Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

[Jeremy]

Yeah, straying off-topic but our 6GHz link is actually a Trango that we own
and are moving around as we upgrade to higher capacity backhauls.

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 5:49 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> The older ubiquiti radios can be set to "compliance test" mode, and then
> you can use any channel that the chipset supports (not legally, obviously).
> On later firmware, they get rid of that option, and the new radios are
> locked to the US/Canada country code, so they're a lot harder to do
> blatantly illegal stuff with (unless you get the world wide version, which
> you aren't supposed to be able to buy in the US, but it's not hard to get
> one if you really want to). I don't think you can get too far into the 6ghz
> range with a normal Rocket, but they did (maybe still do... ) make an M6
> version for the Russian market...
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 5:35 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> I have picked Ubiquiti 6GHz links on a rocket I use for spectral analysis
>> that has 4900 to 6xxx ...I was given it when I replaced that Rocket with
>> Cambium EPMP  client was using ,5740 on Rocket...claims he did know why
>> it had all those channelsguess he felt guilty and gave it to
>> me...another tool in my bag...
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 10:58 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> Pop the cover on the AF5x, there is a tiny screwdriver adjustment marked
>>> “freq”.  Just tweak it up to 6 GHz and you are good to go.  Saves lots of
>>> money that way.  
>>>
>>> *From:* Jeremy
>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 8, 2018 10:23 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>>>
>>> I have an AF5X on 3' UBNT dishes (x-pol modified) that does 300x100 at
>>> 19 miles.  It is about to be swapped for 6GHz though.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 4:48 PM, Rory Conaway 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mimosa B5c can pull 500Mbps to 1Gbps on that type of link depending on
>>>> how much spectrum you want to use.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rory
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 2:32 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, that explains everything.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Chris Fabien
>>>>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 3:28 PM
>>>>
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3ft... Jirous on one side and one of the WB Optic on the other actually!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 5:17 PM  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Wow, what size dishes?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Chris Fabien
>>>>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 3:16 PM
>>>>
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chuck we just did a 13 mile link using AF5XHD, getting about 350mbps in
>>>> both directions using 60mhz and 50/50 ratio.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 6, 2018 2:42 PM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, if you go with 3' dishes you might be getting close to $1500 in
>>>> cost, but that'll easily cover it with 2 footers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The only parts involved are going to be the dishes and the radios, so
>>>> it's pretty simple to price... well, I suppose mounts and surge suppressors
>>>> too, but I assume you know where to get those...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:14 PM,  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, that is what I am looking for.  Actually not sure yet what up
>>>> down ratio the customer will be buying yet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If I tell the owners $1500 for parts then I should be good to go?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>>>>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 11:47 AM
>>>>
>>>> *To:* af
&

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

[Mathew Howard]

The older ubiquiti radios can be set to "compliance test" mode, and then
you can use any channel that the chipset supports (not legally, obviously).
On later firmware, they get rid of that option, and the new radios are
locked to the US/Canada country code, so they're a lot harder to do
blatantly illegal stuff with (unless you get the world wide version, which
you aren't supposed to be able to buy in the US, but it's not hard to get
one if you really want to). I don't think you can get too far into the 6ghz
range with a normal Rocket, but they did (maybe still do... ) make an M6
version for the Russian market...


On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 5:35 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> I have picked Ubiquiti 6GHz links on a rocket I use for spectral analysis
> that has 4900 to 6xxx ...I was given it when I replaced that Rocket with
> Cambium EPMP  client was using ,5740 on Rocket...claims he did know why
> it had all those channelsguess he felt guilty and gave it to
> me...another tool in my bag...
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 10:58 AM  wrote:
>
>> Pop the cover on the AF5x, there is a tiny screwdriver adjustment marked
>> “freq”.  Just tweak it up to 6 GHz and you are good to go.  Saves lots of
>> money that way.  
>>
>> *From:* Jeremy
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 8, 2018 10:23 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>>
>> I have an AF5X on 3' UBNT dishes (x-pol modified) that does 300x100 at 19
>> miles.  It is about to be swapped for 6GHz though.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 4:48 PM, Rory Conaway 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Mimosa B5c can pull 500Mbps to 1Gbps on that type of link depending on
>>> how much spectrum you want to use.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 2:32 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, that explains everything.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Chris Fabien
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 3:28 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 3ft... Jirous on one side and one of the WB Optic on the other actually!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 5:17 PM  wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow, what size dishes?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Chris Fabien
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 3:16 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck we just did a 13 mile link using AF5XHD, getting about 350mbps in
>>> both directions using 60mhz and 50/50 ratio.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 6, 2018 2:42 PM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, if you go with 3' dishes you might be getting close to $1500 in
>>> cost, but that'll easily cover it with 2 footers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The only parts involved are going to be the dishes and the radios, so
>>> it's pretty simple to price... well, I suppose mounts and surge suppressors
>>> too, but I assume you know where to get those...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:14 PM,  wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, that is what I am looking for.  Actually not sure yet what up
>>> down ratio the customer will be buying yet.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If I tell the owners $1500 for parts then I should be good to go?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 11:47 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* af
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That's because airfibers use a fixed up/down ratio (75/25, in this
>>> case). If you needed 50/50, this link would only be get you somewhere
>>> around 140Mbps each way.
>>>
>>> Signal is just a little too low to get 8X (256qam) on this case, but I
>>> probably could if I changed them to the new HD version, since they can get
>>> a little higher power at any given modulation, and they can achieve higher
>>> modulations at lower signal levels... it might even be able to do 1024qam
>>> (it probably could with 

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

[Jaime Solorza]

I have picked Ubiquiti 6GHz links on a rocket I use for spectral analysis
that has 4900 to 6xxx ...I was given it when I replaced that Rocket with
Cambium EPMP  client was using ,5740 on Rocket...claims he did know why
it had all those channelsguess he felt guilty and gave it to
me...another tool in my bag...

Jaime Solorza

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 10:58 AM  wrote:

> Pop the cover on the AF5x, there is a tiny screwdriver adjustment marked
> “freq”.  Just tweak it up to 6 GHz and you are good to go.  Saves lots of
> money that way.  
>
> *From:* Jeremy
> *Sent:* Friday, June 8, 2018 10:23 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>
> I have an AF5X on 3' UBNT dishes (x-pol modified) that does 300x100 at 19
> miles.  It is about to be swapped for 6GHz though.
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 4:48 PM, Rory Conaway 
> wrote:
>
>> Mimosa B5c can pull 500Mbps to 1Gbps on that type of link depending on
>> how much spectrum you want to use.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 2:32 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, that explains everything.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Chris Fabien
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 3:28 PM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>>
>>
>>
>> 3ft... Jirous on one side and one of the WB Optic on the other actually!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 5:17 PM  wrote:
>>
>> Wow, what size dishes?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Chris Fabien
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 3:16 PM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>>
>>
>>
>> Chuck we just did a 13 mile link using AF5XHD, getting about 350mbps in
>> both directions using 60mhz and 50/50 ratio.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 6, 2018 2:42 PM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, if you go with 3' dishes you might be getting close to $1500 in
>> cost, but that'll easily cover it with 2 footers.
>>
>>
>>
>> The only parts involved are going to be the dishes and the radios, so
>> it's pretty simple to price... well, I suppose mounts and surge suppressors
>> too, but I assume you know where to get those...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:14 PM,  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, that is what I am looking for.  Actually not sure yet what up
>> down ratio the customer will be buying yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> If I tell the owners $1500 for parts then I should be good to go?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 11:47 AM
>>
>> *To:* af
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>>
>>
>>
>> That's because airfibers use a fixed up/down ratio (75/25, in this case).
>> If you needed 50/50, this link would only be get you somewhere around
>> 140Mbps each way.
>>
>> Signal is just a little too low to get 8X (256qam) on this case, but I
>> probably could if I changed them to the new HD version, since they can get
>> a little higher power at any given modulation, and they can achieve higher
>> modulations at lower signal levels... it might even be able to do 1024qam
>> (it probably could with 3' dishes anyway). going to a 50mhz channel would
>> also add some 20% capacity (50mhz is the max for the standard af-5x, but
>> the hd can go up to 100mhz if you have lots of spectrum to burn).
>>
>>
>>
>> An entire link with 2' dishes should come to router around $1000. I
>> haven't priced the 3' dishes recently, but they are quite a bit pricier.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:21 AM,  wrote:
>>
>> Is the 65 Mbps a limitation of the link or system settings or ??
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:16 AM
>>
>> *To:* af
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>>
>>
>>
>> Here's an example of a 25km AF-5x link using 2' dishes. I'd probably use
>> AF-5xHD radios these days, and I'd use the airFiber dishes (the only
>> difference between them and the RocketDish LW is that they're slant vs H/V).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Error! Filename not specified.*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>> Which is better, Rocket 5AC + RocketDish LW
>>
>> or
>>
>> AF5X + AF-5G34-S45
>>
>>
>>
>> ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Or some other brand.  Hauling out PTP to a customer.  Like to keep the
>> bandwidth up but they are not currently asking for more than 100 Mbps.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

[chuck]

Pop the cover on the AF5x, there is a tiny screwdriver adjustment marked 
“freq”.  Just tweak it up to 6 GHz and you are good to go.  Saves lots of money 
that way.  

From: Jeremy 
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

I have an AF5X on 3' UBNT dishes (x-pol modified) that does 300x100 at 19 
miles.  It is about to be swapped for 6GHz though.

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 4:48 PM, Rory Conaway  wrote:

  Mimosa B5c can pull 500Mbps to 1Gbps on that type of link depending on how 
much spectrum you want to use.



  Rory 



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
  Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 2:32 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed



  Well, that explains everything.



  From: Chris Fabien 

  Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 3:28 PM

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed



  3ft... Jirous on one side and one of the WB Optic on the other actually!



  On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 5:17 PM  wrote:

Wow, what size dishes?



From: Chris Fabien 

Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 3:16 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed



Chuck we just did a 13 mile link using AF5XHD, getting about 350mbps in 
both directions using 60mhz and 50/50 ratio. 



On Jun 6, 2018 2:42 PM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:

Yeah, if you go with 3' dishes you might be getting close to $1500 in cost, 
but that'll easily cover it with 2 footers.



The only parts involved are going to be the dishes and the radios, so it's 
pretty simple to price... well, I suppose mounts and surge suppressors too, but 
I assume you know where to get those...





On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:14 PM,  wrote:

Thanks, that is what I am looking for.  Actually not sure yet what up down 
ratio the customer will be buying yet.  



If I tell the owners $1500 for parts then I should be good to go?



From: Mathew Howard 

Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 11:47 AM

To: af 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed



That's because airfibers use a fixed up/down ratio (75/25, in this case). 
If you needed 50/50, this link would only be get you somewhere around 140Mbps 
each way.

Signal is just a little too low to get 8X (256qam) on this case, but I 
probably could if I changed them to the new HD version, since they can get a 
little higher power at any given modulation, and they can achieve higher 
modulations at lower signal levels... it might even be able to do 1024qam (it 
probably could with 3' dishes anyway). going to a 50mhz channel would also add 
some 20% capacity (50mhz is the max for the standard af-5x, but the hd can go 
up to 100mhz if you have lots of spectrum to burn).



An entire link with 2' dishes should come to router around $1000. I haven't 
priced the 3' dishes recently, but they are quite a bit pricier.





On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:21 AM,  wrote:

  Is the 65 Mbps a limitation of the link or system settings or ??



  From: Mathew Howard 

  Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:16 AM

  To: af 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed



  Here's an example of a 25km AF-5x link using 2' dishes. I'd probably use 
AF-5xHD radios these days, and I'd use the airFiber dishes (the only difference 
between them and the RocketDish LW is that they're slant vs H/V).





  Error! Filename not specified.









  On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Which is better, Rocket 5AC + RocketDish LW

or

AF5X + AF-5G34-S45



?



Or some other brand.  Hauling out PTP to a customer.  Like to keep the 
bandwidth up but they are not currently asking for more than 100 Mbps.  

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

[Jeremy]

I have an AF5X on 3' UBNT dishes (x-pol modified) that does 300x100 at 19
miles.  It is about to be swapped for 6GHz though.

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 4:48 PM, Rory Conaway  wrote:

> Mimosa B5c can pull 500Mbps to 1Gbps on that type of link depending on how
> much spectrum you want to use.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 2:32 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>
>
>
> Well, that explains everything.
>
>
>
> *From:* Chris Fabien
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 3:28 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>
>
>
> 3ft... Jirous on one side and one of the WB Optic on the other actually!
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 5:17 PM  wrote:
>
> Wow, what size dishes?
>
>
>
> *From:* Chris Fabien
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 3:16 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>
>
>
> Chuck we just did a 13 mile link using AF5XHD, getting about 350mbps in
> both directions using 60mhz and 50/50 ratio.
>
>
>
> On Jun 6, 2018 2:42 PM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:
>
> Yeah, if you go with 3' dishes you might be getting close to $1500 in
> cost, but that'll easily cover it with 2 footers.
>
>
>
> The only parts involved are going to be the dishes and the radios, so it's
> pretty simple to price... well, I suppose mounts and surge suppressors too,
> but I assume you know where to get those...
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:14 PM,  wrote:
>
> Thanks, that is what I am looking for.  Actually not sure yet what up down
> ratio the customer will be buying yet.
>
>
>
> If I tell the owners $1500 for parts then I should be good to go?
>
>
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 11:47 AM
>
> *To:* af
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>
>
>
> That's because airfibers use a fixed up/down ratio (75/25, in this case).
> If you needed 50/50, this link would only be get you somewhere around
> 140Mbps each way.
>
> Signal is just a little too low to get 8X (256qam) on this case, but I
> probably could if I changed them to the new HD version, since they can get
> a little higher power at any given modulation, and they can achieve higher
> modulations at lower signal levels... it might even be able to do 1024qam
> (it probably could with 3' dishes anyway). going to a 50mhz channel would
> also add some 20% capacity (50mhz is the max for the standard af-5x, but
> the hd can go up to 100mhz if you have lots of spectrum to burn).
>
>
>
> An entire link with 2' dishes should come to router around $1000. I
> haven't priced the 3' dishes recently, but they are quite a bit pricier.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:21 AM,  wrote:
>
> Is the 65 Mbps a limitation of the link or system settings or ??
>
>
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:16 AM
>
> *To:* af
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>
>
>
> Here's an example of a 25km AF-5x link using 2' dishes. I'd probably use
> AF-5xHD radios these days, and I'd use the airFiber dishes (the only
> difference between them and the RocketDish LW is that they're slant vs H/V).
>
>
>
>
>
> *Error! Filename not specified.*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
> Which is better, Rocket 5AC + RocketDish LW
>
> or
>
> AF5X + AF-5G34-S45
>
>
>
> ?
>
>
>
> Or some other brand.  Hauling out PTP to a customer.  Like to keep the
> bandwidth up but they are not currently asking for more than 100 Mbps.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

[Rory Conaway]

Mimosa B5c can pull 500Mbps to 1Gbps on that type of link depending on how much 
spectrum you want to use.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 2:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

Well, that explains everything.

From: Chris Fabien
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 3:28 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

3ft... Jirous on one side and one of the WB Optic on the other actually!

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 5:17 PM  wrote:
Wow, what size dishes?

From: Chris Fabien
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 3:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

Chuck we just did a 13 mile link using AF5XHD, getting about 350mbps in both 
directions using 60mhz and 50/50 ratio.

On Jun 6, 2018 2:42 PM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:
Yeah, if you go with 3' dishes you might be getting close to $1500 in cost, but 
that'll easily cover it with 2 footers.

The only parts involved are going to be the dishes and the radios, so it's 
pretty simple to price... well, I suppose mounts and surge suppressors too, but 
I assume you know where to get those...


On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:14 PM,  wrote:
Thanks, that is what I am looking for.  Actually not sure yet what up down 
ratio the customer will be buying yet.

If I tell the owners $1500 for parts then I should be good to go?

From: Mathew Howard
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 11:47 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

That's because airfibers use a fixed up/down ratio (75/25, in this case). If 
you needed 50/50, this link would only be get you somewhere around 140Mbps each 
way.
Signal is just a little too low to get 8X (256qam) on this case, but I probably 
could if I changed them to the new HD version, since they can get a little 
higher power at any given modulation, and they can achieve higher modulations 
at lower signal levels... it might even be able to do 1024qam (it probably 
could with 3' dishes anyway). going to a 50mhz channel would also add some 20% 
capacity (50mhz is the max for the standard af-5x, but the hd can go up to 
100mhz if you have lots of spectrum to burn).

An entire link with 2' dishes should come to router around $1000. I haven't 
priced the 3' dishes recently, but they are quite a bit pricier.


On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:21 AM,  wrote:
Is the 65 Mbps a limitation of the link or system settings or ??

From: Mathew Howard
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:16 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

Here's an example of a 25km AF-5x link using 2' dishes. I'd probably use 
AF-5xHD radios these days, and I'd use the airFiber dishes (the only difference 
between them and the RocketDish LW is that they're slant vs H/V).


Error! Filename not specified.




On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
Which is better, Rocket 5AC + RocketDish LW
or
AF5X + AF-5G34-S45

?

Or some other brand.  Hauling out PTP to a customer.  Like to keep the 
bandwidth up but they are not currently asking for more than 100 Mbps.

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

[chuck]

Well, that explains everything.

From: Chris Fabien 
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 3:28 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

3ft... Jirous on one side and one of the WB Optic on the other actually!

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 5:17 PM  wrote:

  Wow, what size dishes?

  From: Chris Fabien 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 3:16 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

  Chuck we just did a 13 mile link using AF5XHD, getting about 350mbps in both 
directions using 60mhz and 50/50 ratio. 

  On Jun 6, 2018 2:42 PM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:

Yeah, if you go with 3' dishes you might be getting close to $1500 in cost, 
but that'll easily cover it with 2 footers.

The only parts involved are going to be the dishes and the radios, so it's 
pretty simple to price... well, I suppose mounts and surge suppressors too, but 
I assume you know where to get those...


On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:14 PM,  wrote:

  Thanks, that is what I am looking for.  Actually not sure yet what up 
down ratio the customer will be buying yet.  

  If I tell the owners $1500 for parts then I should be good to go?

  From: Mathew Howard 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 11:47 AM
  To: af 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

  That's because airfibers use a fixed up/down ratio (75/25, in this case). 
If you needed 50/50, this link would only be get you somewhere around 140Mbps 
each way.

  Signal is just a little too low to get 8X (256qam) on this case, but I 
probably could if I changed them to the new HD version, since they can get a 
little higher power at any given modulation, and they can achieve higher 
modulations at lower signal levels... it might even be able to do 1024qam (it 
probably could with 3' dishes anyway). going to a 50mhz channel would also add 
some 20% capacity (50mhz is the max for the standard af-5x, but the hd can go 
up to 100mhz if you have lots of spectrum to burn).

  An entire link with 2' dishes should come to router around $1000. I 
haven't priced the 3' dishes recently, but they are quite a bit pricier.


  On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:21 AM,  wrote:

Is the 65 Mbps a limitation of the link or system settings or ??

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:16 AM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

Here's an example of a 25km AF-5x link using 2' dishes. I'd probably 
use AF-5xHD radios these days, and I'd use the airFiber dishes (the only 
difference between them and the RocketDish LW is that they're slant vs H/V).







On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Which is better, Rocket 5AC + RocketDish LW
  or
  AF5X + AF-5G34-S45

  ?

  Or some other brand.  Hauling out PTP to a customer.  Like to keep 
the bandwidth up but they are not currently asking for more than 100 Mbps.  

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

[Chris Fabien]

3ft... Jirous on one side and one of the WB Optic on the other actually!

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 5:17 PM  wrote:

> Wow, what size dishes?
>
> *From:* Chris Fabien
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 3:16 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>
> Chuck we just did a 13 mile link using AF5XHD, getting about 350mbps in
> both directions using 60mhz and 50/50 ratio.
>
> On Jun 6, 2018 2:42 PM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:
>
> Yeah, if you go with 3' dishes you might be getting close to $1500 in
> cost, but that'll easily cover it with 2 footers.
>
> The only parts involved are going to be the dishes and the radios, so it's
> pretty simple to price... well, I suppose mounts and surge suppressors too,
> but I assume you know where to get those...
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:14 PM,  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, that is what I am looking for.  Actually not sure yet what up
>> down ratio the customer will be buying yet.
>>
>> If I tell the owners $1500 for parts then I should be good to go?
>>
>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 11:47 AM
>> *To:* af
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>>
>> That's because airfibers use a fixed up/down ratio (75/25, in this case).
>> If you needed 50/50, this link would only be get you somewhere around
>> 140Mbps each way.
>> Signal is just a little too low to get 8X (256qam) on this case, but I
>> probably could if I changed them to the new HD version, since they can get
>> a little higher power at any given modulation, and they can achieve higher
>> modulations at lower signal levels... it might even be able to do 1024qam
>> (it probably could with 3' dishes anyway). going to a 50mhz channel would
>> also add some 20% capacity (50mhz is the max for the standard af-5x, but
>> the hd can go up to 100mhz if you have lots of spectrum to burn).
>>
>> An entire link with 2' dishes should come to router around $1000. I
>> haven't priced the 3' dishes recently, but they are quite a bit pricier.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:21 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> Is the 65 Mbps a limitation of the link or system settings or ??
>>>
>>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:16 AM
>>> *To:* af
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>>>
>>> Here's an example of a 25km AF-5x link using 2' dishes. I'd probably use
>>> AF-5xHD radios these days, and I'd use the airFiber dishes (the only
>>> difference between them and the RocketDish LW is that they're slant vs H/V).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Which is better, Rocket 5AC + RocketDish LW
>>>> or
>>>> AF5X + AF-5G34-S45
>>>>
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>> Or some other brand.  Hauling out PTP to a customer.  Like to keep the
>>>> bandwidth up but they are not currently asking for more than 100 Mbps.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

[chuck]

Wow, what size dishes?

From: Chris Fabien 
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 3:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

Chuck we just did a 13 mile link using AF5XHD, getting about 350mbps in both 
directions using 60mhz and 50/50 ratio. 

On Jun 6, 2018 2:42 PM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:

  Yeah, if you go with 3' dishes you might be getting close to $1500 in cost, 
but that'll easily cover it with 2 footers.

  The only parts involved are going to be the dishes and the radios, so it's 
pretty simple to price... well, I suppose mounts and surge suppressors too, but 
I assume you know where to get those...


  On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:14 PM,  wrote:

Thanks, that is what I am looking for.  Actually not sure yet what up down 
ratio the customer will be buying yet.  

If I tell the owners $1500 for parts then I should be good to go?

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 11:47 AM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

That's because airfibers use a fixed up/down ratio (75/25, in this case). 
If you needed 50/50, this link would only be get you somewhere around 140Mbps 
each way.

Signal is just a little too low to get 8X (256qam) on this case, but I 
probably could if I changed them to the new HD version, since they can get a 
little higher power at any given modulation, and they can achieve higher 
modulations at lower signal levels... it might even be able to do 1024qam (it 
probably could with 3' dishes anyway). going to a 50mhz channel would also add 
some 20% capacity (50mhz is the max for the standard af-5x, but the hd can go 
up to 100mhz if you have lots of spectrum to burn).

An entire link with 2' dishes should come to router around $1000. I haven't 
priced the 3' dishes recently, but they are quite a bit pricier.


On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:21 AM,  wrote:

  Is the 65 Mbps a limitation of the link or system settings or ??

  From: Mathew Howard 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:16 AM
  To: af 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

  Here's an example of a 25km AF-5x link using 2' dishes. I'd probably use 
AF-5xHD radios these days, and I'd use the airFiber dishes (the only difference 
between them and the RocketDish LW is that they're slant vs H/V).







  On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Which is better, Rocket 5AC + RocketDish LW
or
AF5X + AF-5G34-S45

?

Or some other brand.  Hauling out PTP to a customer.  Like to keep the 
bandwidth up but they are not currently asking for more than 100 Mbps.  

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

[Chris Fabien]

Chuck we just did a 13 mile link using AF5XHD, getting about 350mbps in
both directions using 60mhz and 50/50 ratio.

On Jun 6, 2018 2:42 PM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:

Yeah, if you go with 3' dishes you might be getting close to $1500 in cost,
but that'll easily cover it with 2 footers.

The only parts involved are going to be the dishes and the radios, so it's
pretty simple to price... well, I suppose mounts and surge suppressors too,
but I assume you know where to get those...


On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:14 PM,  wrote:

> Thanks, that is what I am looking for.  Actually not sure yet what up down
> ratio the customer will be buying yet.
>
> If I tell the owners $1500 for parts then I should be good to go?
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 11:47 AM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>
> That's because airfibers use a fixed up/down ratio (75/25, in this case).
> If you needed 50/50, this link would only be get you somewhere around
> 140Mbps each way.
> Signal is just a little too low to get 8X (256qam) on this case, but I
> probably could if I changed them to the new HD version, since they can get
> a little higher power at any given modulation, and they can achieve higher
> modulations at lower signal levels... it might even be able to do 1024qam
> (it probably could with 3' dishes anyway). going to a 50mhz channel would
> also add some 20% capacity (50mhz is the max for the standard af-5x, but
> the hd can go up to 100mhz if you have lots of spectrum to burn).
>
> An entire link with 2' dishes should come to router around $1000. I
> haven't priced the 3' dishes recently, but they are quite a bit pricier.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:21 AM,  wrote:
>
>> Is the 65 Mbps a limitation of the link or system settings or ??
>>
>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:16 AM
>> *To:* af
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>>
>> Here's an example of a 25km AF-5x link using 2' dishes. I'd probably use
>> AF-5xHD radios these days, and I'd use the airFiber dishes (the only
>> difference between them and the RocketDish LW is that they're slant vs H/V).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> Which is better, Rocket 5AC + RocketDish LW
>>> or
>>> AF5X + AF-5G34-S45
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Or some other brand.  Hauling out PTP to a customer.  Like to keep the
>>> bandwidth up but they are not currently asking for more than 100 Mbps.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

[Mathew Howard]

Yeah, if you go with 3' dishes you might be getting close to $1500 in cost,
but that'll easily cover it with 2 footers.

The only parts involved are going to be the dishes and the radios, so it's
pretty simple to price... well, I suppose mounts and surge suppressors too,
but I assume you know where to get those...


On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:14 PM,  wrote:

> Thanks, that is what I am looking for.  Actually not sure yet what up down
> ratio the customer will be buying yet.
>
> If I tell the owners $1500 for parts then I should be good to go?
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 11:47 AM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>
> That's because airfibers use a fixed up/down ratio (75/25, in this case).
> If you needed 50/50, this link would only be get you somewhere around
> 140Mbps each way.
> Signal is just a little too low to get 8X (256qam) on this case, but I
> probably could if I changed them to the new HD version, since they can get
> a little higher power at any given modulation, and they can achieve higher
> modulations at lower signal levels... it might even be able to do 1024qam
> (it probably could with 3' dishes anyway). going to a 50mhz channel would
> also add some 20% capacity (50mhz is the max for the standard af-5x, but
> the hd can go up to 100mhz if you have lots of spectrum to burn).
>
> An entire link with 2' dishes should come to router around $1000. I
> haven't priced the 3' dishes recently, but they are quite a bit pricier.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:21 AM,  wrote:
>
>> Is the 65 Mbps a limitation of the link or system settings or ??
>>
>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:16 AM
>> *To:* af
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>>
>> Here's an example of a 25km AF-5x link using 2' dishes. I'd probably use
>> AF-5xHD radios these days, and I'd use the airFiber dishes (the only
>> difference between them and the RocketDish LW is that they're slant vs H/V).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> Which is better, Rocket 5AC + RocketDish LW
>>> or
>>> AF5X + AF-5G34-S45
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Or some other brand.  Hauling out PTP to a customer.  Like to keep the
>>> bandwidth up but they are not currently asking for more than 100 Mbps.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

[chuck]

Thanks, that is what I am looking for.  Actually not sure yet what up down 
ratio the customer will be buying yet.  

If I tell the owners $1500 for parts then I should be good to go?

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 11:47 AM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

That's because airfibers use a fixed up/down ratio (75/25, in this case). If 
you needed 50/50, this link would only be get you somewhere around 140Mbps each 
way.

Signal is just a little too low to get 8X (256qam) on this case, but I probably 
could if I changed them to the new HD version, since they can get a little 
higher power at any given modulation, and they can achieve higher modulations 
at lower signal levels... it might even be able to do 1024qam (it probably 
could with 3' dishes anyway). going to a 50mhz channel would also add some 20% 
capacity (50mhz is the max for the standard af-5x, but the hd can go up to 
100mhz if you have lots of spectrum to burn).

An entire link with 2' dishes should come to router around $1000. I haven't 
priced the 3' dishes recently, but they are quite a bit pricier.


On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:21 AM,  wrote:

  Is the 65 Mbps a limitation of the link or system settings or ??

  From: Mathew Howard 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:16 AM
  To: af 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

  Here's an example of a 25km AF-5x link using 2' dishes. I'd probably use 
AF-5xHD radios these days, and I'd use the airFiber dishes (the only difference 
between them and the RocketDish LW is that they're slant vs H/V).







  On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Which is better, Rocket 5AC + RocketDish LW
or
AF5X + AF-5G34-S45

?

Or some other brand.  Hauling out PTP to a customer.  Like to keep the 
bandwidth up but they are not currently asking for more than 100 Mbps.  

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

[Mathew Howard]

That's because airfibers use a fixed up/down ratio (75/25, in this case).
If you needed 50/50, this link would only be get you somewhere around
140Mbps each way.
Signal is just a little too low to get 8X (256qam) on this case, but I
probably could if I changed them to the new HD version, since they can get
a little higher power at any given modulation, and they can achieve higher
modulations at lower signal levels... it might even be able to do 1024qam
(it probably could with 3' dishes anyway). going to a 50mhz channel would
also add some 20% capacity (50mhz is the max for the standard af-5x, but
the hd can go up to 100mhz if you have lots of spectrum to burn).

An entire link with 2' dishes should come to router around $1000. I haven't
priced the 3' dishes recently, but they are quite a bit pricier.


On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:21 AM,  wrote:

> Is the 65 Mbps a limitation of the link or system settings or ??
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:16 AM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>
> Here's an example of a 25km AF-5x link using 2' dishes. I'd probably use
> AF-5xHD radios these days, and I'd use the airFiber dishes (the only
> difference between them and the RocketDish LW is that they're slant vs H/V).
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Which is better, Rocket 5AC + RocketDish LW
>> or
>> AF5X + AF-5G34-S45
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Or some other brand.  Hauling out PTP to a customer.  Like to keep the
>> bandwidth up but they are not currently asking for more than 100 Mbps.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

[chuck]

Is the 65 Mbps a limitation of the link or system settings or ??

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:16 AM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

Here's an example of a 25km AF-5x link using 2' dishes. I'd probably use 
AF-5xHD radios these days, and I'd use the airFiber dishes (the only difference 
between them and the RocketDish LW is that they're slant vs H/V).







On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Which is better, Rocket 5AC + RocketDish LW
  or
  AF5X + AF-5G34-S45

  ?

  Or some other brand.  Hauling out PTP to a customer.  Like to keep the 
bandwidth up but they are not currently asking for more than 100 Mbps.  

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

[chuck]

Excellent, thanks for the advice.  
What does a whole system cost?

From: Darin Steffl 
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

First, I'd recommend the new AF5XHD which is a huge upgrade over the AF5x. 

You can then use that radio with either the 30db or 34db dish you listed. At 15 
miles, I would recommend the 34db dish as that is quite the long haul. If the 
customer is paying any decent amount of money, you'll recoup your costs quickly.

With 34db dishes and clean 20mhz spectrum, you can easily move about 240 Mbps 
aggregate through the link with 10x modulation and you can decide duty cycle 
like 50/50 for 120 Mbps each way or 75/25, etc.

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Which is better, Rocket 5AC + RocketDish LW
  or
  AF5X + AF-5G34-S45

  ?

  Or some other brand.  Hauling out PTP to a customer.  Like to keep the 
bandwidth up but they are not currently asking for more than 100 Mbps.  




-- 

Darin Steffl 
Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com
507-634-WiFi
 Like us on Facebook

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

[Jaime Solorza]

We installed AF5 16 mile link with 34dB dishes to provide 100Mbps to
hospital... averages 92 to 97MBps...

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018, 11:44 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Which is better, Rocket 5AC + RocketDish LW
> or
> AF5X + AF-5G34-S45
>
> ?
>
> Or some other brand.  Hauling out PTP to a customer.  Like to keep the
> bandwidth up but they are not currently asking for more than 100 Mbps.
>

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

[Jon Langeler]

I wouldn’t go non-HD on the AF at this point. last I checked AF is only fixed 
ratio but might be fine. But speeds using 5AC won’t be slow comparatively.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Jun 5, 2018, at 1:43 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> 
> Which is better, Rocket 5AC + RocketDish LW
> or
> AF5X + AF-5G34-S45
>  
> ?
>  
> Or some other brand.  Hauling out PTP to a customer.  Like to keep the 
> bandwidth up but they are not currently asking for more than 100 Mbps. 

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

[Mathew Howard]

Here's an example of a 25km AF-5x link using 2' dishes. I'd probably use
AF-5xHD radios these days, and I'd use the airFiber dishes (the only
difference between them and the RocketDish LW is that they're slant vs H/V).






On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Which is better, Rocket 5AC + RocketDish LW
> or
> AF5X + AF-5G34-S45
>
> ?
>
> Or some other brand.  Hauling out PTP to a customer.  Like to keep the
> bandwidth up but they are not currently asking for more than 100 Mbps.
>

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

[Darin Steffl]

First, I'd recommend the new AF5XHD which is a huge upgrade over the AF5x.

You can then use that radio with either the 30db or 34db dish you listed.
At 15 miles, I would recommend the 34db dish as that is quite the long
haul. If the customer is paying any decent amount of money, you'll recoup
your costs quickly.

With 34db dishes and clean 20mhz spectrum, you can easily move about 240
Mbps aggregate through the link with 10x modulation and you can decide duty
cycle like 50/50 for 120 Mbps each way or 75/25, etc.

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Which is better, Rocket 5AC + RocketDish LW
> or
> AF5X + AF-5G34-S45
>
> ?
>
> Or some other brand.  Hauling out PTP to a customer.  Like to keep the
> bandwidth up but they are not currently asking for more than 100 Mbps.
>



-- 
Darin Steffl
Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com
507-634-WiFi
 Like us on Facebook

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

[Cameron Crum]

Probably the AF

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Which is better, Rocket 5AC + RocketDish LW
> or
> AF5X + AF-5G34-S45
>
> ?
>
> Or some other brand.  Hauling out PTP to a customer.  Like to keep the
> bandwidth up but they are not currently asking for more than 100 Mbps.
>

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

[Jason Wilson]

I am running Mimosa b5c on a RD34 38km 2x40mhz



Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 10:43 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Which is better, Rocket 5AC + RocketDish LW
> or
> AF5X + AF-5G34-S45
>
> ?
>
> Or some other brand.  Hauling out PTP to a customer.  Like to keep the
> bandwidth up but they are not currently asking for more than 100 Mbps.
>

[AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

[Chuck McCown]

Which is better, Rocket 5AC + RocketDish LW
or
AF5X + AF-5G34-S45

?

Or some other brand.  Hauling out PTP to a customer.  Like to keep the 
bandwidth up but they are not currently asking for more than 100 Mbps.