old. 
> I feel naked if I don’t click that seat belt. 
>  
> From: Sterling Jacobson
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 10:51 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday
>  
> Wow.
>  
> My kids get on my case if I’m not wearing mine, so we’re good here, but man 
> that is scary.
>  
> From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:58 AM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday
>  
> Supervising the use of a large Vermeer Rock Wheel yesterday, heard a noise 
> from the street, looked over and saw a minivan airborne.  Rotating in all 
> possible axes (axes is the proper plural of axis, I actually looked it up).   
>  Watching for people to come flying out of the vehicle, I was dialing 911 
> while trying to cross a very busy street.  Van came to a rest on its side.  A 
> man and his daughter came climbing out the back window. 
>  
> Superficial scratches.  Shaken up, but largely unharmed.  They had mounted 
> the curb and hit a fire hydrant.  The hydrant came to rest half way from 
> where it was originally and where the car came to rest. 
>  
> Quite a scene 

Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

[Ken Hohhof]

Did you see the video 2 days ago of a rhino flipping a car?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/watch-rhino-attacks-zookeeper-s-car-germany-no-one-was-n1047221

 

I guess the zookeeper had his seat belt on.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Brandon Yuchasz
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 4:49 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

 

Yep that sounds more serious. Mine never knocked me that bad just got tight and 
sore sometimes locked up a little. 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 4:35 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

 

I have lost weight.  Did strength training.  But when simply sitting down at a 
hotel conference room table makes me an invalid for a week I am anxious for a 
permanent cure.  Happens at least once a year anymore.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 30, 2019, at 3:27 PM, Brandon Yuchasz mailto:li...@gogebicrange.net> > wrote:

Chuck,

I was recently listening to a podcast about back problems they brought up that 
lots of people are walking around with herniated disks but don’t always suffer 
symptoms. 

Not saying not to take it serious because you should but maybe with a grain of 
salt or two.

I can tell you from personal experience that losing 10 pounds and changing my 
diet fixed my “weak” back.

 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 4:10 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

 

Had a foster daughter get ejected and died at the scene.  Her BF was belted in. 
 No injuries.  She drove like a bat out of hell and never wore a belt unless 
she was rinding with me, and even then it was a psychological battle of the 
wills to enforcement.  So it is a personal crusade of mine.

 

In other news has my first MRI today.  Was not expecting to get so hot.  They 
gave me a disk of images.  Looks like I have 3 herniated disks.  Official news 
to come.  I hear most radiology is done in India these days.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

Saw that in the paper.  Yeah, I remember the whole seat belt arguments.  We 
will get trapped in a burning car.  One of the best ones were that said they 
might need to bail out if the car was going over a cliff.  I always look to see 
if fatal wrecks involve ejection,  they frequently do.  No way to take 
advantage of a century of auto safety improvements if you don’t stay inside the 
fricken car.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Craig Baird mailto:cr...@xpressweb.com> > wrote:

Came across a similar thing last Sunday.  Drove past a wreck where a pickup 
truck was upside-down about 100 feet off the highway.  Later found out that 
there were three vehicles in a line.  Second vehicle was a U-Haul.  Last 
vehicle was this pickup.  The pickup pulled out to pass.  While it was 
along-side the U-Haul, the U-Haul pulled out to pass as well.  Guessing the 
driver didn't check his mirror.  The pickup veered off the road to avoid the 
U-Haul hitting it.  Problem was the shoulder was about three feet wide, and 
then a 30 foot embankment.  The pickup flipped a number of times and ended up 
on the roof.  There were five people in the pickup.  Two in front, and three in 
back.  All three in the back seat were without seat belts.  All three were 
ejected.  Two were life-flighted and the third was killed.  Front seat 
occupants were wearing seat belts and walked away with just bumps and 
scratches.  Didn't even go to the hospital.  It's odd that back when I was a 
kid, and they were talking about making a mandatory seat belt law, there were 
lots of people up in arms over it.  One of the common reasons I heard was "If 
you're in a rollover, you're better off being ejected."  Ummm... no.

 

People who don't wear seat belts are either stupid or suicidal.

 

Incidentally, they're still looking for the U-Haul driver, who didn't even 
stop.  They're assuming he was unaware of what was going on to the side and 
behind him.  In addition to wearing your seat belt, always be sure to check 
your mirror before you pull out to pass.

 

Craig

 

 

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:55 AM dave via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

+100%



On 8/30/19 11:56 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com   wrote:

I developed the habit when I was first learning to fly when I was 17 years old. 
 

I feel naked if I don’t click that seat belt.  

 

From: Sterling Jacobson 

Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 10:51 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

 

Wow.

 

My kids get on my case if I’m not wearing mine, so we’re good here, but man 
that is scary.

 

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Of ch...@wbmfg.com  
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:58 AM
To: 

[AFMUG] Using Radius on Cambium with LDAP credentials.

[Sam Lambie]

Has anyone been able to make Cambium EAP-MD5 play well with LDAP?

Sam

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Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday

[Chuck McCown]

Had a foster daughter get ejected and died at the scene.  Her BF was belted in. 
 No injuries.  She drove like a bat out of hell and never wore a belt unless 
she was rinding with me, and even then it was a psychological battle of the 
wills to enforcement.  So it is a personal crusade of mine.

In other news has my first MRI today.  Was not expecting to get so hot.  They 
gave me a disk of images.  Looks like I have 3 herniated disks.  Official news 
to come.  I hear most radiology is done in India these days.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> 
> Saw that in the paper.  Yeah, I remember the whole seat belt arguments.  We 
> will get trapped in a burning car.  One of the best ones were that said they 
> might need to bail out if the car was going over a cliff.  I always look to 
> see if fatal wrecks involve ejection,  they frequently do.  No way to take 
> advantage of a century of auto safety improvements if you don’t stay inside 
> the fricken car.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Craig Baird  wrote:
>> 
>> Came across a similar thing last Sunday.  Drove past a wreck where a pickup 
>> truck was upside-down about 100 feet off the highway.  Later found out that 
>> there were three vehicles in a line.  Second vehicle was a U-Haul.  Last 
>> vehicle was this pickup.  The pickup pulled out to pass.  While it was 
>> along-side the U-Haul, the U-Haul pulled out to pass as well.  Guessing the 
>> driver didn't check his mirror.  The pickup veered off the road to avoid the 
>> U-Haul hitting it.  Problem was the shoulder was about three feet wide, and 
>> then a 30 foot embankment.  The pickup flipped a number of times and ended 
>> up on the roof.  There were five people in the pickup.  Two in front, and 
>> three in back.  All three in the back seat were without seat belts.  All 
>> three were ejected.  Two were life-flighted and the third was killed.  Front 
>> seat occupants were wearing seat belts and walked away with just bumps and 
>> scratches.  Didn't even go to the hospital.  It's odd that back when I was a 
>> kid, and they were talking about making a mandatory seat belt law, there 
>> were lots of people up in arms over it.  One of the common reasons I heard 
>> was "If you're in a rollover, you're better off being ejected."  Ummm... no.
>> 
>> People who don't wear seat belts are either stupid or suicidal.
>> 
>> Incidentally, they're still looking for the U-Haul driver, who didn't even 
>> stop.  They're assuming he was unaware of what was going on to the side and 
>> behind him.  In addition to wearing your seat belt, always be sure to check 
>> your mirror before you pull out to pass.
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:55 AM dave via AF  wrote:
>>> +100%
>>> 
>>> 
 On 8/30/19 11:56 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
 I developed the habit when I was first learning to fly when I was 17 years 
 old. 
 I feel naked if I don’t click that seat belt. 
  
 From: Sterling Jacobson
 Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 10:51 AM
 To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday
  
 Wow.
 
  
 
 My kids get on my case if I’m not wearing mine, so we’re good here, but 
 man that is scary.
 
  
 
 From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
 Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:58 AM
 To: af@af.afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday
 
  
 
 Supervising the use of a large Vermeer Rock Wheel yesterday, heard a noise 
 from the street, looked over and saw a minivan 
 airborne.  Rotating in all possible axes (axes is the proper plural of 
 axis, I actually looked it up).Watching for people to come flying out 
 of the vehicle, I was dialing 911 while trying to cross a very busy 
 street.  Van came to a rest on its side.  A man and his daughter came 
 climbing out the back window. 
 
  
 
 Superficial scratches.  Shaken up, but largely unharmed.  They had mounted 
 the curb and hit a fire hydrant.  The hydrant came to rest half way from 
 where it was originally and where the car came to rest.  
 
  
 
 Quite a scene normally seen in movies.  End over end, spinning and 
 rolling.  It must have been 6’ off the ground when I first saw it. 
 
 I feared the worst.  For a time I was an EMT when I was young.  Glad to 
 have had the training, did not like being an EMT.
 
  
 
 I would say seat belts saved them from certain critical injury and most 
 likely death. 
 
  
 
 Hope everyone always wears their seat belts. 
 
 My wife is still with me due to wearing hers. 
 
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