Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for SEAL's death in Yemen raid

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

You need to do the right thing and eat a fucking bullet or cross that
fucking border, true colors. I don't have a problem with you bashing a man,
but you attack the fucking wife of a dead service member I don't give a
shit who the fuck you think you are or how good you think you are at wiring
up some little square boxes with some little fucking wires. Get the fuck
out of here you are an utter piece of shit

On Feb 28, 2017 9:09 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Bash her why?   She is a non issue to me..She chose to stay in
relationship... She has to live with herself.. you play checkers...I play
chess ..Damn pence looks like Race Bannon Waiting for Jonny Quest theme
song

On Feb 28, 2017 8:04 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Go ahead now josh and jaime.. bash his wife. True colors moment
>
> On Feb 28, 2017 8:40 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
>> What does “proven to be what it was mean”.  Kind of hard to know exactly
>> “what it was” when they Obama administration hid everyone who was stationed
>> there in “overseas” assignments so they couldn’t be called to testify and
>> stonewalled the entire investigation for even longer.  Not exactly a
>> roaring example of not hiding the facts.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 7:38 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals
>> for SEAL's death in Yemen raid
>>
>>
>>
>> Benghazi was proven to be what it was ... Period.. you will never change
>> the facts...No matter how you tryI don't believe Trump wrote much of
>> what he is sayingGreat ideas to be sure on paper...He is sellingI
>> believe in America...Not him
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2017 7:29 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>>
>> I should have said Democrats who are the current supporters of Obama.  I
>> can start with the Clintons in the 90’s with Loral and Johnny Chung.  Their
>> trail of being traitors to the U.S. is long and well documented.
>>
>>
>>
>> In more recent times, Benghazi, side deals with Iran, multiple side deals
>> with Russia, Podesta, Hillary, etc…  Move on to the email server and then
>> from there, keep following the money with Hillary and Bill.  The recent
>> leaks of some of Trumps conversations definitely fall under the category of
>> treason.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 6:14 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals
>> for SEAL's death in Yemen raid
>>
>>
>>
>> That's a heck of an accusation.
>>
>> Do you have an example of Obama supporters committing treason?
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>>
>> From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>
>>
>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>
>> Sent: 2/28/2017 7:39:07 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for
>> SEAL's death in Yemen raid
>>
>>
>>
>> Trump had nothing to do with this mission but considering that Obama
>> supporters are not above treason to make their political goals, that’s
>> where I’d be starting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 5:35 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals
>> for SEAL's death in Yemen raid
>>
>>
>>
>> Might be simpler than that. Could just be a few idiots in the new admin
>> that don't know how to keep their traps shut. His Orangeness doesn't seem
>> to connect the dots very well himself. He thought the conversations that
>> Flynn was having with the Russians were a good thing.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:25 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Who benefits from the leak?
>>
>>1. ISIS
>>2. Enemies of Trump/GOP/USA
>>
>> ISIS probably did not leak to themselves.
>>
>>
>>
>> So what does that leave us with?
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for SEAL's death in Yemen raid

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Are you fucking serious. You can go fuck yourself. You say that shit about
the wife of a dead seal, you can fuck off. I had respect for you, a great
deal til that. Now I really don't give a shit, you're a fucking trashcan.

On Feb 28, 2017 9:09 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Bash her why?   She is a non issue to me..She chose to stay in
relationship... She has to live with herself.. you play checkers...I play
chess ..Damn pence looks like Race Bannon Waiting for Jonny Quest theme
song

On Feb 28, 2017 8:04 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Go ahead now josh and jaime.. bash his wife. True colors moment
>
> On Feb 28, 2017 8:40 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
>> What does “proven to be what it was mean”.  Kind of hard to know exactly
>> “what it was” when they Obama administration hid everyone who was stationed
>> there in “overseas” assignments so they couldn’t be called to testify and
>> stonewalled the entire investigation for even longer.  Not exactly a
>> roaring example of not hiding the facts.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 7:38 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals
>> for SEAL's death in Yemen raid
>>
>>
>>
>> Benghazi was proven to be what it was ... Period.. you will never change
>> the facts...No matter how you tryI don't believe Trump wrote much of
>> what he is sayingGreat ideas to be sure on paper...He is sellingI
>> believe in America...Not him
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2017 7:29 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>>
>> I should have said Democrats who are the current supporters of Obama.  I
>> can start with the Clintons in the 90’s with Loral and Johnny Chung.  Their
>> trail of being traitors to the U.S. is long and well documented.
>>
>>
>>
>> In more recent times, Benghazi, side deals with Iran, multiple side deals
>> with Russia, Podesta, Hillary, etc…  Move on to the email server and then
>> from there, keep following the money with Hillary and Bill.  The recent
>> leaks of some of Trumps conversations definitely fall under the category of
>> treason.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 6:14 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals
>> for SEAL's death in Yemen raid
>>
>>
>>
>> That's a heck of an accusation.
>>
>> Do you have an example of Obama supporters committing treason?
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>>
>> From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>
>>
>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>
>> Sent: 2/28/2017 7:39:07 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for
>> SEAL's death in Yemen raid
>>
>>
>>
>> Trump had nothing to do with this mission but considering that Obama
>> supporters are not above treason to make their political goals, that’s
>> where I’d be starting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 5:35 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals
>> for SEAL's death in Yemen raid
>>
>>
>>
>> Might be simpler than that. Could just be a few idiots in the new admin
>> that don't know how to keep their traps shut. His Orangeness doesn't seem
>> to connect the dots very well himself. He thought the conversations that
>> Flynn was having with the Russians were a good thing.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:25 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Who benefits from the leak?
>>
>>1. ISIS
>>2. Enemies of Trump/GOP/USA
>>
>> ISIS probably did not leak to themselves.
>>
>>
>>
>> So what does that leave us with?
>>
>>
>>
>> Apply Occam's razor.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* *That One Guy /sarcasm*
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:47 PM
>>
>> *To:* 

Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for SEAL's death in Yemen raid

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

You know why a lot of people refuse to call them widows, and continuously
call them wives? In a true Patriots eyes, those men live on forever, the
rest, they wipe their feet on their memory

On Feb 28, 2017 9:06 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Rory I respect you as a wireless expert and business man...I don't and will
never take your position on Trump,Benghazi and right wing thinkingThis
speech is filled with sound bites.  ...He is using sales techniques by
bringing in folks to prove his pointsSalesmanshipBut as supporter
of veterans with grandfather ,father,brother and son serving I still find
what he did by throwing blame elsewhere unforgivable...My Catholic
upbringing asks me to forgive him...I can't...Even with Lent starting later
tonight...I just can't

On Feb 28, 2017 7:40 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

What does “proven to be what it was mean”.  Kind of hard to know exactly
“what it was” when they Obama administration hid everyone who was stationed
there in “overseas” assignments so they couldn’t be called to testify and
stonewalled the entire investigation for even longer.  Not exactly a
roaring example of not hiding the facts.



Rory



*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 7:38 PM
*To:* Animal Farm

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for
SEAL's death in Yemen raid



Benghazi was proven to be what it was ... Period.. you will never change
the facts...No matter how you tryI don't believe Trump wrote much of
what he is sayingGreat ideas to be sure on paper...He is sellingI
believe in America...Not him





On Feb 28, 2017 7:29 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

I should have said Democrats who are the current supporters of Obama.  I
can start with the Clintons in the 90’s with Loral and Johnny Chung.  Their
trail of being traitors to the U.S. is long and well documented.



In more recent times, Benghazi, side deals with Iran, multiple side deals
with Russia, Podesta, Hillary, etc…  Move on to the email server and then
from there, keep following the money with Hillary and Bill.  The recent
leaks of some of Trumps conversations definitely fall under the category of
treason.



Rory



*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 6:14 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for
SEAL's death in Yemen raid



That's a heck of an accusation.

Do you have an example of Obama supporters committing treason?



-- Original Message --

From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>

To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>

Sent: 2/28/2017 7:39:07 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for
SEAL's death in Yemen raid



Trump had nothing to do with this mission but considering that Obama
supporters are not above treason to make their political goals, that’s
where I’d be starting.



Rory



*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 5:35 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for
SEAL's death in Yemen raid



Might be simpler than that. Could just be a few idiots in the new admin
that don't know how to keep their traps shut. His Orangeness doesn't seem
to connect the dots very well himself. He thought the conversations that
Flynn was having with the Russians were a good thing.



On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:25 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:



Who benefits from the leak?

   1. ISIS
   2. Enemies of Trump/GOP/USA

ISIS probably did not leak to themselves.



So what does that leave us with?



Apply Occam's razor.



*From:* *That One Guy /sarcasm*

*Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:47 PM

*To:* *af@afmug.com <af@afmug.com>*

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for
SEAL's death in Yemen raid



Exactly, thats why the dad didnt need to request an investigation, it is
being investigated



He should have not addressed that during the softball interview and waited
til tonights address with a prepared speech



but this is going to have a shit ton of fallout



On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Chuck McCown <*ch...@wbmfg.com
<ch...@wbmfg.com>*> wrote:

The person to blame is the one that leaked details of the action to the bad
guys.

They walked into a setup.  This was long planned under Obama.



How do you not know that Obama did not leak it to make Trump look bad?  Or
Hillary?



Somebody in the know leaked it.



He blamed our military.  He is the Commander.  Therefore he is blaming
himself irrespective of his words.

The guy certainly has no grace or class when it comes to things like this.
He needs a bit of “th

Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for SEAL's death in Yemen raid

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Go ahead now josh and jaime.. bash his wife. True colors moment

On Feb 28, 2017 8:40 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

> What does “proven to be what it was mean”.  Kind of hard to know exactly
> “what it was” when they Obama administration hid everyone who was stationed
> there in “overseas” assignments so they couldn’t be called to testify and
> stonewalled the entire investigation for even longer.  Not exactly a
> roaring example of not hiding the facts.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 7:38 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for
> SEAL's death in Yemen raid
>
>
>
> Benghazi was proven to be what it was ... Period.. you will never change
> the facts...No matter how you tryI don't believe Trump wrote much of
> what he is sayingGreat ideas to be sure on paper...He is sellingI
> believe in America...Not him
>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 28, 2017 7:29 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
> I should have said Democrats who are the current supporters of Obama.  I
> can start with the Clintons in the 90’s with Loral and Johnny Chung.  Their
> trail of being traitors to the U.S. is long and well documented.
>
>
>
> In more recent times, Benghazi, side deals with Iran, multiple side deals
> with Russia, Podesta, Hillary, etc…  Move on to the email server and then
> from there, keep following the money with Hillary and Bill.  The recent
> leaks of some of Trumps conversations definitely fall under the category of
> treason.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 6:14 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for
> SEAL's death in Yemen raid
>
>
>
> That's a heck of an accusation.
>
> Do you have an example of Obama supporters committing treason?
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
>
> From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>
>
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>
> Sent: 2/28/2017 7:39:07 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for
> SEAL's death in Yemen raid
>
>
>
> Trump had nothing to do with this mission but considering that Obama
> supporters are not above treason to make their political goals, that’s
> where I’d be starting.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 5:35 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for
> SEAL's death in Yemen raid
>
>
>
> Might be simpler than that. Could just be a few idiots in the new admin
> that don't know how to keep their traps shut. His Orangeness doesn't seem
> to connect the dots very well himself. He thought the conversations that
> Flynn was having with the Russians were a good thing.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:25 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Who benefits from the leak?
>
>1. ISIS
>2. Enemies of Trump/GOP/USA
>
> ISIS probably did not leak to themselves.
>
>
>
> So what does that leave us with?
>
>
>
> Apply Occam's razor.
>
>
>
> *From:* *That One Guy /sarcasm*
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:47 PM
>
> *To:* *af@afmug.com <af@afmug.com>*
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for
> SEAL's death in Yemen raid
>
>
>
> Exactly, thats why the dad didnt need to request an investigation, it is
> being investigated
>
>
>
> He should have not addressed that during the softball interview and waited
> til tonights address with a prepared speech
>
>
>
> but this is going to have a shit ton of fallout
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Chuck McCown <*ch...@wbmfg.com
> <ch...@wbmfg.com>*> wrote:
>
> The person to blame is the one that leaked details of the action to the
> bad guys.
>
> They walked into a setup.  This was long planned under Obama.
>
>
>
> How do you not know that Obama did not leak it to make Trump look bad?  Or
> Hillary?
>
>
>
> Somebody in the know leaked it.
>
>
>
> He blamed our military.  He is the Commander.  Therefore he is blaming
> himself irrespective of his words.
>
> The guy certainly has no grace or class when it comes to things like
> this.  He need

Re: [AFMUG] tornadoes

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

I love the comed maps, and alerts, that's why I'm not so pissed about them
killing my 900, ameren, not that I'm a big swearer or anything, but fuck
those guys. We have a site on ameren I hate, heavy winds drop the pole
fuses all the time, takes them days to set them half the time, if I had a
hot stick and slightly bigger testes like my old man, I'd reset them
myself. Meanwhile comed is out rolling rltrucks and insane manpower before
the tornados are even off their lines most of the time

On Feb 28, 2017 7:29 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

I had a few customers in ComEd area near Sheridan/Serena down, and they all
just came back up together.  The only customers I know of still down are in
the area of the Ameren outage.



I am used to checking the ComEd outage map.  Outages usually take 1-2 hours
to show up on the map, but the information is incredibly detailed.  The
Ameren map is stone age by comparison.  Still useful.



No tower or network problems that I’m aware of, but luckily my towers are
all north of the storm area.  Only by a few miles, so there were definitely
customers not so lucky.



Hoping this is minor compared to the tornados that ripped through
Sublette/Woodhaven and Coal City a couple years ago.





*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
/sarcasm
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 7:13 PM

*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] tornadoes



I have sick days if need be btw. And a tower crew available after Friday (I
don't know how free $$$ they are, they aren't my guys)

I'm not being nice, I just know you northbound guys have a lot of DC plant
I want to look at.



On Feb 28, 2017 7:04 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

I found the Ameren outage map, it's nowhere near as good as the ComEd map.
But it appears there are power problems in Ottawa.  Bigly.

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 6:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tornadoes

On 2/28/17 16:41, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
> I'm sitting here in the country  watching this light show to the north
> figuring if I was watching your map every flash adds a couple more red
> dots
>


http://en.blitzortung.org/

Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for SEAL's death in Yemen raid

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

I'll give you that, first mission authorization, this was fubar, he
relegated and assumed intelligence was good. I can guarantee zero Obama
administration intelligence will ever be given credence again.
We have good leadership in the military now, that you can't paint another
way. But it's all limited now to mission day forward intelligence.
If trump is smart, here in a half hour he will own this clusterfuck,
ideally apologizing to the parents as a man. I doubt he will. We haven't
had a military ready president in a long time, so I'm hoping he owns that
too, he's got ideas, but will leave that to those who actually know, he
already did this regarding enhanced interrogation.
He could personally go over and kill every isis, AL queada and unknown
terrorist, and you would still fault him, so I take your words with a block
of salt, as I assume you do mine.
He didn't say we as in the soldiers go over and don't fight to win, he said
we as an administratively run nation dont, I don't anticipate you
understanding that, it's expected you'll respond that way. But he has put
leadership in place with an objective to win, and allowed them to define
that win. As it should be. Win means a ending the target threat. Not
appeasing the UN, or some liberal cuck stateside with a ginkos printed sign
on a stick who can barely lift it.


On Feb 28, 2017 7:21 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

There is a very large group of veterans who are fucking pissed that our
commander in chief said that we don't fight to win. Mattis is also pissed
his new boss called him a soldier. I love my retarted marine brothers and
sisters, and we take offense whenever some civvy doesn't know the
difference.

That aside, with this raid being as botched as it was there were some
critical failures in both intelligence and decision making at the highest
level. Those units don't act unless they have very very very recent
(sometimes to the minute) info unless told otherwise. Several things went
wrong, no doubt, and some of that squarely falls on Trump. I don't care if
he's your guy or if he's not, I don't give a damn. The go call in this
instance was the wrong one.

On Feb 28, 2017 7:10 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I never said all, I said all I know, limited to probably around fifty,
> only one is lt colonel in airforce reserves so no high ranking, and only
> two special forces limited to Rangers, the rest all being regular
> personnel, so not a great representation of the WHOLE military, but given
> the mindset amongst them I'd venture a guess without much apprehension that
> they are a pretty good representation of the military overall.
>
> On Feb 28, 2017 7:02 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> You think all military active and veterans like Trump?  WowTrump was
> right about one thing.. he could kill someone in Times Square, and you'd
> say it okayI don't get it ...My critical mind is trying to understand
> this blind faith in him... Almost like Jim Jones...Damn
>
> On Feb 28, 2017 5:49 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Can't go with that when it came to our capabilities and mission
>> objectives the last guy was mouth in chief. This admin didn't want any
>> military plans made public ever.
>> I'd like to think at the end of the day this was just a mission that
>> turned shitshow fast on its own. It is an insult to call it poor planning
>> considering that's saying the mission training over the last 3 months
>> wasn't taken seriously by the SEAL team.
>> I personally wouldn't be at all suprised if the community organizer in
>> chief had his minions leak the details. Or one of his antifa terrorist
>> friends still embedded in the administration did so. All to do what was
>> done, discredit the current administration. Every currently serving and
>> veteran military personnel I know, with hehe exception of Josh here,
>> supports trump and understands what went down in this mission was what it
>> was and wants the same as I do from the people responsible if there was a
>> leak.
>> Even their lost  brother in arms brother is a seal and hasn't said
>> anything negative (though that may be a limitation of his status)
>>
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2017 6:35 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Might be simpler than that. Could just be a few idiots in the new admin
>>> that don't know how to keep their traps shut. His Orangeness doesn't seem
>>> to connect the dots very well himself. He thought the conversations that
>>> Flynn was having with the Russians were a good thing.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, Februar

Re: [AFMUG] tornadoes

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

I have sick days if need be btw. And a tower crew available after Friday (I
don't know how free $$$ they are, they aren't my guys)
I'm not being nice, I just know you northbound guys have a lot of DC plant
I want to look at.

On Feb 28, 2017 7:04 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> I found the Ameren outage map, it's nowhere near as good as the ComEd
> map.  But it appears there are power problems in Ottawa.  Bigly.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 6:43 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tornadoes
>
> On 2/28/17 16:41, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
> > I'm sitting here in the country  watching this light show to the north
> > figuring if I was watching your map every flash adds a couple more red
> > dots
> >
>
>
> http://en.blitzortung.org/
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for SEAL's death in Yemen raid

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

I never said all, I said all I know, limited to probably around fifty, only
one is lt colonel in airforce reserves so no high ranking, and only two
special forces limited to Rangers, the rest all being regular personnel, so
not a great representation of the WHOLE military, but given the mindset
amongst them I'd venture a guess without much apprehension that they are a
pretty good representation of the military overall.

On Feb 28, 2017 7:02 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

You think all military active and veterans like Trump?  WowTrump was
right about one thing.. he could kill someone in Times Square, and you'd
say it okayI don't get it ...My critical mind is trying to understand
this blind faith in him... Almost like Jim Jones...Damn

On Feb 28, 2017 5:49 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Can't go with that when it came to our capabilities and mission objectives
> the last guy was mouth in chief. This admin didn't want any military plans
> made public ever.
> I'd like to think at the end of the day this was just a mission that
> turned shitshow fast on its own. It is an insult to call it poor planning
> considering that's saying the mission training over the last 3 months
> wasn't taken seriously by the SEAL team.
> I personally wouldn't be at all suprised if the community organizer in
> chief had his minions leak the details. Or one of his antifa terrorist
> friends still embedded in the administration did so. All to do what was
> done, discredit the current administration. Every currently serving and
> veteran military personnel I know, with hehe exception of Josh here,
> supports trump and understands what went down in this mission was what it
> was and wants the same as I do from the people responsible if there was a
> leak.
> Even their lost  brother in arms brother is a seal and hasn't said
> anything negative (though that may be a limitation of his status)
>
>
> On Feb 28, 2017 6:35 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Might be simpler than that. Could just be a few idiots in the new admin
>> that don't know how to keep their traps shut. His Orangeness doesn't seem
>> to connect the dots very well himself. He thought the conversations that
>> Flynn was having with the Russians were a good thing.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:25 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Who benefits from the leak?
>>
>>1. ISIS
>>2. Enemies of Trump/GOP/USA
>>
>> ISIS probably did not leak to themselves.
>>
>> So what does that leave us with?
>>
>> Apply Occam's razor.
>>
>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:47 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals
>> for SEAL's death in Yemen raid
>>
>> Exactly, thats why the dad didnt need to request an investigation, it is
>> being investigated
>>
>> He should have not addressed that during the softball interview and
>> waited til tonights address with a prepared speech
>>
>> but this is going to have a shit ton of fallout
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>> The person to blame is the one that leaked details of the action to the
>> bad guys.
>> They walked into a setup.  This was long planned under Obama.
>>
>> How do you not know that Obama did not leak it to make Trump look bad?
>> Or Hillary?
>>
>> Somebody in the know leaked it.
>>
>> He blamed our military.  He is the Commander.  Therefore he is blaming
>> himself irrespective of his words.
>> The guy certainly has no grace or class when it comes to things like
>> this.  He needs a bit of “the buck stops here” but he is just the
>> opposite.
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:29 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for
>> SEAL's death in Yemen raid
>>
>> https://news.google.com/news/ amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%
>> 2Fthehill.com%2Fpolicy% 2Fdefense%2F321614-trump-
>> appears-to-place-blame-on- generals-for-seal-killed-in-
>> yemen-raid%3Famp#pt0-72526
>> <https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fpolicy%2Fdefense%2F321614-trump-appears-to-place-blame-on-generals-for-seal-killed-in-yemen-raid%3Famp#pt0-72526>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for SEAL's death in Yemen raid

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

It was never his GOP, if you didn't notice he had three elections going at
once between the dems, the GOP, and the media.
Schumer is out running his mouth right now saying trumps bang turned into
into a wimper and nothings happenned since the inauguration.  I assume that
kool-aid tastes good though. BTW you're at like 6 recipes today

On Feb 28, 2017 6:57 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I guess if we don't swallow Trumps bullshit we are enemies?  Any sentient
> person knows betterI don't drink any ones Kool aide .His own GOP is
> divided...Three different narratives. Honestly, even when Nixon and
> friends lied and got nailed, it was not this bad.  Trump gave himself an
> A   The GOP is praying he doesn't talk about his great electoral win
> again...He is going to attack immigrantsLook at his guestsWhy not
> parents of those killed unjustly by cops, or family members of those in
> church murdered by Roof?  He is selling gents... That's what he does...
>
> On Feb 28, 2017 5:32 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
>> Missing the point...He blamed others.. you'd think Reagan would blame
>> others...Leaks are bad...I am more afraid of Dodo and his Motley bunch
>> leaking some sensitive information.   Can not call it any other wayHe
>> threw them under the bus.. Period..
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2017 5:39 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Trump had nothing to do with this mission but considering that Obama
>>> supporters are not above treason to make their political goals, that’s
>>> where I’d be starting.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 5:35 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals
>>> for SEAL's death in Yemen raid
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Might be simpler than that. Could just be a few idiots in the new admin
>>> that don't know how to keep their traps shut. His Orangeness doesn't seem
>>> to connect the dots very well himself. He thought the conversations that
>>> Flynn was having with the Russians were a good thing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:25 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Who benefits from the leak?
>>>
>>>1. ISIS
>>>2. Enemies of Trump/GOP/USA
>>>
>>> ISIS probably did not leak to themselves.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So what does that leave us with?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Apply Occam's razor.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:47 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals
>>> for SEAL's death in Yemen raid
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Exactly, thats why the dad didnt need to request an investigation, it is
>>> being investigated
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> He should have not addressed that during the softball interview and
>>> waited til tonights address with a prepared speech
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> but this is going to have a shit ton of fallout
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The person to blame is the one that leaked details of the action to the
>>> bad guys.
>>>
>>> They walked into a setup.  This was long planned under Obama.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How do you not know that Obama did not leak it to make Trump look bad?
>>> Or Hillary?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Somebody in the know leaked it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> He blamed our military.  He is the Commander.  Therefore he is blaming
>>> himself irrespective of his words.
>>>
>>> The guy certainly has no grace or class when it comes to things like
>>> this.  He needs a bit of “the buck stops here” but he is just the
>>> opposite.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:29 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>>
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for
>>> SEAL's death in Yemen raid
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://news.google.com/news/ amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%
>>> 2Fthehill.com%2Fpolicy% 2Fdefense%2F321614-trump-
>>> appears-to-place-blame-on- generals-for-seal-killed-in-
>>> yemen-raid%3Famp#pt0-72526
>>> <https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fpolicy%2Fdefense%2F321614-trump-appears-to-place-blame-on-generals-for-seal-killed-in-yemen-raid%3Famp#pt0-72526>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] tornadoes

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

That cell that looks like it's sitting north of dwight  has a massive
downdraft in it everytime the lightning flashes. There's no way a tornado
isn't going to come out of that. I thought it was a tornado when I saw it,
it's been there for about ten minutes

On Feb 28, 2017 6:43 PM, "Seth Mattinen" <se...@rollernet.us> wrote:

> On 2/28/17 16:41, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
>> I'm sitting here in the country  watching this light show to the north
>> figuring if I was watching your map every flash adds a couple more red
>> dots
>>
>>
>
> http://en.blitzortung.org/
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for SEAL's death in Yemen raid

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Can't go with that when it came to our capabilities and mission objectives
the last guy was mouth in chief. This admin didn't want any military plans
made public ever.
I'd like to think at the end of the day this was just a mission that turned
shitshow fast on its own. It is an insult to call it poor planning
considering that's saying the mission training over the last 3 months
wasn't taken seriously by the SEAL team.
I personally wouldn't be at all suprised if the community organizer in
chief had his minions leak the details. Or one of his antifa terrorist
friends still embedded in the administration did so. All to do what was
done, discredit the current administration. Every currently serving and
veteran military personnel I know, with hehe exception of Josh here,
supports trump and understands what went down in this mission was what it
was and wants the same as I do from the people responsible if there was a
leak.
Even their lost  brother in arms brother is a seal and hasn't said anything
negative (though that may be a limitation of his status)


On Feb 28, 2017 6:35 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Might be simpler than that. Could just be a few idiots in the new admin
> that don't know how to keep their traps shut. His Orangeness doesn't seem
> to connect the dots very well himself. He thought the conversations that
> Flynn was having with the Russians were a good thing.
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:25 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Who benefits from the leak?
>
>1. ISIS
>2. Enemies of Trump/GOP/USA
>
> ISIS probably did not leak to themselves.
>
> So what does that leave us with?
>
> Apply Occam's razor.
>
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:47 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for
> SEAL's death in Yemen raid
>
> Exactly, thats why the dad didnt need to request an investigation, it is
> being investigated
>
> He should have not addressed that during the softball interview and waited
> til tonights address with a prepared speech
>
> but this is going to have a shit ton of fallout
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> The person to blame is the one that leaked details of the action to the
> bad guys.
> They walked into a setup.  This was long planned under Obama.
>
> How do you not know that Obama did not leak it to make Trump look bad?  Or
> Hillary?
>
> Somebody in the know leaked it.
>
> He blamed our military.  He is the Commander.  Therefore he is blaming
> himself irrespective of his words.
> The guy certainly has no grace or class when it comes to things like
> this.  He needs a bit of “the buck stops here” but he is just the
> opposite.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:29 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for
> SEAL's death in Yemen raid
>
> https://news.google.com/news/ amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%
> 2Fthehill.com%2Fpolicy% 2Fdefense%2F321614-trump-
> appears-to-place-blame-on- generals-for-seal-killed-in-
> yemen-raid%3Famp#pt0-72526
> <https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fpolicy%2Fdefense%2F321614-trump-appears-to-place-blame-on-generals-for-seal-killed-in-yemen-raid%3Famp#pt0-72526>
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] tornadoes

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

I'm sitting here in the country  watching this light show to the north
figuring if I was watching your map every flash adds a couple more red dots

On Feb 28, 2017 6:17 PM, "George Skorup" <george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:

> OMG 24GHz sucks
>
> On 2/28/2017 6:03 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> My area goes almost as far south as Ottawa.  I have a handful of customers
> in Sheridan/Serena/Ottawa area down on monitoring, but no way to tell how
> many just lost power.  No calls yet.  Many times they all come back over
> the next 24 hours as their power is restored.  On the other hand, they may
> call days later and bitch “is the tower still down?”
>
>
>
> There are also the people who run around unplugging everything when a
> storm approaches.
>
>
>
> I saw a photo posted of some large hail from Ottawa, so we might also have
> some CPE that got bonked.  Tornados, lightning, hail, all bad things.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *That One Guy /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 5:45 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] tornadoes
>
>
>
> who covers naplate ottowa, isnt that you ken?
>
>
> Illinois Storm Chasers
> <https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE=nf>
>
> 1 min
> <https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/photos/a.152805318122767.37220.152571701479462/1396230087113611/?type=3>
>  ·
>
> Major, major damage in and around Naplate/Ottawa area. This was NOT what I
> wanted to see. Take these storms seriously
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:41 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Illinois Storm Chasers
> <https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE=nf>
>
> 3 mins
> <https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/posts/1396227050447248> ·
>
> Tornado warning for La Salle and Livingston County until 6:15! A confirmed
> tornado was located in Washburn moving east at 45 MPH
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:28 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Illinois Storm Chasers
> <https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE=nf>
>
> 5 mins
> <https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/photos/a.152805318122767.37220.152571701479462/1396211347115485/?type=3>
>  ·
>
> Tornado near the NW side of Morris! Moving into the southwest suburbs! Do
> NOT take this storm lightly!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
> WGN weather blog states tornado over Ottawa about 30 minutes ago, also 2
> inch hail.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 5:21 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] tornadoes
>
>
>
> in the last 4 minutes
>
>
>
> Dangerous tornado producing storm very near Morris moving east/northeast
> at 35 MPH!
>
>
>
> Sirens are in minooka
>
> Sirens Just went off in Oswego
>
> Sirens in Coal City
>
> Sirens in Morris
>
> Sirens going off in Plano
>
> Sirens in Shorewood
>
> Sirens are still going off in Morris. LOTS of lightening
>
> sirens are going off now in Joliet/ Plainfield area
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Keep us posted..
>
>
>
> On Feb 28, 2017 4:14 PM, "George Skorup" <george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>
> I hate my life
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] tornadoes

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

ottowa images is looking pretty bad, naplate doesnt sound like it faired
much better
my cousin just posted a pic of the tornado on the other side of her tree
line, looks pretty big

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 6:08 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I  just had my roof done, my son's and one of my daughters as
> well.Winds gusting to 70.. Hope they hold upYou guys be
> careful, you hear?
>
> On Feb 28, 2017 5:03 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
>> My area goes almost as far south as Ottawa.  I have a handful of
>> customers in Sheridan/Serena/Ottawa area down on monitoring, but no way to
>> tell how many just lost power.  No calls yet.  Many times they all come
>> back over the next 24 hours as their power is restored.  On the other hand,
>> they may call days later and bitch “is the tower still down?”
>>
>>
>>
>> There are also the people who run around unplugging everything when a
>> storm approaches.
>>
>>
>>
>> I saw a photo posted of some large hail from Ottawa, so we might also
>> have some CPE that got bonked.  Tornados, lightning, hail, all bad things.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
>> /sarcasm
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 5:45 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] tornadoes
>>
>>
>>
>> who covers naplate ottowa, isnt that you ken?
>>
>>
>> Illinois Storm Chasers
>> <https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE=nf>
>>
>> 1 min
>> <https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/photos/a.152805318122767.37220.152571701479462/1396230087113611/?type=3>
>>  ·
>>
>> Major, major damage in and around Naplate/Ottawa area. This was NOT what
>> I wanted to see. Take these storms seriously
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:41 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Illinois Storm Chasers
>> <https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE=nf>
>>
>> 3 mins
>> <https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/posts/1396227050447248> ·
>>
>> Tornado warning for La Salle and Livingston County until 6:15! A
>> confirmed tornado was located in Washburn moving east at 45 MPH
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:28 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Illinois Storm Chasers
>> <https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE=nf>
>>
>> 5 mins
>> <https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/photos/a.152805318122767.37220.152571701479462/1396211347115485/?type=3>
>>  ·
>>
>> Tornado near the NW side of Morris! Moving into the southwest suburbs! Do
>> NOT take this storm lightly!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>
>> WGN weather blog states tornado over Ottawa about 30 minutes ago, also 2
>> inch hail.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
>> /sarcasm
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 5:21 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] tornadoes
>>
>>
>>
>> in the last 4 minutes
>>
>>
>>
>> Dangerous tornado producing storm very near Morris moving east/northeast
>> at 35 MPH!
>>
>>
>>
>> Sirens are in minooka
>>
>> Sirens Just went off in Oswego
>>
>> Sirens in Coal City
>>
>> Sirens in Morris
>>
>> Sirens going off in Plano
>>
>> Sirens in Shorewood
>>
>> Sirens are still going off in Morris. LOTS of lightening
>>
>> sirens are going off now in Joliet/ Plainfield area
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Keep us posted..
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2017 4:14 PM, "George Skorup" <george.sko...@cbcast.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I hate my life
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for SEAL's death in Yemen raid

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

think about the excerpts of the interview
there were statements made that wouldnt have been made if there werent
something behind them

I dont care whos team theyre playing for, if there was a leak, and it seems
there was, that person or persons needs executed publicly after a blacksite
interrogation. Everyone involved, blacksite and execute. pay the settlements

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 6:02 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Really Obama or Hillary leaked details to terrorists?  Trumps white house
> is leakyhis own team ...Now that's alternativeneed to get home and
> drink a Tecate..Then my outlook will be numbStill doesn't fly with
> me
>
> On Feb 28, 2017 4:44 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
>> The person to blame is the one that leaked details of the action to the
>> bad guys.
>> They walked into a setup.  This was long planned under Obama.
>>
>> How do you not know that Obama did not leak it to make Trump look bad?
>> Or Hillary?
>>
>> Somebody in the know leaked it.
>>
>> He blamed our military.  He is the Commander.  Therefore he is blaming
>> himself irrespective of his words.
>> The guy certainly has no grace or class when it comes to things like
>> this.  He needs a bit of “the buck stops here” but he is just the
>> opposite.
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:29 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for
>> SEAL's death in Yemen raid
>>
>> https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fthehill.
>> com%2Fpolicy%2Fdefense%2F321614-trump-appears-to-
>> place-blame-on-generals-for-seal-killed-in-yemen-raid%3Famp#pt0-72526
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Chia Trump?

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

nah, if it didnt have something slick it had no value
theyre literally selling broken mannequins with some yellow thread on the
crotch
libs are cash machines for petty stuff

youll always have the anti whateaver propaganda

but libs are literally paying extra money for anti trump mexican food
in protest
you have to remember, they always want to be part of something
and capitalists will always provide something

literally
like literally

but to agree a little, we do buy the shit out of shirts that simply say
"literally" but thats actually got some humor to it, its like wearing a
shirt that says "fuck you liberal" and nine times out of ten they dont even
know theyre being insulted

we do some stupid shit too, like buy the hell out of harry potter to burn
it (shes a true capitalist, even if an utter hypocrite)

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Chris Wright <ch...@velociter.net> wrote:

> The same marketers made bank off of conservatives for the last eight years
> with all those “Nobama” and “Obummer” bumper stickers.
>
>
>
> Chris Wright
>
> Network Administrator
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 4:41 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Chia Trump?
>
>
>
> There is so much money being made off liberals hatred for trump right now.
> You can put anything out there with a negative tone toward trump for sale,
> they'll gobble it up. Maga toilet paper is particularly popular.
>
> Depending on your customer base, if it's predominately liberal, you could
> double your price on a fuck trump package, exactly the same as it is now,
> just with the words fuck trump and a disclaimer that it's not for trump
> supporters. Granted you'd have to only cover the geographically tiny
> pockets of liberal voters
>
>
>
> On Feb 27, 2017 5:36 PM, "Nate Burke" <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>
> I heard radio ads for them around the election.�
>
> Cha Cha Cha Chia!
>
> On 2/27/2017 5:19 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> Are these for real, or more fake news?� I haven�t seen them in stores.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Chia-Freedom-Choice-Donald-Trump/dp/B01F9P70YE
>
> �
>
>
>
>
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] gbit syncinjector voltage

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Forrest, you are the man

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> They're fine at 48vdc.  That label has more to do with the fact that they
> were originally designed for radios which only took 30v max
>
> On Feb 28, 2017 10:27 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> we pulled a rev H1 gigabit syncinjector from service and put in a power
>> injector for epmp
>> to be certain, it is limited to the 30v on the label or would i be able
>> to run 48 for epmp and get away with it. I hate to toss it in the trash
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for SEAL's death in Yemen raid

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Exactly, thats why the dad didnt need to request an investigation, it is
being investigated

He should have not addressed that during the softball interview and waited
til tonights address with a prepared speech

but this is going to have a shit ton of fallout

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> The person to blame is the one that leaked details of the action to the
> bad guys.
> They walked into a setup.  This was long planned under Obama.
>
> How do you not know that Obama did not leak it to make Trump look bad?  Or
> Hillary?
>
> Somebody in the know leaked it.
>
> He blamed our military.  He is the Commander.  Therefore he is blaming
> himself irrespective of his words.
> The guy certainly has no grace or class when it comes to things like
> this.  He needs a bit of “the buck stops here” but he is just the
> opposite.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:29 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for
> SEAL's death in Yemen raid
>
> https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fpolicy%
> 2Fdefense%2F321614-trump-appears-to-place-blame-on-
> generals-for-seal-killed-in-yemen-raid%3Famp#pt0-72526
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] tornadoes

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

who covers naplate ottowa, isnt that you ken?

Illinois Storm Chasers
<https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE=nf>
1 min
<https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/photos/a.152805318122767.37220.152571701479462/1396230087113611/?type=3>
 ·  <https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/#>

Major, major damage in and around Naplate/Ottawa area. This was NOT what I
wanted to see. Take these storms seriously

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:41 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Illinois Storm Chasers
> <https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE=nf>
> 3 mins
> <https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/posts/1396227050447248> ·
> <https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/#>
>
> Tornado warning for La Salle and Livingston County until 6:15! A confirmed
> tornado was located in Washburn moving east at 45 MPH
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:28 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Illinois Storm Chasers
>> <https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE=nf>
>> 5 mins
>> <https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/photos/a.152805318122767.37220.152571701479462/1396211347115485/?type=3>
>>  ·  <https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED#>
>>
>> Tornado near the NW side of Morris! Moving into the southwest suburbs! Do
>> NOT take this storm lightly!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>
>>> WGN weather blog states tornado over Ottawa about 30 minutes ago, also 2
>>> inch hail.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
>>> /sarcasm
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 5:21 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] tornadoes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> in the last 4 minutes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dangerous tornado producing storm very near Morris moving east/northeast
>>> at 35 MPH!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sirens are in minooka
>>>
>>> Sirens Just went off in Oswego
>>>
>>> Sirens in Coal City
>>>
>>> Sirens in Morris
>>>
>>> Sirens going off in Plano
>>>
>>> Sirens in Shorewood
>>>
>>> Sirens are still going off in Morris. LOTS of lightening
>>>
>>> sirens are going off now in Joliet/ Plainfield area
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Keep us posted..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 28, 2017 4:14 PM, "George Skorup" <george.sko...@cbcast.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I hate my life
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fake News

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

like I said, more to come
not good either

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Nope...I would have actually respected him if he handled like other
> presidents.   He blamed others...That is chicken shit in my book...Goes to
> his core character...none
>
> On Feb 28, 2017 4:30 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> might want to hold back that rhetoric a bit, there is more to come
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Dumbfuck blaming generals and Obama for Owens death.. that's chicken
>>> shit, no matter how you cut itBush, Reagan, Obama and Truman took
>>> responsibility...Not this jerk...Wait for his dog and pony show..Calgon
>>> take him away
>>>
>>> On Feb 28, 2017 3:16 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Prairie cats?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
>>>> /sarcasm
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:10 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Fake News
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I used to have a cat the hallucinated, he was pretty cool, I dont think
>>>> he was schizo tho
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 9:26 AM, Jon Bruce <
>>>> jbruce-af...@ptpbroadband.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I can associate my cats with several psychotic experiences.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/28/2017 10:21 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> *ODD NEWS*
>>>>
>>>> *No evidence that cats cause schizophrenia, study says*
>>>>
>>>> Some scientists say they think pet cats might increase a kid’s risk of
>>>> developing schizophrenia. But there’s good news out of this growing field
>>>> of research, which focuses on the links between a cat- borne parasite that
>>>> causes toxoplasmosis and mental health disorders. A new study published in
>>>> the journal Psychological Medicine of about 5,000 children in Britain found
>>>> no evidence that cat ownership during gestation or childhood was associated
>>>> with psychotic experiences that can be early signs of mental illness— such
>>>> as hallucinations or delusions of being spied on— when they were teenagers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] tornadoes

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Illinois Storm Chasers
<https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE=nf>
3 mins <https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/posts/1396227050447248>
 ·  <https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/#>

Tornado warning for La Salle and Livingston County until 6:15! A confirmed
tornado was located in Washburn moving east at 45 MPH

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:28 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Illinois Storm Chasers
> <https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE=nf>
> 5 mins
> <https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/photos/a.152805318122767.37220.152571701479462/1396211347115485/?type=3>
>  ·  <https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED#>
>
> Tornado near the NW side of Morris! Moving into the southwest suburbs! Do
> NOT take this storm lightly!
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
>> WGN weather blog states tornado over Ottawa about 30 minutes ago, also 2
>> inch hail.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
>> /sarcasm
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 5:21 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] tornadoes
>>
>>
>>
>> in the last 4 minutes
>>
>>
>>
>> Dangerous tornado producing storm very near Morris moving east/northeast
>> at 35 MPH!
>>
>>
>>
>> Sirens are in minooka
>>
>> Sirens Just went off in Oswego
>>
>> Sirens in Coal City
>>
>> Sirens in Morris
>>
>> Sirens going off in Plano
>>
>> Sirens in Shorewood
>>
>> Sirens are still going off in Morris. LOTS of lightening
>>
>> sirens are going off now in Joliet/ Plainfield area
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Keep us posted..
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2017 4:14 PM, "George Skorup" <george.sko...@cbcast.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I hate my life
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fake News

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

might want to hold back that rhetoric a bit, there is more to come

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dumbfuck blaming generals and Obama for Owens death.. that's chicken shit,
> no matter how you cut itBush, Reagan, Obama and Truman took
> responsibility...Not this jerk...Wait for his dog and pony show..Calgon
> take him away
>
> On Feb 28, 2017 3:16 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
>> Prairie cats?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
>> /sarcasm
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:10 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Fake News
>>
>>
>>
>> I used to have a cat the hallucinated, he was pretty cool, I dont think
>> he was schizo tho
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 9:26 AM, Jon Bruce <jbruce-af...@ptpbroadband.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I can associate my cats with several psychotic experiences.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/28/2017 10:21 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> *ODD NEWS*
>>
>> *No evidence that cats cause schizophrenia, study says*
>>
>> Some scientists say they think pet cats might increase a kid’s risk of
>> developing schizophrenia. But there’s good news out of this growing field
>> of research, which focuses on the links between a cat- borne parasite that
>> causes toxoplasmosis and mental health disorders. A new study published in
>> the journal Psychological Medicine of about 5,000 children in Britain found
>> no evidence that cat ownership during gestation or childhood was associated
>> with psychotic experiences that can be early signs of mental illness— such
>> as hallucinations or delusions of being spied on— when they were teenagers.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] tornadoes

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Illinois Storm Chasers
<https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE=nf>
5 mins
<https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/photos/a.152805318122767.37220.152571701479462/1396211347115485/?type=3>
 ·  <https://www.facebook.com/illinoisstormchaser/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED#>

Tornado near the NW side of Morris! Moving into the southwest suburbs! Do
NOT take this storm lightly!




On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> WGN weather blog states tornado over Ottawa about 30 minutes ago, also 2
> inch hail.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 5:21 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] tornadoes
>
>
>
> in the last 4 minutes
>
>
>
> Dangerous tornado producing storm very near Morris moving east/northeast
> at 35 MPH!
>
>
>
> Sirens are in minooka
>
> Sirens Just went off in Oswego
>
> Sirens in Coal City
>
> Sirens in Morris
>
> Sirens going off in Plano
>
> Sirens in Shorewood
>
> Sirens are still going off in Morris. LOTS of lightening
>
> sirens are going off now in Joliet/ Plainfield area
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Keep us posted..
>
>
>
> On Feb 28, 2017 4:14 PM, "George Skorup" <george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>
> I hate my life
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Test. 1 2 3

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

i figured the amazon outage had us
that was me btw

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 4:07 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Is thing on?
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] tornadoes

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

in the last 4 minutes

Dangerous tornado producing storm very near Morris moving east/northeast at
35 MPH!

Sirens are in minooka
Sirens Just went off in Oswego
Sirens in Coal City
Sirens in Morris
Sirens going off in Plano
Sirens in Shorewood
Sirens are still going off in Morris. LOTS of lightening
sirens are going off now in Joliet/ Plainfield area


On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Keep us posted..
>
> On Feb 28, 2017 4:14 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:
>
>> I hate my life
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] 24GHz

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

and what do you mean by backup?
are you talking maintenance backup or fade/path loss backup?

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

> Ubnt af24 HD
>
> Where is this link? We cant go 1.8 miles
>
> On 2/28/17, 6:05 PM, "Af on behalf of Dan Petermann" 
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> on behalf of d...@wyoming.com> wrote:
>
> >Who has the highest capacity 24Ghz radios?
> >
> >A customer is wanting a 1.8 mile link 1Gbs full duplex link as a back up.
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] tornadoes

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

nope, not gonna happen
or is it up there?

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:14 PM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> I hate my life
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] YouTube TV

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

isnt that what kodi is for?

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> https://tv.youtube.com/welcome/
>
> Interesting...
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

[AFMUG] gbit syncinjector voltage

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

we pulled a rev H1 gigabit syncinjector from service and put in a power
injector for epmp
to be certain, it is limited to the 30v on the label or would i be able to
run 48 for epmp and get away with it. I hate to toss it in the trash

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fake News

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

ha, rewiring is the point. psychedelics offer a lot more than a fun ride

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Carlos Castaneda was a fake...Try a sweat bath...More beneficial and won't
> rewire your brain.
>
> On Feb 28, 2017 9:50 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> is mescaline even an available thing these days? I always wanted to try
>> that, it was around a couple times in highschool, but the crowds were never
>> right, that stuff needed a spirit guide
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Jaime Solorza <
>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Admission part was on LSD/acid reference from Sarcasm!!
>>>
>>> On Feb 28, 2017 9:41 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was always too chicken to try it.  Ethanol was my drug of choice back
>>>> in those years.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 9:39 AM
>>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Fake News
>>>>
>>>> Wow that admission explains allotAnd mescaline?, dating yourself
>>>> ChuckThese kids probably had to look that up of GoogleAye Dios
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 28, 2017 9:23 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> we had pretty copacetic relationships with surrounding animals when we
>>>>> ate little squares of paper. we even dosed the fish once.
>>>>> but my cat chubs, he was the shit, he would somehow know if i was
>>>>> under that chemical and hang out until i gave him one, then he would just
>>>>> chill and stare at me. he was a good cat
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> When I was in high school, a couple of the local stoners gave their
>>>>>> cat mescaline.  It orbited the room on the walls.  I could understand how
>>>>>> it could have stayed up there if the room was circular but it was a 
>>>>>> normal
>>>>>> square room.  Womehow the cat was able to run around it on the walls.  
>>>>>> They
>>>>>> would routinely put that same can in a bread sack and blow pot smoke into
>>>>>> the sack.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Worst thing I ever did to cats was to fill their water dish with
>>>>>> beer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 9:09 AM
>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Fake News
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I used to have a cat the hallucinated, he was pretty cool, I dont
>>>>>> think he was schizo tho
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 9:26 AM, Jon Bruce <
>>>>>> jbruce-af...@ptpbroadband.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can associate my cats with several psychotic experiences.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/28/2017 10:21 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *ODD NEWS*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *No evidence that cats cause schizophrenia, study says*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some scientists say they think pet cats might increase a kid’s risk
>>>>>>> of developing schizophrenia. But there’s good news out of this growing
>>>>>>> field of research, which focuses on the links between a cat- borne 
>>>>>>> parasite
>>>>>>> that causes toxoplasmosis and mental health disorders. A new study
>>>>>>> published in the journal Psychological Medicine of about 5,000 children 
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> Britain found no evidence that cat ownership during gestation or 
>>>>>>> childhood
>>>>>>> was associated with psychotic experiences that can be early signs of 
>>>>>>> mental
>>>>>>> illness— such as hallucinations or delusions of being spied on— when 
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> were teenagers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon Cell Site NOC phone number

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

could you find a registration contact on the frequency search with the fcc?
I assume verizon isnt like us where everything is registered to the same
person though


On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> I think they do regional NOCs.  If you can locate a different tower
> Verizon Wireless is on, I'd check there for the contact #.
>
> Might also check the Facebook groups (TCoA for sure).
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 8:46 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have a good (working) number for Verizon Cell Site NOC?
>>
>>
>>
>> They are on a water tower near me (owned by local government) with no
>> placard on the gate and the contact # the city has is bad.  There are some
>> electrical / grounding problems and their equipment is involved.
>>
>> I need to reach out to them ASAP.
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul McCall, President
>>
>> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>>
>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>
>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>
>> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>>
>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>>
>> www.pdmnet.com
>>
>> www.floridabroadband.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fake News

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

is mescaline even an available thing these days? I always wanted to try
that, it was around a couple times in highschool, but the crowds were never
right, that stuff needed a spirit guide

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Admission part was on LSD/acid reference from Sarcasm!!
>
> On Feb 28, 2017 9:41 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> I was always too chicken to try it.  Ethanol was my drug of choice back
>> in those years.
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 9:39 AM
>> *To:* Animal Farm
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Fake News
>>
>> Wow that admission explains allotAnd mescaline?, dating yourself
>> ChuckThese kids probably had to look that up of GoogleAye Dios
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2017 9:23 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> we had pretty copacetic relationships with surrounding animals when we
>>> ate little squares of paper. we even dosed the fish once.
>>> but my cat chubs, he was the shit, he would somehow know if i was under
>>> that chemical and hang out until i gave him one, then he would just chill
>>> and stare at me. he was a good cat
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> When I was in high school, a couple of the local stoners gave their cat
>>>> mescaline.  It orbited the room on the walls.  I could understand how it
>>>> could have stayed up there if the room was circular but it was a normal
>>>> square room.  Womehow the cat was able to run around it on the walls.  They
>>>> would routinely put that same can in a bread sack and blow pot smoke into
>>>> the sack.
>>>>
>>>> Worst thing I ever did to cats was to fill their water dish with beer.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 9:09 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Fake News
>>>>
>>>> I used to have a cat the hallucinated, he was pretty cool, I dont think
>>>> he was schizo tho
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 9:26 AM, Jon Bruce <
>>>> jbruce-af...@ptpbroadband.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I can associate my cats with several psychotic experiences.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/28/2017 10:21 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> *ODD NEWS*
>>>>>
>>>>> *No evidence that cats cause schizophrenia, study says*
>>>>>
>>>>> Some scientists say they think pet cats might increase a kid’s risk of
>>>>> developing schizophrenia. But there’s good news out of this growing field
>>>>> of research, which focuses on the links between a cat- borne parasite that
>>>>> causes toxoplasmosis and mental health disorders. A new study published in
>>>>> the journal Psychological Medicine of about 5,000 children in Britain 
>>>>> found
>>>>> no evidence that cat ownership during gestation or childhood was 
>>>>> associated
>>>>> with psychotic experiences that can be early signs of mental illness— such
>>>>> as hallucinations or delusions of being spied on— when they were 
>>>>> teenagers.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fake News

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

my other cat, she was a whore anyway, but she freaked out the one time she
hung out went out in the backyard doing backflips, i never really liked her
anyway, she was disinvited to all future soirees. there was a miniature
collie once, he was cool, hung out but acted like he had taken crack, he
sometimes barked at stuff that we couldnt see later on in life, we wondered
if he had a 5th dimensional eye added or something, maybe had a discussion
with god and he gifted it to him, we werent really sure, good dog,
worthless as a guard dog though

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> cat parkour I guess
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 9:19 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Fake News
>
> When I was in high school, a couple of the local stoners gave their cat
> mescaline.  It orbited the room on the walls.  I could understand how it
> could have stayed up there if the room was circular but it was a normal
> square room.  Womehow the cat was able to run around it on the walls.  They
> would routinely put that same can in a bread sack and blow pot smoke into
> the sack.
>
> Worst thing I ever did to cats was to fill their water dish with beer.
>
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 9:09 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Fake News
>
> I used to have a cat the hallucinated, he was pretty cool, I dont think he
> was schizo tho
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 9:26 AM, Jon Bruce <jbruce-af...@ptpbroadband.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I can associate my cats with several psychotic experiences.
>>
>>
>> On 2/28/2017 10:21 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> *ODD NEWS*
>>
>> *No evidence that cats cause schizophrenia, study says*
>>
>> Some scientists say they think pet cats might increase a kid’s risk of
>> developing schizophrenia. But there’s good news out of this growing field
>> of research, which focuses on the links between a cat- borne parasite that
>> causes toxoplasmosis and mental health disorders. A new study published in
>> the journal Psychological Medicine of about 5,000 children in Britain found
>> no evidence that cat ownership during gestation or childhood was associated
>> with psychotic experiences that can be early signs of mental illness— such
>> as hallucinations or delusions of being spied on— when they were teenagers.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fake News

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

we had pretty copacetic relationships with surrounding animals when we ate
little squares of paper. we even dosed the fish once.
but my cat chubs, he was the shit, he would somehow know if i was under
that chemical and hang out until i gave him one, then he would just chill
and stare at me. he was a good cat

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> When I was in high school, a couple of the local stoners gave their cat
> mescaline.  It orbited the room on the walls.  I could understand how it
> could have stayed up there if the room was circular but it was a normal
> square room.  Womehow the cat was able to run around it on the walls.  They
> would routinely put that same can in a bread sack and blow pot smoke into
> the sack.
>
> Worst thing I ever did to cats was to fill their water dish with beer.
>
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 9:09 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Fake News
>
> I used to have a cat the hallucinated, he was pretty cool, I dont think he
> was schizo tho
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 9:26 AM, Jon Bruce <jbruce-af...@ptpbroadband.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I can associate my cats with several psychotic experiences.
>>
>>
>> On 2/28/2017 10:21 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> *ODD NEWS*
>>
>> *No evidence that cats cause schizophrenia, study says*
>>
>> Some scientists say they think pet cats might increase a kid’s risk of
>> developing schizophrenia. But there’s good news out of this growing field
>> of research, which focuses on the links between a cat- borne parasite that
>> causes toxoplasmosis and mental health disorders. A new study published in
>> the journal Psychological Medicine of about 5,000 children in Britain found
>> no evidence that cat ownership during gestation or childhood was associated
>> with psychotic experiences that can be early signs of mental illness— such
>> as hallucinations or delusions of being spied on— when they were teenagers.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fake News

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

I used to have a cat the hallucinated, he was pretty cool, I dont think he
was schizo tho

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 9:26 AM, Jon Bruce 
wrote:

> I can associate my cats with several psychotic experiences.
>
>
> On 2/28/2017 10:21 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> *ODD NEWS*
>
> *No evidence that cats cause schizophrenia, study says*
>
> Some scientists say they think pet cats might increase a kid’s risk of
> developing schizophrenia. But there’s good news out of this growing field
> of research, which focuses on the links between a cat- borne parasite that
> causes toxoplasmosis and mental health disorders. A new study published in
> the journal Psychological Medicine of about 5,000 children in Britain found
> no evidence that cat ownership during gestation or childhood was associated
> with psychotic experiences that can be early signs of mental illness— such
> as hallucinations or delusions of being spied on— when they were teenagers.
>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Chia Trump?

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

You hang pictures of your friends on a wall and smash candy on the table

On Feb 28, 2017 9:05 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> What’s social media?
>
> *From:* Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 8:50 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Chia Trump?
>
> How else does one get likes on social media without blaring trumpets in
> their own echo chambers?
>
>
>
> On Feb 27, 2017 9:48 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
> Liberal and conservative seem to be labels for “people different from me”.
>
>
>
> If I think back on my day, I can’t think of a single thing I did where
> liberal or conservative mattered.  Why do we obsess so much over political
> affiliation?  Isn’t that what sports teams are for?  So we can mock Packers
> fans as lower life forms?  Are they liberals or conservatives?  Doesn’t
> matter, they’re cheese-eating Packers fans.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 9:18 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Chia Trump?
>
>
>
> You realize you can be a social progressive and economic conservative,
> right?
>
>
>
> You can also be a social conservative and have a leftist economic stance.
>
>
>
> On Feb 27, 2017 8:36 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> look at the sales of stuff with drumpf
>
> even the original Colbert skit, or whoever it was wasnt all that funny in
> terms of comedy, it had a negative tone, so it was laughed at
>
> you see people use the term drumpf constantly, still no humor or insult,
> my grampas last name got a new spelling at ellis island
>
> its actually an insult to immigrants who had to have their identities
> altered to enter the us
>
> but the left doesnt care, they have "make America drumpf again" really not
> humorous, but negative to trump, so libs buy it buy it buy it
>
> anti trump merch: https://www.drumpf.wtf/shop/
>
> cheap dept store discard with a lil yellow hair
> https://www.etsy.com/listing/294535383/make-merkins-great-
> again-drumpf-model
>
>
>
> 145 bucks to wrap yourself in trump https://www.redbubble.com/
> people/lekkerontwerpen/works/21635441-donald-drumpf?p=
> duvet-cover=king (ummm who really wins there)
>
>
>
> 54 bucks, not just a drumpf but even a full Godwin, just to be "witty" and
> unique, just like everyone else https://www.redbubble.com/
> people/willblack/works/21151690-herr-drumpf?p=t-shirt=
> mhoodiez_color=royal_blue=medium_location=front
>
>
>
> 56 bucks and all you get is a Drumpf https://www.redbubble.com/
> people/cooldad420/works/21081855-donald-drumpf-campaign-
> logo?p=t-shirt=mhoodiez_color=royal_blue=
> medium_location=front
>
>
>
> heres the shitwipe, only 5 bucks to really stick it to the man (id
> probably order this to put on the bathroom shelf, i cant lie)
> https://www.etsy.com/listing/263463026/trump-tissue?ref=related-1
>
>
>
> heres 30 bucks of batshit, too much to break down into a single
> description https://noobs.ninja/product/epic-charity-shirt-justice/
>
>
>
> Funny thing is... who do you think gets the dough on most of this
> shit... capitalists
>
>
>
> These libs, always bringing down the system. Big LOLz little lolZ
> everybody got the LoLz
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
> wrote:
>
> You can also get a Chia Obama.
>
> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1V05813
> 209=1_mc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC_mmc=KNC-
> GoogleMKP-PC-_-pla-_-OG+-+Plant+Stands+%26+Hangers-_-9SIA1V0
> 5813209=CPrgwJ_QsdICFQdbhgodZxgOww=aw.ds
>
> Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
>
> How are chia negative?  I love chia haired things more than normal haired
> things.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017, 6:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> There is so much money being made off liberals hatred for trump
> right now. You can put anything out there with a negative tone
> toward trump for sale, they'll gobble it up. Maga toilet paper is
> particularly popular.
> Depending on your customer base, if it's predominately liberal,
> you could double your price on a fuck trump package, exactly the
> same as it is now, just with the words fuck trump and a disclaimer
> that it's not for trump supporters. Granted you'd have to only
> cover the geographically tiny pockets of liberal voters
>
> On Feb 27, 2017 5:36 PM, "Nat

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

How will that identify unroutable IP space?

On Feb 28, 2017 1:55 AM, "Rob Genovesi" <r...@corp.coastside.net> wrote:

Create a firewall address list of all known good subnets.
Create a forwarding rule in your firewall to accept known good subnets
to forward from customer side to WAN side
Create a forwarding rule to drop everything else coming from customer
side to WAN side

/ip firewall address-list add list="customer" address="x.x.x.x/x"
/ip firewall address-list add list="customer" address="y.y.y.y/y"
/ip firewall filter add chain=forward src-address-list="customers"
in-interface="LAN" out-interface="WAN" action="accept"
/ip firewall filter add chain=forward in-interface="LAN"
out-interface="WAN" action="drop"

You could start with a logging rule for unknown traffic first and
watch for what pops up.


-Rob


On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 2:18 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Im mainly looking for IP space that shouldnt be present, DHCP or not.
> I can packet sniff and exclude all configured subnets on that bridge, but
> its a pain
> I didnt know if there was arp monitor or something along those lines.
> collecting gratuitous ARPs or something like that
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Chia Trump?

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Us citizen 35 years of age

On Feb 28, 2017 7:22 AM, "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Interesting analogy.  I can call Trump an unqualified fool for the same
> reason I can call a duck "a duck".
> His most beloved characteristic is being an asshole to everyone.  Electing
> him was like throwing a brick through a window at the capitol.
>
> Go ahead and call me a libtard or whatever you want.  You'll be wrong, and
> that's ok.  It's a free country and you're allowed to be wrong.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 2/27/2017 10:39:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Chia Trump?
>
>
> On Feb 27, 2017 9:33 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> i can call my crank a weaved basket too, though I dont think I would want
>> to keep apples in it.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You realize you can be a social progressive and economic conservative,
>>> right?
>>>
>>> You can also be a social conservative and have a leftist economic stance.
>>>
>>> On Feb 27, 2017 8:36 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> look at the sales of stuff with drumpf
>>>> even the original Colbert skit, or whoever it was wasnt all that funny
>>>> in terms of comedy, it had a negative tone, so it was laughed at
>>>> you see people use the term drumpf constantly, still no humor or
>>>> insult, my grampas last name got a new spelling at ellis island
>>>> its actually an insult to immigrants who had to have their identities
>>>> altered to enter the us
>>>> but the left doesnt care, they have "make America drumpf again" really
>>>> not humorous, but negative to trump, so libs buy it buy it buy it
>>>> anti trump merch: https://www.drumpf.wtf/shop/
>>>> cheap dept store discard with a lil yellow hair
>>>> https://www.etsy.com/listing/294535383/make-merkins-gre
>>>> at-again-drumpf-model
>>>>
>>>> 145 bucks to wrap yourself in trump https://www.redbubble.co
>>>> m/people/lekkerontwerpen/works/21635441-donald-drumpf?p=duve
>>>> t-cover=king (ummm who really wins there)
>>>>
>>>> 54 bucks, not just a drumpf but even a full Godwin, just to be "witty"
>>>> and unique, just like everyone else https://www.redbubble.com
>>>> /people/willblack/works/21151690-herr-drumpf?p=t-shirt
>>>> =mhoodiez_color=royal_blue=medium_location=front
>>>>
>>>> 56 bucks and all you get is a Drumpf https://www.redbubble.c
>>>> om/people/cooldad420/works/21081855-donald-drumpf-campaign-l
>>>> ogo?p=t-shirt=mhoodiez_color=royal_blue=medi
>>>> um_location=front
>>>>
>>>> heres the shitwipe, only 5 bucks to really stick it to the man (id
>>>>  probably order this to put on the bathroom shelf, i cant lie)
>>>> https://www.etsy.com/listing/263463026/trump-tissue?ref=related-1
>>>>
>>>> heres 30 bucks of batshit, too much to break down into a single
>>>> description https://noobs.ninja/product/epic-charity-shirt-justice/
>>>>
>>>> Funny thing is... who do you think gets the dough on most of this
>>>> shit... capitalists
>>>>
>>>> These libs, always bringing down the system. Big LOLz little lolZ
>>>> everybody got the LoLz
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You can also get a Chia Obama.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1V05813
>>>>> 209=1_mc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC_mmc=KNC-GoogleMKP-
>>>>> PC-_-pla-_-OG+-+Plant+Stands+%26+Hangers-_-9SIA1V05813209
>>>>> lid=CPrgwJ_QsdICFQdbhgodZxgOww=aw.ds
>>>>>
>>>>> Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How are chia negative?  I love chia haired things more than normal
>>>>>> haired things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017, 6:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>&g

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Chia Trump?

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

lol, I like it when people think they know why trolls troll and the purpose
underlying it. that author gave it a good shot though

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 10:14 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
wrote:

> While others just make memes.
>
> https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/09/
> revenge-of-the-nerds/501344/
>
> On Feb 27, 2017 9:53 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> CNN buys them
>> Cliches and buzzwords help
>> denial is always a good start
>>
>> and accidental likes, the facbook app is sensitive when scrolling
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 9:50 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How else does one get likes on social media without blaring trumpets in
>>> their own echo chambers?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 27, 2017 9:48 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Liberal and conservative seem to be labels for “people different from
>>> me”.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If I think back on my day, I can’t think of a single thing I did where
>>> liberal or conservative mattered.  Why do we obsess so much over political
>>> affiliation?  Isn’t that what sports teams are for?  So we can mock Packers
>>> fans as lower life forms?  Are they liberals or conservatives?  Doesn’t
>>> matter, they’re cheese-eating Packers fans.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 9:18 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Chia Trump?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You realize you can be a social progressive and economic conservative,
>>> right?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You can also be a social conservative and have a leftist economic stance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 27, 2017 8:36 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> look at the sales of stuff with drumpf
>>>
>>> even the original Colbert skit, or whoever it was wasnt all that funny
>>> in terms of comedy, it had a negative tone, so it was laughed at
>>>
>>> you see people use the term drumpf constantly, still no humor or insult,
>>> my grampas last name got a new spelling at ellis island
>>>
>>> its actually an insult to immigrants who had to have their identities
>>> altered to enter the us
>>>
>>> but the left doesnt care, they have "make America drumpf again" really
>>> not humorous, but negative to trump, so libs buy it buy it buy it
>>>
>>> anti trump merch: https://www.drumpf.wtf/shop/
>>>
>>> cheap dept store discard with a lil yellow hair
>>> https://www.etsy.com/listing/294535383/make-merkins-gre
>>> at-again-drumpf-model
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 145 bucks to wrap yourself in trump https://www.redbubble.co
>>> m/people/lekkerontwerpen/works/21635441-donald-drumpf?p=duve
>>> t-cover=king (ummm who really wins there)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 54 bucks, not just a drumpf but even a full Godwin, just to be "witty"
>>> and unique, just like everyone else https://www.redbubble.com
>>> /people/willblack/works/21151690-herr-drumpf?p=t-shirt
>>> =mhoodiez_color=royal_blue=medium_location=front
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 56 bucks and all you get is a Drumpf https://www.redbubble.c
>>> om/people/cooldad420/works/21081855-donald-drumpf-campaign-l
>>> ogo?p=t-shirt=mhoodiez_color=royal_blue=medi
>>> um_location=front
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> heres the shitwipe, only 5 bucks to really stick it to the man (id
>>>  probably order this to put on the bathroom shelf, i cant lie)
>>> https://www.etsy.com/listing/263463026/trump-tissue?ref=related-1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> heres 30 bucks of batshit, too much to break down into a single
>>> description https://noobs.ninja/product/epic-charity-shirt-justice/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Funny thing is... who do you think gets the dough on most of this
>>> shit... capitalists
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> These libs, always bringing down the system. Big LOLz little lolZ
>>> everybody got the LoLz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Chia Trump?

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

CNN buys them
Cliches and buzzwords help
denial is always a good start

and accidental likes, the facbook app is sensitive when scrolling

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 9:50 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> How else does one get likes on social media without blaring trumpets in
> their own echo chambers?
>
>
>
> On Feb 27, 2017 9:48 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
> Liberal and conservative seem to be labels for “people different from me”.
>
>
>
> If I think back on my day, I can’t think of a single thing I did where
> liberal or conservative mattered.  Why do we obsess so much over political
> affiliation?  Isn’t that what sports teams are for?  So we can mock Packers
> fans as lower life forms?  Are they liberals or conservatives?  Doesn’t
> matter, they’re cheese-eating Packers fans.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 9:18 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Chia Trump?
>
>
>
> You realize you can be a social progressive and economic conservative,
> right?
>
>
>
> You can also be a social conservative and have a leftist economic stance.
>
>
>
> On Feb 27, 2017 8:36 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> look at the sales of stuff with drumpf
>
> even the original Colbert skit, or whoever it was wasnt all that funny in
> terms of comedy, it had a negative tone, so it was laughed at
>
> you see people use the term drumpf constantly, still no humor or insult,
> my grampas last name got a new spelling at ellis island
>
> its actually an insult to immigrants who had to have their identities
> altered to enter the us
>
> but the left doesnt care, they have "make America drumpf again" really not
> humorous, but negative to trump, so libs buy it buy it buy it
>
> anti trump merch: https://www.drumpf.wtf/shop/
>
> cheap dept store discard with a lil yellow hair https://www.etsy.com/list
> ing/294535383/make-merkins-great-again-drumpf-model
>
>
>
> 145 bucks to wrap yourself in trump https://www.redbubble.co
> m/people/lekkerontwerpen/works/21635441-donald-drumpf?p=
> duvet-cover=king (ummm who really wins there)
>
>
>
> 54 bucks, not just a drumpf but even a full Godwin, just to be "witty" and
> unique, just like everyone else https://www.redbubble.com
> /people/willblack/works/21151690-herr-drumpf?p=t-shirt&
> style=mhoodiez_color=royal_blue=medium_location=front
>
>
>
> 56 bucks and all you get is a Drumpf https://www.redbubble.c
> om/people/cooldad420/works/21081855-donald-drumpf-campaign-
> logo?p=t-shirt=mhoodiez_color=royal_blue=
> medium_location=front
>
>
>
> heres the shitwipe, only 5 bucks to really stick it to the man (id
>  probably order this to put on the bathroom shelf, i cant lie)
> https://www.etsy.com/listing/263463026/trump-tissue?ref=related-1
>
>
>
> heres 30 bucks of batshit, too much to break down into a single
> description https://noobs.ninja/product/epic-charity-shirt-justice/
>
>
>
> Funny thing is... who do you think gets the dough on most of this
> shit... capitalists
>
>
>
> These libs, always bringing down the system. Big LOLz little lolZ
> everybody got the LoLz
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
> wrote:
>
> You can also get a Chia Obama.
>
> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1V05813
> 209=1_mc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC_mmc=KNC-
> GoogleMKP-PC-_-pla-_-OG+-+Plant+Stands+%26+Hangers-_-9SIA1V0
> 5813209=CPrgwJ_QsdICFQdbhgodZxgOww=aw.ds
>
> Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
>
> How are chia negative?  I love chia haired things more than normal haired
> things.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017, 6:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> There is so much money being made off liberals hatred for trump
> right now. You can put anything out there with a negative tone
> toward trump for sale, they'll gobble it up. Maga toilet paper is
> particularly popular.
> Depending on your customer base, if it's predominately liberal,
> you could double your price on a fuck trump package, exactly the
> same as it is now, just with the words fuck trump and a disclaimer
> that it's not for trump supporters. Granted you'd have to only
> cover the geographically tiny pockets of liberal voters
>
> On Feb 27, 2017 5:36 PM, "Nate Burke" <n...@blastcomm.com
>
> <mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> wrote:
>
>   

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Chia Trump?

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

i got matrixes too
[image: Inline image 1]

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 9:39 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

>
> On Feb 27, 2017 9:33 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> i can call my crank a weaved basket too, though I dont think I would want
>> to keep apples in it.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You realize you can be a social progressive and economic conservative,
>>> right?
>>>
>>> You can also be a social conservative and have a leftist economic stance.
>>>
>>> On Feb 27, 2017 8:36 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> look at the sales of stuff with drumpf
>>>> even the original Colbert skit, or whoever it was wasnt all that funny
>>>> in terms of comedy, it had a negative tone, so it was laughed at
>>>> you see people use the term drumpf constantly, still no humor or
>>>> insult, my grampas last name got a new spelling at ellis island
>>>> its actually an insult to immigrants who had to have their identities
>>>> altered to enter the us
>>>> but the left doesnt care, they have "make America drumpf again" really
>>>> not humorous, but negative to trump, so libs buy it buy it buy it
>>>> anti trump merch: https://www.drumpf.wtf/shop/
>>>> cheap dept store discard with a lil yellow hair
>>>> https://www.etsy.com/listing/294535383/make-merkins-gre
>>>> at-again-drumpf-model
>>>>
>>>> 145 bucks to wrap yourself in trump https://www.redbubble.co
>>>> m/people/lekkerontwerpen/works/21635441-donald-drumpf?p=duve
>>>> t-cover=king (ummm who really wins there)
>>>>
>>>> 54 bucks, not just a drumpf but even a full Godwin, just to be "witty"
>>>> and unique, just like everyone else https://www.redbubble.com
>>>> /people/willblack/works/21151690-herr-drumpf?p=t-shirt
>>>> =mhoodiez_color=royal_blue=medium_location=front
>>>>
>>>> 56 bucks and all you get is a Drumpf https://www.redbubble.c
>>>> om/people/cooldad420/works/21081855-donald-drumpf-campaign-l
>>>> ogo?p=t-shirt=mhoodiez_color=royal_blue=medi
>>>> um_location=front
>>>>
>>>> heres the shitwipe, only 5 bucks to really stick it to the man (id
>>>>  probably order this to put on the bathroom shelf, i cant lie)
>>>> https://www.etsy.com/listing/263463026/trump-tissue?ref=related-1
>>>>
>>>> heres 30 bucks of batshit, too much to break down into a single
>>>> description https://noobs.ninja/product/epic-charity-shirt-justice/
>>>>
>>>> Funny thing is... who do you think gets the dough on most of this
>>>> shit... capitalists
>>>>
>>>> These libs, always bringing down the system. Big LOLz little lolZ
>>>> everybody got the LoLz
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You can also get a Chia Obama.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1V05813
>>>>> 209=1_mc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC_mmc=KNC-GoogleMKP-
>>>>> PC-_-pla-_-OG+-+Plant+Stands+%26+Hangers-_-9SIA1V05813209
>>>>> lid=CPrgwJ_QsdICFQdbhgodZxgOww=aw.ds
>>>>>
>>>>> Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How are chia negative?  I love chia haired things more than normal
>>>>>> haired things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017, 6:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is so much money being made off liberals hatred for trump
>>>>>> right now. You can put anything out there with a negative tone
>>>>>> toward trump for sale, they'll gobble it up. Maga toilet paper is
>>>>>> particularly popular.
>>>>>> Depending on your customer base, if it's predominately liberal,
>>>>>> you could double your price on a fuck trump package, exactly the
>>>>>> same as it is now, just with the words fuck trump and a disclaimer
>>>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Chia Trump?

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

i can call my crank a weaved basket too, though I dont think I would want
to keep apples in it.

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> You realize you can be a social progressive and economic conservative,
> right?
>
> You can also be a social conservative and have a leftist economic stance.
>
> On Feb 27, 2017 8:36 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> look at the sales of stuff with drumpf
>> even the original Colbert skit, or whoever it was wasnt all that funny in
>> terms of comedy, it had a negative tone, so it was laughed at
>> you see people use the term drumpf constantly, still no humor or insult,
>> my grampas last name got a new spelling at ellis island
>> its actually an insult to immigrants who had to have their identities
>> altered to enter the us
>> but the left doesnt care, they have "make America drumpf again" really
>> not humorous, but negative to trump, so libs buy it buy it buy it
>> anti trump merch: https://www.drumpf.wtf/shop/
>> cheap dept store discard with a lil yellow hair https://www.etsy.com/list
>> ing/294535383/make-merkins-great-again-drumpf-model
>>
>> 145 bucks to wrap yourself in trump https://www.redbubble.co
>> m/people/lekkerontwerpen/works/21635441-donald-drumpf?p=
>> duvet-cover=king (ummm who really wins there)
>>
>> 54 bucks, not just a drumpf but even a full Godwin, just to be "witty"
>> and unique, just like everyone else https://www.redbubble.com
>> /people/willblack/works/21151690-herr-drumpf?p=t-shirt&
>> style=mhoodiez_color=royal_blue=medium_location=front
>>
>> 56 bucks and all you get is a Drumpf https://www.redbubble.c
>> om/people/cooldad420/works/21081855-donald-drumpf-campaign-
>> logo?p=t-shirt=mhoodiez_color=royal_blue=
>> medium_location=front
>>
>> heres the shitwipe, only 5 bucks to really stick it to the man (id
>>  probably order this to put on the bathroom shelf, i cant lie)
>> https://www.etsy.com/listing/263463026/trump-tissue?ref=related-1
>>
>> heres 30 bucks of batshit, too much to break down into a single
>> description https://noobs.ninja/product/epic-charity-shirt-justice/
>>
>> Funny thing is... who do you think gets the dough on most of this
>> shit... capitalists
>>
>> These libs, always bringing down the system. Big LOLz little lolZ
>> everybody got the LoLz
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You can also get a Chia Obama.
>>>
>>> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1V05813
>>> 209=1_mc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC_mmc=KNC-GoogleMKP-
>>> PC-_-pla-_-OG+-+Plant+Stands+%26+Hangers-_-9SIA1V05813209
>>> lid=CPrgwJ_QsdICFQdbhgodZxgOww=aw.ds
>>>
>>> Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> How are chia negative?  I love chia haired things more than normal
>>>> haired things.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017, 6:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There is so much money being made off liberals hatred for trump
>>>> right now. You can put anything out there with a negative tone
>>>> toward trump for sale, they'll gobble it up. Maga toilet paper is
>>>> particularly popular.
>>>> Depending on your customer base, if it's predominately liberal,
>>>> you could double your price on a fuck trump package, exactly the
>>>> same as it is now, just with the words fuck trump and a disclaimer
>>>> that it's not for trump supporters. Granted you'd have to only
>>>> cover the geographically tiny pockets of liberal voters
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 27, 2017 5:36 PM, "Nate Burke" <n...@blastcomm.com
>>>> <mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I heard radio ads for them around the election.�
>>>>
>>>> Cha Cha Cha Chia!
>>>>
>>>> On 2/27/2017 5:19 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Are these for real, or more fake news?� I haven�t seen
>>>>> them in stores.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Chia-Freedom-Choice-Donald-Trump/dp/B
>>>>> 01F9P70YE
>>>>>
>>>>> �
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No virus found in this message.
>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature>
>>>> Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/14035 - Release Date:
>>>> 02/27/17
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Chia Trump?

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

look at the sales of stuff with drumpf
even the original Colbert skit, or whoever it was wasnt all that funny in
terms of comedy, it had a negative tone, so it was laughed at
you see people use the term drumpf constantly, still no humor or insult, my
grampas last name got a new spelling at ellis island
its actually an insult to immigrants who had to have their identities
altered to enter the us
but the left doesnt care, they have "make America drumpf again" really not
humorous, but negative to trump, so libs buy it buy it buy it
anti trump merch: https://www.drumpf.wtf/shop/
cheap dept store discard with a lil yellow hair
https://www.etsy.com/listing/294535383/make-merkins-great-again-drumpf-model

145 bucks to wrap yourself in trump
https://www.redbubble.com/people/lekkerontwerpen/works/21635441-donald-drumpf?p=duvet-cover=king
(ummm who really wins there)

54 bucks, not just a drumpf but even a full Godwin, just to be "witty" and
unique, just like everyone else
https://www.redbubble.com/people/willblack/works/21151690-herr-drumpf?p=t-shirt=mhoodiez_color=royal_blue=medium_location=front

56 bucks and all you get is a Drumpf
https://www.redbubble.com/people/cooldad420/works/21081855-donald-drumpf-campaign-logo?p=t-shirt=mhoodiez_color=royal_blue=medium_location=front

heres the shitwipe, only 5 bucks to really stick it to the man (id
 probably order this to put on the bathroom shelf, i cant lie)
https://www.etsy.com/listing/263463026/trump-tissue?ref=related-1

heres 30 bucks of batshit, too much to break down into a single description
https://noobs.ninja/product/epic-charity-shirt-justice/

Funny thing is... who do you think gets the dough on most of this
shit... capitalists

These libs, always bringing down the system. Big LOLz little lolZ everybody
got the LoLz

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
wrote:

> You can also get a Chia Obama.
>
> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1V05813
> 209=1_mc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC_mmc=KNC-
> GoogleMKP-PC-_-pla-_-OG+-+Plant+Stands+%26+Hangers-_-9SIA1V0
> 5813209=CPrgwJ_QsdICFQdbhgodZxgOww=aw.ds
>
> Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
>>
>> How are chia negative?  I love chia haired things more than normal haired
>> things.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017, 6:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> There is so much money being made off liberals hatred for trump
>> right now. You can put anything out there with a negative tone
>> toward trump for sale, they'll gobble it up. Maga toilet paper is
>> particularly popular.
>> Depending on your customer base, if it's predominately liberal,
>> you could double your price on a fuck trump package, exactly the
>> same as it is now, just with the words fuck trump and a disclaimer
>> that it's not for trump supporters. Granted you'd have to only
>> cover the geographically tiny pockets of liberal voters
>>
>> On Feb 27, 2017 5:36 PM, "Nate Burke" <n...@blastcomm.com
>> <mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I heard radio ads for them around the election.�
>>
>> Cha Cha Cha Chia!
>>
>> On 2/27/2017 5:19 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Are these for real, or more fake news?� I haven�t seen
>>> them in stores.
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Chia-Freedom-Choice-Donald-Trump/dp/
>>> B01F9P70YE
>>>
>>> �
>>>
>>>
>>
>> No virus found in this message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature>
>> Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/14035 - Release Date: 02/27/17
>>
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: SpaceX offering tourist trip around the moon next year

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

can you imagine the liability waiver for this
I really hop its a man and woman planning on making the first space baby
and they film it
um
for science

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:

> Now this is definitely On Topic.
>
> http://www.space.com/35844-elon-musk-spacex-announcement-today.html
>
>
> --
>
> bp
> 
>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

How would that locate a static ip? I'm not understanding

On Feb 27, 2017 5:18 PM, "Dennis Burgess" <dmburg...@linktechs.net> wrote:

> Rouge dhcp server along with mac and IP.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>
> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>
>
>
> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>
> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>
> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
>
> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 4:54 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
>
>
>
> DHCP alert will tell me if there is an IP thats not a DHCP server?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
> wrote:
>
> ARPs will not come though as you don’t have anything on that subnet.
> DHCP-Alert is what you want.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>
> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>
>
>
> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>
> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>
> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
>
> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 4:19 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
>
>
>
> Im mainly looking for IP space that shouldnt be present, DHCP or not.
>
> I can packet sniff and exclude all configured subnets on that bridge, but
>  its a pain
>
> I didnt know if there was arp monitor or something along those lines.
> collecting gratuitous ARPs or something like that
>
>
>
>
>
> I see alot of false 192.168.1.1 when i stick that subnet on the interface,
> it doesnt respond and often times has the customer IP arp listed as well
> sometimes its the same mac, sometimes its one digit off like a reboot
> cycling up in switch then into router mode during boot cycle. I see it alot
> with netgear macs.
>
>
>
> alot of times the 192.168.1.1 is persistent even though its not responding
> or otherwise apparently even active
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Oh?  I never noticed that feature.
>
>
>
> If you get the offender's MAC address it should be trivial to find them at
> that point.  That's really all you need.
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
>
> From: "Dennis Burgess" <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
>
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>
> Sent: 2/27/2017 5:01:12 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
>
>
>
> MIkroTik does have a dhcp alert detection as well.  It will not detect the
> dhcp sever on the router.  It will give you basic information such as MAC
> address etc, but really don’t help you too much. But neither will turning a
> DHCP client on.  You have to find where that client is and turn them off.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>
> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>
>
>
> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>
> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>
> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
>
> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis Burgess
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 3:59 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
>
>
>
> Switch can do it too, port isolation! Lol  note, not a dumb switch
> though.   Nettoix I belive does it.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>
> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>
>
>
> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>
> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>
> Office:

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[That One Guy /sarcasm]

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pockets of liberal voters

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On 2/27/2017 5:19 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

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Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

DHCP alert will tell me if there is an IP thats not a DHCP server?

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
wrote:

> ARPs will not come though as you don’t have anything on that subnet.
> DHCP-Alert is what you want.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>
> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>
>
>
> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>
> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>
> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
>
> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 4:19 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
>
>
>
> Im mainly looking for IP space that shouldnt be present, DHCP or not.
>
> I can packet sniff and exclude all configured subnets on that bridge, but
>  its a pain
>
> I didnt know if there was arp monitor or something along those lines.
> collecting gratuitous ARPs or something like that
>
>
>
>
>
> I see alot of false 192.168.1.1 when i stick that subnet on the interface,
> it doesnt respond and often times has the customer IP arp listed as well
> sometimes its the same mac, sometimes its one digit off like a reboot
> cycling up in switch then into router mode during boot cycle. I see it alot
> with netgear macs.
>
>
>
> alot of times the 192.168.1.1 is persistent even though its not responding
> or otherwise apparently even active
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Oh?  I never noticed that feature.
>
>
>
> If you get the offender's MAC address it should be trivial to find them at
> that point.  That's really all you need.
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
>
> From: "Dennis Burgess" <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
>
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>
> Sent: 2/27/2017 5:01:12 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
>
>
>
> MIkroTik does have a dhcp alert detection as well.  It will not detect the
> dhcp sever on the router.  It will give you basic information such as MAC
> address etc, but really don’t help you too much. But neither will turning a
> DHCP client on.  You have to find where that client is and turn them off.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>
> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>
>
>
> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>
> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>
> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
>
> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis Burgess
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 3:59 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
>
>
>
> Switch can do it too, port isolation! Lol  note, not a dumb switch
> though.   Nettoix I belive does it.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>
> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>
>
>
> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>
> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>
> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
>
> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 3:57 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
>
>
>
> Only on two different router interfaces.  If they're on a switch, then no.
>
>
> I think Dennis may be referring to how you should ideally have things
> configured, and I think you're talking specifically about the feature in
> Canopy equipment labeled "SM Isolation".
>
> Ideally, yeah you should make it so one customer can't break everyone.
> That's a multi-faceted thing and SM Isolation is one component of it.
>
>
>
> If you're looking specifically for a router plugged in backwards, add a
> DHCP-client to the interface facing the AP, and (*critical*) uncheck th

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

could what i see be a component of bad upnp?

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Jesse DuPont <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
> wrote:

> There isn't really anything that does what you want other than looking at
> packets. Your best bet will be to capture and then filter just ARP packets
> or just DHCP server packets (UDP, source-port 67) to find rogue DHCP
> servers. It's a start.
>
> *Jesse DuPont*
>
> Network Architect
> email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
> Celerity Networks LLC
>
> Celerity Broadband LLC
> Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc
>
> Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband
> On 2/27/17 3:18 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> Im mainly looking for IP space that shouldnt be present, DHCP or not.
> I can packet sniff and exclude all configured subnets on that bridge, but
>  its a pain
> I didnt know if there was arp monitor or something along those lines.
> collecting gratuitous ARPs or something like that
>
>
> I see alot of false 192.168.1.1 when i stick that subnet on the interface,
> it doesnt respond and often times has the customer IP arp listed as well
> sometimes its the same mac, sometimes its one digit off like a reboot
> cycling up in switch then into router mode during boot cycle. I see it alot
> with netgear macs.
>
> alot of times the 192.168.1.1 is persistent even though its not responding
> or otherwise apparently even active
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh?  I never noticed that feature.
>>
>> If you get the offender's MAC address it should be trivial to find them
>> at that point.  That's really all you need.
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Dennis Burgess" <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> Sent: 2/27/2017 5:01:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
>>
>> MIkroTik does have a dhcp alert detection as well.  It will not detect
>> the dhcp sever on the router.  It will give you basic information such as
>> MAC address etc, but really don’t help you too much. But neither will
>> turning a DHCP client on.  You have to find where that client is and turn
>> them off.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>>
>> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
>> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>>
>>
>>
>> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>>
>> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>>
>> Office: 314-735-0270 <%28314%29%20735-0270>
>>
>> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis Burgess
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 3:59 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
>>
>>
>>
>> Switch can do it too, port isolation! Lol  note, not a dumb switch
>> though.   Nettoix I belive does it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>>
>> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
>> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>>
>>
>>
>> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>>
>> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>>
>> Office: 314-735-0270 <%28314%29%20735-0270>
>>
>> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 3:57 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
>>
>>
>>
>> Only on two different router interfaces.  If they're on a switch, then no.
>>
>>
>> I think Dennis may be referring to how you should ideally have things
>> configured, and I think you're talking specifically about the feature in
>> Canopy equipment labeled "SM Isolation".
>>
>> Ideally, yeah you should make it so one customer can't break everyone.
>> That's a multi-faceted thing and SM Isolation is one component of it.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you're looking specifically for a router plugged in backwards, add a
>> DHCP-client to the interface facing the AP, and (*critical*) uncheck the
>> 

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Im mainly looking for IP space that shouldnt be present, DHCP or not.
I can packet sniff and exclude all configured subnets on that bridge, but
 its a pain
I didnt know if there was arp monitor or something along those lines.
collecting gratuitous ARPs or something like that


I see alot of false 192.168.1.1 when i stick that subnet on the interface,
it doesnt respond and often times has the customer IP arp listed as well
sometimes its the same mac, sometimes its one digit off like a reboot
cycling up in switch then into router mode during boot cycle. I see it alot
with netgear macs.

alot of times the 192.168.1.1 is persistent even though its not responding
or otherwise apparently even active

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh?  I never noticed that feature.
>
> If you get the offender's MAC address it should be trivial to find them at
> that point.  That's really all you need.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Dennis Burgess" <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Sent: 2/27/2017 5:01:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
>
> MIkroTik does have a dhcp alert detection as well.  It will not detect the
> dhcp sever on the router.  It will give you basic information such as MAC
> address etc, but really don’t help you too much. But neither will turning a
> DHCP client on.  You have to find where that client is and turn them off.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>
> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>
>
>
> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>
> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>
> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
>
> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis Burgess
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 3:59 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
>
>
>
> Switch can do it too, port isolation! Lol  note, not a dumb switch
> though.   Nettoix I belive does it.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>
> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>
>
>
> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>
> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>
> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
>
> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 3:57 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
>
>
>
> Only on two different router interfaces.  If they're on a switch, then no.
>
>
> I think Dennis may be referring to how you should ideally have things
> configured, and I think you're talking specifically about the feature in
> Canopy equipment labeled "SM Isolation".
>
> Ideally, yeah you should make it so one customer can't break everyone.
> That's a multi-faceted thing and SM Isolation is one component of it.
>
>
>
> If you're looking specifically for a router plugged in backwards, add a
> DHCP-client to the interface facing the AP, and (*critical*) uncheck the
> boxes for "add default route" and "add peer DNS".  That might be the kind
> of quick, simple test you're hoping for.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
>
> From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>
> Sent: 2/27/2017 4:42:02 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
>
>
>
> clients on two different access points wil be blocked by client isolation?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
> wrote:
>
> There is no reason why it would and should not .  J  You can easily allow
> the one offs …
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>
> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>
>
>
> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>
> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>
> Of

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

cool
but back to the original question, without doing packet sniffing is there a
way to see rogue subnets?

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:53 PM, Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
wrote:

> Yep Clients should only be able to reach the Router that is in
> question, that it . J
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>
> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>
>
>
> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>
> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>
> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
>
> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 3:42 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
>
>
>
> clients on two different access points wil be blocked by client isolation?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
> wrote:
>
> There is no reason why it would and should not .  J  You can easily allow
> the one offs …
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>
> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>
>
>
> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>
> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>
> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
>
> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 1:13 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
>
>
>
> A. we have some locations where we dont use client isolation and B client
> isolation doesnt apply to two access points as far as I know
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
> wrote:
>
> Your client isolation should take care of that.  FYI.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>
> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>
>
>
> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>
> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>
> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
>
> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 12:42 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
>
>
>
> I wasnt clear, I was actually looking for rogue subnets in general
>
> another issue example is that a customer with some time clocks recently
> had a slick tech put a switch in before the router at multiple locations
> from the same site, different APs, we bridge the APs at the POP, so they
> were directly communicating
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
> wrote:
>
> You might find the useful.
>
>
>
> https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=23640
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, February 27, 2017 11:34:59 AM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
>
> If, for example a customer has a router connected backward, is there an
> arp(ish) check aside from packet sniffing to see this since its not a
> subnet on the interface and there wont be an arp entry?
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

clients on two different access points wil be blocked by client isolation?

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
wrote:

> There is no reason why it would and should not .  J  You can easily allow
> the one offs …
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>
> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>
>
>
> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>
> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>
> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
>
> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 1:13 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
>
>
>
> A. we have some locations where we dont use client isolation and B client
> isolation doesnt apply to two access points as far as I know
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
> wrote:
>
> Your client isolation should take care of that.  FYI.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>
> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>
>
>
> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>
> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>
> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
>
> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 12:42 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
>
>
>
> I wasnt clear, I was actually looking for rogue subnets in general
>
> another issue example is that a customer with some time clocks recently
> had a slick tech put a switch in before the router at multiple locations
> from the same site, different APs, we bridge the APs at the POP, so they
> were directly communicating
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
> wrote:
>
> You might find the useful.
>
>
>
> https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=23640
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, February 27, 2017 11:34:59 AM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
>
> If, for example a customer has a router connected backward, is there an
> arp(ish) check aside from packet sniffing to see this since its not a
> subnet on the interface and there wont be an arp entry?
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

A. we have some locations where we dont use client isolation and B client
isolation doesnt apply to two access points as far as I know

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
wrote:

> Your client isolation should take care of that.  FYI.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>
> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>
>
>
> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>
> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>
> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
>
> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 12:42 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
>
>
>
> I wasnt clear, I was actually looking for rogue subnets in general
>
> another issue example is that a customer with some time clocks recently
> had a slick tech put a switch in before the router at multiple locations
> from the same site, different APs, we bridge the APs at the POP, so they
> were directly communicating
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
> wrote:
>
> You might find the useful.
>
>
>
> https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=23640
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, February 27, 2017 11:34:59 AM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
>
> If, for example a customer has a router connected backward, is there an
> arp(ish) check aside from packet sniffing to see this since its not a
> subnet on the interface and there wont be an arp entry?
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

I wasnt clear, I was actually looking for rogue subnets in general
another issue example is that a customer with some time clocks recently had
a slick tech put a switch in before the router at multiple locations from
the same site, different APs, we bridge the APs at the POP, so they were
directly communicating

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
wrote:

> You might find the useful.
>
> https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=23640
>
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, February 27, 2017 11:34:59 AM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
>
> If, for example a customer has a router connected backward, is there an
> arp(ish) check aside from packet sniffing to see this since its not a
> subnet on the interface and there wont be an arp entry?
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

[AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

If, for example a customer has a router connected backward, is there an
arp(ish) check aside from packet sniffing to see this since its not a
subnet on the interface and there wont be an arp entry?



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] ITU defines 5G,

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

So where feasible 1bit/hz is good?

On Feb 27, 2017 2:38 AM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:

> So here it is:
>
> The total download capacity for a single 5G cell must be at least 20Gbps,
> the International Telcommunication Union (ITU) has decided. In contrast,
> the peak data rate for current LTE cells is about 1Gbps. The incoming 5G
> standard must also support up to 1 million connected devices per square
> kilometre, and the standard will require carriers to have at least 100MHz
> of free spectrum, scaling up to 1GHz where feasible.
>
> https://arstechnica.co.uk/information-technology/2017/
> 02/5g-imt-2020-specs/
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT....wow....no decoding ring for you.....Spicer checks WH staffers' phones for leaks, vows more searches coming

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

What he released was what it was. If there is no consequence we end up with
no security. You have to be certain what you're blowing the whistle on is
actually serious. Draft anything is not (talking about policy and whatnot)
draft is just an idea.
Had snowden taken even one step to go down a legitimate channel I wouldn't
have issue to the degree I do. Even if that was nothing more than a
deadline to come clean. I would prefer he released through a team that
could spot national security issue, but it's here nor there at this point,
he needs to die now.
Whistleblowers might lose a career, but almost always will get a book deal,
so it's not like income will be an issue. But those who choose to go
outside the protected channel stand to lose a lot more, like getting robbed
ala democrats. At least I want to publicly acknowledge we killed them.


On Feb 26, 2017 11:04 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> Which wouldn't have matter wether he did use his chain of command
> (debatable depending on how you read the hearing reports), as it's been
> pointed out several places that the whistleblower protections don't
> actually protect contractors - only federal employees. Tie that together
> with a historical retaliation on whistleblowers that had destroyed careers
> even after people were exonerated and I can see why.
>
> Note, I'm not saying what he did, the going to other countries etc is
> right or wrong, I'm simply saying I understand why someone in his situation
> blew the whistle the way that he did.
>
> I mean, his uncovering of mass surveillance that was so bad it was
> retroactively made legal is mind blowing. Blatant disregard of law by the
> US government, and instead of prosecuting anyone they're like "nah it's
> fine, oh here's a hall pass to cover the last couple of years".
>
> I'm very, very bothered that people are so up in arms over Snowden that
> nobody gives a fuck what he actually uncovered. That's a big warning flag
> to me about the state of our country.
>
>
> On Feb 26, 2017 10:48 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have to clarify, that response I just made came across very shitty to
>> Jaime, was intended tongue in cheek.
>>
>> But releasing information about treason is not an issue initially for the
>> media, whistleblower programs are in place and nobody uses them, if they do
>> and they fail, then the press is fine, but it used to be the press would
>> investigate it, verify it where possible, now its a direct to the plate
>> scenario. Snowden needs to never come back, because he should be shot, he
>> never attempted a formal channel, and he had the tech prowess to dead man
>> switch an insurance data dump.
>> The leaker who got our seal killed needs blacksited and never seen again.
>> These leakers of everything just need a bullet in the head and their
>> bodies left for the raccoons.
>>
>> Yeah, I do bluff a lot in poker, mainly because I drink a lot and forget
>> how to play mid game.
>>
>> On Feb 26, 2017 10:22 PM, "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Quite a slippery slope there.  I think if they are leaking an attempt at
>> covering up treason, then it is probably more important that we prosecute
>> the person who committed the ACTUAL treason, rather than the person who
>> leaked the attempt at covering it up.  I don't think any of them deserves a
>> bullet.  As a strong second amendment-supporting liberal, I find it hard to
>> grasp the quick rush to murder people from the political party that
>> supposedly champions a 'right to life'.  Let me guess, you probably support
>> running over protesters in the streets too, right?
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 9:10 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If they will leak insignificant information for free, they'll release
>>> devastating intelligence for a fee. All reports on the Yemen raid indicate
>>> they were prepared for our boys arrival. We lost a navy seal because of
>>> leaks. So I don't think it's extreme at all.
>>> The fact you think leaks are ok makes you much more a piece of work. Do
>>> you spit on veterans too?
>>>
>>> On Feb 26, 2017 9:11 PM, "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow, you are really a piece of work Steve.  Those people who released
>>> the trivial BS deserve to die??  There is the far right, and then there is
>>> bat shit crazy.  Where do you think you fall?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 8:04 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatonegu

Re: [AFMUG] OT....wow....no decoding ring for you.....Spicer checks WH staffers' phones for leaks, vows more searches coming

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

And we believe right to life for people who haven't had a chance to do
anything wrong.

On Feb 26, 2017 10:47 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I have to clarify, that response I just made came across very shitty to
> Jaime, was intended tongue in cheek.
>
> But releasing information about treason is not an issue initially for the
> media, whistleblower programs are in place and nobody uses them, if they do
> and they fail, then the press is fine, but it used to be the press would
> investigate it, verify it where possible, now its a direct to the plate
> scenario. Snowden needs to never come back, because he should be shot, he
> never attempted a formal channel, and he had the tech prowess to dead man
> switch an insurance data dump.
> The leaker who got our seal killed needs blacksited and never seen again.
> These leakers of everything just need a bullet in the head and their
> bodies left for the raccoons.
>
> Yeah, I do bluff a lot in poker, mainly because I drink a lot and forget
> how to play mid game.
>
> On Feb 26, 2017 10:22 PM, "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Quite a slippery slope there.  I think if they are leaking an attempt at
> covering up treason, then it is probably more important that we prosecute
> the person who committed the ACTUAL treason, rather than the person who
> leaked the attempt at covering it up.  I don't think any of them deserves a
> bullet.  As a strong second amendment-supporting liberal, I find it hard to
> grasp the quick rush to murder people from the political party that
> supposedly champions a 'right to life'.  Let me guess, you probably support
> running over protesters in the streets too, right?
>
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 9:10 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If they will leak insignificant information for free, they'll release
>> devastating intelligence for a fee. All reports on the Yemen raid indicate
>> they were prepared for our boys arrival. We lost a navy seal because of
>> leaks. So I don't think it's extreme at all.
>> The fact you think leaks are ok makes you much more a piece of work. Do
>> you spit on veterans too?
>>
>> On Feb 26, 2017 9:11 PM, "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Wow, you are really a piece of work Steve.  Those people who released the
>> trivial BS deserve to die??  There is the far right, and then there is bat
>> shit crazy.  Where do you think you fall?
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 8:04 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Seems like they have no loyalty to their nation. Hopefully many of them
>>> he killed during a "robbery" democrat style
>>>
>>> On Feb 26, 2017 8:41 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Seems like they have no respect or loyalty to Trumporino and
>>>> friends...I agree it is bad to leak high security stuff but maybe finally
>>>> the truth about Roswell will be leaked ...
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 26, 2017 7:35 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This should have been taking place the first time sensitive
>>>>> information leaked, I always assumed the white house would be a secure
>>>>> place.
>>>>> Leakers need to be prosecuted, preferrably executed. Leak in to the
>>>>> press is not whistle blowing. Bypassing all of the many existing 
>>>>> mechanisms
>>>>> to go right to the media should earn a bullet
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 26, 2017 6:58 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Funny that they leaked the steps they are taking to track down the
>>>>>> leaks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017, 5:58 PM Jaime Solorza <
>>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxn
>>>>>>> ews.com%2Fpolitics%2F2017%2F02%2F26%2Fspicer-checks-wh-staff
>>>>>>> ers-phones-for-leaks-vows-more-searches-coming.amp.html#pt0-638843
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT....wow....no decoding ring for you.....Spicer checks WH staffers' phones for leaks, vows more searches coming

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

I have to clarify, that response I just made came across very shitty to
Jaime, was intended tongue in cheek.

But releasing information about treason is not an issue initially for the
media, whistleblower programs are in place and nobody uses them, if they do
and they fail, then the press is fine, but it used to be the press would
investigate it, verify it where possible, now its a direct to the plate
scenario. Snowden needs to never come back, because he should be shot, he
never attempted a formal channel, and he had the tech prowess to dead man
switch an insurance data dump.
The leaker who got our seal killed needs blacksited and never seen again.
These leakers of everything just need a bullet in the head and their bodies
left for the raccoons.

Yeah, I do bluff a lot in poker, mainly because I drink a lot and forget
how to play mid game.

On Feb 26, 2017 10:22 PM, "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

Quite a slippery slope there.  I think if they are leaking an attempt at
covering up treason, then it is probably more important that we prosecute
the person who committed the ACTUAL treason, rather than the person who
leaked the attempt at covering it up.  I don't think any of them deserves a
bullet.  As a strong second amendment-supporting liberal, I find it hard to
grasp the quick rush to murder people from the political party that
supposedly champions a 'right to life'.  Let me guess, you probably support
running over protesters in the streets too, right?

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 9:10 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If they will leak insignificant information for free, they'll release
> devastating intelligence for a fee. All reports on the Yemen raid indicate
> they were prepared for our boys arrival. We lost a navy seal because of
> leaks. So I don't think it's extreme at all.
> The fact you think leaks are ok makes you much more a piece of work. Do
> you spit on veterans too?
>
> On Feb 26, 2017 9:11 PM, "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Wow, you are really a piece of work Steve.  Those people who released the
> trivial BS deserve to die??  There is the far right, and then there is bat
> shit crazy.  Where do you think you fall?
>
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 8:04 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Seems like they have no loyalty to their nation. Hopefully many of them
>> he killed during a "robbery" democrat style
>>
>> On Feb 26, 2017 8:41 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Seems like they have no respect or loyalty to Trumporino and friends...I
>>> agree it is bad to leak high security stuff but maybe finally the truth
>>> about Roswell will be leaked ...
>>>
>>> On Feb 26, 2017 7:35 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This should have been taking place the first time sensitive information
>>>> leaked, I always assumed the white house would be a secure place.
>>>> Leakers need to be prosecuted, preferrably executed. Leak in to the
>>>> press is not whistle blowing. Bypassing all of the many existing mechanisms
>>>> to go right to the media should earn a bullet
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 26, 2017 6:58 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Funny that they leaked the steps they are taking to track down the
>>>>> leaks.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017, 5:58 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxn
>>>>>> ews.com%2Fpolitics%2F2017%2F02%2F26%2Fspicer-checks-wh-staff
>>>>>> ers-phones-for-leaks-vows-more-searches-coming.amp.html#pt0-638843
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT....wow....no decoding ring for you.....Spicer checks WH staffers' phones for leaks, vows more searches coming

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

If they will leak insignificant information for free, they'll release
devastating intelligence for a fee. All reports on the Yemen raid indicate
they were prepared for our boys arrival. We lost a navy seal because of
leaks. So I don't think it's extreme at all.
The fact you think leaks are ok makes you much more a piece of work. Do you
spit on veterans too?

On Feb 26, 2017 9:11 PM, "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

Wow, you are really a piece of work Steve.  Those people who released the
trivial BS deserve to die??  There is the far right, and then there is bat
shit crazy.  Where do you think you fall?

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 8:04 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Seems like they have no loyalty to their nation. Hopefully many of them he
> killed during a "robbery" democrat style
>
> On Feb 26, 2017 8:41 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Seems like they have no respect or loyalty to Trumporino and friends...I
>> agree it is bad to leak high security stuff but maybe finally the truth
>> about Roswell will be leaked ...
>>
>> On Feb 26, 2017 7:35 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This should have been taking place the first time sensitive information
>>> leaked, I always assumed the white house would be a secure place.
>>> Leakers need to be prosecuted, preferrably executed. Leak in to the
>>> press is not whistle blowing. Bypassing all of the many existing mechanisms
>>> to go right to the media should earn a bullet
>>>
>>> On Feb 26, 2017 6:58 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Funny that they leaked the steps they are taking to track down the
>>>> leaks.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017, 5:58 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxn
>>>>> ews.com%2Fpolitics%2F2017%2F02%2F26%2Fspicer-checks-wh-staff
>>>>> ers-phones-for-leaks-vows-more-searches-coming.amp.html#pt0-638843
>>>>>
>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT....wow....no decoding ring for you.....Spicer checks WH staffers' phones for leaks, vows more searches coming

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Seems like they have no loyalty to their nation. Hopefully many of them he
killed during a "robbery" democrat style

On Feb 26, 2017 8:41 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Seems like they have no respect or loyalty to Trumporino and friends...I
> agree it is bad to leak high security stuff but maybe finally the truth
> about Roswell will be leaked ...
>
> On Feb 26, 2017 7:35 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This should have been taking place the first time sensitive information
>> leaked, I always assumed the white house would be a secure place.
>> Leakers need to be prosecuted, preferrably executed. Leak in to the press
>> is not whistle blowing. Bypassing all of the many existing mechanisms to go
>> right to the media should earn a bullet
>>
>> On Feb 26, 2017 6:58 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Funny that they leaked the steps they are taking to track down the
>>> leaks.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017, 5:58 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxn
>>>> ews.com%2Fpolitics%2F2017%2F02%2F26%2Fspicer-checks-wh-staff
>>>> ers-phones-for-leaks-vows-more-searches-coming.amp.html#pt0-638843
>>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT....wow....no decoding ring for you.....Spicer checks WH staffers' phones for leaks, vows more searches coming

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

This should have been taking place the first time sensitive information
leaked, I always assumed the white house would be a secure place.
Leakers need to be prosecuted, preferrably executed. Leak in to the press
is not whistle blowing. Bypassing all of the many existing mechanisms to go
right to the media should earn a bullet

On Feb 26, 2017 6:58 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:

> Funny that they leaked the steps they are taking to track down the leaks.
>
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017, 5:58 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>> foxnews.com%2Fpolitics%2F2017%2F02%2F26%2Fspicer-checks-wh-
>> staffers-phones-for-leaks-vows-more-searches-coming.amp.html#pt0-638843
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

You're going to get icepicked

On Feb 25, 2017 11:39 PM, "Nate Burke" <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

> I had a Chocolate Cake Shake from Portillos tonight.  Really the only
> thing that I think is good there.  Although there were 20 cars in the drive
> through line, and probably 100 people inside.The thing that bothers me
> most is I know some tree-hugger types who will go to Portillos every chance
> they get, yet don't even raise an eyebrow to the 4 styrofoam containers
> their food is served in (they even still use foam cups for soda).  And when
> you go to the counter for a soda refill, they look at you like you're
> trying to extract money directly from the register.
>
> On 2/25/2017 8:36 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> I want that job
>
> On Feb 25, 2017 6:02 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> I heard a radio news story about the far left hyper sensitivity and the
>> far right insensitivity with both being a big problem as some book
>> publishers force authors to run their manuscript through a “sensitivity
>> reader” to keep from hurting feelings.
>>
>> *From:* George Skorup
>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 25, 2017 4:10 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>> Nah, Steve didn't hurt my feelings. I'm not sensitive at all. Just sayin
>> a guy could get an ice pick to the throat is all.
>>
>> On 2/25/2017 4:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> I am thinking of making a T shirt that says:
>>
>> Social Justice Warrior:
>> Shut your f**king ignorant pie hole.
>>
>> I am hyper-sensitive and you are hurting my feelings!
>>
>> *From:* George Skorup
>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 25, 2017 3:13 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>> It comes with you shutting the hell up with that blasphemy. :)
>>
>> On 2/25/2017 1:00 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>
>> I don't understand this portillos craze. I like hot dogs, I like real
>> ones better, but I'm not going to go full under an overpass craziness over
>> one like everybody seems to be on portillos. Do these come with a handjob
>> or something nobody is talking about?
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2017 11:53 PM, "George Skorup" <george.sko...@cbcast.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I had Portillo's for dinner. Nanananabooboo.
>>
>>
>> On 2/24/2017 11:14 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>> Our local place gives you a choice of refried beans or black beans, I
>> always take the black beans.
>>
>>
>>
>> Refried beans seem like you should check them with a Geiger counter.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
>> /sarcasm
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 10:45 PM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>>
>>
>> .. Unless you're going to tell me what refried beans actually are and
>> what that refried beans with white cheese is, cause I'll tell you, it's not
>> great value brand refried beans with shredded mozzarella. If you tell me
>> this secret, well, Fuck Trump for 8 hours
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2017 10:41 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Holy shit dude, the first two " hate crimes" they reference were not hate
>> crimes, they were documented false flags.. I couldn't even read further
>> to see if they reference fbi stats ..   problem is, the order is two weeks
>> old and fbi wouldn't have a data set release for that time period. Don't be
>> fed, don't be a sheep
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2017 10:34 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The hate crime increase rate by FBI is here in your states paper
>>
>> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-madigan
>> -immigration-hate-crimes-summit-20170223-story.html
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2017 9:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> There is something about how they roll out of the corn husk ribs. (I'm
>> not supposed to be eating the husk too am I? Because that may end up in the
>> raw oysters lust of shit I won't make my kids try)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2017 10:06 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I  checked tamale reviews in ChicagoWow...Banana leaves? Chocolate?

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

I want that job

On Feb 25, 2017 6:02 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> I heard a radio news story about the far left hyper sensitivity and the
> far right insensitivity with both being a big problem as some book
> publishers force authors to run their manuscript through a “sensitivity
> reader” to keep from hurting feelings.
>
> *From:* George Skorup
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 25, 2017 4:10 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>
> Nah, Steve didn't hurt my feelings. I'm not sensitive at all. Just sayin a
> guy could get an ice pick to the throat is all.
>
> On 2/25/2017 4:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> I am thinking of making a T shirt that says:
>
> Social Justice Warrior:
> Shut your f**king ignorant pie hole.
>
> I am hyper-sensitive and you are hurting my feelings!
>
> *From:* George Skorup
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 25, 2017 3:13 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>
> It comes with you shutting the hell up with that blasphemy. :)
>
> On 2/25/2017 1:00 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> I don't understand this portillos craze. I like hot dogs, I like real ones
> better, but I'm not going to go full under an overpass craziness over one
> like everybody seems to be on portillos. Do these come with a handjob or
> something nobody is talking about?
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 11:53 PM, "George Skorup" <george.sko...@cbcast.com>
> wrote:
>
> I had Portillo's for dinner. Nanananabooboo.
>
>
> On 2/24/2017 11:14 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> Our local place gives you a choice of refried beans or black beans, I
> always take the black beans.
>
>
>
> Refried beans seem like you should check them with a Geiger counter.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 10:45 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>
>
>
> .. Unless you're going to tell me what refried beans actually are and
> what that refried beans with white cheese is, cause I'll tell you, it's not
> great value brand refried beans with shredded mozzarella. If you tell me
> this secret, well, Fuck Trump for 8 hours
>
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 10:41 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Holy shit dude, the first two " hate crimes" they reference were not hate
> crimes, they were documented false flags.. I couldn't even read further
> to see if they reference fbi stats ..   problem is, the order is two weeks
> old and fbi wouldn't have a data set release for that time period. Don't be
> fed, don't be a sheep
>
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 10:34 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> The hate crime increase rate by FBI is here in your states paper
>
> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-madigan
> -immigration-hate-crimes-summit-20170223-story.html
>
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 9:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> There is something about how they roll out of the corn husk ribs. (I'm not
> supposed to be eating the husk too am I? Because that may end up in the raw
> oysters lust of shit I won't make my kids try)
>
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 10:06 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I  checked tamale reviews in ChicagoWow...Banana leaves? Chocolate?
> WTFI know there are allot of mojaritas (Maybe Gino or Faisal will
> unravel it for you) all over.  There has to be a place to buy dried corn
> husks and nixtamal Masa!!Ranch Pro carried decent Mexican
> offeringsWonder if Masa can be shipped safely... Husks is no
> problem...Let me check..
>
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 8:54 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> They were in a metal can, a little softer than Mexican aunt tamales, I
> grew up on em. They were black and white label generic.
>
>
>
>
>
> I didn't have a real tamales til I was in 5th grade or so, my buddy lio
> and me were at the park on a bridge, he dropped his recorder (the flute
> thing) and I acted like I was gonna kick it off, it bounced and I kicked it
> off into the river. He told me I had to tell his old man what happenned or
> he'd get in trouble. They were getting ready to eat when we got there, we
> told them, it was all good and they invited me to eat. I don't know if
> you've ever been invited to eat in a Mexicans house or not, it's not a
> question or option if there are any aunts there. You will eat be

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google knows

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Mine will break their content filters

I wish android would quit removing my cuss words from the dictionary no
matter how many times I add them

On Feb 25, 2017 10:12 AM, "Travis Johnson"  wrote:

> Now Google will be reading all of your text messages as well... if you use
> an Android phone that is... LOL
>
> https://www.cnet.com/news/google-takes-on-apple-imessage-
> with-enhanced-sms-for-android-rcs/
>
> Travis
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

I don't understand this portillos craze. I like hot dogs, I like real ones
better, but I'm not going to go full under an overpass craziness over one
like everybody seems to be on portillos. Do these come with a handjob or
something nobody is talking about?

On Feb 24, 2017 11:53 PM, "George Skorup" <george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:

I had Portillo's for dinner. Nanananabooboo.


On 2/24/2017 11:14 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Our local place gives you a choice of refried beans or black beans, I
always take the black beans.



Refried beans seem like you should check them with a Geiger counter.





*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf
Of *That One Guy /sarcasm
*Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 10:45 PM

*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling



.. Unless you're going to tell me what refried beans actually are and
what that refried beans with white cheese is, cause I'll tell you, it's not
great value brand refried beans with shredded mozzarella. If you tell me
this secret, well, Fuck Trump for 8 hours



On Feb 24, 2017 10:41 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Holy shit dude, the first two " hate crimes" they reference were not hate
crimes, they were documented false flags.. I couldn't even read further
to see if they reference fbi stats ..   problem is, the order is two weeks
old and fbi wouldn't have a data set release for that time period. Don't be
fed, don't be a sheep



On Feb 24, 2017 10:34 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

The hate crime increase rate by FBI is here in your states paper

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-
madigan-immigration-hate-crimes-summit-20170223-story.html



On Feb 24, 2017 9:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

There is something about how they roll out of the corn husk ribs. (I'm not
supposed to be eating the husk too am I? Because that may end up in the raw
oysters lust of shit I won't make my kids try)



On Feb 24, 2017 10:06 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

I  checked tamale reviews in ChicagoWow...Banana leaves? Chocolate?
WTFI know there are allot of mojaritas (Maybe Gino or Faisal will
unravel it for you) all over.  There has to be a place to buy dried corn
husks and nixtamal Masa!!Ranch Pro carried decent Mexican
offeringsWonder if Masa can be shipped safely... Husks is no
problem...Let me check..



On Feb 24, 2017 8:54 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

They were in a metal can, a little softer than Mexican aunt tamales, I grew
up on em. They were black and white label generic.





I didn't have a real tamales til I was in 5th grade or so, my buddy lio and
me were at the park on a bridge, he dropped his recorder (the flute thing)
and I acted like I was gonna kick it off, it bounced and I kicked it off
into the river. He told me I had to tell his old man what happenned or he'd
get in trouble. They were getting ready to eat when we got there, we told
them, it was all good and they invited me to eat. I don't know if you've
ever been invited to eat in a Mexicans house or not, it's not a question or
option if there are any aunts there. You will eat before you leave, and you
will eat until you're full and then some.

That's where I got exposed to tamales, and a bunch of other stuff I don't
recall what it was. So good, so freaking good.



On Feb 24, 2017 9:37 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

In a can, or a glass jar?  I remember Derby brand tamales in a jar, do they
still sell those?  They lacked all the characteristics of good tamales, but
were strangely appealing.  Like Pringles or candy corn.





*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
/sarcasm
*Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 9:16 PM


*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling



https://www.walmart.com/ip/Maseca-Instant-Masa-For-Tamales-Corn-Mix-4.4-lb/
10790738



I still haven't sourced any husks. Btw are we talking green or dried brown?
And don't send a Mexican aunt to murder me, but if I can't find husks, will
wax paper work?





When I was a kid mom was getting these canned tamales. They're the closest
I remember eating to authentic Mexican aunt tamales. She doesn't remember,
there was no English on the label. We do have an authentic (ish) Mexican
joint here (they make margaritas in a slushy machine), maybe they'll hook
me up with husks



On Feb 24, 2017 8:57 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

What are ingredients? Brand?



On Feb 24, 2017 7:19 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

It sucks we had a bitch for 8 years, a man would have actually changed law
instead of limbo, like how he fucked the immigrants.



On Feb 24, 2017 

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Dude, Bill is already at gitmo, you can't do him any more harm

On Feb 24, 2017 11:18 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

> I almost put a whole bunch of trigger words in this email as a joke but I
> am seriously totally scared that the NSA would find it and pass it to some
> jack booted thugs and next thing we know Bill is locked up with Tommy
> Chong.  I like Bill way too much for that.  And I drive by the largest
> NSA data center in the world every day.
>
> BTW, VX is binary.  So you first have to put part A in his spray tan booth
> before doing the picture with part B in the hole
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 4:45 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>
>
> So all we need to do is to soak a picture of Agent Orange's ass in VX, and
> drop it on the hole 1 tee at Mar a Lago. Then Agent Orange would do himself
> in when he picked up the picture to take a sniff.
>
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 2/24/2017 3:39 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> Hello, does anybody care about the story that North Korea is believed to
> have carried out an assassination in a Malaysian airport using VX?  And it
> is believed they purposely did it in a way to demonstrate to the world and
> especially the U.S. their capability and willingness to use the banned
> chemical weapon?  Oh, and to piss off their only two friends in the world,
> Malaysia and China.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Wispamerica Memphis boss is coming

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Lmao.
I don't have a lot of good boss words, but the current rate structure, I
take pride in that victimless crime

On Feb 24, 2017 10:44 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

I’m starting to think you don’t take pride in your work.

http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-02-24





*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
/sarcasm
*Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 10:30 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Wispamerica Memphis boss is coming



If he asks, I represent the company on an outstanding professional
image. If you don't want to lie, better answer is "animal farm list
what?!"



He coming for wisp guts business advice, what to do with 3ghz (baicells,
cambiums and the other guy) , what value is rural fiber, and some general
bossman owner advice. I can't guarantee he will give up the goods on the
back end of our price structure and delivery mechanism if you talk to him,
but I will tell you this... We have increase profits consistently, never
once directly increase price and always offered a customer either more, or
for less money.



All I care about is you do t tell the boss I'm a prick and you give him
info that will make my job easier

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

.. Unless you're going to tell me what refried beans actually are and
what that refried beans with white cheese is, cause I'll tell you, it's not
great value brand refried beans with shredded mozzarella. If you tell me
this secret, well, Fuck Trump for 8 hours

On Feb 24, 2017 10:41 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Holy shit dude, the first two " hate crimes" they reference were not hate
crimes, they were documented false flags.. I couldn't even read further
to see if they reference fbi stats ..   problem is, the order is two weeks
old and fbi wouldn't have a data set release for that time period. Don't be
fed, don't be a sheep

On Feb 24, 2017 10:34 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

The hate crime increase rate by FBI is here in your states paper
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-madigan
-immigration-hate-crimes-summit-20170223-story.html

On Feb 24, 2017 9:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> There is something about how they roll out of the corn husk ribs. (I'm not
> supposed to be eating the husk too am I? Because that may end up in the raw
> oysters lust of shit I won't make my kids try)
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 10:06 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I  checked tamale reviews in ChicagoWow...Banana leaves? Chocolate?
> WTFI know there are allot of mojaritas (Maybe Gino or Faisal will
> unravel it for you) all over.  There has to be a place to buy dried corn
> husks and nixtamal Masa!!Ranch Pro carried decent Mexican
> offeringsWonder if Masa can be shipped safely... Husks is no
> problem...Let me check..
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 8:54 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> They were in a metal can, a little softer than Mexican aunt tamales, I
> grew up on em. They were black and white label generic.
>
>
> I didn't have a real tamales til I was in 5th grade or so, my buddy lio
> and me were at the park on a bridge, he dropped his recorder (the flute
> thing) and I acted like I was gonna kick it off, it bounced and I kicked it
> off into the river. He told me I had to tell his old man what happenned or
> he'd get in trouble. They were getting ready to eat when we got there, we
> told them, it was all good and they invited me to eat. I don't know if
> you've ever been invited to eat in a Mexicans house or not, it's not a
> question or option if there are any aunts there. You will eat before you
> leave, and you will eat until you're full and then some.
> That's where I got exposed to tamales, and a bunch of other stuff I don't
> recall what it was. So good, so freaking good.
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 9:37 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
> In a can, or a glass jar?  I remember Derby brand tamales in a jar, do
> they still sell those?  They lacked all the characteristics of good
> tamales, but were strangely appealing.  Like Pringles or candy corn.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 9:16 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>
>
>
> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Maseca-Instant-Masa-For-Tamales-C
> orn-Mix-4.4-lb/10790738
>
>
>
> I still haven't sourced any husks. Btw are we talking green or dried
> brown? And don't send a Mexican aunt to murder me, but if I can't find
> husks, will wax paper work?
>
>
>
>
>
> When I was a kid mom was getting these canned tamales. They're the closest
> I remember eating to authentic Mexican aunt tamales. She doesn't remember,
> there was no English on the label. We do have an authentic (ish) Mexican
> joint here (they make margaritas in a slushy machine), maybe they'll hook
> me up with husks
>
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 8:57 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> What are ingredients? Brand?
>
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 7:19 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It sucks we had a bitch for 8 years, a man would have actually changed law
> instead of limbo, like how he fucked the immigrants.
>
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 5:44 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
> I thought the top story was Spicer saying they will crackdown at the
> Federal level more on rec marijuana? I mean, it's only funding schools,
> creating jobs, and paying for roads in Colorado... No big deal.
>
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 5:39 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
> Something is wrong when t

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Holy shit dude, the first two " hate crimes" they reference were not hate
crimes, they were documented false flags.. I couldn't even read further
to see if they reference fbi stats ..   problem is, the order is two weeks
old and fbi wouldn't have a data set release for that time period. Don't be
fed, don't be a sheep

On Feb 24, 2017 10:34 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

The hate crime increase rate by FBI is here in your states paper
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-
madigan-immigration-hate-crimes-summit-20170223-story.html

On Feb 24, 2017 9:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> There is something about how they roll out of the corn husk ribs. (I'm not
> supposed to be eating the husk too am I? Because that may end up in the raw
> oysters lust of shit I won't make my kids try)
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 10:06 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I  checked tamale reviews in ChicagoWow...Banana leaves? Chocolate?
> WTFI know there are allot of mojaritas (Maybe Gino or Faisal will
> unravel it for you) all over.  There has to be a place to buy dried corn
> husks and nixtamal Masa!!Ranch Pro carried decent Mexican
> offeringsWonder if Masa can be shipped safely... Husks is no
> problem...Let me check..
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 8:54 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> They were in a metal can, a little softer than Mexican aunt tamales, I
> grew up on em. They were black and white label generic.
>
>
> I didn't have a real tamales til I was in 5th grade or so, my buddy lio
> and me were at the park on a bridge, he dropped his recorder (the flute
> thing) and I acted like I was gonna kick it off, it bounced and I kicked it
> off into the river. He told me I had to tell his old man what happenned or
> he'd get in trouble. They were getting ready to eat when we got there, we
> told them, it was all good and they invited me to eat. I don't know if
> you've ever been invited to eat in a Mexicans house or not, it's not a
> question or option if there are any aunts there. You will eat before you
> leave, and you will eat until you're full and then some.
> That's where I got exposed to tamales, and a bunch of other stuff I don't
> recall what it was. So good, so freaking good.
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 9:37 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
> In a can, or a glass jar?  I remember Derby brand tamales in a jar, do
> they still sell those?  They lacked all the characteristics of good
> tamales, but were strangely appealing.  Like Pringles or candy corn.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 9:16 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>
>
>
> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Maseca-Instant-Masa-For-Tamales-C
> orn-Mix-4.4-lb/10790738
>
>
>
> I still haven't sourced any husks. Btw are we talking green or dried
> brown? And don't send a Mexican aunt to murder me, but if I can't find
> husks, will wax paper work?
>
>
>
>
>
> When I was a kid mom was getting these canned tamales. They're the closest
> I remember eating to authentic Mexican aunt tamales. She doesn't remember,
> there was no English on the label. We do have an authentic (ish) Mexican
> joint here (they make margaritas in a slushy machine), maybe they'll hook
> me up with husks
>
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 8:57 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> What are ingredients? Brand?
>
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 7:19 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It sucks we had a bitch for 8 years, a man would have actually changed law
> instead of limbo, like how he fucked the immigrants.
>
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 5:44 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
> I thought the top story was Spicer saying they will crackdown at the
> Federal level more on rec marijuana? I mean, it's only funding schools,
> creating jobs, and paying for roads in Colorado... No big deal.
>
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 5:39 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
> Something is wrong when the top news story today is Spicey banning some
> major news outlets from his WH press conference.  Not that it isn’t
> disturbing, but …
>
>
>
> Hello, does anybody care about the story that North Korea is believed to
> have carried out an assassination in a Malaysian airport using VX?  And it
> is believed they purposely did it in a wa

[AFMUG] Wispamerica Memphis boss is coming

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

If he asks, I represent the company on an outstanding professional
image. If you don't want to lie, better answer is "animal farm list
what?!"

He coming for wisp guts business advice, what to do with 3ghz (baicells,
cambiums and the other guy) , what value is rural fiber, and some general
bossman owner advice. I can't guarantee he will give up the goods on the
back end of our price structure and delivery mechanism if you talk to him,
but I will tell you this... We have increase profits consistently, never
once directly increase price and always offered a customer either more, or
for less money.

All I care about is you do t tell the boss I'm a prick and you give him
info that will make my job easier

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

There is something about how they roll out of the corn husk ribs. (I'm not
supposed to be eating the husk too am I? Because that may end up in the raw
oysters lust of shit I won't make my kids try)

On Feb 24, 2017 10:06 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

I  checked tamale reviews in ChicagoWow...Banana leaves? Chocolate?
WTFI know there are allot of mojaritas (Maybe Gino or Faisal will
unravel it for you) all over.  There has to be a place to buy dried corn
husks and nixtamal Masa!!Ranch Pro carried decent Mexican
offeringsWonder if Masa can be shipped safely... Husks is no
problem...Let me check..

On Feb 24, 2017 8:54 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

They were in a metal can, a little softer than Mexican aunt tamales, I grew
up on em. They were black and white label generic.


I didn't have a real tamales til I was in 5th grade or so, my buddy lio and
me were at the park on a bridge, he dropped his recorder (the flute thing)
and I acted like I was gonna kick it off, it bounced and I kicked it off
into the river. He told me I had to tell his old man what happenned or he'd
get in trouble. They were getting ready to eat when we got there, we told
them, it was all good and they invited me to eat. I don't know if you've
ever been invited to eat in a Mexicans house or not, it's not a question or
option if there are any aunts there. You will eat before you leave, and you
will eat until you're full and then some.
That's where I got exposed to tamales, and a bunch of other stuff I don't
recall what it was. So good, so freaking good.

On Feb 24, 2017 9:37 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

In a can, or a glass jar?  I remember Derby brand tamales in a jar, do they
still sell those?  They lacked all the characteristics of good tamales, but
were strangely appealing.  Like Pringles or candy corn.





*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
/sarcasm
*Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 9:16 PM

*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling



https://www.walmart.com/ip/Maseca-Instant-Masa-For-Tamales-C
orn-Mix-4.4-lb/10790738



I still haven't sourced any husks. Btw are we talking green or dried brown?
And don't send a Mexican aunt to murder me, but if I can't find husks, will
wax paper work?





When I was a kid mom was getting these canned tamales. They're the closest
I remember eating to authentic Mexican aunt tamales. She doesn't remember,
there was no English on the label. We do have an authentic (ish) Mexican
joint here (they make margaritas in a slushy machine), maybe they'll hook
me up with husks



On Feb 24, 2017 8:57 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

What are ingredients? Brand?



On Feb 24, 2017 7:19 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

It sucks we had a bitch for 8 years, a man would have actually changed law
instead of limbo, like how he fucked the immigrants.



On Feb 24, 2017 5:44 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

I thought the top story was Spicer saying they will crackdown at the
Federal level more on rec marijuana? I mean, it's only funding schools,
creating jobs, and paying for roads in Colorado... No big deal.



On Feb 24, 2017 5:39 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

Something is wrong when the top news story today is Spicey banning some
major news outlets from his WH press conference.  Not that it isn’t
disturbing, but …



Hello, does anybody care about the story that North Korea is believed to
have carried out an assassination in a Malaysian airport using VX?  And it
is believed they purposely did it in a way to demonstrate to the world and
especially the U.S. their capability and willingness to use the banned
chemical weapon?  Oh, and to piss off their only two friends in the world,
Malaysia and China.



Kim Jong Un is probably wondering, what do I have to do to make the front
page?  I launched a ballistic missile toward Japan while Trump was meeting
with the PM of Japan.  Then I had my half brother assassinated in public in
a foreign airport using 2-part (battlefield weaponized) VX nerve agent.
And all the Americans care about is speeches at CPAC and who was disinvited
to Spicey’s press conference.  And whether Dippin Dots are the ice cream of
the future.





*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Forrest Christian
(List Account)
*Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 5:19 PM
*To:* af <af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling



You've hit on a lot of my frustration with the R's and D's.



Add to that the fact that they have convinced the american public that the
only viable option is either an 'R' or a 'D' and you pretty much sum it up.



For the record, I didn't vote for either a 'R' or a 'D' the last election.
  I hoped to be part of the solution 

Re: [AFMUG] Jaimesolorzaeats.com

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

I'm fine with that as long as they post Russian recipes. I'm not a beet
fan. But I think that's all they have to eat so I bet they have some good
recipes.

On Feb 24, 2017 9:57 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
wrote:

>
> the russians can hack it...
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Bruce Robertson <br...@pooh.com>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 9:23 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Jaimesolorzaeats.com
>
> AWS says:
>
> Privacy protection hides *some* contact details for .ru domains.
>
> But it probably says *some* for all domains.
>
> On 2/24/17 8:20 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> Though I do like the current jaimesolorzaeats.com content
>
>
> .us would be cool too because it's cannibalistic, but .us requires you use
> personal info not identity protection
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 9:18 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If I had known you'd register the .ru, I would have donated that 12 i
>> gave Google for the .com but that's like two weeks pay for me.
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2017 9:15 PM, "Bruce Robertson" <br...@pooh.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'll host and register the domain if someone else sets up the gofundme.
>>>
>>> On 2/24/17 8:09 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>
>>> Gofundme?
>>>
>>> On Feb 24, 2017 8:59 PM, "Bruce Robertson" <br...@pooh.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Clearly we need to pass the hat!
>>>>
>>>> On 2/24/17 7:56 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I just spent twelve bucks on Jaime, I love him, but not another 36
>>>> bucks worth
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 24, 2017 8:55 PM, "Bruce Robertson" <br...@pooh.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> .ru is $36/year on AWS.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/24/17 7:38 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> .ru wasn't available.
>>>>> Anybody have some spare space for a pointer to house Jaime recipes
>>>>> Give Jaime, or the list access.
>>>>> I think Google domains comes with a blog.
>>>>> This just needs a permanent space to archive the food images, any
>>>>> recipes he shares, and possibly enclosureporn.jaimesolorzaeats.com
>>>>> subdomain for the sexy boxes
>>>>> You folks don't know how bad I wish I knew how to register .ru domains
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> wbr>58b0ee3c271281274574929!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> wbr>58b0f25e285181609213196!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> wbr>12!
>>>
>>>
>>> !DSPAM:2,58b0f7fb292451152410860!
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

They were in a metal can, a little softer than Mexican aunt tamales, I grew
up on em. They were black and white label generic.


I didn't have a real tamales til I was in 5th grade or so, my buddy lio and
me were at the park on a bridge, he dropped his recorder (the flute thing)
and I acted like I was gonna kick it off, it bounced and I kicked it off
into the river. He told me I had to tell his old man what happenned or he'd
get in trouble. They were getting ready to eat when we got there, we told
them, it was all good and they invited me to eat. I don't know if you've
ever been invited to eat in a Mexicans house or not, it's not a question or
option if there are any aunts there. You will eat before you leave, and you
will eat until you're full and then some.
That's where I got exposed to tamales, and a bunch of other stuff I don't
recall what it was. So good, so freaking good.

On Feb 24, 2017 9:37 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

In a can, or a glass jar?  I remember Derby brand tamales in a jar, do they
still sell those?  They lacked all the characteristics of good tamales, but
were strangely appealing.  Like Pringles or candy corn.





*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
/sarcasm
*Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 9:16 PM

*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling



https://www.walmart.com/ip/Maseca-Instant-Masa-For-Tamales-Corn-Mix-4.4-lb/
10790738



I still haven't sourced any husks. Btw are we talking green or dried brown?
And don't send a Mexican aunt to murder me, but if I can't find husks, will
wax paper work?





When I was a kid mom was getting these canned tamales. They're the closest
I remember eating to authentic Mexican aunt tamales. She doesn't remember,
there was no English on the label. We do have an authentic (ish) Mexican
joint here (they make margaritas in a slushy machine), maybe they'll hook
me up with husks



On Feb 24, 2017 8:57 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

What are ingredients? Brand?



On Feb 24, 2017 7:19 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

It sucks we had a bitch for 8 years, a man would have actually changed law
instead of limbo, like how he fucked the immigrants.



On Feb 24, 2017 5:44 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

I thought the top story was Spicer saying they will crackdown at the
Federal level more on rec marijuana? I mean, it's only funding schools,
creating jobs, and paying for roads in Colorado... No big deal.



On Feb 24, 2017 5:39 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

Something is wrong when the top news story today is Spicey banning some
major news outlets from his WH press conference.  Not that it isn’t
disturbing, but …



Hello, does anybody care about the story that North Korea is believed to
have carried out an assassination in a Malaysian airport using VX?  And it
is believed they purposely did it in a way to demonstrate to the world and
especially the U.S. their capability and willingness to use the banned
chemical weapon?  Oh, and to piss off their only two friends in the world,
Malaysia and China.



Kim Jong Un is probably wondering, what do I have to do to make the front
page?  I launched a ballistic missile toward Japan while Trump was meeting
with the PM of Japan.  Then I had my half brother assassinated in public in
a foreign airport using 2-part (battlefield weaponized) VX nerve agent.
And all the Americans care about is speeches at CPAC and who was disinvited
to Spicey’s press conference.  And whether Dippin Dots are the ice cream of
the future.





*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Forrest Christian
(List Account)
*Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 5:19 PM
*To:* af <af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling



You've hit on a lot of my frustration with the R's and D's.



Add to that the fact that they have convinced the american public that the
only viable option is either an 'R' or a 'D' and you pretty much sum it up.



For the record, I didn't vote for either a 'R' or a 'D' the last election.
  I hoped to be part of the solution where we consider other alternatives
as well.





On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

There was an episode of the Star Trek TV series titled “Let That Be Your
Last Battlefield” about two warring aliens that appeared identical except
one was black on one side and white on the other, while the other was the
reverse.  The difference was all important to the aliens, but the
Enterprise crew could hardly tell them apart.



I think of that when people immediately identify someone as left or right,
Democrat or Republican, Shia or Sunni.  As if their faces were painted a
certain way so you can immediately tell.  And once you know their political
party or religious sect, that’s all you need to know.  TV is that way, if
they are interv

Re: [AFMUG] Jaimesolorzaeats.com

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Though I do like the current jaimesolorzaeats.com content


.us would be cool too because it's cannibalistic, but .us requires you use
personal info not identity protection

On Feb 24, 2017 9:18 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> If I had known you'd register the .ru, I would have donated that 12 i gave
> Google for the .com but that's like two weeks pay for me.
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 9:15 PM, "Bruce Robertson" <br...@pooh.com> wrote:
>
>> I'll host and register the domain if someone else sets up the gofundme.
>>
>> On 2/24/17 8:09 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>
>> Gofundme?
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2017 8:59 PM, "Bruce Robertson" <br...@pooh.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Clearly we need to pass the hat!
>>>
>>> On 2/24/17 7:56 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>
>>> I just spent twelve bucks on Jaime, I love him, but not another 36 bucks
>>> worth
>>>
>>> On Feb 24, 2017 8:55 PM, "Bruce Robertson" <br...@pooh.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> .ru is $36/year on AWS.
>>>>
>>>> On 2/24/17 7:38 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>>
>>>> .ru wasn't available.
>>>> Anybody have some spare space for a pointer to house Jaime recipes
>>>> Give Jaime, or the list access.
>>>> I think Google domains comes with a blog.
>>>> This just needs a permanent space to archive the food images, any
>>>> recipes he shares, and possibly enclosureporn.jaimesolorzaeats.com
>>>> subdomain for the sexy boxes
>>>> You folks don't know how bad I wish I knew how to register .ru domains
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> wbr>58b0ee3c271281274574929!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> wbr>58b0f25e285181609213196!
>>>
>>>
>>> !DSPAM:2,58b0f557288891003280212!
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Jaimesolorzaeats.com

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

If I had known you'd register the .ru, I would have donated that 12 i gave
Google for the .com but that's like two weeks pay for me.

On Feb 24, 2017 9:15 PM, "Bruce Robertson" <br...@pooh.com> wrote:

> I'll host and register the domain if someone else sets up the gofundme.
>
> On 2/24/17 8:09 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> Gofundme?
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 8:59 PM, "Bruce Robertson" <br...@pooh.com> wrote:
>
>> Clearly we need to pass the hat!
>>
>> On 2/24/17 7:56 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>
>> I just spent twelve bucks on Jaime, I love him, but not another 36 bucks
>> worth
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2017 8:55 PM, "Bruce Robertson" <br...@pooh.com> wrote:
>>
>>> .ru is $36/year on AWS.
>>>
>>> On 2/24/17 7:38 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>
>>> .ru wasn't available.
>>> Anybody have some spare space for a pointer to house Jaime recipes
>>> Give Jaime, or the list access.
>>> I think Google domains comes with a blog.
>>> This just needs a permanent space to archive the food images, any
>>> recipes he shares, and possibly enclosureporn.jaimesolorzaeats.com
>>> subdomain for the sexy boxes
>>> You folks don't know how bad I wish I knew how to register .ru domains
>>>
>>>
>>> wbr>58b0ee3c271281274574929!
>>>
>>>
>>> wbr>58b0f25e285181609213196!
>>
>>
>> !DSPAM:2,58b0f557288891003280212!
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Maseca-Instant-Masa-For-Tamales-Corn-Mix-4.4-lb/10790738

I still haven't sourced any husks. Btw are we talking green or dried brown?
And don't send a Mexican aunt to murder me, but if I can't find husks, will
wax paper work?


When I was a kid mom was getting these canned tamales. They're the closest
I remember eating to authentic Mexican aunt tamales. She doesn't remember,
there was no English on the label. We do have an authentic (ish) Mexican
joint here (they make margaritas in a slushy machine), maybe they'll hook
me up with husks

On Feb 24, 2017 8:57 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What are ingredients? Brand?
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 7:19 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It sucks we had a bitch for 8 years, a man would have actually changed
>> law instead of limbo, like how he fucked the immigrants.
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2017 5:44 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I thought the top story was Spicer saying they will crackdown at the
>>> Federal level more on rec marijuana? I mean, it's only funding schools,
>>> creating jobs, and paying for roads in Colorado... No big deal.
>>>
>>> On Feb 24, 2017 5:39 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Something is wrong when the top news story today is Spicey banning some
>>>> major news outlets from his WH press conference.  Not that it isn’t
>>>> disturbing, but …
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello, does anybody care about the story that North Korea is believed
>>>> to have carried out an assassination in a Malaysian airport using VX?  And
>>>> it is believed they purposely did it in a way to demonstrate to the world
>>>> and especially the U.S. their capability and willingness to use the banned
>>>> chemical weapon?  Oh, and to piss off their only two friends in the world,
>>>> Malaysia and China.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kim Jong Un is probably wondering, what do I have to do to make the
>>>> front page?  I launched a ballistic missile toward Japan while Trump was
>>>> meeting with the PM of Japan.  Then I had my half brother assassinated in
>>>> public in a foreign airport using 2-part (battlefield weaponized) VX nerve
>>>> agent.  And all the Americans care about is speeches at CPAC and who was
>>>> disinvited to Spicey’s press conference.  And whether Dippin Dots are the
>>>> ice cream of the future.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Forrest
>>>> Christian (List Account)
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 5:19 PM
>>>> *To:* af <af@afmug.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You've hit on a lot of my frustration with the R's and D's.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Add to that the fact that they have convinced the american public that
>>>> the only viable option is either an 'R' or a 'D' and you pretty much sum it
>>>> up.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For the record, I didn't vote for either a 'R' or a 'D' the last
>>>> election.   I hoped to be part of the solution where we consider other
>>>> alternatives as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There was an episode of the Star Trek TV series titled “Let That Be
>>>> Your Last Battlefield” about two warring aliens that appeared identical
>>>> except one was black on one side and white on the other, while the other
>>>> was the reverse.  The difference was all important to the aliens, but the
>>>> Enterprise crew could hardly tell them apart.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think of that when people immediately identify someone as left or
>>>> right, Democrat or Republican, Shia or Sunni.  As if their faces were
>>>> painted a certain way so you can immediately tell.  And once you know their
>>>> political party or religious sect, that’s all you need to know.  TV is that
>>>> way, if they are interviewing someone, the most important thing is to have
>>>> a graphic that tells you if they are a

Re: [AFMUG] Jaimesolorzaeats.com

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Gofundme?

On Feb 24, 2017 8:59 PM, "Bruce Robertson" <br...@pooh.com> wrote:

> Clearly we need to pass the hat!
>
> On 2/24/17 7:56 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> I just spent twelve bucks on Jaime, I love him, but not another 36 bucks
> worth
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 8:55 PM, "Bruce Robertson" <br...@pooh.com> wrote:
>
>> .ru is $36/year on AWS.
>>
>> On 2/24/17 7:38 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>
>> .ru wasn't available.
>> Anybody have some spare space for a pointer to house Jaime recipes
>> Give Jaime, or the list access.
>> I think Google domains comes with a blog.
>> This just needs a permanent space to archive the food images, any recipes
>> he shares, and possibly enclosureporn.jaimesolorzaeats.com subdomain for
>> the sexy boxes
>> You folks don't know how bad I wish I knew how to register .ru domains
>>
>>
>> wbr>58b0ee3c271281274574929!
>>
>>
>> !DSPAM:2,58b0f25e285181609213196!
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Jaimesolorzaeats.com

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

I just spent twelve bucks on Jaime, I love him, but not another 36 bucks
worth

On Feb 24, 2017 8:55 PM, "Bruce Robertson" <br...@pooh.com> wrote:

> .ru is $36/year on AWS.
>
> On 2/24/17 7:38 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> .ru wasn't available.
> Anybody have some spare space for a pointer to house Jaime recipes
> Give Jaime, or the list access.
> I think Google domains comes with a blog.
> This just needs a permanent space to archive the food images, any recipes
> he shares, and possibly enclosureporn.jaimesolorzaeats.com subdomain for
> the sexy boxes
> You folks don't know how bad I wish I knew how to register .ru domains
>
>
> !DSPAM:2,58b0ee3c271281274574929!
>
>
>

[AFMUG] Jaimesolorzaeats.com

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

.ru wasn't available.
Anybody have some spare space for a pointer to house Jaime recipes
Give Jaime, or the list access.
I think Google domains comes with a blog.
This just needs a permanent space to archive the food images, any recipes
he shares, and possibly enclosureporn.jaimesolorzaeats.com subdomain for
the sexy boxes
You folks don't know how bad I wish I knew how to register .ru domains

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

It sucks for you this list is publicly archived

On Feb 24, 2017 5:45 PM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:

> So all we need to do is to soak a picture of Agent Orange's ass in VX, and
> drop it on the hole 1 tee at Mar a Lago. Then Agent Orange would do himself
> in when he picked up the picture to take a sniff.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 2/24/2017 3:39 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> Hello, does anybody care about the story that North Korea is believed to
> have carried out an assassination in a Malaysian airport using VX?  And it
> is believed they purposely did it in a way to demonstrate to the world and
> especially the U.S. their capability and willingness to use the banned
> chemical weapon?  Oh, and to piss off their only two friends in the world,
> Malaysia and China.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

It sucks we had a bitch for 8 years, a man would have actually changed law
instead of limbo, like how he fucked the immigrants.

On Feb 24, 2017 5:44 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

> I thought the top story was Spicer saying they will crackdown at the
> Federal level more on rec marijuana? I mean, it's only funding schools,
> creating jobs, and paying for roads in Colorado... No big deal.
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 5:39 PM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:
>
>> Something is wrong when the top news story today is Spicey banning some
>> major news outlets from his WH press conference.  Not that it isn’t
>> disturbing, but …
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello, does anybody care about the story that North Korea is believed to
>> have carried out an assassination in a Malaysian airport using VX?  And it
>> is believed they purposely did it in a way to demonstrate to the world and
>> especially the U.S. their capability and willingness to use the banned
>> chemical weapon?  Oh, and to piss off their only two friends in the world,
>> Malaysia and China.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kim Jong Un is probably wondering, what do I have to do to make the front
>> page?  I launched a ballistic missile toward Japan while Trump was meeting
>> with the PM of Japan.  Then I had my half brother assassinated in public in
>> a foreign airport using 2-part (battlefield weaponized) VX nerve agent.
>> And all the Americans care about is speeches at CPAC and who was disinvited
>> to Spicey’s press conference.  And whether Dippin Dots are the ice cream of
>> the future.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Forrest
>> Christian (List Account)
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 5:19 PM
>> *To:* af 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>>
>>
>> You've hit on a lot of my frustration with the R's and D's.
>>
>>
>>
>> Add to that the fact that they have convinced the american public that
>> the only viable option is either an 'R' or a 'D' and you pretty much sum it
>> up.
>>
>>
>>
>> For the record, I didn't vote for either a 'R' or a 'D' the last
>> election.   I hoped to be part of the solution where we consider other
>> alternatives as well.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>> There was an episode of the Star Trek TV series titled “Let That Be Your
>> Last Battlefield” about two warring aliens that appeared identical except
>> one was black on one side and white on the other, while the other was the
>> reverse.  The difference was all important to the aliens, but the
>> Enterprise crew could hardly tell them apart.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think of that when people immediately identify someone as left or
>> right, Democrat or Republican, Shia or Sunni.  As if their faces were
>> painted a certain way so you can immediately tell.  And once you know their
>> political party or religious sect, that’s all you need to know.  TV is that
>> way, if they are interviewing someone, the most important thing is to have
>> a graphic that tells you if they are a D or R.  It’s like a sporting event,
>> you need to know what team someone is on, and then can cheer or boo
>> accordingly.
>>
>>
>>
>> Our political parties take themselves way too seriously, they seem to
>> believe people are born either D or R and that party owns them.  The
>> parties don’t seem capable of running capable candidates for office and
>> governing well in order to earn votes.  But when they eek out an election
>> victory, they proclaim it a landslide and believe they have a mandate.
>> Rather than accept that voters hated the other guys a little more.  This
>> time.
>>
>>
>>
>> It’s kind of ironic with Trump and Putin in the news, neither of whom
>> really care about ideology, it’s all about power and personality.  Yet we
>> still want it to be a story about left vs right, my party vs your party.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 9:51 AM
>>
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeahbut they are democrats so they are leftists so they are inherently
>> truthful and trustyworthy...
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>>
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 7:45 AM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>>
>>
>> The statements come from representatives of the "Sweden Democrats"
>> party.  Skim the wikipedia article about who they are.
>>
>>
>>
>> Some choice quotes:
>>
>> "The party had its roots in Swedish fascism[15]
>>  and
>> was a part of the white supremacy
>>  movement;[16]
>> 
>> "
>>
>> "The Sweden Democrats, however, remain isolated in the Riksdag because
>> the other parties are staunchly maintaining a policy of refusing
>> cooperation 

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Show me this report from the fbi Jaime, if need be do a foia. I don't want
a news article, I want to see the report you reference. And Wal-Mart has
instant. I don't know if that's acceptable for tamales.

On Feb 24, 2017 5:41 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> No...Racist fueled crap is up according to law enforcement but of course
> since Crump is attacking even FBI to misdirect his lackeys most right wing
> folks don't buy itMark my words, he is not uniting the country, just
> folks who want to believe they fucked up voting for him.  Glad to see not
> all folks buy his bullshit.
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 4:30 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
> You think they have escalated in the past month?
>
> We will always have ignorant rednecks, add alcohol and a gun... this is
> nothing new.  Just more widely and instantly broadcast.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 4:13 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>
> One of the engineers shot in Kansas studied at UTEP.  I want to see
> the spin on this one...Lots of ostriches out there denying hate crimes have
> escalated since piece of chicken shit got elected..
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 3:56 PM, "Darren Shea"  wrote:
>
> All these groups are a bunch of granfalloons!
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 10:38 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>
>
>
> It's because people are tribal. They want to belong to a group. Spewing a
> popular opinion in the echo chamber of that group brings acceptance and
> validation.
>
>
>
> It's no different than supporting a sports team owned by someone not from
> the area with players that change every year yet somehow people feel like
> it's "their team".
>
>
>
> By labeling people, you apply blanket ideas to them and put them in this
> little box. It dehumanizes them, and makes them easier to attack.
>
>
>
> It'd fucking stupid, and it's the cancer of our democracy and country.
>
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 10:32 AM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:
>
> There was an episode of the Star Trek TV series titled “Let That Be Your
> Last Battlefield” about two warring aliens that appeared identical except
> one was black on one side and white on the other, while the other was the
> reverse.  The difference was all important to the aliens, but the
> Enterprise crew could hardly tell them apart.
>
>
>
> I think of that when people immediately identify someone as left or right,
> Democrat or Republican, Shia or Sunni.  As if their faces were painted a
> certain way so you can immediately tell.  And once you know their political
> party or religious sect, that’s all you need to know.  TV is that way, if
> they are interviewing someone, the most important thing is to have a
> graphic that tells you if they are a D or R.  It’s like a sporting event,
> you need to know what team someone is on, and then can cheer or boo
> accordingly.
>
>
>
> Our political parties take themselves way too seriously, they seem to
> believe people are born either D or R and that party owns them.  The
> parties don’t seem capable of running capable candidates for office and
> governing well in order to earn votes.  But when they eek out an election
> victory, they proclaim it a landslide and believe they have a mandate.
> Rather than accept that voters hated the other guys a little more.  This
> time.
>
>
>
> It’s kind of ironic with Trump and Putin in the news, neither of whom
> really care about ideology, it’s all about power and personality.  Yet we
> still want it to be a story about left vs right, my party vs your party.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 9:51 AM
>
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>
>
>
> Yeahbut they are democrats so they are leftists so they are inherently
> truthful and trustyworthy...
>
>
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 7:45 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>
>
>
> The statements come from representatives of the "Sweden Democrats" party.
> Skim the wikipedia article about who they are.
>
>
>
> Some choice quotes:
>
> "The party had its roots in Swedish fascism[15]
>  and
> was a part of the white supremacy
>  movement;[16]
> 
> "
>
> "The Sweden Democrats, however, remain isolated in the Riksdag because
> the other parties are staunchly maintaining a policy of refusing
> cooperation 
> with them.[25]
> "
>
> "The Sweden Democrats believe that the current Swedish 

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

This is Fucking nuts. Now one of the ladies is saying she thought this was
part of one of those internet prank shows, that the other times they did it
with water she didn't know it was training, she just thought this was
another one for the video.

Anything to do with north Korea, how do you know what's true and what's
not, even CNN couldn't figure out a spin on this

On Feb 24, 2017 5:39 PM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:

Something is wrong when the top news story today is Spicey banning some
major news outlets from his WH press conference.  Not that it isn’t
disturbing, but …



Hello, does anybody care about the story that North Korea is believed to
have carried out an assassination in a Malaysian airport using VX?  And it
is believed they purposely did it in a way to demonstrate to the world and
especially the U.S. their capability and willingness to use the banned
chemical weapon?  Oh, and to piss off their only two friends in the world,
Malaysia and China.



Kim Jong Un is probably wondering, what do I have to do to make the front
page?  I launched a ballistic missile toward Japan while Trump was meeting
with the PM of Japan.  Then I had my half brother assassinated in public in
a foreign airport using 2-part (battlefield weaponized) VX nerve agent.
And all the Americans care about is speeches at CPAC and who was disinvited
to Spicey’s press conference.  And whether Dippin Dots are the ice cream of
the future.





*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Forrest Christian
(List Account)
*Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 5:19 PM
*To:* af 

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling



You've hit on a lot of my frustration with the R's and D's.



Add to that the fact that they have convinced the american public that the
only viable option is either an 'R' or a 'D' and you pretty much sum it up.



For the record, I didn't vote for either a 'R' or a 'D' the last election.
  I hoped to be part of the solution where we consider other alternatives
as well.





On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

There was an episode of the Star Trek TV series titled “Let That Be Your
Last Battlefield” about two warring aliens that appeared identical except
one was black on one side and white on the other, while the other was the
reverse.  The difference was all important to the aliens, but the
Enterprise crew could hardly tell them apart.



I think of that when people immediately identify someone as left or right,
Democrat or Republican, Shia or Sunni.  As if their faces were painted a
certain way so you can immediately tell.  And once you know their political
party or religious sect, that’s all you need to know.  TV is that way, if
they are interviewing someone, the most important thing is to have a
graphic that tells you if they are a D or R.  It’s like a sporting event,
you need to know what team someone is on, and then can cheer or boo
accordingly.



Our political parties take themselves way too seriously, they seem to
believe people are born either D or R and that party owns them.  The
parties don’t seem capable of running capable candidates for office and
governing well in order to earn votes.  But when they eek out an election
victory, they proclaim it a landslide and believe they have a mandate.
Rather than accept that voters hated the other guys a little more.  This
time.



It’s kind of ironic with Trump and Putin in the news, neither of whom
really care about ideology, it’s all about power and personality.  Yet we
still want it to be a story about left vs right, my party vs your party.





*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 9:51 AM


*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling



Yeahbut they are democrats so they are leftists so they are inherently
truthful and trustyworthy...



*From:* Adam Moffett

*Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 7:45 AM

*To:* af@afmug.com

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling



The statements come from representatives of the "Sweden Democrats" party.
Skim the wikipedia article about who they are.



Some choice quotes:

"The party had its roots in Swedish fascism[15]
 and was
a part of the white supremacy
 movement;[16]

"

"The Sweden Democrats, however, remain isolated in the Riksdag because the
other parties are staunchly maintaining a policy of refusing cooperation
 with them.[25]
"

"The Sweden Democrats believe that the current Swedish immigration
 and integration
policies have been a failure. They oppose integration because they believe
that integration involves "meeting in 

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

I don't understand the violence against bitcoin. Bitcoin is definitely not
a white conservative thing. But every time bitcoin is mentioned, antifa
goes nuclear. Is there a reason for this, or is it just liberal buffoonery
similar to a green frog representing nazis?

On Feb 24, 2017 5:37 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

> There is a very vocal segment of the population, (just as extreme as the
> idiot kids who fucked up Starbucks and maced a girl with a "MBGA" hat on at
> Berkley), that feel like they now have someone they identify with. The
> "King of the Assholes".
>
>  It started for them with 8 years of Obama (where they felt repressed),
> and now they have an someone they believe believes in the same things they
> do.
>
> This will get worse over the next 4-8 years.
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 5:30 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
>> You think they have escalated in the past month?
>>
>> We will always have ignorant rednecks, add alcohol and a gun... this is
>> nothing new.  Just more widely and instantly broadcast.
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 4:13 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>> One of the engineers shot in Kansas studied at UTEP.  I want to see
>> the spin on this one...Lots of ostriches out there denying hate crimes have
>> escalated since piece of chicken shit got elected..
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2017 3:56 PM, "Darren Shea"  wrote:
>>
>> All these groups are a bunch of granfalloons!
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 10:38 AM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>>
>>
>> It's because people are tribal. They want to belong to a group. Spewing a
>> popular opinion in the echo chamber of that group brings acceptance and
>> validation.
>>
>>
>>
>> It's no different than supporting a sports team owned by someone not from
>> the area with players that change every year yet somehow people feel like
>> it's "their team".
>>
>>
>>
>> By labeling people, you apply blanket ideas to them and put them in this
>> little box. It dehumanizes them, and makes them easier to attack.
>>
>>
>>
>> It'd fucking stupid, and it's the cancer of our democracy and country.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2017 10:32 AM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:
>>
>> There was an episode of the Star Trek TV series titled “Let That Be Your
>> Last Battlefield” about two warring aliens that appeared identical except
>> one was black on one side and white on the other, while the other was the
>> reverse.  The difference was all important to the aliens, but the
>> Enterprise crew could hardly tell them apart.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think of that when people immediately identify someone as left or
>> right, Democrat or Republican, Shia or Sunni.  As if their faces were
>> painted a certain way so you can immediately tell.  And once you know their
>> political party or religious sect, that’s all you need to know.  TV is that
>> way, if they are interviewing someone, the most important thing is to have
>> a graphic that tells you if they are a D or R.  It’s like a sporting event,
>> you need to know what team someone is on, and then can cheer or boo
>> accordingly.
>>
>>
>>
>> Our political parties take themselves way too seriously, they seem to
>> believe people are born either D or R and that party owns them.  The
>> parties don’t seem capable of running capable candidates for office and
>> governing well in order to earn votes.  But when they eek out an election
>> victory, they proclaim it a landslide and believe they have a mandate.
>> Rather than accept that voters hated the other guys a little more.  This
>> time.
>>
>>
>>
>> It’s kind of ironic with Trump and Putin in the news, neither of whom
>> really care about ideology, it’s all about power and personality.  Yet we
>> still want it to be a story about left vs right, my party vs your party.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 9:51 AM
>>
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeahbut they are democrats so they are leftists so they are inherently
>> truthful and trustyworthy...
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>>
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 7:45 AM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>>
>>
>> The statements come from representatives of the "Sweden Democrats"
>> party.  Skim the wikipedia article about who they are.
>>
>>
>>
>> Some choice quotes:
>>
>> "The party had its roots in Swedish fascism[15]
>>  and
>> was a part of the white supremacy
>>  movement;[16]
>> 
>> "
>>
>> "The Sweden Democrats, however, remain 

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

We will always have idiots period. No label required. The only issue is
ever whether there are direct marching orders or not.



Oddly enough, mass shootings (current definition being white guys shoots a
bunch of people) are down right now. But it's still cold.

On Feb 24, 2017 5:30 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

You think they have escalated in the past month?

We will always have ignorant rednecks, add alcohol and a gun... this is
nothing new.  Just more widely and instantly broadcast.

*From:* Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 4:13 PM
*To:* Animal Farm

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

One of the engineers shot in Kansas studied at UTEP.  I want to see the
spin on this one...Lots of ostriches out there denying hate crimes have
escalated since piece of chicken shit got elected..

On Feb 24, 2017 3:56 PM, "Darren Shea"  wrote:

All these groups are a bunch of granfalloons!



*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
*Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 10:38 AM

*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling



It's because people are tribal. They want to belong to a group. Spewing a
popular opinion in the echo chamber of that group brings acceptance and
validation.



It's no different than supporting a sports team owned by someone not from
the area with players that change every year yet somehow people feel like
it's "their team".



By labeling people, you apply blanket ideas to them and put them in this
little box. It dehumanizes them, and makes them easier to attack.



It'd fucking stupid, and it's the cancer of our democracy and country.



On Feb 24, 2017 10:32 AM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:

There was an episode of the Star Trek TV series titled “Let That Be Your
Last Battlefield” about two warring aliens that appeared identical except
one was black on one side and white on the other, while the other was the
reverse.  The difference was all important to the aliens, but the
Enterprise crew could hardly tell them apart.



I think of that when people immediately identify someone as left or right,
Democrat or Republican, Shia or Sunni.  As if their faces were painted a
certain way so you can immediately tell.  And once you know their political
party or religious sect, that’s all you need to know.  TV is that way, if
they are interviewing someone, the most important thing is to have a
graphic that tells you if they are a D or R.  It’s like a sporting event,
you need to know what team someone is on, and then can cheer or boo
accordingly.



Our political parties take themselves way too seriously, they seem to
believe people are born either D or R and that party owns them.  The
parties don’t seem capable of running capable candidates for office and
governing well in order to earn votes.  But when they eek out an election
victory, they proclaim it a landslide and believe they have a mandate.
Rather than accept that voters hated the other guys a little more.  This
time.



It’s kind of ironic with Trump and Putin in the news, neither of whom
really care about ideology, it’s all about power and personality.  Yet we
still want it to be a story about left vs right, my party vs your party.





*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 9:51 AM


*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling



Yeahbut they are democrats so they are leftists so they are inherently
truthful and trustyworthy...



*From:* Adam Moffett

*Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 7:45 AM

*To:* af@afmug.com

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling



The statements come from representatives of the "Sweden Democrats" party.
Skim the wikipedia article about who they are.



Some choice quotes:

"The party had its roots in Swedish fascism[15]
 and was
a part of the white supremacy
 movement;[16]

"

"The Sweden Democrats, however, remain isolated in the Riksdag because the
other parties are staunchly maintaining a policy of refusing cooperation
 with them.[25]
"

"The Sweden Democrats believe that the current Swedish immigration
 and integration
policies have been a failure. They oppose integration because they believe
that integration involves "meeting in the middle" and do not think
that the indigenous
Swedish people  should have to bear
the burden "



The section on ideologies is interesting too.  They might as well have
"Make Sweden Great Again" hats.





-- Original Message --

From: "Chuck McCown" 

To: af@afmug.com

Sent: 2/23/2017 4:15:29 PM

Subject: 

Re: [AFMUG] form 477 filing

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

this is a problem, they used their last spare commodore 64 to bring the IRS
website online and now this one is down

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Carlos Alcantar <car...@race.com> wrote:

> actually you are correct re read the email.  no date as of yet.
>
>
>
>
> Carlos Alcantar
>
> Race Communications / Race Team Member
>
> 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
>
> Phone: +1 415 376 3314 <(415)%20376-3314> / car...@race.com / http://
> www.race.com
>
> --
> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Jay Weekley <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 1:06:59 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] form 477 filing
>
> Mine says the March 1 deadline has been extended and the new one will be
> announced at a later time.  I wonder what their deadline for getting the
> website operational and what the penalty for missing that deadline is.
>
> Carlos Alcantar wrote:
> >
> > looks like we just got an email about 477 submittal being extended
> > till March 1.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Carlos Alcantar
> >
> > Race Communications / Race Team Member
> >
> > 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
> >
> > Phone: +1 415 376 3314 <(415)%20376-3314> / car...@race.com <
> mailto:car...@race.com <car...@race.com>> /
> > http://www.race.com <http://www.race.com/>
> >
> >
> > 
> > *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Jeremy
> > <jeremysmi...@gmail.com>
> > *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 5:04:39 PM
> > *To:* af@afmug.com
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] form 477 filing
> > The last year that this happened they extended the deadline.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:35 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
> > <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > sweet!! no more back door to ROWs
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Jordan Gregory
> > <jgreg...@hive-wireless.com <mailto:jgreg...@hive-wireless.com
> <jgreg...@hive-wireless.com>>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > So I still need to file ... not sure what is up. Interface is
> > still unavailable.
> >
> > Should I do it manually?
> >
> > Thank You,
> >
> > Jordan Gregory
> > Founder / CEO
> > Hive Wireless, LLC
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Dave <dmilho...@wletc.com
> > <mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com <dmilho...@wletc.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > Exactly, I already filed so I dont know why I got another
> > notice LOL
> >
> >
> >
> > On 02/23/2017 08:18 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> >> Seven minutes after I get an e-mail from the FCC
> >> reminding me to file.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -
> >> Mike Hammett
> >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+
> IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.
> com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL%3E%3Chttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb%3E%3Chttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions%3E%3Chttps://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> >
> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.
> linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://
> twitter.com/mdwestix>
> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> >>
> >>
> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> >> --
> --
> >> *From: *"Dave" <dmilho...@wletc.com>
> >> <mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com <dmilho...@wletc.com>>
> >> *To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com> <mailto:af@afmug.com
> <af@afmug.com>>
> >> *Sent: *Thursday, Febru

Re: [AFMUG] Readynet Routers

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

didnt ready net go under?

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 7:38 PM, Jason Wilson 
wrote:

> It looks like ReadyNet routers are pretty much the same device as the
> R200/201.  Is there anyway to flash them with the cambium software and have
> them connect to CNmastreo?
>
> J
>
> Jason Wilson
> Remotely Located
> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736>
> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
> www.remotelylocated.com
>



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part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

british news in general seems alot more centered, but they dont have
"freedom of the press" so there is a little more integrity in journalism
since they cant just lie unabated

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 7:34 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> I don't watch those.  Zaz...I copy links from Google News to harass you
> guys...But I watch BBC, Deustch world, Japanese and Mexican news channels
> along with local station  And I don't know what it is to be
> bored...Wife in good mood.. maybe I can get recipe from herTrump is
> still not on my Christmas card list
>
> On Feb 23, 2017 6:08 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
> If BS detector is off, how can you access MSNBC, CNN or Washington Post?
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 5:47 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>
> Really? None of my devices can access Fox News...And I have my bullshit
> detector on lowest setting
>
> On Feb 23, 2017 1:48 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
>> One for Jaime:
>> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/23/sweden-democrats-
>> trump-was-right.html
>>
>> *From:* Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:42 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>> Oh, and I had a business partner for 30 years that was trans yes  I
>> have known trans people
>>
>> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:33 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>>
>> Once you know someone who is transgender, it turns out not to be like
>> that at all.  There are exceptions to everything, but if the first thing
>> that comes to your mind is identifying as a girl to shower with the girls,
>> then probably you don’t have any friends or relatives that are
>> transgender.  Well, that is unlikely, more likely you just don’t know they
>> are trans.
>>
>>
>>
>> And school kids unfortunately take the brunt of this.  Anywhere else, are
>> there really going to be bathroom police checking birth certificates?
>> There’s a creepy thought.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:52 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>>
>>
>> Bored.
>>
>> If this was mid 1970s and if I discovered that the president said I could
>> shower with the girls at school it I “identified as a girl”, I sure as hell
>> would have identified as a girl
>>
>>
>>
>> I have not heard a single commentator address this issue.  Boys will be
>> boys.  What do the lgbtqrstuv folks have as an answer to this situation?
>>
>>
>>
>> They don’t seem to be interested in protecting the rights of my
>> granddaughter to not have the boy’s football team in there after volleyball
>> practice.
>>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

dude, if its on fox news its true, they said so

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Really? None of my devices can access Fox News...And I have my bullshit
> detector on lowest setting
>
> On Feb 23, 2017 1:48 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
>> One for Jaime:
>> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/23/sweden-democrats-
>> trump-was-right.html
>>
>> *From:* Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:42 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>> Oh, and I had a business partner for 30 years that was trans yes  I
>> have known trans people
>>
>> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:33 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>>
>> Once you know someone who is transgender, it turns out not to be like
>> that at all.  There are exceptions to everything, but if the first thing
>> that comes to your mind is identifying as a girl to shower with the girls,
>> then probably you don’t have any friends or relatives that are
>> transgender.  Well, that is unlikely, more likely you just don’t know they
>> are trans.
>>
>>
>>
>> And school kids unfortunately take the brunt of this.  Anywhere else, are
>> there really going to be bathroom police checking birth certificates?
>> There’s a creepy thought.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:52 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>>
>>
>> Bored.
>>
>> If this was mid 1970s and if I discovered that the president said I could
>> shower with the girls at school it I “identified as a girl”, I sure as hell
>> would have identified as a girl
>>
>>
>>
>> I have not heard a single commentator address this issue.  Boys will be
>> boys.  What do the lgbtqrstuv folks have as an answer to this situation?
>>
>>
>>
>> They don’t seem to be interested in protecting the rights of my
>> granddaughter to not have the boy’s football team in there after volleyball
>> practice.
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] form 477 filing

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

sweet!! no more back door to ROWs

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Jordan Gregory  wrote:

> So I still need to file ... not sure what is up. Interface is still
> unavailable.
>
> Should I do it manually?
>
> Thank You,
>
> Jordan Gregory
> Founder / CEO
> Hive Wireless, LLC
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Dave  wrote:
>
>> Exactly, I already filed so I dont know why I got another notice LOL
>>
>>
>>
>> On 02/23/2017 08:18 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>
>> Seven minutes after I get an e-mail from the FCC reminding me to file.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Dave"  
>> *To: *"Animal Farm"  
>> *Sent: *Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:17:55 AM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] form 477 filing
>>
>> seems the filing interface is offline till further notice so hopefully
>> its back up before march 1st :)
>>
>>  https://apps2.fcc.gov/form477/login.xhtml
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

life is easy, I identify two genders, he/ and she, when actual science from
actual scientists who follow actual principles of science say otherwise,
Ill listen (genetic anamolies are not examples of new, theyre failed
mutations)


On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:07 PM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> I am Darth Tater
>
> On 2/23/2017 4:32 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Ha, that is fun indeed.
> I wouldn�t mind using Viceroy, or perhaps His Eruditeness.� Grand
> poobah works too.�
> �
> *From:* Dan Petermann
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:03 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
> �
> I like this guys response to that issue at UM. I imagine he really pissed
> off his professors.�
> �
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/education/wp/2016/10/
> 07/a-university-told-students-to-select-their-gender-
> pronouns-one-chose-his-majesty/
> �
> On Feb 23, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Jason McKemie  com> wrote:
>
> Where it gets really crazy is when they start passing laws that you
> legally have to refer to someone by a pronoun of their choosing.� They
> have something like this in Canada right now.
> �
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> I know it will be tried.�
>> �
>> We drilled a hole from the boy�s shower to the girls� shower.�
>> First chance I got to look through the hole all I saw was Penni
>> Depriest�s eye looking in on me.� Then they put a bolt through the
>> hole� I felt like I was part of the Porky�s movie.�
>> �
>> I have no clue how to attempt to help someone that is trans with this
>> problem and not cause much more troubles for others.� Force the schools
>> to build third facilities with a question mark over the doors?� I wonder
>> how the military does it in the barracks?
>> �
>> And if there was bathroom police checking birth certificates, does that
>> really matter as it may say one thing on the certificate but they recently
>> decided to identify as something else.� Isn�t there one �identity�
>> that is �fluid� or some such thing?
>> �
>> �
>> �
>> �
>> �
>> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:33 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>> �
>>
>> Once you know someone who is transgender, it turns out not to be like
>> that at all.� There are exceptions to everything, but if the first thing
>> that comes to your mind is identifying as a girl to shower with the girls,
>> then probably you don�t have any friends or relatives that are
>> transgender.� Well, that is unlikely, more likely you just don�t know
>> they are trans.
>>
>> �
>>
>> And school kids unfortunately take the brunt of this.� Anywhere else,
>> are there really going to be bathroom police checking birth
>> certificates?� There�s a creepy thought.
>>
>> �
>>
>> �
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:52 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>> �
>>
>> Bored.
>>
>> If this was mid 1970s and if I discovered that the president said I could
>> shower with the girls at school it I �identified as a girl�, I sure as
>> hell would have identified as a girl
>>
>> �
>>
>> I have not heard a single commentator address this issue.� Boys will be
>> boys.� What do the lgbtqrstuv folks have as an answer to this situation?
>>
>> �
>>
>> They don�t seem to be interested in protecting the rights of my
>> granddaughter to not have the boy�s football team in there after
>> volleyball practice.�
>>
> �
>
> �
>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP1000 Heater POE Polarity

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

yes it is
Dealt with that in the last cold snap
a software reboot is enough that it wont boot, just cycles, bad bad juju

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> So what happens if you do power it up with 24v?  Does it just sit there
> dumb for hours until the sun cooks it a bit?
>
> This is really only relevant if it's something like <10F when you first
> boot it up, right?  If it's booted and warm, a cold snap isn't going to
> make it go down.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:
>
>> I've finally got back to this project today, and have been running a few
>> mores test now that the radios are nice and cold in the freezer.  It
>> appears that the polarity does not matter, but the heater will not kick on
>> with <30v supplied.
>>
>> On 2/10/2017 4:40 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>> I see from the Cambium FAQ that a connectorized ePMP can take up to 20
>> minutes to heat up if it’s really, really cold outside.  That has to feel
>> like an eternity.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
>> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 10, 2017 4:32 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] EPMP1000 Heater POE Polarity
>>
>>
>>
>> Powered up just fine for us with a 750p yesterday.  Two of them.  It was
>> like 15*?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>> Where are you testing?  It's like 40 degrees outside.  I assume you are
>> testing in a freezer?
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
>>
>> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 3:47 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP1000 Heater POE Polarity
>>
>> I would like some confirmation, because I think that I'm repeating the
>> test now and coming up with different results.  Like the heater isn't
>> kicking on with either polarity now.
>>
>> On 2/10/2017 3:39 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> > You'd think after Trango's miserable experience with preheaters in
>> their 5830 series radios, no one would do that ever again.
>> >
>> > I know I didn't answer your question, but it sounds like you've already
>> answered it and are just looking for confirmation.
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
>> > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 3:13 PM
>> > To: Animal Farm 
>> > Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP1000 Heater POE Polarity
>> >
>> > I've been running some tests with Cold startup of EPMP1000 w/ sync
>> > Radios.  Does the Internal heater only function with 4/5-  7/8+?  A
>> > cold radio (18F) radio will power on but seems stuck in a reboot loop
>> > with 4/5+  7/8-  The same radio powered on and booted within 2 minutes
>> > or so with 4/5- 7/8+
>> >
>> > Power draw with 4/5+ 7/8- was around 4w, and would randomly spike to
>> around 15w The power light would stay on, but sync and ethernet lights
>> would go on and off, like it was continually rebooting.
>> >
>> > Power draw with 4/5- 7/8+ was a solid 15w for about 2 minutes with only
>> the power light on, then 4w once booted.
>> >
>> > I just presumed that since it would power on with both polarities, the
>> heater would work with both polarities as well.  It's looking like that
>> might not be the case.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
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part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

thank god for affirmative action, we wouldnt have have our youtube gems if
it werent for that

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
wrote:

> My favorite was Rep. Hank Johnson from Georgia discussing the military
> buildup in Guam.
>
>
>
> In a discussion regarding a planned military buildup on the Pacific
> island, Johnson expressed some concerns about the plans to Adm. Robert
> Willard, head of the U.S. Pacific fleet.
>
> "My fear is that the whole island will become so overly populated that it
> will tip over and capsize," Johnson said. Willard paused and replied, "We
> don't anticipate that."
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7XXVLKWd3Q
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 1:39 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics
>
>
>
> My favorite Pelosi quote was the “we have to pass the bill so we can find
> out what is in it”
>
>
>
> *From:* Rory Conaway
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 11:43 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics
>
>
>
> How come nobody here is talking about the stupid things Democrats like
> Maxine Waters or Nancy Pelosi say all the time?
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 5:57 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics
>
>
>
> I don't like him. I think he's a giant fucking loudmouth douchebag. I also
> feel like it's highly likely his shit was taken out of context in the video.
>
>
>
> On Feb 21, 2017 6:53 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Lol I thought that after I typed it.
>
>
>
>
>
> Not to change the subject, but also not wanting to corrupt the list with
> more politics threads, anybody here follow Milo yionopolis (sp)?
>
> I'm curious people's take on this guy and the current debacle. People's
> response is pretty telling about the individual.
>
>
>
> On Feb 21, 2017 3:18 PM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> I'm so glad someone else thought that =)
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us> wrote:
>
> On 2/21/17 10:29, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> dont be obtuse
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
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part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

lindsey graham
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHNtzyMn-l0
note, none of these are verified real

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 1:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> maniac mccain
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqrw2vIvBv0
>
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 1:26 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjy1nCgm9Iw there you go
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How come nobody here is talking about the stupid things Democrats like
>>> Maxine Waters or Nancy Pelosi say all the time?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 5:57 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't like him. I think he's a giant fucking loudmouth douchebag. I
>>> also feel like it's highly likely his shit was taken out of context in the
>>> video.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 21, 2017 6:53 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Lol I thought that after I typed it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Not to change the subject, but also not wanting to corrupt the list with
>>> more politics threads, anybody here follow Milo yionopolis (sp)?
>>>
>>> I'm curious people's take on this guy and the current debacle. People's
>>> response is pretty telling about the individual.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 21, 2017 3:18 PM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm so glad someone else thought that =)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2/21/17 10:29, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>
>>> dont be obtuse
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjy1nCgm9Iw there you go

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
wrote:

> How come nobody here is talking about the stupid things Democrats like
> Maxine Waters or Nancy Pelosi say all the time?
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 5:57 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics
>
>
>
> I don't like him. I think he's a giant fucking loudmouth douchebag. I also
> feel like it's highly likely his shit was taken out of context in the video.
>
>
>
> On Feb 21, 2017 6:53 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Lol I thought that after I typed it.
>
>
>
>
>
> Not to change the subject, but also not wanting to corrupt the list with
> more politics threads, anybody here follow Milo yionopolis (sp)?
>
> I'm curious people's take on this guy and the current debacle. People's
> response is pretty telling about the individual.
>
>
>
> On Feb 21, 2017 3:18 PM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> I'm so glad someone else thought that =)
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us> wrote:
>
> On 2/21/17 10:29, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> dont be obtuse
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Feral hogs

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

with the amount of damage thos hogs do, bagging 100 of them should get them
fast track citizenship for the economic benefit they provide alone

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

>
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:14 AM
> *To:* Chuck McCown
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Drone problem? Done.
>
> 2.5 million feral hogs
> Divide that by 100.  25,000
> Give 25,000 hunting permits to folks from south of the border.
> If they bag 100 hogs they get to stay and work for 5 years.
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:37 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Drone problem? Done.
>
> You would think that there is some kind of hog bait that they cannot
> resist.  Have them fall down a hole full of carbon dioxide.  Once a day
> haul them to the dog food factory.
>
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:35 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Drone problem? Done.
>
> there are a couple companies doing helicopter hunting trips for feral
> hogs, i believe you get to croak them with automatic weapons
> i cant imagine what their insurance premiums are
>
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> I think shooting an RPG at a feral hog would be a pretty cool live video
>> game.
>>
>> *From:* Dave
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:32 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Drone problem? Done.
>>
>> OMG really!
>> Add a couple small tactical missiles and we got us a precise target
>> eliminator :)
>>
>>
>> On 02/22/2017 09:47 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>
>> How about a drone with a flame thrower to clear trash from power lines.
>> What could possibly go wrong?
>>
>> http://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/2/17/14652556/
>> drone-fire-garbage-powerline-china
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>> On 2/21/2017 6:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>> What can Brown do for you?
>>
>> http://gizmodo.com/ups-showcases-new-delivery-drone-fucks-
>> it-all-up-1792586968
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 8:15 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Drone problem? Done.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is pretty badass.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/02/
>> 21/terrorists-are-building-drones-france-is-destroying-them-
>> with-eagles/?tid=sm_fb_term=.e3dbf2132ea6
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Drone problem? Done.

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

fresh infants... but mothers get all pissy when you use them as bait

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:37 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> You would think that there is some kind of hog bait that they cannot
> resist.  Have them fall down a hole full of carbon dioxide.  Once a day
> haul them to the dog food factory.
>
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:35 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Drone problem? Done.
>
> there are a couple companies doing helicopter hunting trips for feral
> hogs, i believe you get to croak them with automatic weapons
> i cant imagine what their insurance premiums are
>
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> I think shooting an RPG at a feral hog would be a pretty cool live video
>> game.
>>
>> *From:* Dave
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:32 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Drone problem? Done.
>>
>> OMG really!
>> Add a couple small tactical missiles and we got us a precise target
>> eliminator :)
>>
>>
>> On 02/22/2017 09:47 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>
>> How about a drone with a flame thrower to clear trash from power lines.
>> What could possibly go wrong?
>>
>> http://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/2/17/14652556/
>> drone-fire-garbage-powerline-china
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>> On 2/21/2017 6:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>> What can Brown do for you?
>>
>> http://gizmodo.com/ups-showcases-new-delivery-drone-fucks-
>> it-all-up-1792586968
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 8:15 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Drone problem? Done.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is pretty badass.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/02/
>> 21/terrorists-are-building-drones-france-is-destroying-them-
>> with-eagles/?tid=sm_fb_term=.e3dbf2132ea6
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Recommended DNS for content filtering K-12

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

we replaced a couple of those when we took over a network once. The
company, bullguard or whatever was pretty good to deal with. I didnt like
the management software that was required for the units, java based, but it
was old. The feature set was pretty slick though. FYI fortigate gives a
decent trade in discount on watchguards

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Jordan Gregory <jgreg...@hive-wireless.com
> wrote:

> I have had great luck with watchguard. Their basic security suite for all
> of their firewalls includes comprehensive web proxying and all for a
> fraction of the cost of fortigate.
>
> Hit me up off list if you want more info.
>
> Full disclosure: we resell watchguard, so I'm biased :)
>
> On Feb 22, 2017 10:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Expensive
>> but Fortigate is excellent for this, the school can also set up a youtube
>> content account to tie into the policies to control what youtube content is
>> available and whats not
>> Expensive though as it scales
>> no ip proxy bypass, no dns control bypass, locally installed certificates
>> and you can mtm inspect ssl. Its pretty hard to get around a well
>> configured fortigate
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Any kid with any smarts at all can do direct ip to proxy with no
>>> effort.  If they want to keep the kids out of the porn, then the system
>>> must be airgapped.  No real world internet connection.  Perhaps go do
>>> google searches and cache all the stuff they would be likely to need for
>>> class room assignments, then break the connection and tell them it is on
>>> the computer... go find it.
>>>
>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:11 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Recommended DNS for content filtering K-12
>>>
>>>
>>> No such thing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So ask (1) who is requiring this or (2) who is paying for this?  Then
>>> ask, what is their approved solution that they are willing to approve
>>> and/or pay for?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If this is genuinely not being pushed by some government mandate, I
>>> would question DNS as being too simplistic.  Just recently the TV news here
>>> had a story about parents show were shocked, shocked to discover their kids
>>> school-issued computers allowed them to use Google Hangouts, which the kids
>>> were using for inappropriate messages.  The idea that you can block all
>>> inappropriate content by a simple method like what DNS servers you use,
>>> seems naïve to me.  So, should the DNS servers let you go to Wikipedia, or
>>> not?  CNN is dishonest media, should that be blocked?  What about RT?  Or,
>>> for an example of what happens when you try to censor the Internet by
>>> blocking IP addresses, look at the news stories about Cogent blocking
>>> Cloudflare IP addresses associated with Pirate Bay but also causing
>>> collateral damage to other sites sharing those IPs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:44 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Recommended DNS for content filtering K-12
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What is the recommended DNS for airtight content filtering for Schools?
>>> Specially Porn block
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gino Villarini*
>>>
>>> President
>>>
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Drone problem? Done.

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

there are a couple companies doing helicopter hunting trips for feral hogs,
i believe you get to croak them with automatic weapons
i cant imagine what their insurance premiums are

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I think shooting an RPG at a feral hog would be a pretty cool live video
> game.
>
> *From:* Dave
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:32 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Drone problem? Done.
>
> OMG really!
> Add a couple small tactical missiles and we got us a precise target
> eliminator :)
>
>
> On 02/22/2017 09:47 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> How about a drone with a flame thrower to clear trash from power lines.
> What could possibly go wrong?
>
> http://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/2/17/
> 14652556/drone-fire-garbage-powerline-china
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 2/21/2017 6:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> What can Brown do for you?
>
> http://gizmodo.com/ups-showcases-new-delivery-drone-
> fucks-it-all-up-1792586968
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 8:15 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Drone problem? Done.
>
>
>
> This is pretty badass.
>
>
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/
> 02/21/terrorists-are-building-drones-france-is-destroying-
> them-with-eagles/?tid=sm_fb_term=.e3dbf2132ea6
>
>
>
> --
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Recommended DNS for content filtering K-12

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Expensive
but Fortigate is excellent for this, the school can also set up a youtube
content account to tie into the policies to control what youtube content is
available and whats not
Expensive though as it scales
no ip proxy bypass, no dns control bypass, locally installed certificates
and you can mtm inspect ssl. Its pretty hard to get around a well
configured fortigate

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Any kid with any smarts at all can do direct ip to proxy with no effort.
> If they want to keep the kids out of the porn, then the system must be
> airgapped.  No real world internet connection.  Perhaps go do google
> searches and cache all the stuff they would be likely to need for class
> room assignments, then break the connection and tell them it is on the
> computer... go find it.
>
> *From:* Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:11 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Recommended DNS for content filtering K-12
>
>
> No such thing.
>
>
>
> So ask (1) who is requiring this or (2) who is paying for this?  Then ask,
> what is their approved solution that they are willing to approve and/or pay
> for?
>
>
>
> If this is genuinely not being pushed by some government mandate, I would
> question DNS as being too simplistic.  Just recently the TV news here had a
> story about parents show were shocked, shocked to discover their kids
> school-issued computers allowed them to use Google Hangouts, which the kids
> were using for inappropriate messages.  The idea that you can block all
> inappropriate content by a simple method like what DNS servers you use,
> seems naïve to me.  So, should the DNS servers let you go to Wikipedia, or
> not?  CNN is dishonest media, should that be blocked?  What about RT?  Or,
> for an example of what happens when you try to censor the Internet by
> blocking IP addresses, look at the news stories about Cogent blocking
> Cloudflare IP addresses associated with Pirate Bay but also causing
> collateral damage to other sites sharing those IPs.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:44 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Recommended DNS for content filtering K-12
>
>
>
> What is the recommended DNS for airtight content filtering for Schools?
> Specially Porn block
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
>
> President
>
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

what could go wrong with that?

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Great All we need is more drunk yahoos with aerial artillery...
>
> On Feb 22, 2017 7:23 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> Hog killing drones seem like a new business opportunity.
>>
>> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 7:50 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics
>>
>>
>> Nope.  The place I go in Carol Stream is Burrito Parrilla Mexicana, but
>> avoid the tamales.  Sad.
>>
>>
>>
>> I see Texas is in the news today:
>>
>> http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fearing-feral-hog-apocalypse-tex
>> as-announces-drastic-measures/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 7:52 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics
>>
>>
>>
>> Dry... Brownish yellow I think there is a place in Aurora that Ken
>> knows sells authentic stuff
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2017 6:47 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Has to come from a Mexican aunt.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Btw, where does one find corn husks in central Illinois in February. And
>> are these green or dry?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2017 7:43 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Will try Bill, will try..
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2017 6:14 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> That's going to cost you a masa recipe
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2017 7:05 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> More Trump and Spicer crap
>>
>> https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.was
>> hingtonpost.com%2Famphtml%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Fwp%2F2017%2F02
>> %2F21%2Fin-one-exchange-sean-spicer-demonstrated-why-theres
>> -skepticism-about-trumps-claims-of-tolerance%2F#pt0-809010
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2017 5:53 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Lol I thought that after I typed it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Not to change the subject, but also not wanting to corrupt the list with
>> more politics threads, anybody here follow Milo yionopolis (sp)?
>>
>> I'm curious people's take on this guy and the current debacle. People's
>> response is pretty telling about the individual.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2017 3:18 PM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm so glad someone else thought that =)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us>
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 2/21/17 10:29, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>
>> dont be obtuse
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.